Just wanted to say thanks for your reply. I was actually in the process of replying when you replied to the wrong person. I put in my explanation of what i had done moved your reply in after mine which I then flagged that i had edited the record that way and then I made a reply myslef
the conversation can be found here /info/en/?search=Talk:Suicide_among_LGBT_youth#Hate_Speach_-_masquerading_as_.27psychology.27_.26_.27Balance.27
and i moved the offending paragraph to its own article here /info/en/?search=Draft:Suicide_is_no_higher_for_LGBT_youth_than_any_other_group and then linked to it the references at the bottom of the references so the information is not lost - its placed in a better context
Obviously you might want to reply to what I have said in my talk post or edit what you have said now you understand the context thanks X-mass ( talk) 15:52, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the comment here. That explains why the talk page comment and edit summary didn't match up! I'll drop a reply on the article talk page. Thanks :) GoddersUK ( talk) 15:59, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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about your reverting my revert on page of Irom Sharmila so long as it's more than one editor it's your club your rules. I am not going to revert a revert which has a second opinion i am cool with that. Take care now78.17.55.197 (talk) 13:19, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi 78.17.55.197, I moved your comment into a new section. Sorry, I think I was a bit quick with my mouse there! I thought "Doc Crazy" was an abusive moniker, not the guys actual username! (Generally we shouldn't mess with others' talk page comments unless they're abusive, spam etc., I may not have made the right judgment call there...) That said there's never really any call to use an obscenity in talk page comment. As for the rest of your discussion, I haven't looked into what it's about... Thanks for stopping by! GoddersUK ( talk) 13:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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No that's fine if you can read up on some of the concerns I have had some have been removed. But I don't feel strongly enough to press them. I appreciate in places where there are formal rules of conduct you can destroy your case by reverting to obscenity just as those who learn all the acronyms even if they don't really understand them can make this their own kindom. My concern was that people used to living in the west talk do not understand the problems of verifiability when dealing with matters in a third world police state where all communication is censored. That is why they have so many prisoners of conscience there and why so little is really known about their struggle. Some people think that is a valid point and aids discussion of the page about a third world prisoner of conscience others think it is WP NOTFORUM. It's your page. If you have an opinion on the problems of verification in a third world police state where there is endemic corruption you can join in that discussion if it is allowed or not. Thanks for explaining why you removed the comment if you put it back i think few read. I thought you had read the discussion and were picking a side. It seems more likely few read and care less. wiki is a reflection of the real world. I go now. got no quarrel with you you don't appear to have any agenda either. 78.17.55.197 ( talk) 09:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Mention 78.17.55.197, so they get a notification! GoddersUK ( talk) 15:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC) The problem is with conflict of interest with medical wikis it's done usually to push one form of drug treatment over another and is about money. With political wikis it's to get people killed. And the problem as you say is no one takes reponsibility for checking. I gave verifiable reports which were removed. By verifiable wiki means published for example by newspapers which have some kind of editorial sifting. it doesn't have to be true or reliable just verifiable. Wiki doesn't try to define truthfulness and if reports vary you put it under a controversies section and provide references to different version. This isn't happening here but most of the abuses have been ironed out by the new guy.
Wiki is more likely to be shut down in third world police states because it tells the truth but usually there are ways around censorship. I don't really want to get into a long discussion with you. You removed a text because you agree now you misread it. If you want to undo your edit do so if not don't. You won't get involved in editing another editor's mistakes because you want to get along. But on the theory of encyclopaedias you have a point. The reason you have COIN and other groups is you know false information is being peddled here. One editor told me many articles are reduced to what he calls rubbish. It's not your job singlehandedly to check the veracity of articles but why did you get involved at all. If you are worried that Sharmila might sue wiki I can provide you with full legal cover but that isn't your concern. What I find irriating is if I ask why something is removed and am told its because of X and then I point out I have fulfilled that condition they say they meant because of Y or Z. It is very difficult for an editor without any specialist knowledge to edit an encylcopaedia entry on a specialist subject. But that was always a downside of allowing anyone to edit. In practice you grant access to editing not to specialists in the subject but wiki enthusiasts. It's what it is. I chatted because you did. I dont agree with any of hte theory it's not being implemented very well but if you don't look at the facts of this case which you admit you aren't doing how could you possibly know one way or another.
But if you are busy and everyone is. I think there are far more egregious abuses of information going on in wiki and maybe get involved in the ones you have time for or not. For some this replaces video games or porn surfing and is probably a healthier option although there are counterviews which are both published and verifiable I am sure you could do all three. 78.17.55.197 ( talk) 11:51, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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Hi GoddersUK. You recently made an edit over at Talk:Nureongi where you reverted an edit by an IP. Please have a look at their contributions. I suspect they might be a sockpuppet.DrChrissy (talk) 16:53, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Re TV licensing WOIRA. I have issued TV licensing with sevral 'WOIRA's, verbally, by recorded delivery, once via the police (who do not take ANY complaints about TVL, perhaps I'll add something about that, too. 8 years on, TVL still visit. So when you revert my edits saying that they do not respect WOIRAs, you are quite wrong. I could fume merrily about TVL after 27 years of harrasment and still with no end in sight, but I'm keeping it factual.
I do not know how to 'reference' their ignoring of WOIRAs. I only know that TV licensing do not respect WOIRAs by the fact that I have issued them with several over the past 8 years at the same house, but their 'agents' (I am keeping it civil!) STILL knock on my door. I doubt that I am alone. I can understand there being a processing lag, but this is getting towards a decade after sending the first one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pictsidhe ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Sorry about ranting abouty this on your talk page, wasn't sure where else to do it. I hope I've given you enough clues to go on that TVL do ignore WOIRAs. I can see why you would like some evidence. I signed in and if you look, you'll see I don't have history of writing crap on wikipedia, just occasional minor edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pictsidhe ( talk • contribs) 16:06, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I added some links here to sites saying that TVL now ignore woiras, but they've gone. Found with googling 'TVL ignoring WOIRA' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pictsidhe ( talk • contribs) 16:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
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Just wanted to say thanks for your reply. I was actually in the process of replying when you replied to the wrong person. I put in my explanation of what i had done moved your reply in after mine which I then flagged that i had edited the record that way and then I made a reply myslef
the conversation can be found here /info/en/?search=Talk:Suicide_among_LGBT_youth#Hate_Speach_-_masquerading_as_.27psychology.27_.26_.27Balance.27
and i moved the offending paragraph to its own article here /info/en/?search=Draft:Suicide_is_no_higher_for_LGBT_youth_than_any_other_group and then linked to it the references at the bottom of the references so the information is not lost - its placed in a better context
Obviously you might want to reply to what I have said in my talk post or edit what you have said now you understand the context thanks X-mass ( talk) 15:52, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the comment here. That explains why the talk page comment and edit summary didn't match up! I'll drop a reply on the article talk page. Thanks :) GoddersUK ( talk) 15:59, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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about your reverting my revert on page of Irom Sharmila so long as it's more than one editor it's your club your rules. I am not going to revert a revert which has a second opinion i am cool with that. Take care now78.17.55.197 (talk) 13:19, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi 78.17.55.197, I moved your comment into a new section. Sorry, I think I was a bit quick with my mouse there! I thought "Doc Crazy" was an abusive moniker, not the guys actual username! (Generally we shouldn't mess with others' talk page comments unless they're abusive, spam etc., I may not have made the right judgment call there...) That said there's never really any call to use an obscenity in talk page comment. As for the rest of your discussion, I haven't looked into what it's about... Thanks for stopping by! GoddersUK ( talk) 13:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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No that's fine if you can read up on some of the concerns I have had some have been removed. But I don't feel strongly enough to press them. I appreciate in places where there are formal rules of conduct you can destroy your case by reverting to obscenity just as those who learn all the acronyms even if they don't really understand them can make this their own kindom. My concern was that people used to living in the west talk do not understand the problems of verifiability when dealing with matters in a third world police state where all communication is censored. That is why they have so many prisoners of conscience there and why so little is really known about their struggle. Some people think that is a valid point and aids discussion of the page about a third world prisoner of conscience others think it is WP NOTFORUM. It's your page. If you have an opinion on the problems of verification in a third world police state where there is endemic corruption you can join in that discussion if it is allowed or not. Thanks for explaining why you removed the comment if you put it back i think few read. I thought you had read the discussion and were picking a side. It seems more likely few read and care less. wiki is a reflection of the real world. I go now. got no quarrel with you you don't appear to have any agenda either. 78.17.55.197 ( talk) 09:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Mention 78.17.55.197, so they get a notification! GoddersUK ( talk) 15:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC) The problem is with conflict of interest with medical wikis it's done usually to push one form of drug treatment over another and is about money. With political wikis it's to get people killed. And the problem as you say is no one takes reponsibility for checking. I gave verifiable reports which were removed. By verifiable wiki means published for example by newspapers which have some kind of editorial sifting. it doesn't have to be true or reliable just verifiable. Wiki doesn't try to define truthfulness and if reports vary you put it under a controversies section and provide references to different version. This isn't happening here but most of the abuses have been ironed out by the new guy.
Wiki is more likely to be shut down in third world police states because it tells the truth but usually there are ways around censorship. I don't really want to get into a long discussion with you. You removed a text because you agree now you misread it. If you want to undo your edit do so if not don't. You won't get involved in editing another editor's mistakes because you want to get along. But on the theory of encyclopaedias you have a point. The reason you have COIN and other groups is you know false information is being peddled here. One editor told me many articles are reduced to what he calls rubbish. It's not your job singlehandedly to check the veracity of articles but why did you get involved at all. If you are worried that Sharmila might sue wiki I can provide you with full legal cover but that isn't your concern. What I find irriating is if I ask why something is removed and am told its because of X and then I point out I have fulfilled that condition they say they meant because of Y or Z. It is very difficult for an editor without any specialist knowledge to edit an encylcopaedia entry on a specialist subject. But that was always a downside of allowing anyone to edit. In practice you grant access to editing not to specialists in the subject but wiki enthusiasts. It's what it is. I chatted because you did. I dont agree with any of hte theory it's not being implemented very well but if you don't look at the facts of this case which you admit you aren't doing how could you possibly know one way or another.
But if you are busy and everyone is. I think there are far more egregious abuses of information going on in wiki and maybe get involved in the ones you have time for or not. For some this replaces video games or porn surfing and is probably a healthier option although there are counterviews which are both published and verifiable I am sure you could do all three. 78.17.55.197 ( talk) 11:51, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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Hi GoddersUK. You recently made an edit over at Talk:Nureongi where you reverted an edit by an IP. Please have a look at their contributions. I suspect they might be a sockpuppet.DrChrissy (talk) 16:53, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Re TV licensing WOIRA. I have issued TV licensing with sevral 'WOIRA's, verbally, by recorded delivery, once via the police (who do not take ANY complaints about TVL, perhaps I'll add something about that, too. 8 years on, TVL still visit. So when you revert my edits saying that they do not respect WOIRAs, you are quite wrong. I could fume merrily about TVL after 27 years of harrasment and still with no end in sight, but I'm keeping it factual.
I do not know how to 'reference' their ignoring of WOIRAs. I only know that TV licensing do not respect WOIRAs by the fact that I have issued them with several over the past 8 years at the same house, but their 'agents' (I am keeping it civil!) STILL knock on my door. I doubt that I am alone. I can understand there being a processing lag, but this is getting towards a decade after sending the first one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pictsidhe ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Sorry about ranting abouty this on your talk page, wasn't sure where else to do it. I hope I've given you enough clues to go on that TVL do ignore WOIRAs. I can see why you would like some evidence. I signed in and if you look, you'll see I don't have history of writing crap on wikipedia, just occasional minor edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pictsidhe ( talk • contribs) 16:06, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I added some links here to sites saying that TVL now ignore woiras, but they've gone. Found with googling 'TVL ignoring WOIRA' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pictsidhe ( talk • contribs) 16:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
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Because the entire list of Edinburgh acts (which thrived and pushed Scottish Hip-Hop to new levels) has been removed. A certain Glasgow group has removed EVERYTHING that isn't connected with themselves and put their name in blue... You know this page is going to go nuts with edits of people trying to get correct information on. I urge you to reset it back 6 months when it was honest and real. Now it's just bullshit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.231.138 ( talk) 15:41, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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Hey GoddersUK! I here to tell you that, there been an annoying user who keep reverting edits that have something to do about music genres. Article like " 679", Blacc Hollywood, O.N.I.F.C. and The New Classic. Can you at least block that guy or something? TheAmazingPeanuts ( talk) 18:17, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
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I'm attempting to include other facets of this business in the article on ResellerRatings. I invite you to participate on Talk:ResellerRatings. Previously, you attempted to improve the article by removing company PR inserted by user Techimo (who is obviously affiliated with the company and keeps anything which he considers unflattering from appearing therein.) I'm trying to rectify that and make the article more well rounded. ZeroShadows ( talk) 16:37, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
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