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Hi, saw your edits to the clonazepam page. Using stats for an entire drug class ie SSRIs against stats for a single drug in the benzodiazepine drug class is not putting things in perspective I don't feel but is doing the opposite.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 16:51, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for your reply. I agree that getting better or at least additional sources might be worthwhile. I know that SSRIs are almost identical if not identical as far as mechanism of action goes. I was talking about numbers of people not mechanism of action. Table 9 and I think the entire study but certainly table 9 is describing non-medical use. I would say that the vast majority of SSRI ED visits were due to suicide attempts with a small number being drug abuse related. Stats for acute adverse reactions from therapeutic doses would not be included. Unfortunately you are misinterpreting the ref by not realising that non-medical use in the study means only getting high. It includes all forms of non-medical use, including drug abuse, self harm/overdose etc.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 17:45, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree that there are methodology problems with the publication. Partly yes but also because you are using an entire drug group versus one member of another group. It wouldn't have been as bad if you were comparing one commonly prescribed SSRI in the USA to say clonazepam which is commonly prescribed in the USA. Your concerns are valid and I think that the best way of resolving this would be to find a better reference. Yup indeed you are correct that a lot of the clonazepam cases would be suicide attempts as well. The abuse potential of SSRIs is extremely low whereas the abuse potential of benzodiazepines is higher.
Oh yes I understand your edits are to bring improvements to the article which is why I welcomed you to the project and you have gotten me thinking of how to better improve the drug misuse section.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 18:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
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16:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, saw your edits to the clonazepam page. Using stats for an entire drug class ie SSRIs against stats for a single drug in the benzodiazepine drug class is not putting things in perspective I don't feel but is doing the opposite.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 16:51, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for your reply. I agree that getting better or at least additional sources might be worthwhile. I know that SSRIs are almost identical if not identical as far as mechanism of action goes. I was talking about numbers of people not mechanism of action. Table 9 and I think the entire study but certainly table 9 is describing non-medical use. I would say that the vast majority of SSRI ED visits were due to suicide attempts with a small number being drug abuse related. Stats for acute adverse reactions from therapeutic doses would not be included. Unfortunately you are misinterpreting the ref by not realising that non-medical use in the study means only getting high. It includes all forms of non-medical use, including drug abuse, self harm/overdose etc.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 17:45, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree that there are methodology problems with the publication. Partly yes but also because you are using an entire drug group versus one member of another group. It wouldn't have been as bad if you were comparing one commonly prescribed SSRI in the USA to say clonazepam which is commonly prescribed in the USA. Your concerns are valid and I think that the best way of resolving this would be to find a better reference. Yup indeed you are correct that a lot of the clonazepam cases would be suicide attempts as well. The abuse potential of SSRIs is extremely low whereas the abuse potential of benzodiazepines is higher.
Oh yes I understand your edits are to bring improvements to the article which is why I welcomed you to the project and you have gotten me thinking of how to better improve the drug misuse section.-- Literaturegeek | T@1k? 18:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)