An article that you have been involved in editing, Robert J White (headmaster), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert J White (headmaster). Thank you. — Moondyne 05:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I think you've misunderstood the TFD outcome. The template was quite rightly deleted as we now know it was a contravention of Wikipedia policy. The closing admin commented:
"Associated with several schools, wide interest, notability of song", etc - this is a reason to have an article on the song…"
"relevant content for each article is decided mostly on its own merits.
"Schools in multiple countries probably do not make the school song any more or less notable. If it does then an article on the song, not a template on its lyrics, is the way to go."
My suggestion is entirely in accordance with the closing admin's comments. There is no need for such harassment. Dahliarose 12:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
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Hi. Whatever happened regarding the discussion over the merge of List of schools in Western Australia and List of schools in Perth, Western Australia? Looking at a number of lists in Category:Lists of schools in Australia I'm starting to wonder if most shouldn't be AfD'd per WP:NOT#DIRECTORY. I wondered what your thoughts were. — Moondyne 15:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Rather than dig a deeper hole for yourself, please slow down and deal with one at a time. If you are arguing for a merge (as you appear to be in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Government schools in New South Wales), then say so. Thats different to an AfD. — Moondyne 12:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC) I'm confused as to exactly what your intentions were and I now wish I'd been a bit firmer above in asking for some more discussion first. — Moondyne 12:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for sort of jumping on you at the discussion of these nominations. I guess the large number of noms lead to a bit of rush of blood. I think a couple of the articles in the mass nom actually need an individual AFD, eg List of schools in Victoria, Australia according to 2005 VCE results. Recurring dreams 10:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
At who has done a considerable amount of work on getting the 'project' up and running and work order for you - and for goodness sake show some sort of gratitude/thanks to those who do it - its one thing to have a bright idea - another to actually follow through. Satu Suro 02:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I've just been checking the updated school assessment log and I see that you're making good progress with the Ds. I note that you seem to have assessed a couple of articles as Bs without notifying the assessment page. In both cases these articles were lacking references and I've now downgraded them to starts. You need to make sure that all articles you rate as B or high are notified to the assessment page. Dahliarose 23:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
No worries. The stats bot has just run and the table is up to date. You could now look at Category:Unassessed Education in Australia articles if you like. — Moondyne 08:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
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I'm curious as to your rationale for this edit? CBC is a former (founding) PSA school and is discussed in the PSA article. — Moondyne 10:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the Barnstar. I hope my comments haven't made life too difficult for you. Just a thought but your local library should have a collection of local newspapers. It might be worth checking through these for the relevant dates (eg, the CBC split) to get a better perspective and get some further source material. These events would surely have attracted some major coverage at the time. Dahliarose 11:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello Twenty Years, thanks for commenting on the issue about which of these paragraphs to go with:
Could you tell me why you chose to stick with the shorter paragraph? Cheers Username nought 09:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC).
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I haven't left a barnstar on Wikipedia for a very long time. Sometimes when you are closely working with somebody you neglect to reward them for things that are really, really great. During my time on Wikipedia, I have seen you grow from a contributor who makes edits every now and then - almost solely contributing to Aquinas College, Perth to a wide PSA school scope. Recently I have stopped my contributions to PSA articles, for reasons both you and I know. I have realised my thank yous over the year you and I have been working together for have culminated in something a little larger. By comparison, you have probably been the editor I have worked with the most. I look forward to working with you in the future. Until then, here's a barnstar in recognition of your efforts in Australian schools articles. Soon enough, I hope to be joining your PSA watch you emailed me about. Thanks again, Auroranorth 09:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC) |
If the AFL grand final has a afl tag - I am curious why have a need to put the sports tag there as well? Satu Suro 11:13, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
As you are familiar with the procedure for deleting templates is there any chance you could nominate this one Template:Elementary school. It seems completely useless and no one is using it. Many thanks. Dahliarose 15:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Any thoughts on the current revisions and revert at Newington and on the alumni list. Mitchplusone 13:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Are you planning to remove all brother and sister schools from all articles and if so would you care to explain fully your reasoning behind this. Mitchplusone 13:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
It isn't that easy to re-instate the David Scott piece and the sections on sport and co-curricular activities with out hours of rewritng as there have been edits since - do you have any suggestions. I am also sure that no amount of explaining will satisfy ExtraDry who reverted them in the first place with the copyright expalnation. Hope you can help. Mitchplusone 14:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
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Hello Twenty Years, thanks for commenting on the issue about which of these paragraphs to go with:
Could you tell me why you chose to stick with the shorter paragraph? Cheers Username nought 09:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC).
Thanks for the help on the Emerson article! I had no idea how to add that flag, and as for the caption thing...it's a form field and I filled it out...sorry for the redundancy. Mike Searson 16:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, I guess they did not want the flag there as they took it back out. Thanks all the same! -- Mike Searson 19:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for the talk page help :) BTW I cleared out a few of your prods from last night because they were clear A7s in my view. Hope you're having a good night... I pulled an all nighter trying to get this assignment done. :| Orderinchaos 08:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey just had another look at the infobox for the Carmel Adventist College article and you are correct, it's an Aust Private School infobox. Many of the Adventist schools had weird infoboxes and I assumed when I looked at the way the logo had a box around it that it was one of them. Thanks for pointing it out! Loopla 09:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
You seem to be remotely active (well more so that the others on here anyway), im just after a few comments regarding my 3 requests on Moon's talk page (bottom). Many Thanks. Twenty Years 11:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Good point OIC - where is the problem - the thing is in Victoria is where the whole steiner thing is brewing - or the ABC religion report has been regularly reporting on the issue - its not just that either montessori or steiner schools are different - they also attract external interest as to their methods and rationales and approaches to primary education - and the dynamics as to how the different state departments of educations in australia cope with schools with 'difference' is intriguing when we lay claim to being a multicultural country (or did at some stage) - take the friends school as an example in hobart, tas - for instance. more off line latyer - cheers Satu Suro 03:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Apologies - gmail Satu Suro 23:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, TwentyYears. Please refer my user page (and note this suggestion is low priority). Powderbark2 03:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
That sounds good to me. — Moondyne 08:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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I think I don't agree with some of your recent changes, and thought I'd ask you before reverting them.
Awaiting your reply, Pdfpdf 15:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
How remarkably sensible and logical of you! In principle I agree and support you; unfortunately, in practice, I have some problems ...
Cheers, Pdfpdf 15:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The simple answer would be to revert what you've done and leave it as it was!
(Yes, we call it a primary school.) (I'm a bit confused by your suggestion.)
What was wrong with "Schools in Adelaide"? (Or, if you prefer, "Schools in South Australia"?)
I'd be amazed if you didn't have schools in WA that weren't didn't educate students of both primary and secondary age. Certainly most private schools in "The East" do that too. How have you been handling them?
As I said before, changing "Schools in SA" to "Secondary schools in SA" is just plain wrong, and chaning it to two entries of "Primary schools in SA" and "Secondary schools in SA" isn't much better; it implies they are two schools, which they are not.
I can live with you changing "Schools in Adelaide" to "Schools in SA" if you must, but I don't see the value of changing one category into two categories, particularly when both are inaccurate descriptions of the situation!
So: "No, problem not solvered (yet)." Pdfpdf 16:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
OMG! This just gets more complicated as we go!
Remind me please: What was wrong with "Schools in Adelaide"/"Schools in SA"?
Pdfpdf
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In the bright light of a new day, I have broadened my POV, and have a broader understanding of what I think your POV is. In summary, I can live with the changes you've made. However, I do have some comments/questions:
OK? Cheers, Pdfpdf 00:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, there are many types of schools: eg. private, public, primary, secondary, boarding, religious (eg, christian brothers, anglican etc), single-sex (boys or girls). The bigger states will naturally have more sub cats. Have a look in "Schools in Australia", that has most of them. Twenty Years 01:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Pdfpdf 02:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Have at it (I gave it a semi=protection protect only as of now). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
The Categorys Newington College headmasters, Former Newington College teachers, Newington College headmasters & Old Newingtonians' Union presidents. Could any of these be deleted? ExtraDry 09:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
You just have to look at the contributions to see that they are not unsubstantiated. ExtraDry 11:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
lol the socks are trying to make it look like i work for the school in an effot to discredit me. ExtraDry 12:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
You have suggested lengthening other sections to make the IR Dispute section seem more in proportion with everything else. Well, all I can say is every effort I have made to improve and increase the Newington article has been derided by you as Newingtoncruft so you are asking a lot. You have very strong oipinions, Twenty, so tell me what you would like to see. Would you please place the outdated tag on the IR dispute as I don't know how to and if I do it it will be removed immediately by a disruptive editor. Mitchplusone 15:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
[3] Orderinchaos 11:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I have noted at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Adelaide#Category:Schools_in_Adelaide_has_been_emptied that you have emptied the category. You might want to comment there. Are you planning to purge the other school by city categories? Paul foord 06:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Robert J White (headmaster), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert J White (headmaster). Thank you. — Moondyne 05:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I think you've misunderstood the TFD outcome. The template was quite rightly deleted as we now know it was a contravention of Wikipedia policy. The closing admin commented:
"Associated with several schools, wide interest, notability of song", etc - this is a reason to have an article on the song…"
"relevant content for each article is decided mostly on its own merits.
"Schools in multiple countries probably do not make the school song any more or less notable. If it does then an article on the song, not a template on its lyrics, is the way to go."
My suggestion is entirely in accordance with the closing admin's comments. There is no need for such harassment. Dahliarose 12:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
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Hi. Whatever happened regarding the discussion over the merge of List of schools in Western Australia and List of schools in Perth, Western Australia? Looking at a number of lists in Category:Lists of schools in Australia I'm starting to wonder if most shouldn't be AfD'd per WP:NOT#DIRECTORY. I wondered what your thoughts were. — Moondyne 15:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Rather than dig a deeper hole for yourself, please slow down and deal with one at a time. If you are arguing for a merge (as you appear to be in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Government schools in New South Wales), then say so. Thats different to an AfD. — Moondyne 12:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC) I'm confused as to exactly what your intentions were and I now wish I'd been a bit firmer above in asking for some more discussion first. — Moondyne 12:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for sort of jumping on you at the discussion of these nominations. I guess the large number of noms lead to a bit of rush of blood. I think a couple of the articles in the mass nom actually need an individual AFD, eg List of schools in Victoria, Australia according to 2005 VCE results. Recurring dreams 10:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
At who has done a considerable amount of work on getting the 'project' up and running and work order for you - and for goodness sake show some sort of gratitude/thanks to those who do it - its one thing to have a bright idea - another to actually follow through. Satu Suro 02:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I've just been checking the updated school assessment log and I see that you're making good progress with the Ds. I note that you seem to have assessed a couple of articles as Bs without notifying the assessment page. In both cases these articles were lacking references and I've now downgraded them to starts. You need to make sure that all articles you rate as B or high are notified to the assessment page. Dahliarose 23:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
No worries. The stats bot has just run and the table is up to date. You could now look at Category:Unassessed Education in Australia articles if you like. — Moondyne 08:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
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I'm curious as to your rationale for this edit? CBC is a former (founding) PSA school and is discussed in the PSA article. — Moondyne 10:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the Barnstar. I hope my comments haven't made life too difficult for you. Just a thought but your local library should have a collection of local newspapers. It might be worth checking through these for the relevant dates (eg, the CBC split) to get a better perspective and get some further source material. These events would surely have attracted some major coverage at the time. Dahliarose 11:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello Twenty Years, thanks for commenting on the issue about which of these paragraphs to go with:
Could you tell me why you chose to stick with the shorter paragraph? Cheers Username nought 09:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC).
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I haven't left a barnstar on Wikipedia for a very long time. Sometimes when you are closely working with somebody you neglect to reward them for things that are really, really great. During my time on Wikipedia, I have seen you grow from a contributor who makes edits every now and then - almost solely contributing to Aquinas College, Perth to a wide PSA school scope. Recently I have stopped my contributions to PSA articles, for reasons both you and I know. I have realised my thank yous over the year you and I have been working together for have culminated in something a little larger. By comparison, you have probably been the editor I have worked with the most. I look forward to working with you in the future. Until then, here's a barnstar in recognition of your efforts in Australian schools articles. Soon enough, I hope to be joining your PSA watch you emailed me about. Thanks again, Auroranorth 09:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC) |
If the AFL grand final has a afl tag - I am curious why have a need to put the sports tag there as well? Satu Suro 11:13, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
As you are familiar with the procedure for deleting templates is there any chance you could nominate this one Template:Elementary school. It seems completely useless and no one is using it. Many thanks. Dahliarose 15:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Any thoughts on the current revisions and revert at Newington and on the alumni list. Mitchplusone 13:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Are you planning to remove all brother and sister schools from all articles and if so would you care to explain fully your reasoning behind this. Mitchplusone 13:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
It isn't that easy to re-instate the David Scott piece and the sections on sport and co-curricular activities with out hours of rewritng as there have been edits since - do you have any suggestions. I am also sure that no amount of explaining will satisfy ExtraDry who reverted them in the first place with the copyright expalnation. Hope you can help. Mitchplusone 14:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
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Hello Twenty Years, thanks for commenting on the issue about which of these paragraphs to go with:
Could you tell me why you chose to stick with the shorter paragraph? Cheers Username nought 09:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC).
Thanks for the help on the Emerson article! I had no idea how to add that flag, and as for the caption thing...it's a form field and I filled it out...sorry for the redundancy. Mike Searson 16:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, I guess they did not want the flag there as they took it back out. Thanks all the same! -- Mike Searson 19:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for the talk page help :) BTW I cleared out a few of your prods from last night because they were clear A7s in my view. Hope you're having a good night... I pulled an all nighter trying to get this assignment done. :| Orderinchaos 08:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey just had another look at the infobox for the Carmel Adventist College article and you are correct, it's an Aust Private School infobox. Many of the Adventist schools had weird infoboxes and I assumed when I looked at the way the logo had a box around it that it was one of them. Thanks for pointing it out! Loopla 09:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
You seem to be remotely active (well more so that the others on here anyway), im just after a few comments regarding my 3 requests on Moon's talk page (bottom). Many Thanks. Twenty Years 11:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Good point OIC - where is the problem - the thing is in Victoria is where the whole steiner thing is brewing - or the ABC religion report has been regularly reporting on the issue - its not just that either montessori or steiner schools are different - they also attract external interest as to their methods and rationales and approaches to primary education - and the dynamics as to how the different state departments of educations in australia cope with schools with 'difference' is intriguing when we lay claim to being a multicultural country (or did at some stage) - take the friends school as an example in hobart, tas - for instance. more off line latyer - cheers Satu Suro 03:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Apologies - gmail Satu Suro 23:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, TwentyYears. Please refer my user page (and note this suggestion is low priority). Powderbark2 03:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
That sounds good to me. — Moondyne 08:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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I think I don't agree with some of your recent changes, and thought I'd ask you before reverting them.
Awaiting your reply, Pdfpdf 15:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
How remarkably sensible and logical of you! In principle I agree and support you; unfortunately, in practice, I have some problems ...
Cheers, Pdfpdf 15:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The simple answer would be to revert what you've done and leave it as it was!
(Yes, we call it a primary school.) (I'm a bit confused by your suggestion.)
What was wrong with "Schools in Adelaide"? (Or, if you prefer, "Schools in South Australia"?)
I'd be amazed if you didn't have schools in WA that weren't didn't educate students of both primary and secondary age. Certainly most private schools in "The East" do that too. How have you been handling them?
As I said before, changing "Schools in SA" to "Secondary schools in SA" is just plain wrong, and chaning it to two entries of "Primary schools in SA" and "Secondary schools in SA" isn't much better; it implies they are two schools, which they are not.
I can live with you changing "Schools in Adelaide" to "Schools in SA" if you must, but I don't see the value of changing one category into two categories, particularly when both are inaccurate descriptions of the situation!
So: "No, problem not solvered (yet)." Pdfpdf 16:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
OMG! This just gets more complicated as we go!
Remind me please: What was wrong with "Schools in Adelaide"/"Schools in SA"?
Pdfpdf
16:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
In the bright light of a new day, I have broadened my POV, and have a broader understanding of what I think your POV is. In summary, I can live with the changes you've made. However, I do have some comments/questions:
OK? Cheers, Pdfpdf 00:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, there are many types of schools: eg. private, public, primary, secondary, boarding, religious (eg, christian brothers, anglican etc), single-sex (boys or girls). The bigger states will naturally have more sub cats. Have a look in "Schools in Australia", that has most of them. Twenty Years 01:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Pdfpdf 02:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Have at it (I gave it a semi=protection protect only as of now). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
The Categorys Newington College headmasters, Former Newington College teachers, Newington College headmasters & Old Newingtonians' Union presidents. Could any of these be deleted? ExtraDry 09:28, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
You just have to look at the contributions to see that they are not unsubstantiated. ExtraDry 11:54, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
lol the socks are trying to make it look like i work for the school in an effot to discredit me. ExtraDry 12:16, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
You have suggested lengthening other sections to make the IR Dispute section seem more in proportion with everything else. Well, all I can say is every effort I have made to improve and increase the Newington article has been derided by you as Newingtoncruft so you are asking a lot. You have very strong oipinions, Twenty, so tell me what you would like to see. Would you please place the outdated tag on the IR dispute as I don't know how to and if I do it it will be removed immediately by a disruptive editor. Mitchplusone 15:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
[3] Orderinchaos 11:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I have noted at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Adelaide#Category:Schools_in_Adelaide_has_been_emptied that you have emptied the category. You might want to comment there. Are you planning to purge the other school by city categories? Paul foord 06:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)