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Hello, in response to this: [1], I don't think I have edited that page before. Did you perhaps contact the wrong person? -- Hdt83 Chat 23:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Your edit here represents the conventional spelling which has been established for this article -- Yōshū, not Yoshu.
I draw no inferences from the absence of macrons in The Japan Times or Christie's sale page. The relevant citations were not homogenized with the spelling of the first paragraph of the article. Please do feel free to create spelling consistency in this article. I hope in future you will not construe my neutral intentions or questions as disputing or disagreeing.
There is an inherent flaw in the otherwise reasonable approach you have taken to this subject. This doesn't in any way imply or impute factual error Please try to understand that this so-called "flaw" appears to be somewhat outside the ambit of your off-wiki expectations.
A core principle of Wikipedia is "verifiability" which means something different in this online venue than in real life. This concept is summarized in this way:
You appear to be primarily concerned with whether something is true/not true or correct/incorrect. Yes, this is a core element of academic credibility; however, verifiability, as construed in our Wikipedia venue, means something a little bit different. If it becomes a problem at some point in the future, we can address this together at that time. -- Tenmei ( talk) 04:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
GENRES What I would like to accomplish (with your help) is to place a copy of http://chikanobu.com/shinrefer.asp #28 just to the right of "bijin-ga" as an example. I am unsure of how to accomplish this. GaryD144 ( talk) 23:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I have asked Durova to offer opinions about Toyohara Chikanobu#Genres.
I have reached out to here at User talk:Durova#Meiji era ukiyo-e. Perhaps her comments {and her expertise with digital images) will prove more helpful than mine? -- Tenmei ( talk) 20:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
There may be a more elegant way to accomplish what you want to do with the Chikanobu galleries. Perhaps the formatting at Utagawa Kuniyoshi#Themes can be modified to meet your needs in this article?
My proposed solution mixes column-formatting and gallery-formatting. As far as I know, no one has attempted to do anything like this in other contexts. -- Tenmei ( talk) 20:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Please comment on something I've done today in light of the reasoning in the thread at User talk:Tenmei#Category Naming on Commons.
In a few image captions, I substituted Yōshū Chikanobu for Toyohara Chikanobu in the captions of ukiyo-e images on the following pages:
The captions explicitly identify the artist; and since the obituary verifies that he most often used Yōshū Chikanobu in signing artwork, this choice does seem arguably reasonable and verified.
However, when I refer to this artist in any Wikipedia context except captions, I will use Toyohara Chikanobu because this is the name of the article about the artist.
For example, at Utagawa Kuniyoshi#Pupils, I wrote: "Among those influenced by Kuniyoshi was Toyohara Chikanobu."
Is this a good step in the right direction? Is my reasoning transparent? What do you think? -- Tenmei ( talk) 14:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Toyohara Chikanobu#Image galleries. This anticipates unhelpful criticism which -- hopefully -- may never become a problem. --19:30, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm having a little problem with a recent edit. Please consider tweaking this citation:
If I wanted to look at pages 76-98 in the library, I suspect that I would have trouble finding them. Among other suggestions, please add year of publication.
A reasonable question I might ask: Is this volume 15 related to
I enjoy following as the serial edits which help me learn more about Toyohara Chikanobu. -- Tenmei ( talk) 22:06, 14 October 2010 (UTC) I have the volume at home and will add the info as you suggest when I return there after May. GaryD144 ( talk) 14:36, 6 January 2011 (UTC) Please note: This is volume 40 (XL), not volume 15 (XV), year of publication is 2010. Should you want to read the article, the publication is available to you in my library. I will tweak the reference and add the year of publication. GaryD144 ( talk) 20:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Does the tweaked introduction text convey the relevant information? Are you satisfied with edits in the "Names" section? -- Tenmei ( talk) 17:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC) Thank you, but of course I would much prefer to see order of the names reversed GaryD144 ( talk) 14:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC) I would really like to see it read: Yōshū Chikanobu (楊洲周延) (1838–1912), also known as Toyohara Chikanobu (豊原周延), was a prolific woodblock artist of Japan's Meiji period. Can you see your way clear to write it thus? GaryD144 ( talk) 17:32, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Although I have seen a number of Russo-Japanese war battle triptychs by Chikanobu's students, I have been unable to find any images of the Russo-Japanese War (Nichi-Ro Sensō) by Chikanobu himself. I am quoting the one reference listed: "Christie's, New York: Lot 76/Sale 1702, 21 September 2006; excerpt, "Toyohara Chikanobu (1838-1912)... Twenty-four triptychs: Nisshin sensoki (Report of the Sino-Japanese War), signed Yoshu Chikanobu, published by Maki Kinnosuke, 1895.3.6; along with twenty-three triptychs of various subjects, most Sino-Japanese war battles, several Russo-Japanese war battles on land and sea, two of officials at treaty negotiations, most signed Yoshu Chikanobu, variously published;" Artelino, "Japanese War Prints" citing Shumpei Okamoto. (1983). Impressions of the Front: Woodcuts of the Sino Japanese War, 1894-95, Philadelphia Museum of Art, OCLC 179964815" Please note the word: most. I have not seen this catalog; the wording is unclear so that the reader remains unaware whether the scenes of the Russo-Japanese war battles were signed by Chikanobu or another artist. Until this catalog is produced, I would strongly recommend that all references to Chikanobu and scenes of the Russo-Japanese War be eliminated. GaryD144 ( talk) 20:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Your good work in developing Toyohara Chikanobu has gone unnoticed for too long. I have taken some small steps to remedy this oversight:
This review process may include suggestions which you are free to accept or reject. -- Tenmei ( talk) 17:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
This article was removed from Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/ToDo. -- Tenmei ( talk) 13:45, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
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I found this word in a legitimate article. One of the better definitions might be "to plunge into" whether water or a new field of endeavor. It should be placed in (Spanish) Wiktionary GaryD144 ( talk) 18:35, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
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Hello, in response to this: [1], I don't think I have edited that page before. Did you perhaps contact the wrong person? -- Hdt83 Chat 23:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Your edit here represents the conventional spelling which has been established for this article -- Yōshū, not Yoshu.
I draw no inferences from the absence of macrons in The Japan Times or Christie's sale page. The relevant citations were not homogenized with the spelling of the first paragraph of the article. Please do feel free to create spelling consistency in this article. I hope in future you will not construe my neutral intentions or questions as disputing or disagreeing.
There is an inherent flaw in the otherwise reasonable approach you have taken to this subject. This doesn't in any way imply or impute factual error Please try to understand that this so-called "flaw" appears to be somewhat outside the ambit of your off-wiki expectations.
A core principle of Wikipedia is "verifiability" which means something different in this online venue than in real life. This concept is summarized in this way:
You appear to be primarily concerned with whether something is true/not true or correct/incorrect. Yes, this is a core element of academic credibility; however, verifiability, as construed in our Wikipedia venue, means something a little bit different. If it becomes a problem at some point in the future, we can address this together at that time. -- Tenmei ( talk) 04:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
GENRES What I would like to accomplish (with your help) is to place a copy of http://chikanobu.com/shinrefer.asp #28 just to the right of "bijin-ga" as an example. I am unsure of how to accomplish this. GaryD144 ( talk) 23:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I have asked Durova to offer opinions about Toyohara Chikanobu#Genres.
I have reached out to here at User talk:Durova#Meiji era ukiyo-e. Perhaps her comments {and her expertise with digital images) will prove more helpful than mine? -- Tenmei ( talk) 20:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
There may be a more elegant way to accomplish what you want to do with the Chikanobu galleries. Perhaps the formatting at Utagawa Kuniyoshi#Themes can be modified to meet your needs in this article?
My proposed solution mixes column-formatting and gallery-formatting. As far as I know, no one has attempted to do anything like this in other contexts. -- Tenmei ( talk) 20:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Please comment on something I've done today in light of the reasoning in the thread at User talk:Tenmei#Category Naming on Commons.
In a few image captions, I substituted Yōshū Chikanobu for Toyohara Chikanobu in the captions of ukiyo-e images on the following pages:
The captions explicitly identify the artist; and since the obituary verifies that he most often used Yōshū Chikanobu in signing artwork, this choice does seem arguably reasonable and verified.
However, when I refer to this artist in any Wikipedia context except captions, I will use Toyohara Chikanobu because this is the name of the article about the artist.
For example, at Utagawa Kuniyoshi#Pupils, I wrote: "Among those influenced by Kuniyoshi was Toyohara Chikanobu."
Is this a good step in the right direction? Is my reasoning transparent? What do you think? -- Tenmei ( talk) 14:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Toyohara Chikanobu#Image galleries. This anticipates unhelpful criticism which -- hopefully -- may never become a problem. --19:30, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm having a little problem with a recent edit. Please consider tweaking this citation:
If I wanted to look at pages 76-98 in the library, I suspect that I would have trouble finding them. Among other suggestions, please add year of publication.
A reasonable question I might ask: Is this volume 15 related to
I enjoy following as the serial edits which help me learn more about Toyohara Chikanobu. -- Tenmei ( talk) 22:06, 14 October 2010 (UTC) I have the volume at home and will add the info as you suggest when I return there after May. GaryD144 ( talk) 14:36, 6 January 2011 (UTC) Please note: This is volume 40 (XL), not volume 15 (XV), year of publication is 2010. Should you want to read the article, the publication is available to you in my library. I will tweak the reference and add the year of publication. GaryD144 ( talk) 20:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Does the tweaked introduction text convey the relevant information? Are you satisfied with edits in the "Names" section? -- Tenmei ( talk) 17:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC) Thank you, but of course I would much prefer to see order of the names reversed GaryD144 ( talk) 14:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC) I would really like to see it read: Yōshū Chikanobu (楊洲周延) (1838–1912), also known as Toyohara Chikanobu (豊原周延), was a prolific woodblock artist of Japan's Meiji period. Can you see your way clear to write it thus? GaryD144 ( talk) 17:32, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Although I have seen a number of Russo-Japanese war battle triptychs by Chikanobu's students, I have been unable to find any images of the Russo-Japanese War (Nichi-Ro Sensō) by Chikanobu himself. I am quoting the one reference listed: "Christie's, New York: Lot 76/Sale 1702, 21 September 2006; excerpt, "Toyohara Chikanobu (1838-1912)... Twenty-four triptychs: Nisshin sensoki (Report of the Sino-Japanese War), signed Yoshu Chikanobu, published by Maki Kinnosuke, 1895.3.6; along with twenty-three triptychs of various subjects, most Sino-Japanese war battles, several Russo-Japanese war battles on land and sea, two of officials at treaty negotiations, most signed Yoshu Chikanobu, variously published;" Artelino, "Japanese War Prints" citing Shumpei Okamoto. (1983). Impressions of the Front: Woodcuts of the Sino Japanese War, 1894-95, Philadelphia Museum of Art, OCLC 179964815" Please note the word: most. I have not seen this catalog; the wording is unclear so that the reader remains unaware whether the scenes of the Russo-Japanese war battles were signed by Chikanobu or another artist. Until this catalog is produced, I would strongly recommend that all references to Chikanobu and scenes of the Russo-Japanese War be eliminated. GaryD144 ( talk) 20:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Your good work in developing Toyohara Chikanobu has gone unnoticed for too long. I have taken some small steps to remedy this oversight:
This review process may include suggestions which you are free to accept or reject. -- Tenmei ( talk) 17:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
This article was removed from Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/ToDo. -- Tenmei ( talk) 13:45, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
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I found this word in a legitimate article. One of the better definitions might be "to plunge into" whether water or a new field of endeavor. It should be placed in (Spanish) Wiktionary GaryD144 ( talk) 18:35, 14 May 2023 (UTC)