Archive 5
Please do NOT edit this page, If you wish to reply to any message on here then please copy the whole conversation to my current talk page. Thanks! Ian13/ talk 19:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC) |
To continue the discussion originally
here (and I don't know if you're watching my talk page so I posted this here too, apologies if you see it twice), I'd love some help on my user page (or talk page) layout. There are some followup comments on
my talk page in regards to your comments there, and to that end, a new section created on my userpage about things that need to be fixed.
I would very much appreciate any and all help! I'm slowly learning Wikipedia markup as I go along. It's been a few weeks, I'd like to think I'm a relatively fast learner. :) - File:Ottawa flag.png nath a nrdotcom ( Talk • Contribs) 07:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I'd like your thoughts on a brainstorm I've tried to articulate here: User:Leifern/Adminwatch idea. And feel free to spread the word. -- Leifern 16:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, my point still stands. If you haven't edited in the article namespace recently enough for there to be 150 edits for Mathbot to dig up, then you haven't really been contributing to the encyclopedia. Even some of the busiest people dealing with meta affairs edit now and then. Johnleemk | Talk 14:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful.
An extra note. Your candidacy fell at the lower end of bureaucrat discretion. Upon review I determined that the responses displayed a community consensus that merited your promotion at this time; however, please make the extra effort to reread and consider the opposing and neutral votes and let them guide you in future work in Wikipedia and your success in being an admin. Cheers, Cecropia 18:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations! You deserve this and keep up the good work! -- S iva1979 Talk to me 14:37, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
~/~/~C*O*N*G*R*A*T*U*L*A*T*I*O*N*S~/~/~-- Victoria Eleanor 14:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Well done! -- Nataly a 18:27, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations Ian13 -- Ugur Basak 09:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations, Ian13. Please use your new powers boldly, but also even-handedly and with self-reflection. I have confidence in you. :-) GUÐSÞEGN – U T E X – 23:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy: |
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Hi Ian13/Archive5! You've signed up to be a judge for the Esperanza User Page Award! You'll have three user pages to examine. The user pages you get coincide with your signup number. So if you signed up to be a judge in spot 1 than you will get nominations 1-3. Pick your favorite one, and list it in the finalist section. After all 5 judges have chosen a finalist it's time to award them 1-10 points in the four categories:
Please remember to include Subpages in your judging criteria. See the Scores section on this page for additional information on your job as a judge.
Keep in mind that your scores are confidential! Email [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] with your scores and final picks. As soon as all the scores have been tallied, a winner will be announced! Thanks.
KnowledgeOfSelf 12:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
The pages that you are to pick a finalist for are:
Congrats on becoming an admin! I was hoping you could help with something. In deletion review (and the deletion process for that matter) and article was deleted that I believe should not have been. User:Tony Sidaway agrees. The article was deleted for notability, but the person in question was mentioned in about a dozen different mainstream media articles, included a recent front page article in the New York Times. Can you take a look and vote accordingly? The review is here. Wikipedia:Deletion Review#John Bambenek. Thanks. -- Alpha269 04:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Could you please bock the following IP:
129.100.190.85. He vandalized the Federalism article, wiping out introduction, replacing it with "Joe is the man."
Thanks GUÐSÞEGN – U T E X – 22:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
I think we edit conflicted because I was was about to do the block after I reverted a user page. Thanks again.-- Dakota ~ ° 22:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
You blocked 80.188.28.2 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) for 31 hours for vandalism/etc. A quick search with Google and a traceroute reveal that this is an open proxy located in the Czech Republic. Judging by the contrib history, it is obviously being utilized by User:TruthCrusader, who is also located in the Czech Republic. - Chadbryant 22:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Ian,
We're having some trouble with the {{ User United Kingdom}} user box. Having been up for 2 months since December with the text "This user comes from the United Kingdom", or slight variants thereof, some people decided (on the basis of a straw poll of four votes to one) to change it to "This user lives in the United Kingdom".
The reason they give is that the template's text and categorisation didn't match: the category linked to Wikipedians in the United Kingdom. I feel strongly however, that the TEXT in a user box is far more important than the CATEGORY, since most users will pick their boxes on the basis of the text, when browsing through the available boxes (that's what I did anyway). Therefore either the box's category should be changed, or it should be left in the slightly anomalous state as it has been for all that time. The text should NOT be changed.
It seems to me that a golden rule of user boxes should be that the essence of their text does not change once they're established, otherwise users are suddenly misrepresented without their necessarily realising it. What do you suggest as the resolution to this issue? — SteveRwanda 12:33, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, the thing is that you sent me a message called "last change" saying that the pictures that I uploaded "Northamerica.gif" didn't have the original link but it did... anyway here it is again so you can check it and send me a message back. thank you.
URL: http://www.mcx.es/polco/images/Norteamerica.gif
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Supaman89 ( talk • contribs)
Supaman's anwer
Well yeah you might be right but come on everything is copyrighted only in very few sites it says that it's free to use so my question is would it make any difference if I kind of change the colours or something and put some names to the image as if it was made by me??? just the necesary so they cannot say that it's their picture... haha that seems legal to me it might not be honest but technically it's legal... don't get me wrong man but it's the truth tell me how many pages you've seen that says "you are free to use this picture". I'm just trying to make wikipedia a better place with more information ok.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Supaman89 ( talk • contribs)
Regarding the situation here, if I were to Request a Comment, how would I do so? I have looked at the categories on WP:RFC and none of them seem to fit a userbox dispute very well.
The reason I ask is because I have little doubt that I am in the right here, and I believe it to be a safe assumption that the other side feels the same way about themselves and there is no real compromise to be reached here - it should be one or the other. If more people comment in good faith (by good faith I mean something above "all userboxes are stupid") and there is a clear consensus against my point, I have no problem leaving the template as is however I am reluctant to do so because of what I see as two users (one of which is now using a more correct template anyway) being stubborn and hypocritical reverting the edit simply because it has been revealed that they were using the template under a misconception.
The proposal I put forth at Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Location/United Kingdom with five comments (4:1 in favour) is clearly not a scientificly accurate indicator of the wishes of everyone who uses these templates and I have not purported it to be so, but at present it is the best we have and as such I feel it should hold more weight than the assumptions put forth by SteveRwanda. I see it as little different from a Tfd discussion - not everyone who uses it will coment or vote, but the decision will be upheld regardless.
I don't mean to make my case for change to you personally, but your "straw poll" comment led me to believe that's how you viewed the proposal and I would like to make you aware of how I see it. - Hayter 15:26, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Ian13, I hereby award you the userbox barnstar for contributions to WikiProject Userboxes.
This user has been awarded a userbox barnstar for his work designing new userboxes. |
-- Preschooler.at.heart 02:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
if you delete a link to a commercial site you should delete all the others links to other commercial sites on the same list.
But i understand why you are doing this and I'm sorry for you.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebans ( talk • contribs)
if you delete a link to a commercial site you should delete all the others links to other commercial sites on the same list. Deleting only one link shows something wrong and not nice about you.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebans ( talk • contribs)
: I added the 3 links only becouse I found there were other commercial links and I added the link at the bottom
You better delete all the other commercial links .
sebans
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebans ( talk • contribs)
Hey Ian, I'm busy until the end of March; so I've made you acting chair of WP:CJ. Okay? Computerjoe 's talk 21:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
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Good luck on your exams:) — nath a(?) nrdotcom ( T • C • W) 21:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
GCSE's! *gasp* Good luck!! -- Nataly a 18:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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This is a notification reminding you all, especially councillors, that we are having a meeting where we will try to review progress so far and make a few decisions.
This meeting will be held on a wikipage, and well end on Saturday 15th April.
You can partake in the meeting here.
Thank you,
Computerjoe 's talk 17:07, 11 April 2006 (UTC) (Chairman of WP:CJ.)
Message delivered through AWB.
See: Talk:Serbia -- Hipi Zhdripi 19:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Just to let you know, I undid your block of this shared IP address following a complaint on OTRS. About 22 of the 24 hours of the block have already run, and as you said this is a slow-moving vandal, so I think the block has already served it's purpose, and there should be no problems unblocking :) -- bainer ( talk) 09:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the block re: Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. ;-) Netscott 12:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Ian. Yes, I'm the contact (along with Mindspillage). We always need volunteers, so thanks for putting your name forward. If it's OK, we'll have a look at what you do, and see if your experience and style fit with what we are looking for, and let you know within the next couple of days. Thanks again -- sannse (talk) 17:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
My signature worked!!! (if you don't already know.) Thanks for all the help. Jonathan talk File:Canada flag 300.png 00:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
hi there Ian13! I completely understand, and will change my vote comment accordingly. I'm sure you understand that my vote was not easily swayed, and that I took as much as I could into account when making my final vote. There were just a couple of things that I clearly didn't quite understand, which Mal explained to me (as is evident on the talk pages). You're right that the discussion should have taken place at the appropriate discussion page. Con Dem Talk 23:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Happy Easter! You have an amazing user page, by the way. At some point I might ask for you help/advice in creating one like that of my own, if that's alright... Con D e m Talk 02:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Everyone else seems to have stolen all the good Easter pictures and stuff, but I wish you a Happy Easter all the same. — FireFox • T [16:18, 16 April 2006]
What personal attacks are you talking about? I'm being labeled, attacked and harassed by User:Timothy_Usher but I don't see a similar rebuke of this user by you on his talk page. Is there some reason why you are settling on taking sides? User247 20:53, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
As Wikipedia:Community Justice has over 30 members, we are beginning the elections process.
If you are interested in becoming the chairman, the chief executive or councillor please add yourself, and a statement, to Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections.
Voting shall begin on April 24th, and end on May 1st. To see if you are eligible for a vote, please see Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections.
Thank you,
Computerjoe 's talk 21:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello! Would you mind awfully if I stole your 'Click to show' thing for my userpage? I was planning a revamp, and the easiest way to go about it is probably to steal ideas from other userpages ¬_¬ -- Doug ( talk) 22:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Archive 5
Please do NOT edit this page, If you wish to reply to any message on here then please copy the whole conversation to my current talk page. Thanks! Ian13/ talk 19:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC) |
To continue the discussion originally
here (and I don't know if you're watching my talk page so I posted this here too, apologies if you see it twice), I'd love some help on my user page (or talk page) layout. There are some followup comments on
my talk page in regards to your comments there, and to that end, a new section created on my userpage about things that need to be fixed.
I would very much appreciate any and all help! I'm slowly learning Wikipedia markup as I go along. It's been a few weeks, I'd like to think I'm a relatively fast learner. :) - File:Ottawa flag.png nath a nrdotcom ( Talk • Contribs) 07:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I'd like your thoughts on a brainstorm I've tried to articulate here: User:Leifern/Adminwatch idea. And feel free to spread the word. -- Leifern 16:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, my point still stands. If you haven't edited in the article namespace recently enough for there to be 150 edits for Mathbot to dig up, then you haven't really been contributing to the encyclopedia. Even some of the busiest people dealing with meta affairs edit now and then. Johnleemk | Talk 14:39, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful.
An extra note. Your candidacy fell at the lower end of bureaucrat discretion. Upon review I determined that the responses displayed a community consensus that merited your promotion at this time; however, please make the extra effort to reread and consider the opposing and neutral votes and let them guide you in future work in Wikipedia and your success in being an admin. Cheers, Cecropia 18:11, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations! You deserve this and keep up the good work! -- S iva1979 Talk to me 14:37, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
~/~/~C*O*N*G*R*A*T*U*L*A*T*I*O*N*S~/~/~-- Victoria Eleanor 14:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Well done! -- Nataly a 18:27, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations Ian13 -- Ugur Basak 09:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations, Ian13. Please use your new powers boldly, but also even-handedly and with self-reflection. I have confidence in you. :-) GUÐSÞEGN – U T E X – 23:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy: |
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DISCLAIMER: This humor does not reflect the official humor of Wikipedia, the Wikimedia Foundation, or Jimbo Wales. All rights released under GDFL. |
Hi Ian13/Archive5! You've signed up to be a judge for the Esperanza User Page Award! You'll have three user pages to examine. The user pages you get coincide with your signup number. So if you signed up to be a judge in spot 1 than you will get nominations 1-3. Pick your favorite one, and list it in the finalist section. After all 5 judges have chosen a finalist it's time to award them 1-10 points in the four categories:
Please remember to include Subpages in your judging criteria. See the Scores section on this page for additional information on your job as a judge.
Keep in mind that your scores are confidential! Email [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] with your scores and final picks. As soon as all the scores have been tallied, a winner will be announced! Thanks.
KnowledgeOfSelf 12:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
The pages that you are to pick a finalist for are:
Congrats on becoming an admin! I was hoping you could help with something. In deletion review (and the deletion process for that matter) and article was deleted that I believe should not have been. User:Tony Sidaway agrees. The article was deleted for notability, but the person in question was mentioned in about a dozen different mainstream media articles, included a recent front page article in the New York Times. Can you take a look and vote accordingly? The review is here. Wikipedia:Deletion Review#John Bambenek. Thanks. -- Alpha269 04:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Could you please bock the following IP:
129.100.190.85. He vandalized the Federalism article, wiping out introduction, replacing it with "Joe is the man."
Thanks GUÐSÞEGN – U T E X – 22:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
I think we edit conflicted because I was was about to do the block after I reverted a user page. Thanks again.-- Dakota ~ ° 22:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
You blocked 80.188.28.2 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) for 31 hours for vandalism/etc. A quick search with Google and a traceroute reveal that this is an open proxy located in the Czech Republic. Judging by the contrib history, it is obviously being utilized by User:TruthCrusader, who is also located in the Czech Republic. - Chadbryant 22:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Ian,
We're having some trouble with the {{ User United Kingdom}} user box. Having been up for 2 months since December with the text "This user comes from the United Kingdom", or slight variants thereof, some people decided (on the basis of a straw poll of four votes to one) to change it to "This user lives in the United Kingdom".
The reason they give is that the template's text and categorisation didn't match: the category linked to Wikipedians in the United Kingdom. I feel strongly however, that the TEXT in a user box is far more important than the CATEGORY, since most users will pick their boxes on the basis of the text, when browsing through the available boxes (that's what I did anyway). Therefore either the box's category should be changed, or it should be left in the slightly anomalous state as it has been for all that time. The text should NOT be changed.
It seems to me that a golden rule of user boxes should be that the essence of their text does not change once they're established, otherwise users are suddenly misrepresented without their necessarily realising it. What do you suggest as the resolution to this issue? — SteveRwanda 12:33, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, the thing is that you sent me a message called "last change" saying that the pictures that I uploaded "Northamerica.gif" didn't have the original link but it did... anyway here it is again so you can check it and send me a message back. thank you.
URL: http://www.mcx.es/polco/images/Norteamerica.gif
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Supaman89 ( talk • contribs)
Supaman's anwer
Well yeah you might be right but come on everything is copyrighted only in very few sites it says that it's free to use so my question is would it make any difference if I kind of change the colours or something and put some names to the image as if it was made by me??? just the necesary so they cannot say that it's their picture... haha that seems legal to me it might not be honest but technically it's legal... don't get me wrong man but it's the truth tell me how many pages you've seen that says "you are free to use this picture". I'm just trying to make wikipedia a better place with more information ok.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Supaman89 ( talk • contribs)
Regarding the situation here, if I were to Request a Comment, how would I do so? I have looked at the categories on WP:RFC and none of them seem to fit a userbox dispute very well.
The reason I ask is because I have little doubt that I am in the right here, and I believe it to be a safe assumption that the other side feels the same way about themselves and there is no real compromise to be reached here - it should be one or the other. If more people comment in good faith (by good faith I mean something above "all userboxes are stupid") and there is a clear consensus against my point, I have no problem leaving the template as is however I am reluctant to do so because of what I see as two users (one of which is now using a more correct template anyway) being stubborn and hypocritical reverting the edit simply because it has been revealed that they were using the template under a misconception.
The proposal I put forth at Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Location/United Kingdom with five comments (4:1 in favour) is clearly not a scientificly accurate indicator of the wishes of everyone who uses these templates and I have not purported it to be so, but at present it is the best we have and as such I feel it should hold more weight than the assumptions put forth by SteveRwanda. I see it as little different from a Tfd discussion - not everyone who uses it will coment or vote, but the decision will be upheld regardless.
I don't mean to make my case for change to you personally, but your "straw poll" comment led me to believe that's how you viewed the proposal and I would like to make you aware of how I see it. - Hayter 15:26, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Ian13, I hereby award you the userbox barnstar for contributions to WikiProject Userboxes.
This user has been awarded a userbox barnstar for his work designing new userboxes. |
-- Preschooler.at.heart 02:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
if you delete a link to a commercial site you should delete all the others links to other commercial sites on the same list.
But i understand why you are doing this and I'm sorry for you.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebans ( talk • contribs)
if you delete a link to a commercial site you should delete all the others links to other commercial sites on the same list. Deleting only one link shows something wrong and not nice about you.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebans ( talk • contribs)
: I added the 3 links only becouse I found there were other commercial links and I added the link at the bottom
You better delete all the other commercial links .
sebans
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebans ( talk • contribs)
Hey Ian, I'm busy until the end of March; so I've made you acting chair of WP:CJ. Okay? Computerjoe 's talk 21:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
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Good luck on your exams:) — nath a(?) nrdotcom ( T • C • W) 21:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
GCSE's! *gasp* Good luck!! -- Nataly a 18:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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This is a notification reminding you all, especially councillors, that we are having a meeting where we will try to review progress so far and make a few decisions.
This meeting will be held on a wikipage, and well end on Saturday 15th April.
You can partake in the meeting here.
Thank you,
Computerjoe 's talk 17:07, 11 April 2006 (UTC) (Chairman of WP:CJ.)
Message delivered through AWB.
See: Talk:Serbia -- Hipi Zhdripi 19:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Just to let you know, I undid your block of this shared IP address following a complaint on OTRS. About 22 of the 24 hours of the block have already run, and as you said this is a slow-moving vandal, so I think the block has already served it's purpose, and there should be no problems unblocking :) -- bainer ( talk) 09:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the block re: Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. ;-) Netscott 12:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Ian. Yes, I'm the contact (along with Mindspillage). We always need volunteers, so thanks for putting your name forward. If it's OK, we'll have a look at what you do, and see if your experience and style fit with what we are looking for, and let you know within the next couple of days. Thanks again -- sannse (talk) 17:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
My signature worked!!! (if you don't already know.) Thanks for all the help. Jonathan talk File:Canada flag 300.png 00:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
hi there Ian13! I completely understand, and will change my vote comment accordingly. I'm sure you understand that my vote was not easily swayed, and that I took as much as I could into account when making my final vote. There were just a couple of things that I clearly didn't quite understand, which Mal explained to me (as is evident on the talk pages). You're right that the discussion should have taken place at the appropriate discussion page. Con Dem Talk 23:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Happy Easter! You have an amazing user page, by the way. At some point I might ask for you help/advice in creating one like that of my own, if that's alright... Con D e m Talk 02:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Everyone else seems to have stolen all the good Easter pictures and stuff, but I wish you a Happy Easter all the same. — FireFox • T [16:18, 16 April 2006]
What personal attacks are you talking about? I'm being labeled, attacked and harassed by User:Timothy_Usher but I don't see a similar rebuke of this user by you on his talk page. Is there some reason why you are settling on taking sides? User247 20:53, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
As Wikipedia:Community Justice has over 30 members, we are beginning the elections process.
If you are interested in becoming the chairman, the chief executive or councillor please add yourself, and a statement, to Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections.
Voting shall begin on April 24th, and end on May 1st. To see if you are eligible for a vote, please see Wikipedia:Community Justice/Elections.
Thank you,
Computerjoe 's talk 21:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello! Would you mind awfully if I stole your 'Click to show' thing for my userpage? I was planning a revamp, and the easiest way to go about it is probably to steal ideas from other userpages ¬_¬ -- Doug ( talk) 22:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)