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FYI I wonder if those comments could be removed as personal attacks. — goethean ॐ 14:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for locking the page, now we have a still target to discuss. I will, in the next few days go line by line and discuss this page. I am willing to be very nice and hope the other editors "BE NICE" too.
I have been in contact with User:Jahiegel to help me in this. Thank you Joehazelton 20:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm asking for an Rfc [1] on the Clay Shaw page regarding the Max Holland article. Please comment. Ramsquire 17:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
could you take a look at the recent edits of Jojouka.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_master_musicians_of_Jajouka
I have a couple of users who feel that the commercial link they placed on several different articles is ethical and should not have been removed. Thanks, and have a great weekend. Rsm99833 20:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Please note my edit history. They're placing the link on other pages as well. Thanks again. Rsm99833 20:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Will you please allow a registered Wikipedia user "Jajouka" to edit this mess!!!! Wikipedia has much incorrect information in its various pages on Joujouka, Master Musicians of Joujouka and The Master Musicians of Joujouka, all unfortunately redirected from Jajouka and Master Musicians of Jajouka. This is a serious error on the part of the editors who feel that users who correct incorrect statements about this group are perpetuating.
The user Jajouka just tried to add the following but it was not allowed:
Brian Jones (co-founder of the The Rolling Stones) recorded the Joujoukan musicians in 1968. This recording was released in 1971 as Brian Jones Presents The Pipes Of Pan At Joujouka. It fell out-of-print and became a collector's item before being reissued on compact disc in 1997 with a photograph of Bachir Attar, who was only five at the time of the recording, replacing Hamri's original cover painting of Brian Jones and the musicians in Joujouka. Hamri, who was never a musician, placed his name on the album as "composer" of Bachir Attar's father's music; he collected the money from album Brian Jones Presents the Pipes of Pan at Joujouka, and kept the money for himself. Hamri was then fired by the leader of the musicians at the time, Hadj el Abdesalam el-Attar, Bachir Attar's father. To prevent problems with visual copyright when the album was reissued in 1994, the record company suggested that the album be produced using a different cover.
Mick Jagger described Bachir Attar and The Master Musicians of Jajouka when he recorded with Bachir and the Jajouka musicians in 1989 as One of the most musically inspiring groups still left on the planet.
Please unblock Gammers ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). That is just his last name. Fred Bauder 21:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but I'm on the road (going to Las Vegas) and cannot follow proper protocol. Could you make a call or send this one up for consideration as if it belongs here or not-
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=6_Degrees_from_Truth&diff=prev&oldid=67578886
Again, sorry for any inconveniences. Have a good weekend.
Rsm99833 07:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
When you take it upon yourself to undo the work of two other editors who negotiated and compromised to include something that is based in reality, and not wikiality, then yes, I call that vandalism. The fact is that conservative bloggers DO use that alternate definition all the time. If you go to Conservative Underground and ask what swiftboating means, you will get that answer repeatedly. EECEE felt that blogs were not a reliable source, so I came up with those other three sources. He picked the t-shirt one to use. I'm not going to continue an edit war, but you have your head stuck up a dark hole if you refuse to believe that "swiftboating" means something other than the definition that you approve of. Crockspot 20:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
16:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Looking at the JFK assassination page, I think it is time to do one. But I don't know how. Ramsquire 22:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
How did you reach your decision? RPJ 23:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
It's been almost a year. Can you unprotect these now? I promise, I will behave 99% of the time. 67.18.109.218 01:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
You've been approved to use VandalSniper. Please let me know if you have any problems getting it working. -- Chris (talk) 03:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
For reverting my user talk page after Tchadienne's edit. I think he has problems and may need help. I doubt that editing Wikipedia is good for him just now. Anyway, thanks for your help. -- Guinnog 11:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks for uploading Image:Dagmarlife.jpeg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image can be used under a fair use license. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Kevin 09:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your edits. I edited the Jim Garrison article, including putting back some of the material you removed. The reason was that this version left almost no information at all about the Clay Shaw/Kennedy assasination case, which certainly is what Garrison is most famous for. Making the article more factual and more in line with NPOV is welcome. I encourage you to explain what the specific problems are with material you remove. I think the article needs more info on the famous case. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 20:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Refering to John Trumbull (poet). Added more links/pages off the 1911 text. Sidetracked by researching colonial american newspapers. My head is spinning. :) Electrawn 20:43, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello. At the Peter Roskam page there were several disputes, which lead to you protecting the page. I have no problem with that; however, there is an edit that I was hoping you could make on my behalf. I've posted my propsed addition at Talk:Peter Roskam / [2]. In my opinion there should be a discussion of the O'Hare Airport issue. I appreciate your help. Propol 02:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I know we have not agreed (although we have agreed once) but I am asking you for help. SBHarris is going over the top and definitely needs someone in a position like yourself to have a word with him. His answers to simple qustions are always long, lacking in paragraphs, have POVs, and worst of all, are extremely insulting. I know it has been said that a third party, or deceased, is "nuts", but attacking other editors so personally is attrocious. I think you may empathise with me on this one... Thanks. andreasegde 13:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Figured this was not relevant, so I moved it here, if you mind, you can revert:
Grand, we have the conservative POV warrior circuit here voting now, what I called the neo-conservative cabal before. User:Gamaliel, User:CJK, User:TDC, User:MONDO were is User:172?
Travb (
talk) 22:35, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, Gamaliel, as a Charter Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (Member No. 31) here's the info: annual membership fee: $50000. For those leaving the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, however, the membership fee is waived as long as you turn over your user name and password to the VLWC's computers. Upon receipt of the fee or information, you'll get your hat, tee-shirt, and complete Ann Coulter library.
PainMan 13:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I am going to add citations to the hannity page, there has been alot of vandalism, and im trying to fix the page. It would be great if you would remove your post from my talk page so I can finish this stuff. -- Zonerocks 21:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I made a slight NPOV adjustment to the blatantly POV edit that you reverted. I suggest you check the "Alleged debunking of SBVT assertions" section of the article's discussion page to understand where I am coming from. Related to this syndrome, I will remind you that John Kerry had a recollection seared.. SEARED.. into his memory, of being sent to Cambodia by Richard Nixon, at a time when Nixon was not even President yet. Cherry-picking minor discrepancies in the 35 year old recollections of decorated combat vets does nothing to discredit their core assertions. Crockspot 17:08, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Your revert of User:Tregoweth on this article reinserted poorly linked (external links instead of wikilinks) and copyrighted material (a cut and paste job from the Fox News website) originally inserted by User:Zonerocks. I'm sure this was an innocent mistake, but please be more careful when you dive into an edit war. Gamaliel 16:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
No, our contribution is not a press release. Everything we wrote was a verifiable fact. Health is a major part of USF now. The fact that there is no mention of it on the page, was a glaring ommision, that makes the article, dated, and inacurate. I am sorry that our hard work and research offended you.
Ken DeRoche & Edward Saint-Ivan
9-19-06 11:47pm EST I made some Grammatical error corrections to the Health article. Right after I resubmitted the cleaned up version, someone named Michael halterman deleted the entire article. Do you believe that was appripriate. I have since resubmitted. This type of behavour does not seem to foster much in the way of community. How would this clown like it if I arbitrarily deleted every article he has submitted. Shame on him. I think I have wasted enough time with this supposed "Encyclopedia"
Ken
Hi Gamaliel. I wanted to revisit the alternate definition of Swiftboating with you. We butted heads a while back over the use of t-shirts being sold at Cafe Press as a source. You came down pretty hard on me over it. I notice that the Fitzmas article also uses t-shirts from Cafe Press to source the definition and usage of THAT term. No one seems to have an issue with it. Since this has now been brought to your attention, I'm sure that if I add that alternate definition with the source back into the article, you will either not have a problem with it, or you will have a problem with both articles. A good natured test of your neutrality, if you will. Crockspot 21:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I am wondering if there will be any changes allowed at the Roskam page?
In the mean time, I would like you, since you locked the article, to add a tag to the page indicating that there is an on going NPOV dispute about this article. Let it be known that I am disputing the NPOV of the Roskam article.
Considering some of the issues I have pointed out at the [ Roskam talk pages], a {{POV}} tag placed on top of the Peter Roskam page would be most appropriate. The Peter Roskam article, as it sits, has to many sections, which any reasonable person could call in the question, the relevancy, accuracy and as well as the lack of poor or no citations for the pov assertions many of sections in that article make. The Roskam article appears, as I have read them, not to conform to the Wikipdia standards for living persons; is not encyclopedic in it's tone, and many of the assertions made in the article have flawed logic backing them. Until this NPOV Dispute is resolved, Please place the POV tag on this article.
Thanks Joehazelton 16:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Sorry that I did it again. I will slap myself silly until I stop it... andreasegde 19:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey there Gamaliel, I noticed that you voted for the Johnny Lee Clary article and I was wondering that you would be willing to help with an article or perhaps help with getting it out of its deletion tag. Any help would be appreciated. I have drafted it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Potters_house/Johnny_Lee_Clary Nick. Potters house 06:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Here we are again. Since you are an admin, I assume that you are familiar with WP:BLP. I suggest you refamiliarize yourself to be safe. Prostitution is a crime. Calling a living person a criminal on Wikipedia without high quality sources is not allowed. None of the sources provided give any proof that Gannon is indeed a prostitute. They are merely gossip, allegation, and political punditry. Gannon has never been arrested, charged, nor convicted of prostitution, nor has he made a public admission that he is a prostitute. I see no solid evidence that he ever advertised as a prostitute, only unsourced allegations made in articlea. These are not the "high quality" sources that are required by Wikipedia when dealing with living persons. When in doubt, always defer toward privacy of the individual. The policy is very clear. I think you are way off base in your position on this subject. If I have to, I will pursue this issue to the Board of Trustees if necessary, and I am positive that they will agree with me on this one. I have also asked for clarification on whether or not negative info has to be sourced at each instance, or if following a link to another article to find sources is "good enough". Crockspot 14:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC) Forgot to mention, I am reapplying the noncompliant tag. Please do not remove it until this issue is hashed out fully. As you know, removing maint. tags is considered vandalism. Crockspot 14:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
(Moving back to left margin) I don't believe you an threaten or accuse someone and then demand that they address whatever you feel like addressing and pretend you never threatened them or accused them of anything. But if it will end this silly back and forth, fine. The information on Gannon was widely reported in multiple news outlets. He openly advertised his services on multiple websites. We have the testimony of the person he hired to put up these sites. This is pretty open and shut. Gamaliel 18:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I would like to know what in my addition to the William Greer article constituted opinion and conjecture. Very little is known about William Greer, and the article is marked as a stub. What I had added was referenced and supported by fact, to any who care to look. What service do you think you are performing, as an "admin", other than censorship? Readers, I guess, are not allowed to consider the possibility that Greer fired the fatal shot into Kennedy's head, being content with the fact that he appeared in some family photos in 1962. Who do you work for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Laubin ( talk • contribs)
Biographies of Living Persons WP:BLP requires a higher wikipedia standard since the Siegenthaler Controversy in December 2005. Articles like these involve WP:LIBEL and WP:NPOV It has been 6 months, and wikipedia still has hundreds of potentially libelious articles.
Many editors and even administrators are generally unaware of potential defamation either direct or via WP:NPOV. To help protect wikipedia, I feel a large working group of historians, lawyers, journalists, administrators and everyday editors is needed to rapidly enforce policies.
I would like to invite you to join and particpate in a new working group, tenatively named Wikipedia:Libel-Protection Unit, a group devoted to WP:BLP, WP:LIBEL and WP:NPOV and active enforcement. From your experience and/or writings on talk pages, I look forward to seeing you there. Electrawn 16:45, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I reversed your deletions (please excuse if impolite) because of some information on Dr. Hart:
He is not a member of the American Physical Society, the American Astronomical Society, or the American Geophysical Union. That means he can't even present a paper at a meeting of one of those societies unless he gets a member to endorse it.
This site has a free search service for paper, abstracts, and the like:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/ads_abstracts.html
I searched and found almost nothing.
There is a review by Bruce Jakosky in Icarus, Vol. 127, pp. 264-265 of the second edition of his book,
Extraterrestrials, Where Are They? 2nd ed. B. Zuckerman and M. H. Hart (Eds.). Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, 1995. 239 pp., $39.95 hardback, $19.95 paperback
It turns out to be just a compendium of essays! According to Jakosky, the last chapter (the only one written by Hart himself) is unchanged from 1982, which Jakosky finds "distressing." The "editors do disservice to the community" by publishing out-of-date work, he says (Hart is one of the editors).
Zuckerman is well respected.
So if you like Mr. Hart you could add mention of the other book (on extraterrestrials). I also looked at the Montgomery Community College website and among the staff found no "professor". I e-mailed them to ask if they used titles like that but they have made no reply. It is possible that the faculty are "instructors". Not to stand on ceremony, but just to avoid aggrandizement of a guy who wants to partition the U.S. along "ethnic" lines. Reminds me of Bantustans. Carrionluggage 05:00, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
for the help. 132.241.246.111 21:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
OK knuckles duly rapped and noted. IMHO User talk:132.241.246.111 is adding contentious material and in some cases NPOV material as he has done previously. note taken, and I will ignore all edits,however inflammatory, from this user. Cheers Khukri ( talk . contribs) 22:03, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
I have no problem being called a vandal when I overstep my bounds but it's inflammatory to threaten to ban a person for calling the Unabomber a serial killer. 132.241.246.111 22:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Madge_Oberholtzer&action=history
I don't know everything about wikipedia but I know trying to intimidate editors is not allowed and that's what 75.13.99.82 does. 132.241.246.111 22:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
He's got a rotating server. The best way to get him to appear is to revert the article on Madge Oberholtzer. 132.241.246.111 22:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Note the edits of 132.241.246.111 to that very page:
Now, look at these edits by 132.241.246.111:
These are just some of the more blatant examples of vandalism by 132.241.246.111.
In reply to your
I'll tell you: Please don't allow yourself to be played by a vandal who keeps shopping his complaints around, seeking an administrator who is both gullible and precipitous. (You do not appear to be the latter.) — 12.72.69.26 01:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
The preeceding stalker troll is likely the same guy I was telling you about.
He too is on a rotating server making it difficult to quantify his vandalism.
yes I listed him as a sock puppet because he is one and I was tired of dealing with him.
132.241.246.111 03:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Now
My vandalism, BTW, quantifies at 0. — 12.72.69.26 03:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello Gamaliel,
Regarding the death of Chris Kennedy, my source for this information is the bands manager with whom I am acquanted. The incident happened early this morning.
I would imagine the information could be confirmed with local authorities, though I don't know which town in particular responded to the scene. I do no know that he was off the coast of Cape Cod at the time.
Chris Kennedy is in fact a stage name. At this time I don't want to release his actual name because of privacy issues.
If/when I found out more detail, I will let you know.
Thanks, Mike
Amazing that got through. I figured the Kerry article was pretty closely watched. Anyway, it seems like the thing to do is grab the version of that section from a while back, from before the vandalism, and replace it entirely. I'm leaving town for a couple days in just a minute, so I can't have a closer look now. Derex 21:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
All right, I cooled down a bit. You are too loose with that "bizarre" epithet. Let us try to resolve this peacefully. This is what I posted on "Template_talk:Blp#Image_change" page:
Please, change this "Two Girls" abomination to anything: Pioneer plaque, fine, though I think for a Biography Project it would be better to use an image of an old, leather-bound book with some press guilding and some silhouette that would offend no one: Beethoven's, Newton's, Aristotle's, you name it. I find "Two Girls" image so offensive that I am ready to blow the top and start a vandal war over it, and that's not really in my character. The problem is, this image is a racially motivated imposition of certain ideology that I despise. Human beings should be regarded strictly on their individual merits, without classifying them by race. Race-based political correctness is a racism, painful to anybody who has been persecuted on the basis of their ethnicity -- inverted racism, granted, but still a racism. Like those questions about your race in government's questionnaires. If they are skin-color blind, why do they care what my race is? The same with this "Two Girls" photograph. It is a real torture to me, to see it on the talk page dedicated to my favorite writer. Please, remove it ASAP!
You are too loose with that "bizarre" epithet. Insulting people will lead to nothing constructive for Wikipedia. I would appreciate any help in the speediest possible resolution of this matter. Please note that I am not the first one who has been revolted by this photo. Arvin Sloane 07:52, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Jack Vance is for talking about the Jack Vance article, not for your rants. Please keep your comments on topic. You can rant about the template on the template talk page. Gamaliel 02:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Arvin, you have been insulting and offensive, you have vandalised and you have made threats, and you have done more than enough to deserve blocking or banning. Wikipedia is not your sandbox or message board or a free speech zone. I'll let you have your little rant space for the time being, and when your conversation with Renesis13 is concluded, it will be archived. You will refrain from insulting individual Wikipedians or Wikipedians in general. You will refrain from using the article talk page for offtopic rants. You will refrain from making any threats or any other trollish behavior. If you persist in this behavior, you and your sockpuppets will be blocked. If you persist in evading those blocks, a report of your behavior will be made to your service provider. I hope it does not come to that. This will, I hope, be our last conversation. Gamaliel 04:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were the one to remove the discussion. I thought Arvin Sloane had. However, I am not discussing the template, and I do not see how the discussion is not related to the Jack Vance article. I want a legitimate answer -- it is destructive to Wikipedia to have little corners of the article space like this that are owned by a few people exhibiting troll-like behavior. If he wants a place that projects, templates, and Wikipedia work do not apply, he needs his own site. I want to know why Wikipedia is so important and yet so disgusting. -- Renesis13 02:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
It's the first time when someone removes my contribution from a discussion. May I ask, what is your historical education to do such thing? I hope you have written a number of books about the Sviet Union? If not - would you be so kind to revert the discussion to the state before your action?
Paul Robeson has been used by Soviet propaganda and obtained Stalin's prize. It's a shame. Xx236 07:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Stop vandalism Xx236 14:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel. I was wondering if you could clear something up for me. Tonight I discovered that somebody at IP 24.80.152.101 had vandalized the Mexico (game) page several times on 10 Sept. When I finished reverting the vandalism, I noticed that the IP in question appeared as a live link, so I clicked on it, planning to leave the user a message on his talk page. However, all I found was something called a "special page" for that IP number, with no talk page at all, and just a list of edits that had been carried out by someone at that IP (4 edits in total, all of them directed at the Mexico (game) page for some reason). So my question is: What gives? It almost looks like somebody set up a special page for himself just so he could do a little vandalism. Or is a "special page" actually "special" in some way that I'm not aware of? Buck Mulligan 03:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Dear Gamaliel,
I wrote the Wikipedia article on William Garnett that you have flagged for possible copyright problems. I believe that I have followed all Wikipedia guidelines in writing this article and that I did not violate any copyrights. The copyright flag you posted indicated that I should assert my copyright on the William Garnett talk page, but the link to that page indicates that there is no such page. Therefore, I am posting my reply to your page.
My primary source for the article is "William Garnett Aerial Photographs," 1996, published by the University of California Press. Other sources include recent obituaries in the Los Angeles Times, New York Times, San Francisco Chronicle and an artist profile at the J. Paul Getty Museum in Malibu.
There are 21 factual assertions about William Garnett in my article and each fact is corroborated by at least two of the reputable sources mentioned above. Most facts are corroborated by three or four of the sources. As a postscript to this note I have listed the 21 facts and then included an indication of what sources corroborate that fact. After that listing I include links to these online sources and a bibliographical reference to the book I cite.
If you consult these sources you will see that I have not violated any of their copyrights. I have simply laid out the salient, skeletal facts of William Garnett's life in the chronological order in which they occurred, according to these sources.
I hope you will examine the sources I have cited, agree that there are no copyright violations and remove the copyright flag from the article.
Sincerely,
H Lewis
The 21 factual assertions and their sources:
Birth year (explicit or implied): nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
Birth city: nyt, lat, wgap, getty
Move to Pasadena: nyt, lat, sfc (implied), wgap (to Altadena)
John Muir High School: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
Art Center School: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
Crime scene photography: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
Signal Corps service: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
G.I. Bill & flying: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
Bought first plane in 1947: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap (cites 1949)
Guggenheim grants: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
Fortune magazine appearance: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
One man show at Eastman House: nyt (says 4 man), lat, sfc, wgap
Family of Man exhibition: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
Use of a Cessna 170B: nyt, lat, wgap, getty (no model number cited)
1958 move to Napa: lat, wgap
UC Berkeley employment: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
Museum collections: nyt, lat (getty only), sfc, getty (getty only)
Wife Eula Beal & three sons: nyt, lat, sfc
Death date: nyt, lat, sfc
Death city: nyt, lat, sfc
Books by Garnett: lat, sfc, uc berkeley library
Getty Art Museum (getty)
http://www.getty.edu/art/gettyguide/artMakerDetails?maker=1580
Los Angeles Times (lat) http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-garnett5sep05,0,6657309.story?coll=la-home-obituaries
New York Times (nyt) http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/09/obituaries/09garnett.html
San Francisco Chronicle (sfc) URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/09/10/BAG0CL2UHU1.DTL
"William Garnett Aerial Photographs," 1996, University of California Press, Berkeley. (wgap)
UC Berkeley Library http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/
Replied at Talk:William Garnett. Gamaliel 18:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm one of the editors who has contributed significantly to the Patrick Kroupa article. My interest in all this began when the 60's Yippie Speaking Tour showed up on my campus in 2003. I made a lot of the sections in the article and unfortunately probably made it too gung ho in places, especially with liberal POV, I think part of the problem is I took the overall tone from all of the books, etc, and it's probably not appropriate for an encyclopedia entry.
I'd like to turn it into a good article which covers all relevant material (none of which is present post 2000 right now) removes material not necessary (civil rights section) and removes the liberal POV that got picked up from all the references used. I think I have a better overall grasp of style, after having read and used wikipedia for many years and contributed mostly to hacker underground articles, the latest of which was Mixter. I directly reference everything I write, backed up with real world books, articles, etc, not websites, there is no original research, but I guess that isn't the problem since nobody has ever found fault with that, only the overall tone.
I would very much appreciate advice on the following:
Although I made a lot of the article's structure, over time there have been hundreds of edits. May I simply add and remove sections without stepping on any toes?
I wanted to make changes and additions a long time ago, I even wrote the subject of the article and received no response. If I'm shooting a movie or writing a book, he seems to cooperate, any web oriented project does not seem to receive cooperation at all. This seems to extend to all projects they (the NY mindvox people) are involved with. Dead trees and movies, keep coming out. Their own website was last updated in 2003, all their efforts seem to be completely offline. At this point I mostly dropped it because my intent was not to anger or upset anyone and I ceased adding material or edits, which is when every organization he is a member of seems to have arrived and added themselves into the entry and started the "Affiliations" section which in my opinion should either be worked into the text, or removed.
To be succinct, my questions are:
May I edit/remove/change large sections of the article without upsetting the many editors or violating some policy of wikipedia?
Should I write any of the other main editors/wikipedia admins such as Myleslong (who is also in CDC with Kroupa) and ask them or mention this first, or simply do it and they can edit/revert at will?
The article has many links and all references I used are included. It also links web sites, but none are commercial or for profit. Neither Kroupa or anybody involved with Mindvox seems to be selling anything.
I've looked at bios of controversial people in similar positions such as Tim Leary, Burroughs, etc. Is there any other biographical article that stands out as a good example you think I should look at prior to making changes, or any other wikipedia policy I should read.
In short: I would like to bring the article into focus, remove the cruft and liberal POV and not enrage any of the other editors, some of them also admins on wikipedia. Probably that won't be possible, but I would like to do my best.
Thanks TrancedOut 02:43, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
The user evading block posted again on the Global warming talk page. Since you erased his comments before and he posted the exact same thing as before, I thought I'd let you know. Brusegadi 04:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
FYI — goethean ॐ 15:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Gamaliel. I'm an editor who spends a lot of time working in politically controversial topics making sure that POV doesn't work its way into the project. I was recently involved in a dispure with the user Getaway on a statement on the Sam Brownback page, and while browsing other topics of political pertinence I happened on the ongoing dispute at the Fred Phelps page. If there's any way I can be of assistance in disputed material, I am more than happy to lend a hand to make sure that NPOV is maintained, that no unreliable sources get through, and that interests stay out of the project. Just give me a shout on my talk page if I can be of assistance. -- Kuzaar- T- C- 15:38, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you recently participated in the discussion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roy St. Clair (4th nomination). You may also be interested in the following discussions for the following collectible card game players:
Thank you. -- Malber ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
See my answer on WP:ANI. -- LiverpoolCommander 12:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I've brought up this AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abid Chohan, which you had previously commented on a batch of Manchester councillors including Mr Chohan. I think he is one of the least notable entries. Perhaps you feel like commenting? JASpencer 14:12, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
As an administrator, your reverts of the Fox News Channel article are especially astounding. This highly debated addition to the article has been discussed on the talk page and can be found in the archives as well. As a result, it was removed from the article. Now, without discussing the change, you are imposing a POV on the article that you believe the channel is conservative. Even if you believe consensus has not been reached, continuing to add this assertion of bias to the article is inappropriate. As the talk page states, this is not a factual position. Please stop adding it to the article, atleast until a firm consensus is reached (which I believe already has). AuburnPilot Talk 05:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Just viewed the mess on the FNC Page that gamaliel has caused. It's common sense to view a talk page and anyway what you were trying to add was highly POV. Why did you keep editing with your own POV when different users were reverting it? if wiki has admins like this, it still has a long way to go before it can gain any real credibility. Perrymason 13:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel, I apologize for butting in here, but I notice that one of your edit summaries states that "obvious facts are not POV". I must ask, obvious to whom? Wikipedia is about sourcing claims, and verifiability. This is far from the first time I have watched you take this stance. Just because you think something is an obvious fact does not make it so, and does not release you from the responsibility of sourcing the claims you add to articles. In my opinion, you were adding POV OR. (Didn't the owner of Fox just give a bunch of money to Hillary? Certainly a multinational corporation cannot be labelled with an "obvious" political leaning.) Our history shows that there is a diverse group of editors, with widely differing personal POVs. But we must all learn to become more objective when editing. Not only does it make for a better encyclopedia, but is also gives us the added benefit of being able to hold our own POVs more credibly when they are based on verifiable sources. Crockspot 14:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Your edit to the introduction is an improvement and is fair. My only concern is that should such language be added to the CNN and MSNBC articles to be consistent? Especially with MSNBC, who in recent years has seemed to directly take on and try to counterbalance FoxNews. Ramsquire 17:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
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Oops, I could have sworn I used that dropdown menu. Fixed. Gamaliel 01:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm willing to work with the escort category, but I made a small adjustment. I removed the "sex worker" category from the category, and added this discription for the category: "This category is for persons who have offered or advertised their companionship for a monetary fee. Escorts may or may not be involved in sex work." BTW, somebody reverted your edit to gannon back to the courtesans and prostitutes cat, but I reverted back to your edit. Crockspot 19:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
In regard to your statement on WP:BLPN, I left you this reply there:
"Since it is Fox"? That is very POV. Do you have ANY evidence that Fox has EVER gotten a story wrong on the facts? It's fair to quibble over perceived "spin" that a particular organization may or may not apply to their coverage, but the factual accuracy of their reporting has never been at issue. If this is the the standard that you apply to the reliability of a source, then to be fair, anything sourced by The Nation, Daily Kos, TruthOut (Leopold), heck, even the NY Times (remember Jayson Blair's stories they had to retract?) and CBS (fake but accurate) would have to be brought into question. Do you really want to go there? Crockspot 19:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
I am fairly certain that, by your standard, I could gut the Jeff Gannon article, citing past reliability problems with most of the sources, and require that additional sources be found. I'm not planning to actually do that, just pointing out to you the double standard that you appear to apply when the subject is someone that you have "issues" with. Crockspot 19:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
I recently saw Laura2006's edits to Sami al-Arian. I think this user could use some mentoring, or at least some watching over. I have the page (al-Arian) on my watchlist, but I think it would be good if an administrator paid extra attention to this user until they get fully aquainted with Wikipedia's policies. Regards, DRK 20:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
The image in the Mark Souder article was, I believe, a photoshopped version of this jpg: [3], and was designed to make the Congressman appear particularly unattractive, I thought. I've not worked with image uploading (to replace the photoshopped one), and this appears to be a special situation in any case, so any assistance you could provide to fix the situation would be appreciated. John Broughton | Talk 17:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I've noticed you found your way onto the Byrd page. I have two questions for you, if I put a tag on the top of a page requesting citations, do I need to go through the article to each individual sentence that needs a cite? AND am I correct when I tell users that Wiki policy forbids users from posting unsourced and unattributaed slurs made by other people, on the talk pages. There is a user who wants to refer to one of Byrd's detractors as someone who has been "labelled an 'Uncle Tom' by many". Ramsquire 21:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Why did you delete my edit on Fox News it was factual that CNN recieves the same criticsm from the other side? ````Tannim Tannim 23:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe this version (which was there before the weasel editing) is more agreeable to a consensus and a compromise between the two positions: "The channel was created by Australian-American media magnate Rupert Murdoch, who hired Roger Ailes, then President of CNBC and a former Broadway musical producer as its founding CEO. Fox News is seen by critics of the channel as advocating conservative political positions, a charge which the channel, whose slogans include "Fair and Balanced" and "We Report, You Decide", denies.". Notice it contains the changes like removing "openly", "widely", and "operative". Seems to be the better choice. What are your thoughts? AuburnPilot Talk 06:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
This is all pretty minor stuff and with a little effort I think we can all come to a reasonable consensus on this. Gamaliel 20:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
I have initiated an RfC on this topic. It would be great if you'd participate rather than continuing to revert; at least until something comes of the RfC. AuburnPilot Talk 17:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
You deleted information from a Kennedy article on assassination theories because a living person was mentioned. You were then asked to identify the living person you believe exists. You still have not identified the person except to subsequently say that one exists. Could you please either identify the person who you use as the reason for the deletion or revert your deletion?
Thank you
RPJ 20:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I have never attacked you personally - I have only questioned your opinions. Please do not play the game of accusing me of attacking you, which you know is not true. -- andreasegde 23:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I've adopted The Game (rapper) page to help fight vandalism. However, it is hopeless. This page needs protection pronto. I've listed it on the WP:RFPP page and nothing has happened, apparently there is a backlog. You can check through the page history and see how much times it get's vandalized in a day. Is there anyway you can protect this page? (See this is why I'd like to become an admin, there are so many backlogs and things that need to be checked by admins, but when you go through the RfA, they want to talk about edit summaries and edit counts. Anyway, I'm done venting.) Ramsquire 19:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I've reported the user who, on the JFK, Oswald, and Assassination theories pages continuously accuses us of being government agents because we have the audacity to ask for reliable sources. I know you have been hesitant to get involved in WP:PAIN procedures with him but I think you should add something since you are the focus of his rants more than I am. Ramsquire 23:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
What wasn't neutral in my changes to the CIndy Sheehan article? --—Preceding unsigned comment added by Durbinmj ( talk • contribs)
Courtesy notice: Lori Klausutis the article you created is up for deletion.-- Tbeatty 19:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, could you help me convert the references in the "Family" section of Cindy Sheehan that I've just added to footnotes? I can't figure it out. That's something complicated about the Wikipedia code that I think should be simplified. Badagnani 22:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Is it OK if I delete RPJ's attacks on JimWae and ourselves from the talk pages of the relevant articles, considering he's been blocked for them?
I think we need an RfC on RPJ's behavior. Basically, I've seen that he is continuing to misuse citations, conduct original research, violate NPOV, refuse to use reliable sources, refuse to assume good faith by calling editors "disinformationalists" and insinuating that I am a bigot. I've had enough of this. Since he has shown over the past year and through five blocks, that he does not understand what Wikipedia is, and is just trolling, we should seek third party comment. Ramsquire 17:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
It appears the IP address for a computer lab has been blocked do to your blocking of a user called "Madseason777". The user has been identified but cannot unblock her own account, which has caused a disruption to Wikipedia use in the lab. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Staley8 ( talk • contribs)
Bigfoot found... surely if anything's BJAODN material it's that. ~ ONUnicorn ( Talk / Contribs) 20:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Here it is if you want it:
In the southern reigion of Canada. Egg Hugger, the man who caught bigfoot, says that it was fairly easy. Egg says"It honestly wasn't that hard. I set up bigfoot traps all around the woods by my house and I would check them each of them about three times per day and I only have about 50 or 60 of them. I bought the traps from a Mexican who said he was selling bear traps in the back of his '67 Chevy real cheap. So I asked him if they could catch Bigfoot too and uhg... actually thats what they are really made for so I told him I would take 60. I look at each trap every day 3 times and I have been doing that for 45 year it's great!!!" Bigfoot was caught and Egg filmed it as he appreached the beast. Unfortunatally Egg died tring to help Bigfoot into the cage he had for him. Egg and is friends have een doing this for many years so they concider themselfs professionals. Bigfoot is now being help in a CIA facility for questioning but the chef of the CIA Ima Eurad says that he will not cooperate with them. Bigfoot has killed 94.77 people so far and can't be trusted. He waslast seen driving down I 55 in Illnois but he now could be anywhere in the southern reigon of New Hampshire. He was also seen in Detroit begging hobo's for coughy. Look out for him/her/it.( the .77 is found because he tore off a mans legs and arms and shaved his head.) STAY ALERT HE COULD BE IN YOUR BACKYARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enjoy :) Gamaliel 20:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Several IP addresses whose edits and writing style are consistent with those of User:Joehazelton have been editing Peter Roskam lately. They are: 207.67.146.62 ( talk · contribs), 207.67.146.232 ( talk · contribs), 207.67.146.146 ( talk · contribs), 207.67.146.166 ( talk · contribs), and 207.67.145.200 ( talk · contribs). I know that you have blocked some of them already, but are you willing to do a range block? NatusRoma | Talk 19:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Joe, this sort of this is exactly why you won't be unblocked. It is very simple, you can be unblocked when you demonstrate to me or another administrator that you can discuss issues without attacking other editors or making threats. Until that time, you will remain blocked. Gamaliel 18:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
ALL INFORMATION SHOWN HERE IS UNRELIABLE AND SHOULD BE NOT BE CONSIDERED AUTHORITATIVE AND MAY BE DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEALTH, WEALTH, REPUTATION AND LIBERTY.
joehazelton
207.28.144.2 continues to vandlize pages despite your warning [5]. Not one of this user's edits over the past six months appears to have been meritorious. I suggest indefinite blocking, duration to be fixed if and when user appeals. Pop Secret 23:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I was given a WP:NPA warning by Aaron 20:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC) on my talk page, because of a comment in an AfD discussion. I do not agree that my comment was a personal attack or that the warning was justified. Am I allowed to remove it and if so when? Is there any penalty if an editor is in the habit of placing a lot of warnings on the talk pages of editors who express opposing views in AfD's? Thanks! Edison 06:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel, the same user who opposed the last RfC has opened another one in hopes of continuing the debate on weasel words. I vowed not to participate but have made a couple comments. I thought you might want to take a look since you participated in the last one. AuburnPilot Talk 21:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Gamaliel, I sort of see the point you are making that the study is so diverse that to just say critics is misleading. But I think we can leave it with just critics since, although the persons contributing weren't all critics, their view that Fox has bias is a criticism, especially of a news operation. Think of it this way, I am not a video game critic, love them actually, but from time to time I'll participate on users survey's saying "X game sucks". So in that instance, it's ok to lump me in with critics. Ramsquire 21:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
After looking at the contributions of Cbuhl79 and Mrmiscellanious, I'm starting to think one is simply a sockpuppet of the other. Not only are they arguing the exact same point on the FNC talk page, look at the time frame of their edits:
06:33, 09 October 2006 Mrmiscellanious completely stops editing after commenting on FNC talk page
01:41, 10 October 2006 Cbuhl79 starts editing after 3 months of silence, just hours after Mrmiscellanious's last edit; first comment is on FNC talk page.
21:21, 28 October 2006 Cbuhl79 stops editing after ArbCom Request is filed on his behavior
02:54, 29 October 2006 Mrmiscellanious begins editing within hours of Cbuhl's last edit; is now arguing same points as Cbuhl
I'm not sure if this is enough for a sockpuppet report on WP:SSP, but I was curious to see what somebody else thought. -- AuburnPilot talk 07:17, 9 November 2006 ( UTC)
Is there something going on with this article I'm not aware of? THREE editors, using what is, on the surface, the most handwavingly bogus of rationales ("the name is not important"), are removing a name from the article. Inclusion of the name like this is a standard piece of information -- for verification and fact-checking, if nothing else -- yet it's being removed. Is there some backstory here? -- Calton | Talk 00:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I find it odd you lately have been appearing on his talk page to issue warnings and its starting to appear that you have an issue with him and possibly are stalking his edits, I will assume good faith and just take it as a mere alignment of stars that keeps leading you back there. Perhaps you should ask another person to look at your complaints you may have, your constant appearance may soon be taken in a negative light. Thank you. This comment does not need a reply. Just FYI. -- Nuclear Zer0 00:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. Please see my addition to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Living People Patrol. This appears to be a proposal, and it was treated as official policy. Edison 17:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I am a teacher at a high school using IP address 64.150.0.1 You have had to block us from editing because people at the school repeatedly vandalize sites. Today I found some vandalism from us that has survived for 5 months-- since May, 2006. It now has infected about.com and other sites which copy entries from Wikipedia. Here is the article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Quantum_mechanics&diff=prev&oldid=52505796
My question is: Is there any way to help clean this stuff up--while I am logged in from the same IP? (I couldn't post to this User Talk page because of the block, so I had to post this later, from home.)
The vandalism by 64.150.0.1 to "Quantum Mechanics" has not lasted 5 months--it got reverted Sept 24.
The article The Singing Senators does not seem to have any references. The group supposedly operated in 2000, but have no notability I can find. What is the procedure for proposing deletion? Start with a PROD, or somehow start a AfD? I have no experience with either. Or does it seem as important as other bands and singing groups with articles. There are lots of musical groups which get deleted which are probably more notable by any rational criterion. Edison 04:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking of setting up a project or guideline, that discusses how editors should edit articles dealing with conspiracies, allowing leeway since many conspiracies require speculation, but still conforming to Wiki policies of WP:NPOV, WP:V, and WP:RS. The reason of course is RPJ, who appears to now be forum shopping his POV pro-conspiracy edits into various articles, like j. Edgar Hoover and the CIA, in effect ruining good biographical and organizational articles. Any help or guidance, will be appreciated. Ramsquire 17:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel,
I recently started an entry for myself at the suggestion of a friend of mine. It looks like some people think that is vane and some people think that I am not worthy of a place on Wikipedia. I understand that it is not the white pages but I am curious about your thoughts because I thought I followed the right proceedure. I listed under my last name because there was only one listing (and after a recent trip to Poland where I learned it is a very common last name). Two of my ex-employees have gone in and tried to add to my page and although they did not say what I thought they would I thought it was interesting. I guess my question is, was I deleted because I am not well-known enough to support my vanity?
(As a non ego based explanation for my post: while my contributions are not blindingly stellar, I have owned a successful company for 10 years, I do have over 25 patents and I have won several international product design awards including one from business week.)
Please email me at aaron@evodesign.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaronsz ( talk • contribs)
I've posted a reply to your request for diffs over at Talk:Chuck Munson re: his continued reverts.
At base, I feel that Chuck is demonstrating total bad faith here -- he denies what was written (in a good faith, NPOV fashion), then when confronted with the evidence either goes around claiming persecution and just goes haywire reverting anything and everything that challenges the image he wants projected on Wikipedia.
Thank you for your patience in this matter, but a stern warning: be prepared to handle Chuck with asbestos mitts. -- Daniel 01:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Cbuhl79 has opened a Request for Arbitration about the Fox News Channel intro wording. Somehow he forgot to notify you. I am requesting you visit the RfA and add your $0.02. Current RfA Page. Personally, I can't believe how far he's taking this, especially since he is the only objector... anyway, thanks! / Blaxthos 20:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I did not intend to leave Gamaliel off the notice of the RfA. I did not consider Gamaliel a principal disputant, because his last comment was before the first RfC was closed, and since much of my RfA was specifically not concerning Gamaliel. For some reason, I also forgot Gamaliel when I earlier asked Isarig and Tbeatty to comment on the discussion, but I did mean to include Gamaliel as an "Other editor who has been involved". Cbuhl79 03:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
141.154.200.178 continues to insert the following language into the introduction. I've explained through edit summaries, and on the anon talk page, what WP:BLP requires when asserting that position. User has failed to listen and wishes to edit war over it. Should I wait for 3RR or is there a process for blocking a user who fails to observe WP:BLP?. Ramsquire 22:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there; I came here to chide you for adding {{ test}} to an article rather than {{ subst:test}}. But as an admin you know that, so I won't. Love the troll photo.-- Anthony.bradbury 13:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there,
How do I go about getting my updates approved? I appreciate that I'm new, so I could be adding anything. How do I get some credit?
P.s. I like the "Funny things said about me" section! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BZH56 ( talk • contribs)
I don't remember making that edit... I don't even think I have ever been on to that page... I don't know what happened. =( Change it back to the way it was before "I" edited it. CustardToast 02:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry that this thing won't die -- after the ArbCom rejected cbuhl's request and I asked him to let it die now, he went and slapped a WP:NPA template on my userspace and talkspace! Final straw for me -- I have called for an RfArb regarding his behavior. I listed you as a witness, and I would sincerely appreciate you relaying your experiences and thoughts to the ArbCom. Sorry this has turned into such a dismal situation. Hopefully our next interaction will be under more pleasant circumstances! Thanks. / Blaxthos 18:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
After some consideration, I've decided to take a very firm position regarding the situation with Cbuhl79. I considered stuff like "be the bigger man" and "not a big deal", "let it slide", etc... but it occured to me that in order to preserve the value and absolute functionality of the wiki system, 'somebody has to stop those who would abuse the project or the editors who make good faith efforts to improve it. It is ironic (or perhaps apropos) that my career goal is to become a U.S. Attorney -- though I'm very aware of avoiding WP:LAWYER. I realize that everyone's time is best spent actually improving wikipedia's content, but I'm requesting that you review (and contribute, if appropriate) to my workspace for the pending case (which I believe will be accepted). You can find the workspace at USER:Blaxthos/RfARB_Cbuhl79. Any relevant contributions, collaboration, or advice is absoultely welcome and appreciated. Thanks! / Blaxthos 21:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
One ArbCom member has voted to reject, and his reasoning "let this dispute die" seems to be influenced by Cbuhl79's constant rambling about content. The ArbCom needs to realize that i'm calling his behavior into question. Without some sort of censure, this guy is going to (1) damage the credibility of wikipedia; and (2) frustrate other editors to the point that they probably will not wish to continue working on whatever articles he's hawking. It seems absolutely inconceivable to me that he can get away with all this. This is my first real experience with any kind of disciplinary actions on wikipedia... do you have any advice or guidance? I now have an advocate to assist with prosecuting the case, assuming it gets accepted. / Blaxthos 11:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, trust me, I know about real life. If wikipedia was a paying gig it would be much easier to justify making more time. ;-) As far as the RfARB, I can see how the case would appear unnecessary on a cursory glance. It is my hope that the ArbCom will do a little more digging and understand the depth of the incident (and likelihood for future abuses, should it not be addressed). The advocate has suggested that the failure to request mediation may be the silver bullet, however I explained that mediation is just another ineffective step when one party is not acting in good faith. We'll see what happens! Thanks again! / Blaxthos 01:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Brian Hodges and I am a freelance writer researching an article about Wikipedia. As part of the article I am interviewing people who contribute to the site, and I would also like to intereview an Administrator or two as well. So that's where you come in. If you're interested in participating, please contact me at brianrhodges@gmail.com.
Thanks,
Brian
68.39.158.205 23:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
John F. Kennedy assassination revert was an accident. Just too much cleaning of User:64.88.7.112 vandalisms: [6]
Would you fix them up, please... Andrzej P. Wozniak 18:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
As I didn't have a way to ask you this question via email or IM, I will ask it here. I have read the Roskam Discussion page with stupified wonder at how you managed to maintain your cool with User: Joehazelton. I truly wish I had your level of patience and calmness, and wonder how to develop that quality better. I might have jettisoned him after the third occurence as someone with issues unresolvable outside of intense therapy.
Another question, it seems inappropriate for the commentary heading and dialogue resulting in the diatribe on the Peter Roskam page entitled 'Looking at the editing Histories of Goethena/Propol.' As it seemed to be essentially a ranting edit war, its continued presence within the discussion area is rather off-putting. It certainly gave me pause before contributing; if that sort of personal attack (mostly by the aformentioned Joehazelton) awaited edits made in good faith, why bother at all?
I can see that that the editor is no longer a member of the community (or is he? He did have multiple dopplegånger accounts...duh duh duhhhh!), so why are we keeping his flame wars on the page? They serve no purpose other than to illustrate how not to respond to edits. Maybe we can put that sad chapter behind us, archive it, and move on.
Again, you have my respect (and a wee bit of awe) for your patience and reserve in handling the matter. Good on ya! Arcayne 08:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I just added this to RPJ's talk page. Am I going too far? If not, any support will be appreciated. I've had enough of this. Ramsquire 00:34, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I would like to request that the articles Peter_Roskam and Tammy_Duckworth be protected. I would ask that other articles regarding political candidates currently running for office be protected, but this might be something addressed on a larger scale through policy change inthe future. Considering the potential for unscupulous persons looking for an 11th hour propoganda tool or muzzle might alter, vandalize or add material from IP addresses and other ill-meaning users. The sharp rise in vandalism in these two pages makes it clear that his pattern will only increase this last week before the election. Arcayne 06:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel, as in Rabban Gamaliel? Darkyoshi 22:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough. I was simply concerned. Maybe my worry is for naught. (See> I used the word naught in a modern sentence. I is edumikated!) Arcayne 01:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I've initiated the RfC on RPJ. I hope I did it correctly. Feel free to make any comments. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 01:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
T Gholson ( talk · contribs), without comment. JBKramer 15:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
[8] — goethean ॐ 20:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The vietnam campaign theme issue was there for almost 6 months, backed up w/proper sources and you suddenly decide it's not neutral?? -- Bairdso66 22:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Apparantly the RfC has not worked and the user will continue to downgrade articles, and will not relent. I think we need to go to mediation. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 17:28, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Lately you have been appearing in articles and deleting information that is well referenced to reliable sources. When you erase such valuable information from the articles you will type in "pov pushing" or simply "rv pov."
If I am correct and this is the Wikipedia policy to include all significant points of view (pov), what does it mean when you write "pov pushing" or simply "pov" when you delete information?
Dunno if this is an AWB problem or what, but you just added Category:Living people and Category:Year of birth unknown to the article, and Harrington is dead and his birthyear is in the article. I've fixed it, but thought you might want to know in case something is off with AWB. Gamaliel 00:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello Gamaliel. You recently gave direction/encouragement to me about citations on the Prechter bio. That page could use your attention once again. An editor has placed text in the lead section and cited it as a quotation from the Wall Street Journal; I checked, and the WSJ did run a piece on Prechter on the date in the citation. Problem is, the "quote" now on Prechter's bio is not in the WSJ article, a copy of which I have before me. The real article was basically negative, and what this editor did was write a summary that's more negative still. Bottom line, he put his words in the mouth of the WSJ. Unfortunately, this is not a newbie mistake to be gently corrected. I'm in an editing dispute with this editor regarding a different page, which is now in mediation. This editor had not made contributions to Prechter's bio before our dispute, and this latest "contribution" fits an obvious pattern. As I understand Wikipedia guidelines, NPOV and the accuracy of bios of living persons is a serious matter, thus my comment here. I'm open to any thoughts or guidance you have, thanks. Rgfolsom 17:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Understood, thanks. Rgfolsom 18:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I tried your advice (as you'll see on the talk page), but if you look on the Prechter bio you'll also see that I didn't get very far. I acknowledge that my other dispute may cloud my judgement, but think it's painfully clear that what this editor is doing to Prechter's bio goes beyond POV and is close to slander. It's everything that Wikipedia's policy talks about in avoiding biased or malicious content. Please give me your evaluation.
Rgfolsom 20:53, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate your effort to keep the peace -- last I replied to your similar comment on Talk:Robert Prechter, I trust you'll be able to reply to what I said. Thank you. Rgfolsom 19:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey. When you're undeleting pages like Cornell University will 3000 edits, how do you have all the checkboxes checked without having to go down the list and press the mouse button three thousand times? Thx. - crz crztalk 18:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
With the growing consensus on the RfC being that I should forego the mediation process and take this case to ArbCom now, I think I may pull back the Cabal request and take it ArbCom. I would like this situation handled as soon as possible, but I also don't want to have this thing kicked out because I didn't first seek mediation. Ramsquire (throw me a line)
Hi there. I have reverted this edit you made, adding a speedy deletion tag with a reason of "pdf file". May I ask why you added this, seeing as being a PDF is not a valid criteria for speedy deletion? -- TheParanoidOne 23:11, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Extra-special thanks for having nominated me in the first place!
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According to this talk page (and you personal log) on 18:50, 15 November 2006 you have deleted article to clean up the mess. Do you mind restoring it? 'cause to my opinion we have seen smth. more appropriate than what is there now. -- 132.73.80.117 18:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel, I placed a warning tag on getaway ( talk · contribs)'s talk page for stating "instead of a series of election-inspiried charges by overzealous Democrats out to completely destroy a black man that dares to get off of the Democratic Plantation???" In which he was in clear violation of the policy. I've noticed that he has changed the text of two of my warnings on his talk page (see [9] and [10].) Is he allowed to alter warning tags like that - isn't that considered vandalism in itself? I'm not sure. -- Strothra 22:36, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I am abusive because I express disagreement with you? I did not attack your personally; nor did I use ugly language. You did not address anything what I wrote, so you turn the matter to something else: me.
You disagree with me, so you use your power to silence me. OMG!
You seem like a smart person, I urge you to reconsider, and examine what I say. Don't make Wikipedia a tyranny.
Thanks.
Jon White, NYC
[11] [12] [13] [14] — goethean ॐ 22:19, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 12:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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Randroide 19:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC) 66.114.0.3. You blocked him/her one month ago.
Multiple (check complete history) vandalism at [15].
Good pictures in your page. Cheers.
Another admin is trying to keep negitive sorced fact off the page because they do not view it as signifigent. Would you please look at the talk page and let me know what you think. This is the same article that someone deleted everything and put up the congressmans bio. Thanks :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.8.171.61 ( talk • contribs)
Neither you nor Cryptic have responded to my concerns. Am I wrong to take a lack of responce as the go ahead to place to newly sorced facts back into the article?
Why did you remove this template? Using explicit placement of the TOC makes the text flow correctly, and without it there is a huge empty space left. -- Dgies 19:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel - I am trying to load information about Badcock similar to any other company profile on Wikipedia. I work for the coporation and am unsure what information I am posting that is not allowed. Please give me some direction so that the information we post about the corporation will stay posted. Badcock Home Furniture .... user name Badcockandmore ... 21:10, 29 November 2006
Are you an admin? Someone has vandalised my page [16]. Will you tell him/her to stop please? Wiki eZach| talk 22:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I got this message from you:
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Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Gamaliel 19:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Gdo01 19:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
What are you talking about? I certainly wasn't trying to vandalize anything. I don't even know what page you believe I vandalized.
I've been replacing fair use book covers with free ones when possible; see the link in my sig. Image:Janeeyrepenguin.jpg is now orphaned; just wanted to give you a heads up. Chick Bowen ( book cover project) 05:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
While reading an interesting article about early console gaming, I ran across an article about Video game crash of 1983. Very interesting, but seemed to be a lot of conjecture and content analysis. I looked on the talk page and found a bunch of discussion about how the article was unsourced, sometimes contradictory, and full of original research. I posted a note on the talk page about my concerns, and suggested it would need a lot of work to be brought within spec. To put a sense of urgency, I noted that such noncompliance is criteria for deletion. Several contributors to the video game project have become hell bent on attacking my credibility and my "ignorance" of the subject matter (as opposed to answering what I believe are valid concerns). I'm not sure how to proceed -- any advice? You can find the reading here. If you read the whole talk page, it reads like a group effort in conducting said OR. / Blaxthos 21:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I received this today from RPJ's sidekick. I took it as a blatant attempt to bait me into something. So I dangled the line, the and got this as a response, which sort of proved my original thesis. I'm thinking of adding it to the Workshop page of the Arbitration, but wanted a second or third opinion before doing so. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 02:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel, would you take a look at Cindy Sheehan and suggest what can be done to clean up this mess? Thanks! Pgc512 13:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I know you were just doing routine vandal patrol. Still, I want to offer a humble and appreciative thank you. You and other vandal patrol members keep me and others contributors to WIKI from getting discouraged and giving up. Thank you so very much. TonyCrew 22:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
You are one of several people who was instrumental in cleaning up my List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry page. This page was the first page I created and still remains the page that I have made the most edits to on wikipedia (95 edits). Thank you for your assistance. Since this page received so much more cleanup assistance than most of my other pages I am wondering if it was a focus article of a WikiProject Group. Do you know of any such designation? It would be helpful because I will be self nominating for admin tomorrow or Tuesday. Please reply at my userpage with any info you may have. TonyTheTiger 17:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I do not want to get in the middle of that humongous discussion about Robeson. I do think this information could be added to the article. Wales had a "Paul Robeson Civil Rights Day" on 21 October 2006. According to BBC, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6072908.stm, it was to mark the 30th anniversary of Robeson's death -- which was January 23, 1976. (I think it's more likely that it was to mark the 40th anniversary of the Aberfan disaster.) Anyway, it was an all-day event, http://www.cynefinywerin.org.uk/index.php?docid=243, including a concert that evening. What i can't figure out is if this is an annual civil rights day or if it was a one-time reaction to the civil rights changes in the U.K.
Thanks for weighing in on the Savage article. I have to admit, defending Savage leaves a bad taste in my mouth...(or should I say keyboard...oh well I never was good with metaphors)...but the line has to be drawn somewhere and I think WP:BLP is good ground to stand on.-- WilliamThweatt 05:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Our dear friend, EnglishEfternamn, has decided to revert my "vandalism" again. As a new user, I'm a little unsure of how to go about fixing this problem. I reverted his revert, but of course that is only a temporary solution. Any suggestions for a newbie? Mbc362 04:37, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.
For the Arbitration Committee -- Srikeit 05:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
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Hi, I just had a quick question that i need to be answered. Why on Aug 11, 2006 did you erase a pharagraph describing how William Greer killed JFk on Nov.22 1963. This is an important peice of evidence in showing how the United States government is controlled totally by a world wide force able to conceal major events in history and keeping the human race ignorant to the problems that face earth today. I am in no way trying to personaly attack you or anyhing like that, I am just wondering if you can explaine why you did this? Thanks so much.
Gamaliel, may the new year bring you peace, happiness, love, and hope for all things you wish for.
≈ jossi ≈
(talk) 17:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! may this match your LJ wishes!!!
Das Nerd 07:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
You have contributed as an editor to the List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry. It is undergoing an overhaul according to the recent peer review that generated the following feedback. In addition to the changes there, it is undergoing stylistic changes that prevail at lists that have been selected as featured lists. Conversion to wikitable format began with 2002 today because most articles that reach featured list status are in this format. Feel free to convert additional years, add more columns, or add further details. Hopefully many of the editors who have helped edit this page to its pre review state will help improve it to a featured list quality level. I may not return to make further edits until next week. TonyTheTiger 22:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel,
A fellow African-American user recently expressed some discomfort with the image on this talk page; basically, it left him confused and concerned that you might be... a "not very nice" person, to euphemize. I reassured him that you were a great guy, and that you only intended to deride wiki-trolls (and, really, who doesn't love deriding trolls? :) Still, I thought you might want to know, in case you could think of a way to modify the image or the caption to make your point even more clear. Best wishes, Xoloz 22:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Rather than reverting his talk page, why can't you look into the allegations of abuse posted by that person. As you can see, I am not alone in thinking he has abused his privileges as an editor, you should also look at the same poster, who spoke to LarryV, another adminstrator. ForrestLane42 18:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
I did not realized that this user was banned. The banned user was making light of some accurate insights into goethean's editing style which I see as tyrannical at times. Goethean and I have been in a long protracted edit war. I will admit that I have allowed him to bait me on occassions, but I think if you take the time to look at goethean, you will surely find abusive, arrogant attitude towards me and fellow editors. ForrestLane42 20:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
That's why I am coming to you, LarryV has not responded. With goethean its impossible to set up a RFC because he has powerful friends as administrators. I honestly am not sophicated in Wikipedia language in bring up RFC, its all greek to me. ForrestLane42 21:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
I guess goethean, can have his way, like I said I am not wikipedia-savvy to begin with, just been abused and thrown around too much anyway, just come to the conclusion that wikipedia does not abode well for newcomers ForrestLane42 22:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
Well the link you sent says the board is gone....I have request help to you, to LarryV, I left a message on some RTC board, nothing....as I said there are so many wikipedia concepts to learn how to write to get noticed...so the stack is historically against the newcomer ForrestLane42 00:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
How was my last change vandalism? It is really what someone said online and it did not defame the subject of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.234.134 ( talk • contribs)
I noticed that you caught Spnst3's work pretty quickly. After seeing the chop job done on one of my contributions, I checked the rest of this user's work, and found you were already there a week ahead of me.
It's great to know that good people like you are helping keep this site healthy! (Long Live Librarians!!! :^) - KellyLogan 20:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting Molly Ivins! treyjp 00:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Again, I will bring this to your attention, since you are an adminstrator, can you do something protect this page, mediate a continuingly hostile page and I will not say that I am an angel in all this because I let others goat me at times. Here is the part of the talk page for Ken Wilber as an example of a hostile edit war/reverting. not to mention the fact that I have a hunch to believe gadrane is a sockpupet of goethean but thats besides the point. Here is: {long excerpt of Talk:Ken_Wilber#Wilber.27s_work_unverifiable.3F removed} ForrestLane42
First off, how can it be reasonable request for citation - when in the article it already establishes the fact that his work is ignored by academia, by the scientific community, anyone who knows anything about science can easily see that Wilber's work has nothing in come with the scientific method. And if its a reasonable request, then my counterrequest that he proves his claim that Wilber's work is scientifically sound, can be verified by traditional scientific methods, is equally what he is required to do. By the way the Meditation committee, asked for request for mediation, are u in charge of this? ForrestLane42 00:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
I would love to mediation committee but I don't think I can get a fair hearing. As for what you said about yes, u would think its easy to cite the sentence above as citing but they dont want that. So if anyone must insert a claim must provide a source, so they should be required to cite a source as to why it should be there, not to tag "unsubsantiated claims". ForrestLane42 00:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
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Hello, welcome to my talk page. To leave a new message, click here. Please try to keep it relatively organized by signing your posts, posting new topics on the bottom of the page, making relevant headings about your topic and using subheadings, not new headings, for replies. I will almost always reply on this page to messages. I reserve the right to make minor changes of formatting (headings, bolding, etc.) but not content in order to preserve the readablilty of this page. I will delete without comment rude and/or insulting comments, trolling, threats, comments from people with a history of insults and incivility, and comments posted to the top of this page. Also, I'm much more informal than this disclaimer implies. Thank you. Rock on.
FYI I wonder if those comments could be removed as personal attacks. — goethean ॐ 14:35, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for locking the page, now we have a still target to discuss. I will, in the next few days go line by line and discuss this page. I am willing to be very nice and hope the other editors "BE NICE" too.
I have been in contact with User:Jahiegel to help me in this. Thank you Joehazelton 20:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm asking for an Rfc [1] on the Clay Shaw page regarding the Max Holland article. Please comment. Ramsquire 17:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
could you take a look at the recent edits of Jojouka.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_master_musicians_of_Jajouka
I have a couple of users who feel that the commercial link they placed on several different articles is ethical and should not have been removed. Thanks, and have a great weekend. Rsm99833 20:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Please note my edit history. They're placing the link on other pages as well. Thanks again. Rsm99833 20:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Will you please allow a registered Wikipedia user "Jajouka" to edit this mess!!!! Wikipedia has much incorrect information in its various pages on Joujouka, Master Musicians of Joujouka and The Master Musicians of Joujouka, all unfortunately redirected from Jajouka and Master Musicians of Jajouka. This is a serious error on the part of the editors who feel that users who correct incorrect statements about this group are perpetuating.
The user Jajouka just tried to add the following but it was not allowed:
Brian Jones (co-founder of the The Rolling Stones) recorded the Joujoukan musicians in 1968. This recording was released in 1971 as Brian Jones Presents The Pipes Of Pan At Joujouka. It fell out-of-print and became a collector's item before being reissued on compact disc in 1997 with a photograph of Bachir Attar, who was only five at the time of the recording, replacing Hamri's original cover painting of Brian Jones and the musicians in Joujouka. Hamri, who was never a musician, placed his name on the album as "composer" of Bachir Attar's father's music; he collected the money from album Brian Jones Presents the Pipes of Pan at Joujouka, and kept the money for himself. Hamri was then fired by the leader of the musicians at the time, Hadj el Abdesalam el-Attar, Bachir Attar's father. To prevent problems with visual copyright when the album was reissued in 1994, the record company suggested that the album be produced using a different cover.
Mick Jagger described Bachir Attar and The Master Musicians of Jajouka when he recorded with Bachir and the Jajouka musicians in 1989 as One of the most musically inspiring groups still left on the planet.
Please unblock Gammers ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). That is just his last name. Fred Bauder 21:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but I'm on the road (going to Las Vegas) and cannot follow proper protocol. Could you make a call or send this one up for consideration as if it belongs here or not-
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=6_Degrees_from_Truth&diff=prev&oldid=67578886
Again, sorry for any inconveniences. Have a good weekend.
Rsm99833 07:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
When you take it upon yourself to undo the work of two other editors who negotiated and compromised to include something that is based in reality, and not wikiality, then yes, I call that vandalism. The fact is that conservative bloggers DO use that alternate definition all the time. If you go to Conservative Underground and ask what swiftboating means, you will get that answer repeatedly. EECEE felt that blogs were not a reliable source, so I came up with those other three sources. He picked the t-shirt one to use. I'm not going to continue an edit war, but you have your head stuck up a dark hole if you refuse to believe that "swiftboating" means something other than the definition that you approve of. Crockspot 20:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
16:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Looking at the JFK assassination page, I think it is time to do one. But I don't know how. Ramsquire 22:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
How did you reach your decision? RPJ 23:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
It's been almost a year. Can you unprotect these now? I promise, I will behave 99% of the time. 67.18.109.218 01:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
You've been approved to use VandalSniper. Please let me know if you have any problems getting it working. -- Chris (talk) 03:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
For reverting my user talk page after Tchadienne's edit. I think he has problems and may need help. I doubt that editing Wikipedia is good for him just now. Anyway, thanks for your help. -- Guinnog 11:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
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Hi. Thanks for your edits. I edited the Jim Garrison article, including putting back some of the material you removed. The reason was that this version left almost no information at all about the Clay Shaw/Kennedy assasination case, which certainly is what Garrison is most famous for. Making the article more factual and more in line with NPOV is welcome. I encourage you to explain what the specific problems are with material you remove. I think the article needs more info on the famous case. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 20:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Refering to John Trumbull (poet). Added more links/pages off the 1911 text. Sidetracked by researching colonial american newspapers. My head is spinning. :) Electrawn 20:43, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello. At the Peter Roskam page there were several disputes, which lead to you protecting the page. I have no problem with that; however, there is an edit that I was hoping you could make on my behalf. I've posted my propsed addition at Talk:Peter Roskam / [2]. In my opinion there should be a discussion of the O'Hare Airport issue. I appreciate your help. Propol 02:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I know we have not agreed (although we have agreed once) but I am asking you for help. SBHarris is going over the top and definitely needs someone in a position like yourself to have a word with him. His answers to simple qustions are always long, lacking in paragraphs, have POVs, and worst of all, are extremely insulting. I know it has been said that a third party, or deceased, is "nuts", but attacking other editors so personally is attrocious. I think you may empathise with me on this one... Thanks. andreasegde 13:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Figured this was not relevant, so I moved it here, if you mind, you can revert:
Grand, we have the conservative POV warrior circuit here voting now, what I called the neo-conservative cabal before. User:Gamaliel, User:CJK, User:TDC, User:MONDO were is User:172?
Travb (
talk) 22:35, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, Gamaliel, as a Charter Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (Member No. 31) here's the info: annual membership fee: $50000. For those leaving the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, however, the membership fee is waived as long as you turn over your user name and password to the VLWC's computers. Upon receipt of the fee or information, you'll get your hat, tee-shirt, and complete Ann Coulter library.
PainMan 13:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I am going to add citations to the hannity page, there has been alot of vandalism, and im trying to fix the page. It would be great if you would remove your post from my talk page so I can finish this stuff. -- Zonerocks 21:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I made a slight NPOV adjustment to the blatantly POV edit that you reverted. I suggest you check the "Alleged debunking of SBVT assertions" section of the article's discussion page to understand where I am coming from. Related to this syndrome, I will remind you that John Kerry had a recollection seared.. SEARED.. into his memory, of being sent to Cambodia by Richard Nixon, at a time when Nixon was not even President yet. Cherry-picking minor discrepancies in the 35 year old recollections of decorated combat vets does nothing to discredit their core assertions. Crockspot 17:08, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Your revert of User:Tregoweth on this article reinserted poorly linked (external links instead of wikilinks) and copyrighted material (a cut and paste job from the Fox News website) originally inserted by User:Zonerocks. I'm sure this was an innocent mistake, but please be more careful when you dive into an edit war. Gamaliel 16:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
No, our contribution is not a press release. Everything we wrote was a verifiable fact. Health is a major part of USF now. The fact that there is no mention of it on the page, was a glaring ommision, that makes the article, dated, and inacurate. I am sorry that our hard work and research offended you.
Ken DeRoche & Edward Saint-Ivan
9-19-06 11:47pm EST I made some Grammatical error corrections to the Health article. Right after I resubmitted the cleaned up version, someone named Michael halterman deleted the entire article. Do you believe that was appripriate. I have since resubmitted. This type of behavour does not seem to foster much in the way of community. How would this clown like it if I arbitrarily deleted every article he has submitted. Shame on him. I think I have wasted enough time with this supposed "Encyclopedia"
Ken
Hi Gamaliel. I wanted to revisit the alternate definition of Swiftboating with you. We butted heads a while back over the use of t-shirts being sold at Cafe Press as a source. You came down pretty hard on me over it. I notice that the Fitzmas article also uses t-shirts from Cafe Press to source the definition and usage of THAT term. No one seems to have an issue with it. Since this has now been brought to your attention, I'm sure that if I add that alternate definition with the source back into the article, you will either not have a problem with it, or you will have a problem with both articles. A good natured test of your neutrality, if you will. Crockspot 21:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I am wondering if there will be any changes allowed at the Roskam page?
In the mean time, I would like you, since you locked the article, to add a tag to the page indicating that there is an on going NPOV dispute about this article. Let it be known that I am disputing the NPOV of the Roskam article.
Considering some of the issues I have pointed out at the [ Roskam talk pages], a {{POV}} tag placed on top of the Peter Roskam page would be most appropriate. The Peter Roskam article, as it sits, has to many sections, which any reasonable person could call in the question, the relevancy, accuracy and as well as the lack of poor or no citations for the pov assertions many of sections in that article make. The Roskam article appears, as I have read them, not to conform to the Wikipdia standards for living persons; is not encyclopedic in it's tone, and many of the assertions made in the article have flawed logic backing them. Until this NPOV Dispute is resolved, Please place the POV tag on this article.
Thanks Joehazelton 16:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Sorry that I did it again. I will slap myself silly until I stop it... andreasegde 19:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey there Gamaliel, I noticed that you voted for the Johnny Lee Clary article and I was wondering that you would be willing to help with an article or perhaps help with getting it out of its deletion tag. Any help would be appreciated. I have drafted it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Potters_house/Johnny_Lee_Clary Nick. Potters house 06:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Here we are again. Since you are an admin, I assume that you are familiar with WP:BLP. I suggest you refamiliarize yourself to be safe. Prostitution is a crime. Calling a living person a criminal on Wikipedia without high quality sources is not allowed. None of the sources provided give any proof that Gannon is indeed a prostitute. They are merely gossip, allegation, and political punditry. Gannon has never been arrested, charged, nor convicted of prostitution, nor has he made a public admission that he is a prostitute. I see no solid evidence that he ever advertised as a prostitute, only unsourced allegations made in articlea. These are not the "high quality" sources that are required by Wikipedia when dealing with living persons. When in doubt, always defer toward privacy of the individual. The policy is very clear. I think you are way off base in your position on this subject. If I have to, I will pursue this issue to the Board of Trustees if necessary, and I am positive that they will agree with me on this one. I have also asked for clarification on whether or not negative info has to be sourced at each instance, or if following a link to another article to find sources is "good enough". Crockspot 14:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC) Forgot to mention, I am reapplying the noncompliant tag. Please do not remove it until this issue is hashed out fully. As you know, removing maint. tags is considered vandalism. Crockspot 14:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
(Moving back to left margin) I don't believe you an threaten or accuse someone and then demand that they address whatever you feel like addressing and pretend you never threatened them or accused them of anything. But if it will end this silly back and forth, fine. The information on Gannon was widely reported in multiple news outlets. He openly advertised his services on multiple websites. We have the testimony of the person he hired to put up these sites. This is pretty open and shut. Gamaliel 18:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I would like to know what in my addition to the William Greer article constituted opinion and conjecture. Very little is known about William Greer, and the article is marked as a stub. What I had added was referenced and supported by fact, to any who care to look. What service do you think you are performing, as an "admin", other than censorship? Readers, I guess, are not allowed to consider the possibility that Greer fired the fatal shot into Kennedy's head, being content with the fact that he appeared in some family photos in 1962. Who do you work for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Laubin ( talk • contribs)
Biographies of Living Persons WP:BLP requires a higher wikipedia standard since the Siegenthaler Controversy in December 2005. Articles like these involve WP:LIBEL and WP:NPOV It has been 6 months, and wikipedia still has hundreds of potentially libelious articles.
Many editors and even administrators are generally unaware of potential defamation either direct or via WP:NPOV. To help protect wikipedia, I feel a large working group of historians, lawyers, journalists, administrators and everyday editors is needed to rapidly enforce policies.
I would like to invite you to join and particpate in a new working group, tenatively named Wikipedia:Libel-Protection Unit, a group devoted to WP:BLP, WP:LIBEL and WP:NPOV and active enforcement. From your experience and/or writings on talk pages, I look forward to seeing you there. Electrawn 16:45, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I reversed your deletions (please excuse if impolite) because of some information on Dr. Hart:
He is not a member of the American Physical Society, the American Astronomical Society, or the American Geophysical Union. That means he can't even present a paper at a meeting of one of those societies unless he gets a member to endorse it.
This site has a free search service for paper, abstracts, and the like:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/ads_abstracts.html
I searched and found almost nothing.
There is a review by Bruce Jakosky in Icarus, Vol. 127, pp. 264-265 of the second edition of his book,
Extraterrestrials, Where Are They? 2nd ed. B. Zuckerman and M. H. Hart (Eds.). Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, 1995. 239 pp., $39.95 hardback, $19.95 paperback
It turns out to be just a compendium of essays! According to Jakosky, the last chapter (the only one written by Hart himself) is unchanged from 1982, which Jakosky finds "distressing." The "editors do disservice to the community" by publishing out-of-date work, he says (Hart is one of the editors).
Zuckerman is well respected.
So if you like Mr. Hart you could add mention of the other book (on extraterrestrials). I also looked at the Montgomery Community College website and among the staff found no "professor". I e-mailed them to ask if they used titles like that but they have made no reply. It is possible that the faculty are "instructors". Not to stand on ceremony, but just to avoid aggrandizement of a guy who wants to partition the U.S. along "ethnic" lines. Reminds me of Bantustans. Carrionluggage 05:00, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
for the help. 132.241.246.111 21:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
OK knuckles duly rapped and noted. IMHO User talk:132.241.246.111 is adding contentious material and in some cases NPOV material as he has done previously. note taken, and I will ignore all edits,however inflammatory, from this user. Cheers Khukri ( talk . contribs) 22:03, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
I have no problem being called a vandal when I overstep my bounds but it's inflammatory to threaten to ban a person for calling the Unabomber a serial killer. 132.241.246.111 22:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Madge_Oberholtzer&action=history
I don't know everything about wikipedia but I know trying to intimidate editors is not allowed and that's what 75.13.99.82 does. 132.241.246.111 22:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
He's got a rotating server. The best way to get him to appear is to revert the article on Madge Oberholtzer. 132.241.246.111 22:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Note the edits of 132.241.246.111 to that very page:
Now, look at these edits by 132.241.246.111:
These are just some of the more blatant examples of vandalism by 132.241.246.111.
In reply to your
I'll tell you: Please don't allow yourself to be played by a vandal who keeps shopping his complaints around, seeking an administrator who is both gullible and precipitous. (You do not appear to be the latter.) — 12.72.69.26 01:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
The preeceding stalker troll is likely the same guy I was telling you about.
He too is on a rotating server making it difficult to quantify his vandalism.
yes I listed him as a sock puppet because he is one and I was tired of dealing with him.
132.241.246.111 03:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Now
My vandalism, BTW, quantifies at 0. — 12.72.69.26 03:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello Gamaliel,
Regarding the death of Chris Kennedy, my source for this information is the bands manager with whom I am acquanted. The incident happened early this morning.
I would imagine the information could be confirmed with local authorities, though I don't know which town in particular responded to the scene. I do no know that he was off the coast of Cape Cod at the time.
Chris Kennedy is in fact a stage name. At this time I don't want to release his actual name because of privacy issues.
If/when I found out more detail, I will let you know.
Thanks, Mike
Amazing that got through. I figured the Kerry article was pretty closely watched. Anyway, it seems like the thing to do is grab the version of that section from a while back, from before the vandalism, and replace it entirely. I'm leaving town for a couple days in just a minute, so I can't have a closer look now. Derex 21:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
All right, I cooled down a bit. You are too loose with that "bizarre" epithet. Let us try to resolve this peacefully. This is what I posted on "Template_talk:Blp#Image_change" page:
Please, change this "Two Girls" abomination to anything: Pioneer plaque, fine, though I think for a Biography Project it would be better to use an image of an old, leather-bound book with some press guilding and some silhouette that would offend no one: Beethoven's, Newton's, Aristotle's, you name it. I find "Two Girls" image so offensive that I am ready to blow the top and start a vandal war over it, and that's not really in my character. The problem is, this image is a racially motivated imposition of certain ideology that I despise. Human beings should be regarded strictly on their individual merits, without classifying them by race. Race-based political correctness is a racism, painful to anybody who has been persecuted on the basis of their ethnicity -- inverted racism, granted, but still a racism. Like those questions about your race in government's questionnaires. If they are skin-color blind, why do they care what my race is? The same with this "Two Girls" photograph. It is a real torture to me, to see it on the talk page dedicated to my favorite writer. Please, remove it ASAP!
You are too loose with that "bizarre" epithet. Insulting people will lead to nothing constructive for Wikipedia. I would appreciate any help in the speediest possible resolution of this matter. Please note that I am not the first one who has been revolted by this photo. Arvin Sloane 07:52, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Jack Vance is for talking about the Jack Vance article, not for your rants. Please keep your comments on topic. You can rant about the template on the template talk page. Gamaliel 02:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Arvin, you have been insulting and offensive, you have vandalised and you have made threats, and you have done more than enough to deserve blocking or banning. Wikipedia is not your sandbox or message board or a free speech zone. I'll let you have your little rant space for the time being, and when your conversation with Renesis13 is concluded, it will be archived. You will refrain from insulting individual Wikipedians or Wikipedians in general. You will refrain from using the article talk page for offtopic rants. You will refrain from making any threats or any other trollish behavior. If you persist in this behavior, you and your sockpuppets will be blocked. If you persist in evading those blocks, a report of your behavior will be made to your service provider. I hope it does not come to that. This will, I hope, be our last conversation. Gamaliel 04:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were the one to remove the discussion. I thought Arvin Sloane had. However, I am not discussing the template, and I do not see how the discussion is not related to the Jack Vance article. I want a legitimate answer -- it is destructive to Wikipedia to have little corners of the article space like this that are owned by a few people exhibiting troll-like behavior. If he wants a place that projects, templates, and Wikipedia work do not apply, he needs his own site. I want to know why Wikipedia is so important and yet so disgusting. -- Renesis13 02:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
It's the first time when someone removes my contribution from a discussion. May I ask, what is your historical education to do such thing? I hope you have written a number of books about the Sviet Union? If not - would you be so kind to revert the discussion to the state before your action?
Paul Robeson has been used by Soviet propaganda and obtained Stalin's prize. It's a shame. Xx236 07:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Stop vandalism Xx236 14:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel. I was wondering if you could clear something up for me. Tonight I discovered that somebody at IP 24.80.152.101 had vandalized the Mexico (game) page several times on 10 Sept. When I finished reverting the vandalism, I noticed that the IP in question appeared as a live link, so I clicked on it, planning to leave the user a message on his talk page. However, all I found was something called a "special page" for that IP number, with no talk page at all, and just a list of edits that had been carried out by someone at that IP (4 edits in total, all of them directed at the Mexico (game) page for some reason). So my question is: What gives? It almost looks like somebody set up a special page for himself just so he could do a little vandalism. Or is a "special page" actually "special" in some way that I'm not aware of? Buck Mulligan 03:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Dear Gamaliel,
I wrote the Wikipedia article on William Garnett that you have flagged for possible copyright problems. I believe that I have followed all Wikipedia guidelines in writing this article and that I did not violate any copyrights. The copyright flag you posted indicated that I should assert my copyright on the William Garnett talk page, but the link to that page indicates that there is no such page. Therefore, I am posting my reply to your page.
My primary source for the article is "William Garnett Aerial Photographs," 1996, published by the University of California Press. Other sources include recent obituaries in the Los Angeles Times, New York Times, San Francisco Chronicle and an artist profile at the J. Paul Getty Museum in Malibu.
There are 21 factual assertions about William Garnett in my article and each fact is corroborated by at least two of the reputable sources mentioned above. Most facts are corroborated by three or four of the sources. As a postscript to this note I have listed the 21 facts and then included an indication of what sources corroborate that fact. After that listing I include links to these online sources and a bibliographical reference to the book I cite.
If you consult these sources you will see that I have not violated any of their copyrights. I have simply laid out the salient, skeletal facts of William Garnett's life in the chronological order in which they occurred, according to these sources.
I hope you will examine the sources I have cited, agree that there are no copyright violations and remove the copyright flag from the article.
Sincerely,
H Lewis
The 21 factual assertions and their sources:
Birth year (explicit or implied): nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
Birth city: nyt, lat, wgap, getty
Move to Pasadena: nyt, lat, sfc (implied), wgap (to Altadena)
John Muir High School: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
Art Center School: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
Crime scene photography: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
Signal Corps service: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
G.I. Bill & flying: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
Bought first plane in 1947: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap (cites 1949)
Guggenheim grants: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap, getty
Fortune magazine appearance: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
One man show at Eastman House: nyt (says 4 man), lat, sfc, wgap
Family of Man exhibition: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
Use of a Cessna 170B: nyt, lat, wgap, getty (no model number cited)
1958 move to Napa: lat, wgap
UC Berkeley employment: nyt, lat, sfc, wgap
Museum collections: nyt, lat (getty only), sfc, getty (getty only)
Wife Eula Beal & three sons: nyt, lat, sfc
Death date: nyt, lat, sfc
Death city: nyt, lat, sfc
Books by Garnett: lat, sfc, uc berkeley library
Getty Art Museum (getty)
http://www.getty.edu/art/gettyguide/artMakerDetails?maker=1580
Los Angeles Times (lat) http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-garnett5sep05,0,6657309.story?coll=la-home-obituaries
New York Times (nyt) http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/09/obituaries/09garnett.html
San Francisco Chronicle (sfc) URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/09/10/BAG0CL2UHU1.DTL
"William Garnett Aerial Photographs," 1996, University of California Press, Berkeley. (wgap)
UC Berkeley Library http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/
Replied at Talk:William Garnett. Gamaliel 18:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm one of the editors who has contributed significantly to the Patrick Kroupa article. My interest in all this began when the 60's Yippie Speaking Tour showed up on my campus in 2003. I made a lot of the sections in the article and unfortunately probably made it too gung ho in places, especially with liberal POV, I think part of the problem is I took the overall tone from all of the books, etc, and it's probably not appropriate for an encyclopedia entry.
I'd like to turn it into a good article which covers all relevant material (none of which is present post 2000 right now) removes material not necessary (civil rights section) and removes the liberal POV that got picked up from all the references used. I think I have a better overall grasp of style, after having read and used wikipedia for many years and contributed mostly to hacker underground articles, the latest of which was Mixter. I directly reference everything I write, backed up with real world books, articles, etc, not websites, there is no original research, but I guess that isn't the problem since nobody has ever found fault with that, only the overall tone.
I would very much appreciate advice on the following:
Although I made a lot of the article's structure, over time there have been hundreds of edits. May I simply add and remove sections without stepping on any toes?
I wanted to make changes and additions a long time ago, I even wrote the subject of the article and received no response. If I'm shooting a movie or writing a book, he seems to cooperate, any web oriented project does not seem to receive cooperation at all. This seems to extend to all projects they (the NY mindvox people) are involved with. Dead trees and movies, keep coming out. Their own website was last updated in 2003, all their efforts seem to be completely offline. At this point I mostly dropped it because my intent was not to anger or upset anyone and I ceased adding material or edits, which is when every organization he is a member of seems to have arrived and added themselves into the entry and started the "Affiliations" section which in my opinion should either be worked into the text, or removed.
To be succinct, my questions are:
May I edit/remove/change large sections of the article without upsetting the many editors or violating some policy of wikipedia?
Should I write any of the other main editors/wikipedia admins such as Myleslong (who is also in CDC with Kroupa) and ask them or mention this first, or simply do it and they can edit/revert at will?
The article has many links and all references I used are included. It also links web sites, but none are commercial or for profit. Neither Kroupa or anybody involved with Mindvox seems to be selling anything.
I've looked at bios of controversial people in similar positions such as Tim Leary, Burroughs, etc. Is there any other biographical article that stands out as a good example you think I should look at prior to making changes, or any other wikipedia policy I should read.
In short: I would like to bring the article into focus, remove the cruft and liberal POV and not enrage any of the other editors, some of them also admins on wikipedia. Probably that won't be possible, but I would like to do my best.
Thanks TrancedOut 02:43, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
The user evading block posted again on the Global warming talk page. Since you erased his comments before and he posted the exact same thing as before, I thought I'd let you know. Brusegadi 04:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
FYI — goethean ॐ 15:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Gamaliel. I'm an editor who spends a lot of time working in politically controversial topics making sure that POV doesn't work its way into the project. I was recently involved in a dispure with the user Getaway on a statement on the Sam Brownback page, and while browsing other topics of political pertinence I happened on the ongoing dispute at the Fred Phelps page. If there's any way I can be of assistance in disputed material, I am more than happy to lend a hand to make sure that NPOV is maintained, that no unreliable sources get through, and that interests stay out of the project. Just give me a shout on my talk page if I can be of assistance. -- Kuzaar- T- C- 15:38, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you recently participated in the discussion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roy St. Clair (4th nomination). You may also be interested in the following discussions for the following collectible card game players:
Thank you. -- Malber ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
See my answer on WP:ANI. -- LiverpoolCommander 12:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I've brought up this AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abid Chohan, which you had previously commented on a batch of Manchester councillors including Mr Chohan. I think he is one of the least notable entries. Perhaps you feel like commenting? JASpencer 14:12, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
As an administrator, your reverts of the Fox News Channel article are especially astounding. This highly debated addition to the article has been discussed on the talk page and can be found in the archives as well. As a result, it was removed from the article. Now, without discussing the change, you are imposing a POV on the article that you believe the channel is conservative. Even if you believe consensus has not been reached, continuing to add this assertion of bias to the article is inappropriate. As the talk page states, this is not a factual position. Please stop adding it to the article, atleast until a firm consensus is reached (which I believe already has). AuburnPilot Talk 05:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Just viewed the mess on the FNC Page that gamaliel has caused. It's common sense to view a talk page and anyway what you were trying to add was highly POV. Why did you keep editing with your own POV when different users were reverting it? if wiki has admins like this, it still has a long way to go before it can gain any real credibility. Perrymason 13:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel, I apologize for butting in here, but I notice that one of your edit summaries states that "obvious facts are not POV". I must ask, obvious to whom? Wikipedia is about sourcing claims, and verifiability. This is far from the first time I have watched you take this stance. Just because you think something is an obvious fact does not make it so, and does not release you from the responsibility of sourcing the claims you add to articles. In my opinion, you were adding POV OR. (Didn't the owner of Fox just give a bunch of money to Hillary? Certainly a multinational corporation cannot be labelled with an "obvious" political leaning.) Our history shows that there is a diverse group of editors, with widely differing personal POVs. But we must all learn to become more objective when editing. Not only does it make for a better encyclopedia, but is also gives us the added benefit of being able to hold our own POVs more credibly when they are based on verifiable sources. Crockspot 14:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Your edit to the introduction is an improvement and is fair. My only concern is that should such language be added to the CNN and MSNBC articles to be consistent? Especially with MSNBC, who in recent years has seemed to directly take on and try to counterbalance FoxNews. Ramsquire 17:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:FCFCcover.jpg. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.
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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 00:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Oops, I could have sworn I used that dropdown menu. Fixed. Gamaliel 01:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm willing to work with the escort category, but I made a small adjustment. I removed the "sex worker" category from the category, and added this discription for the category: "This category is for persons who have offered or advertised their companionship for a monetary fee. Escorts may or may not be involved in sex work." BTW, somebody reverted your edit to gannon back to the courtesans and prostitutes cat, but I reverted back to your edit. Crockspot 19:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
In regard to your statement on WP:BLPN, I left you this reply there:
"Since it is Fox"? That is very POV. Do you have ANY evidence that Fox has EVER gotten a story wrong on the facts? It's fair to quibble over perceived "spin" that a particular organization may or may not apply to their coverage, but the factual accuracy of their reporting has never been at issue. If this is the the standard that you apply to the reliability of a source, then to be fair, anything sourced by The Nation, Daily Kos, TruthOut (Leopold), heck, even the NY Times (remember Jayson Blair's stories they had to retract?) and CBS (fake but accurate) would have to be brought into question. Do you really want to go there? Crockspot 19:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
I am fairly certain that, by your standard, I could gut the Jeff Gannon article, citing past reliability problems with most of the sources, and require that additional sources be found. I'm not planning to actually do that, just pointing out to you the double standard that you appear to apply when the subject is someone that you have "issues" with. Crockspot 19:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
I recently saw Laura2006's edits to Sami al-Arian. I think this user could use some mentoring, or at least some watching over. I have the page (al-Arian) on my watchlist, but I think it would be good if an administrator paid extra attention to this user until they get fully aquainted with Wikipedia's policies. Regards, DRK 20:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
The image in the Mark Souder article was, I believe, a photoshopped version of this jpg: [3], and was designed to make the Congressman appear particularly unattractive, I thought. I've not worked with image uploading (to replace the photoshopped one), and this appears to be a special situation in any case, so any assistance you could provide to fix the situation would be appreciated. John Broughton | Talk 17:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I've noticed you found your way onto the Byrd page. I have two questions for you, if I put a tag on the top of a page requesting citations, do I need to go through the article to each individual sentence that needs a cite? AND am I correct when I tell users that Wiki policy forbids users from posting unsourced and unattributaed slurs made by other people, on the talk pages. There is a user who wants to refer to one of Byrd's detractors as someone who has been "labelled an 'Uncle Tom' by many". Ramsquire 21:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Why did you delete my edit on Fox News it was factual that CNN recieves the same criticsm from the other side? ````Tannim Tannim 23:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe this version (which was there before the weasel editing) is more agreeable to a consensus and a compromise between the two positions: "The channel was created by Australian-American media magnate Rupert Murdoch, who hired Roger Ailes, then President of CNBC and a former Broadway musical producer as its founding CEO. Fox News is seen by critics of the channel as advocating conservative political positions, a charge which the channel, whose slogans include "Fair and Balanced" and "We Report, You Decide", denies.". Notice it contains the changes like removing "openly", "widely", and "operative". Seems to be the better choice. What are your thoughts? AuburnPilot Talk 06:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
This is all pretty minor stuff and with a little effort I think we can all come to a reasonable consensus on this. Gamaliel 20:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
I have initiated an RfC on this topic. It would be great if you'd participate rather than continuing to revert; at least until something comes of the RfC. AuburnPilot Talk 17:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
You deleted information from a Kennedy article on assassination theories because a living person was mentioned. You were then asked to identify the living person you believe exists. You still have not identified the person except to subsequently say that one exists. Could you please either identify the person who you use as the reason for the deletion or revert your deletion?
Thank you
RPJ 20:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I have never attacked you personally - I have only questioned your opinions. Please do not play the game of accusing me of attacking you, which you know is not true. -- andreasegde 23:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I've adopted The Game (rapper) page to help fight vandalism. However, it is hopeless. This page needs protection pronto. I've listed it on the WP:RFPP page and nothing has happened, apparently there is a backlog. You can check through the page history and see how much times it get's vandalized in a day. Is there anyway you can protect this page? (See this is why I'd like to become an admin, there are so many backlogs and things that need to be checked by admins, but when you go through the RfA, they want to talk about edit summaries and edit counts. Anyway, I'm done venting.) Ramsquire 19:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I've reported the user who, on the JFK, Oswald, and Assassination theories pages continuously accuses us of being government agents because we have the audacity to ask for reliable sources. I know you have been hesitant to get involved in WP:PAIN procedures with him but I think you should add something since you are the focus of his rants more than I am. Ramsquire 23:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
What wasn't neutral in my changes to the CIndy Sheehan article? --—Preceding unsigned comment added by Durbinmj ( talk • contribs)
Courtesy notice: Lori Klausutis the article you created is up for deletion.-- Tbeatty 19:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, could you help me convert the references in the "Family" section of Cindy Sheehan that I've just added to footnotes? I can't figure it out. That's something complicated about the Wikipedia code that I think should be simplified. Badagnani 22:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Is it OK if I delete RPJ's attacks on JimWae and ourselves from the talk pages of the relevant articles, considering he's been blocked for them?
I think we need an RfC on RPJ's behavior. Basically, I've seen that he is continuing to misuse citations, conduct original research, violate NPOV, refuse to use reliable sources, refuse to assume good faith by calling editors "disinformationalists" and insinuating that I am a bigot. I've had enough of this. Since he has shown over the past year and through five blocks, that he does not understand what Wikipedia is, and is just trolling, we should seek third party comment. Ramsquire 17:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
It appears the IP address for a computer lab has been blocked do to your blocking of a user called "Madseason777". The user has been identified but cannot unblock her own account, which has caused a disruption to Wikipedia use in the lab. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Staley8 ( talk • contribs)
Bigfoot found... surely if anything's BJAODN material it's that. ~ ONUnicorn ( Talk / Contribs) 20:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Here it is if you want it:
In the southern reigion of Canada. Egg Hugger, the man who caught bigfoot, says that it was fairly easy. Egg says"It honestly wasn't that hard. I set up bigfoot traps all around the woods by my house and I would check them each of them about three times per day and I only have about 50 or 60 of them. I bought the traps from a Mexican who said he was selling bear traps in the back of his '67 Chevy real cheap. So I asked him if they could catch Bigfoot too and uhg... actually thats what they are really made for so I told him I would take 60. I look at each trap every day 3 times and I have been doing that for 45 year it's great!!!" Bigfoot was caught and Egg filmed it as he appreached the beast. Unfortunatally Egg died tring to help Bigfoot into the cage he had for him. Egg and is friends have een doing this for many years so they concider themselfs professionals. Bigfoot is now being help in a CIA facility for questioning but the chef of the CIA Ima Eurad says that he will not cooperate with them. Bigfoot has killed 94.77 people so far and can't be trusted. He waslast seen driving down I 55 in Illnois but he now could be anywhere in the southern reigon of New Hampshire. He was also seen in Detroit begging hobo's for coughy. Look out for him/her/it.( the .77 is found because he tore off a mans legs and arms and shaved his head.) STAY ALERT HE COULD BE IN YOUR BACKYARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enjoy :) Gamaliel 20:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Several IP addresses whose edits and writing style are consistent with those of User:Joehazelton have been editing Peter Roskam lately. They are: 207.67.146.62 ( talk · contribs), 207.67.146.232 ( talk · contribs), 207.67.146.146 ( talk · contribs), 207.67.146.166 ( talk · contribs), and 207.67.145.200 ( talk · contribs). I know that you have blocked some of them already, but are you willing to do a range block? NatusRoma | Talk 19:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Joe, this sort of this is exactly why you won't be unblocked. It is very simple, you can be unblocked when you demonstrate to me or another administrator that you can discuss issues without attacking other editors or making threats. Until that time, you will remain blocked. Gamaliel 18:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
ALL INFORMATION SHOWN HERE IS UNRELIABLE AND SHOULD BE NOT BE CONSIDERED AUTHORITATIVE AND MAY BE DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEALTH, WEALTH, REPUTATION AND LIBERTY.
joehazelton
207.28.144.2 continues to vandlize pages despite your warning [5]. Not one of this user's edits over the past six months appears to have been meritorious. I suggest indefinite blocking, duration to be fixed if and when user appeals. Pop Secret 23:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I was given a WP:NPA warning by Aaron 20:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC) on my talk page, because of a comment in an AfD discussion. I do not agree that my comment was a personal attack or that the warning was justified. Am I allowed to remove it and if so when? Is there any penalty if an editor is in the habit of placing a lot of warnings on the talk pages of editors who express opposing views in AfD's? Thanks! Edison 06:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel, the same user who opposed the last RfC has opened another one in hopes of continuing the debate on weasel words. I vowed not to participate but have made a couple comments. I thought you might want to take a look since you participated in the last one. AuburnPilot Talk 21:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Gamaliel, I sort of see the point you are making that the study is so diverse that to just say critics is misleading. But I think we can leave it with just critics since, although the persons contributing weren't all critics, their view that Fox has bias is a criticism, especially of a news operation. Think of it this way, I am not a video game critic, love them actually, but from time to time I'll participate on users survey's saying "X game sucks". So in that instance, it's ok to lump me in with critics. Ramsquire 21:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
After looking at the contributions of Cbuhl79 and Mrmiscellanious, I'm starting to think one is simply a sockpuppet of the other. Not only are they arguing the exact same point on the FNC talk page, look at the time frame of their edits:
06:33, 09 October 2006 Mrmiscellanious completely stops editing after commenting on FNC talk page
01:41, 10 October 2006 Cbuhl79 starts editing after 3 months of silence, just hours after Mrmiscellanious's last edit; first comment is on FNC talk page.
21:21, 28 October 2006 Cbuhl79 stops editing after ArbCom Request is filed on his behavior
02:54, 29 October 2006 Mrmiscellanious begins editing within hours of Cbuhl's last edit; is now arguing same points as Cbuhl
I'm not sure if this is enough for a sockpuppet report on WP:SSP, but I was curious to see what somebody else thought. -- AuburnPilot talk 07:17, 9 November 2006 ( UTC)
Is there something going on with this article I'm not aware of? THREE editors, using what is, on the surface, the most handwavingly bogus of rationales ("the name is not important"), are removing a name from the article. Inclusion of the name like this is a standard piece of information -- for verification and fact-checking, if nothing else -- yet it's being removed. Is there some backstory here? -- Calton | Talk 00:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I find it odd you lately have been appearing on his talk page to issue warnings and its starting to appear that you have an issue with him and possibly are stalking his edits, I will assume good faith and just take it as a mere alignment of stars that keeps leading you back there. Perhaps you should ask another person to look at your complaints you may have, your constant appearance may soon be taken in a negative light. Thank you. This comment does not need a reply. Just FYI. -- Nuclear Zer0 00:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. Please see my addition to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Living People Patrol. This appears to be a proposal, and it was treated as official policy. Edison 17:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I am a teacher at a high school using IP address 64.150.0.1 You have had to block us from editing because people at the school repeatedly vandalize sites. Today I found some vandalism from us that has survived for 5 months-- since May, 2006. It now has infected about.com and other sites which copy entries from Wikipedia. Here is the article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Quantum_mechanics&diff=prev&oldid=52505796
My question is: Is there any way to help clean this stuff up--while I am logged in from the same IP? (I couldn't post to this User Talk page because of the block, so I had to post this later, from home.)
The vandalism by 64.150.0.1 to "Quantum Mechanics" has not lasted 5 months--it got reverted Sept 24.
The article The Singing Senators does not seem to have any references. The group supposedly operated in 2000, but have no notability I can find. What is the procedure for proposing deletion? Start with a PROD, or somehow start a AfD? I have no experience with either. Or does it seem as important as other bands and singing groups with articles. There are lots of musical groups which get deleted which are probably more notable by any rational criterion. Edison 04:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking of setting up a project or guideline, that discusses how editors should edit articles dealing with conspiracies, allowing leeway since many conspiracies require speculation, but still conforming to Wiki policies of WP:NPOV, WP:V, and WP:RS. The reason of course is RPJ, who appears to now be forum shopping his POV pro-conspiracy edits into various articles, like j. Edgar Hoover and the CIA, in effect ruining good biographical and organizational articles. Any help or guidance, will be appreciated. Ramsquire 17:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel,
I recently started an entry for myself at the suggestion of a friend of mine. It looks like some people think that is vane and some people think that I am not worthy of a place on Wikipedia. I understand that it is not the white pages but I am curious about your thoughts because I thought I followed the right proceedure. I listed under my last name because there was only one listing (and after a recent trip to Poland where I learned it is a very common last name). Two of my ex-employees have gone in and tried to add to my page and although they did not say what I thought they would I thought it was interesting. I guess my question is, was I deleted because I am not well-known enough to support my vanity?
(As a non ego based explanation for my post: while my contributions are not blindingly stellar, I have owned a successful company for 10 years, I do have over 25 patents and I have won several international product design awards including one from business week.)
Please email me at aaron@evodesign.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaronsz ( talk • contribs)
I've posted a reply to your request for diffs over at Talk:Chuck Munson re: his continued reverts.
At base, I feel that Chuck is demonstrating total bad faith here -- he denies what was written (in a good faith, NPOV fashion), then when confronted with the evidence either goes around claiming persecution and just goes haywire reverting anything and everything that challenges the image he wants projected on Wikipedia.
Thank you for your patience in this matter, but a stern warning: be prepared to handle Chuck with asbestos mitts. -- Daniel 01:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Cbuhl79 has opened a Request for Arbitration about the Fox News Channel intro wording. Somehow he forgot to notify you. I am requesting you visit the RfA and add your $0.02. Current RfA Page. Personally, I can't believe how far he's taking this, especially since he is the only objector... anyway, thanks! / Blaxthos 20:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I did not intend to leave Gamaliel off the notice of the RfA. I did not consider Gamaliel a principal disputant, because his last comment was before the first RfC was closed, and since much of my RfA was specifically not concerning Gamaliel. For some reason, I also forgot Gamaliel when I earlier asked Isarig and Tbeatty to comment on the discussion, but I did mean to include Gamaliel as an "Other editor who has been involved". Cbuhl79 03:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
141.154.200.178 continues to insert the following language into the introduction. I've explained through edit summaries, and on the anon talk page, what WP:BLP requires when asserting that position. User has failed to listen and wishes to edit war over it. Should I wait for 3RR or is there a process for blocking a user who fails to observe WP:BLP?. Ramsquire 22:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there; I came here to chide you for adding {{ test}} to an article rather than {{ subst:test}}. But as an admin you know that, so I won't. Love the troll photo.-- Anthony.bradbury 13:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there,
How do I go about getting my updates approved? I appreciate that I'm new, so I could be adding anything. How do I get some credit?
P.s. I like the "Funny things said about me" section! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BZH56 ( talk • contribs)
I don't remember making that edit... I don't even think I have ever been on to that page... I don't know what happened. =( Change it back to the way it was before "I" edited it. CustardToast 02:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry that this thing won't die -- after the ArbCom rejected cbuhl's request and I asked him to let it die now, he went and slapped a WP:NPA template on my userspace and talkspace! Final straw for me -- I have called for an RfArb regarding his behavior. I listed you as a witness, and I would sincerely appreciate you relaying your experiences and thoughts to the ArbCom. Sorry this has turned into such a dismal situation. Hopefully our next interaction will be under more pleasant circumstances! Thanks. / Blaxthos 18:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
After some consideration, I've decided to take a very firm position regarding the situation with Cbuhl79. I considered stuff like "be the bigger man" and "not a big deal", "let it slide", etc... but it occured to me that in order to preserve the value and absolute functionality of the wiki system, 'somebody has to stop those who would abuse the project or the editors who make good faith efforts to improve it. It is ironic (or perhaps apropos) that my career goal is to become a U.S. Attorney -- though I'm very aware of avoiding WP:LAWYER. I realize that everyone's time is best spent actually improving wikipedia's content, but I'm requesting that you review (and contribute, if appropriate) to my workspace for the pending case (which I believe will be accepted). You can find the workspace at USER:Blaxthos/RfARB_Cbuhl79. Any relevant contributions, collaboration, or advice is absoultely welcome and appreciated. Thanks! / Blaxthos 21:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
One ArbCom member has voted to reject, and his reasoning "let this dispute die" seems to be influenced by Cbuhl79's constant rambling about content. The ArbCom needs to realize that i'm calling his behavior into question. Without some sort of censure, this guy is going to (1) damage the credibility of wikipedia; and (2) frustrate other editors to the point that they probably will not wish to continue working on whatever articles he's hawking. It seems absolutely inconceivable to me that he can get away with all this. This is my first real experience with any kind of disciplinary actions on wikipedia... do you have any advice or guidance? I now have an advocate to assist with prosecuting the case, assuming it gets accepted. / Blaxthos 11:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, trust me, I know about real life. If wikipedia was a paying gig it would be much easier to justify making more time. ;-) As far as the RfARB, I can see how the case would appear unnecessary on a cursory glance. It is my hope that the ArbCom will do a little more digging and understand the depth of the incident (and likelihood for future abuses, should it not be addressed). The advocate has suggested that the failure to request mediation may be the silver bullet, however I explained that mediation is just another ineffective step when one party is not acting in good faith. We'll see what happens! Thanks again! / Blaxthos 01:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, my name is Brian Hodges and I am a freelance writer researching an article about Wikipedia. As part of the article I am interviewing people who contribute to the site, and I would also like to intereview an Administrator or two as well. So that's where you come in. If you're interested in participating, please contact me at brianrhodges@gmail.com.
Thanks,
Brian
68.39.158.205 23:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
John F. Kennedy assassination revert was an accident. Just too much cleaning of User:64.88.7.112 vandalisms: [6]
Would you fix them up, please... Andrzej P. Wozniak 18:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
As I didn't have a way to ask you this question via email or IM, I will ask it here. I have read the Roskam Discussion page with stupified wonder at how you managed to maintain your cool with User: Joehazelton. I truly wish I had your level of patience and calmness, and wonder how to develop that quality better. I might have jettisoned him after the third occurence as someone with issues unresolvable outside of intense therapy.
Another question, it seems inappropriate for the commentary heading and dialogue resulting in the diatribe on the Peter Roskam page entitled 'Looking at the editing Histories of Goethena/Propol.' As it seemed to be essentially a ranting edit war, its continued presence within the discussion area is rather off-putting. It certainly gave me pause before contributing; if that sort of personal attack (mostly by the aformentioned Joehazelton) awaited edits made in good faith, why bother at all?
I can see that that the editor is no longer a member of the community (or is he? He did have multiple dopplegånger accounts...duh duh duhhhh!), so why are we keeping his flame wars on the page? They serve no purpose other than to illustrate how not to respond to edits. Maybe we can put that sad chapter behind us, archive it, and move on.
Again, you have my respect (and a wee bit of awe) for your patience and reserve in handling the matter. Good on ya! Arcayne 08:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I just added this to RPJ's talk page. Am I going too far? If not, any support will be appreciated. I've had enough of this. Ramsquire 00:34, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I would like to request that the articles Peter_Roskam and Tammy_Duckworth be protected. I would ask that other articles regarding political candidates currently running for office be protected, but this might be something addressed on a larger scale through policy change inthe future. Considering the potential for unscupulous persons looking for an 11th hour propoganda tool or muzzle might alter, vandalize or add material from IP addresses and other ill-meaning users. The sharp rise in vandalism in these two pages makes it clear that his pattern will only increase this last week before the election. Arcayne 06:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel, as in Rabban Gamaliel? Darkyoshi 22:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough. I was simply concerned. Maybe my worry is for naught. (See> I used the word naught in a modern sentence. I is edumikated!) Arcayne 01:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I've initiated the RfC on RPJ. I hope I did it correctly. Feel free to make any comments. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 01:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
T Gholson ( talk · contribs), without comment. JBKramer 15:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
[8] — goethean ॐ 20:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The vietnam campaign theme issue was there for almost 6 months, backed up w/proper sources and you suddenly decide it's not neutral?? -- Bairdso66 22:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Apparantly the RfC has not worked and the user will continue to downgrade articles, and will not relent. I think we need to go to mediation. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 17:28, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Lately you have been appearing in articles and deleting information that is well referenced to reliable sources. When you erase such valuable information from the articles you will type in "pov pushing" or simply "rv pov."
If I am correct and this is the Wikipedia policy to include all significant points of view (pov), what does it mean when you write "pov pushing" or simply "pov" when you delete information?
Dunno if this is an AWB problem or what, but you just added Category:Living people and Category:Year of birth unknown to the article, and Harrington is dead and his birthyear is in the article. I've fixed it, but thought you might want to know in case something is off with AWB. Gamaliel 00:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello Gamaliel. You recently gave direction/encouragement to me about citations on the Prechter bio. That page could use your attention once again. An editor has placed text in the lead section and cited it as a quotation from the Wall Street Journal; I checked, and the WSJ did run a piece on Prechter on the date in the citation. Problem is, the "quote" now on Prechter's bio is not in the WSJ article, a copy of which I have before me. The real article was basically negative, and what this editor did was write a summary that's more negative still. Bottom line, he put his words in the mouth of the WSJ. Unfortunately, this is not a newbie mistake to be gently corrected. I'm in an editing dispute with this editor regarding a different page, which is now in mediation. This editor had not made contributions to Prechter's bio before our dispute, and this latest "contribution" fits an obvious pattern. As I understand Wikipedia guidelines, NPOV and the accuracy of bios of living persons is a serious matter, thus my comment here. I'm open to any thoughts or guidance you have, thanks. Rgfolsom 17:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Understood, thanks. Rgfolsom 18:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I tried your advice (as you'll see on the talk page), but if you look on the Prechter bio you'll also see that I didn't get very far. I acknowledge that my other dispute may cloud my judgement, but think it's painfully clear that what this editor is doing to Prechter's bio goes beyond POV and is close to slander. It's everything that Wikipedia's policy talks about in avoiding biased or malicious content. Please give me your evaluation.
Rgfolsom 20:53, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate your effort to keep the peace -- last I replied to your similar comment on Talk:Robert Prechter, I trust you'll be able to reply to what I said. Thank you. Rgfolsom 19:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey. When you're undeleting pages like Cornell University will 3000 edits, how do you have all the checkboxes checked without having to go down the list and press the mouse button three thousand times? Thx. - crz crztalk 18:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
With the growing consensus on the RfC being that I should forego the mediation process and take this case to ArbCom now, I think I may pull back the Cabal request and take it ArbCom. I would like this situation handled as soon as possible, but I also don't want to have this thing kicked out because I didn't first seek mediation. Ramsquire (throw me a line)
Hi there. I have reverted this edit you made, adding a speedy deletion tag with a reason of "pdf file". May I ask why you added this, seeing as being a PDF is not a valid criteria for speedy deletion? -- TheParanoidOne 23:11, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Extra-special thanks for having nominated me in the first place!
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Thanks for your input on my (nearly recent) Request for adminship, which regretfully achived no consensus, with votes of 68/28/2. I am grateful for the input received, both positive and in opposition, and I'd like to thank you for your participation. | |
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According to this talk page (and you personal log) on 18:50, 15 November 2006 you have deleted article to clean up the mess. Do you mind restoring it? 'cause to my opinion we have seen smth. more appropriate than what is there now. -- 132.73.80.117 18:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel, I placed a warning tag on getaway ( talk · contribs)'s talk page for stating "instead of a series of election-inspiried charges by overzealous Democrats out to completely destroy a black man that dares to get off of the Democratic Plantation???" In which he was in clear violation of the policy. I've noticed that he has changed the text of two of my warnings on his talk page (see [9] and [10].) Is he allowed to alter warning tags like that - isn't that considered vandalism in itself? I'm not sure. -- Strothra 22:36, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I am abusive because I express disagreement with you? I did not attack your personally; nor did I use ugly language. You did not address anything what I wrote, so you turn the matter to something else: me.
You disagree with me, so you use your power to silence me. OMG!
You seem like a smart person, I urge you to reconsider, and examine what I say. Don't make Wikipedia a tyranny.
Thanks.
Jon White, NYC
[11] [12] [13] [14] — goethean ॐ 22:19, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/RPJ/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 12:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Turkeyday.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in its not being deleted. Thank you. —— An gr 11:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Randroide 19:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC) 66.114.0.3. You blocked him/her one month ago.
Multiple (check complete history) vandalism at [15].
Good pictures in your page. Cheers.
Another admin is trying to keep negitive sorced fact off the page because they do not view it as signifigent. Would you please look at the talk page and let me know what you think. This is the same article that someone deleted everything and put up the congressmans bio. Thanks :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.8.171.61 ( talk • contribs)
Neither you nor Cryptic have responded to my concerns. Am I wrong to take a lack of responce as the go ahead to place to newly sorced facts back into the article?
Why did you remove this template? Using explicit placement of the TOC makes the text flow correctly, and without it there is a huge empty space left. -- Dgies 19:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel - I am trying to load information about Badcock similar to any other company profile on Wikipedia. I work for the coporation and am unsure what information I am posting that is not allowed. Please give me some direction so that the information we post about the corporation will stay posted. Badcock Home Furniture .... user name Badcockandmore ... 21:10, 29 November 2006
Are you an admin? Someone has vandalised my page [16]. Will you tell him/her to stop please? Wiki eZach| talk 22:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I got this message from you:
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Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Gamaliel 19:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Gdo01 19:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
What are you talking about? I certainly wasn't trying to vandalize anything. I don't even know what page you believe I vandalized.
I've been replacing fair use book covers with free ones when possible; see the link in my sig. Image:Janeeyrepenguin.jpg is now orphaned; just wanted to give you a heads up. Chick Bowen ( book cover project) 05:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
While reading an interesting article about early console gaming, I ran across an article about Video game crash of 1983. Very interesting, but seemed to be a lot of conjecture and content analysis. I looked on the talk page and found a bunch of discussion about how the article was unsourced, sometimes contradictory, and full of original research. I posted a note on the talk page about my concerns, and suggested it would need a lot of work to be brought within spec. To put a sense of urgency, I noted that such noncompliance is criteria for deletion. Several contributors to the video game project have become hell bent on attacking my credibility and my "ignorance" of the subject matter (as opposed to answering what I believe are valid concerns). I'm not sure how to proceed -- any advice? You can find the reading here. If you read the whole talk page, it reads like a group effort in conducting said OR. / Blaxthos 21:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I received this today from RPJ's sidekick. I took it as a blatant attempt to bait me into something. So I dangled the line, the and got this as a response, which sort of proved my original thesis. I'm thinking of adding it to the Workshop page of the Arbitration, but wanted a second or third opinion before doing so. Ramsquire (throw me a line) 02:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Gamaliel, would you take a look at Cindy Sheehan and suggest what can be done to clean up this mess? Thanks! Pgc512 13:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I know you were just doing routine vandal patrol. Still, I want to offer a humble and appreciative thank you. You and other vandal patrol members keep me and others contributors to WIKI from getting discouraged and giving up. Thank you so very much. TonyCrew 22:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
You are one of several people who was instrumental in cleaning up my List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry page. This page was the first page I created and still remains the page that I have made the most edits to on wikipedia (95 edits). Thank you for your assistance. Since this page received so much more cleanup assistance than most of my other pages I am wondering if it was a focus article of a WikiProject Group. Do you know of any such designation? It would be helpful because I will be self nominating for admin tomorrow or Tuesday. Please reply at my userpage with any info you may have. TonyTheTiger 17:27, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I do not want to get in the middle of that humongous discussion about Robeson. I do think this information could be added to the article. Wales had a "Paul Robeson Civil Rights Day" on 21 October 2006. According to BBC, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6072908.stm, it was to mark the 30th anniversary of Robeson's death -- which was January 23, 1976. (I think it's more likely that it was to mark the 40th anniversary of the Aberfan disaster.) Anyway, it was an all-day event, http://www.cynefinywerin.org.uk/index.php?docid=243, including a concert that evening. What i can't figure out is if this is an annual civil rights day or if it was a one-time reaction to the civil rights changes in the U.K.
Thanks for weighing in on the Savage article. I have to admit, defending Savage leaves a bad taste in my mouth...(or should I say keyboard...oh well I never was good with metaphors)...but the line has to be drawn somewhere and I think WP:BLP is good ground to stand on.-- WilliamThweatt 05:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Our dear friend, EnglishEfternamn, has decided to revert my "vandalism" again. As a new user, I'm a little unsure of how to go about fixing this problem. I reverted his revert, but of course that is only a temporary solution. Any suggestions for a newbie? Mbc362 04:37, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.
For the Arbitration Committee -- Srikeit 05:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
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Hi, I just had a quick question that i need to be answered. Why on Aug 11, 2006 did you erase a pharagraph describing how William Greer killed JFk on Nov.22 1963. This is an important peice of evidence in showing how the United States government is controlled totally by a world wide force able to conceal major events in history and keeping the human race ignorant to the problems that face earth today. I am in no way trying to personaly attack you or anyhing like that, I am just wondering if you can explaine why you did this? Thanks so much.
Gamaliel, may the new year bring you peace, happiness, love, and hope for all things you wish for.
≈ jossi ≈
(talk) 17:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! may this match your LJ wishes!!!
Das Nerd 07:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
You have contributed as an editor to the List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry. It is undergoing an overhaul according to the recent peer review that generated the following feedback. In addition to the changes there, it is undergoing stylistic changes that prevail at lists that have been selected as featured lists. Conversion to wikitable format began with 2002 today because most articles that reach featured list status are in this format. Feel free to convert additional years, add more columns, or add further details. Hopefully many of the editors who have helped edit this page to its pre review state will help improve it to a featured list quality level. I may not return to make further edits until next week. TonyTheTiger 22:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel,
A fellow African-American user recently expressed some discomfort with the image on this talk page; basically, it left him confused and concerned that you might be... a "not very nice" person, to euphemize. I reassured him that you were a great guy, and that you only intended to deride wiki-trolls (and, really, who doesn't love deriding trolls? :) Still, I thought you might want to know, in case you could think of a way to modify the image or the caption to make your point even more clear. Best wishes, Xoloz 22:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Rather than reverting his talk page, why can't you look into the allegations of abuse posted by that person. As you can see, I am not alone in thinking he has abused his privileges as an editor, you should also look at the same poster, who spoke to LarryV, another adminstrator. ForrestLane42 18:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
I did not realized that this user was banned. The banned user was making light of some accurate insights into goethean's editing style which I see as tyrannical at times. Goethean and I have been in a long protracted edit war. I will admit that I have allowed him to bait me on occassions, but I think if you take the time to look at goethean, you will surely find abusive, arrogant attitude towards me and fellow editors. ForrestLane42 20:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
That's why I am coming to you, LarryV has not responded. With goethean its impossible to set up a RFC because he has powerful friends as administrators. I honestly am not sophicated in Wikipedia language in bring up RFC, its all greek to me. ForrestLane42 21:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
I guess goethean, can have his way, like I said I am not wikipedia-savvy to begin with, just been abused and thrown around too much anyway, just come to the conclusion that wikipedia does not abode well for newcomers ForrestLane42 22:32, 30 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
Well the link you sent says the board is gone....I have request help to you, to LarryV, I left a message on some RTC board, nothing....as I said there are so many wikipedia concepts to learn how to write to get noticed...so the stack is historically against the newcomer ForrestLane42 00:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
How was my last change vandalism? It is really what someone said online and it did not defame the subject of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.234.134 ( talk • contribs)
I noticed that you caught Spnst3's work pretty quickly. After seeing the chop job done on one of my contributions, I checked the rest of this user's work, and found you were already there a week ahead of me.
It's great to know that good people like you are helping keep this site healthy! (Long Live Librarians!!! :^) - KellyLogan 20:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting Molly Ivins! treyjp 00:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Again, I will bring this to your attention, since you are an adminstrator, can you do something protect this page, mediate a continuingly hostile page and I will not say that I am an angel in all this because I let others goat me at times. Here is the part of the talk page for Ken Wilber as an example of a hostile edit war/reverting. not to mention the fact that I have a hunch to believe gadrane is a sockpupet of goethean but thats besides the point. Here is: {long excerpt of Talk:Ken_Wilber#Wilber.27s_work_unverifiable.3F removed} ForrestLane42
First off, how can it be reasonable request for citation - when in the article it already establishes the fact that his work is ignored by academia, by the scientific community, anyone who knows anything about science can easily see that Wilber's work has nothing in come with the scientific method. And if its a reasonable request, then my counterrequest that he proves his claim that Wilber's work is scientifically sound, can be verified by traditional scientific methods, is equally what he is required to do. By the way the Meditation committee, asked for request for mediation, are u in charge of this? ForrestLane42 00:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42
I would love to mediation committee but I don't think I can get a fair hearing. As for what you said about yes, u would think its easy to cite the sentence above as citing but they dont want that. So if anyone must insert a claim must provide a source, so they should be required to cite a source as to why it should be there, not to tag "unsubsantiated claims". ForrestLane42 00:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)ForrestLane42