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I cleanup my talk page regularly, but still feel free to leave a message. Thanks =D Smbarnzy 16:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the information about Aquinas' sport history as successor to the CBC. I changed the Aquinas College, Perth Sport article along the lines of the main article. Maybe some more detailed information about the split could be added to the main article's history section? -- Huon 17:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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Ok they survived AfD with no consensus, this means they have issues and you've got the opportunity to try to address those issues and improve these articles. The most specific concern raise was notiability to over come this third party references need to be found, what this means is providing the source isnt the School or and organisation associated with the school(aka olq aquinians) then its third party.
The exceptions would be from Christian Brothers, PSA and Education Department which will need to be considered in context on a case by case basis. What this means is that WA newspapers, Sunday Times, other out of publication newspapers, Heritage Council, Historical Society, Government agencies (excluding ed dept) and Biographies by past students are good sources to be cited for information. Gnangarra 12:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, just thought I'd explain my "rm supercat" edits that are popping up all over your watchlist... I removed anything that was in "Private schools in Western Australia" from the generic "Schools in Western Australia". Ideally the latter category should not even exist and two categories "Private schools" and "Government schools" should come off Education in Western Australia... but that'll take a while to sort out :) Orderinchaos 02:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
PLease dont sort talk pages into sections as its best for new discussions to be at the end of the page, If discussions have been completed you should create archives. Also all discussions, etc on your talk page should also be archived. The only talk page discussions that can be deleted are are vandalism. Gnangarra 14:35, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I just saw your new references for Aquinas College, Perth and related articles. If I'm not mistaken, you added the very same references to some, possibly all, daughter articles, whether the daughter article has any connection to the reference or not. For example, I doubt that this PDF has any connection whatsoever to Aquinas College Perth Academic Studies. Besides, you seem not to be used to Wikipedia's reference methods - neither am I, but I'll use this opportunity for on-the-job training. I'll improve the main article, but I would ask you to have a look at the others and to remove from each those references which aren't related to the specific article. Yours, Huon 16:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Since its looking really good, I'll do another review tonight. Yet you could list at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Australia/Assessment#Requesting_an_assessment which is a good spot to get a fresh set of eyes on the article who'll have some general knowledge of Australian schooling. Alternatively you can also go to peer review where a Bot will check basic styling formats as per WP:STYLE, you also get an editor opinion but that doesnt always happen. Alternatively you can take the first plunge into the more formal reviews by listing at Good Articles Candidates, the review here is almost as critical as a WP:FA this process can be a duanting and generate a harsh comment, if you choose this path dont bite the reviewer they are only trying to help you improve the article according to agreed guidelines a positive review here means you can think about nominating it for WP:FA.
Appears as if this Gentleman, past student may warrant an article. This site http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/family_history/armed_services.html has available service records of all Australian servicemen during WWI available you mioght find some interesting information there. Gnangarra 11:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I finished the process for peer review you'll need to add this Wikipedia:Peer review/Aquinas College, Perth/archive4 page to your watch list as comment will occur tere, just be patient as it may take a couple days before any responses Gnangarra 22:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
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Hey i was wondering if you could AfD the "Aquinas College Perth Academic Studies" page - once you see it, you will realise why. Thanks =) Smbarnzy 03:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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What is your rationale for adding the other PSA schools to the AC category? Is that not what Category:Public Schools Association is for? — Moondyne 08:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't really like to see articles like Brad Hogg tagged into school categories like Category:Aquinas College, Perth. It somehow implies a more substantial link between the person and the school than mere high school attendance. Therefore I have created a subcategory Category:Former students of Aquinas College, Perth, and tagged all the biography articles into that. If I have incorrectly tagged in a founder or teacher or someone associated with the school in some other way, please revert them back into the school category. Hesperian 10:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Smbarnzy, I feel that you are missing the point about how categorisation works in wikipedia. Linking everything that has a mention in the article is not a good idea (eg, Kwinana Freeway, Mt Henry Bridge, Salter Point, TEE exam etc.) Where would you stop? The article itself contains links of loosely related articles in its verbage. Categories should contain articles which have a direct and unambiguous relation with the category name. Justin Langer is in Category:Australian cricketers because that's clear and precise. It's a bit hard to explain, but believe me, less is more in this case. — Moondyne 13:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I am very sorry but I am at a loss why a highway is attached with a school category? - it really is inappropriate! SatuSuro 12:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, I was sorry notice that you are unhappy with your peer review process. Your article was one of the first to be supported by the new WP:WA. I had left a few comments on the talk page, eg.
From the talk page;
I was reluctant to change anything myself, you have put so much work in. It will surely be G/A before long.
I will have another look tomorrow and give further suggestions. I'm sure the well regarded and more experienced editors who have contacted you already can help you improve this article or renew the Australian project review process. Regards, Fred 15:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
and count to ten.
Things have happened while you've been gone.
Hesperian 11:30, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
No, I meant how much the college charges students for tuition etc. Sorry for not being clearer. — Moondyne 14:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Everything you write in wikipedia is alway there - it is impossible to remove - so when you continue to use swear words on talk pages - you might find that you will not get very far with some things! Try to moderate your language - regardless of your feelings. Also biting admins is a bit like saying you want to leave wikipedia - if you listen to them - you might learn something. Biting and swearing on wikipedia will not win you friends! SatuSuro 14:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Probably right? I have three teenager children and would not let them speak to me like that. SatuSuro 14:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
After reading the section in question - ouch! If you want to get blocked you're going the right way about it. :/ I would agree with Satu's comments above - you should remove the section (he can still read it anyway if he really wants to, it's in his history) and apologise to him. Going off like that may be acceptable in some quarters but is looked down upon heavily here, it's seen as abuse - I know that you feel very strongly about the issues behind this, but you should avoid taking it personally, or taking it out on bystanders (he actually voted "weak keep" on your pages and provided a possible reliable source you could link, it was someone else who nominated them). At the end of the day all of us are here for the same reason, and that is to improve the encyclopaedia. I hope that you choose not to leave, and instead look to find ways of dealing with your Wikistress(tm) more constructively. Orderinchaos 15:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Was that your first stubbie? Does your mother know you are out? Fred 16:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Full response when I have time to read your entire message.
Very brief response now: you've misunderstood my role in this.
I did not nominate any of your articles for AfD. In fact, I don't think I've ever nominated any article for AfD. I prefer to work through friendly discussion rather than formal channels.
I deleted one of your articles, which was a copyright violation. I was obliged to delete it for legal reasons. I stand by that. And I was nice enough to email you the text so that you can fix it up offline then re-post it.
Someone else, not me, nominated all the other articles for AfD. I noticed that someone else had nominated them, and was nice enough to let you know.
This is exactly what I was talking about. You're flying off the handle at me just because I was nice enough to let you know that someone else had nominated your articles for deletion. I know it's a stressful situation for you, but if you can't restrain yourself from acting the goat, you should take a break for a while.
Hesperian 01:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, if you follow through with your stated (but struck out) intention to disrupt Wikipedia in order to defeat the consensus, then I will block you.
Secondly, yes, Gnangarra is an excellent admin. And so is PDH, who nominated your articles for AfD. One of the very best. I assure you she wouldn't nominate an article for deletion in order to raise her delete count. And besides, the delete will go on the count of whoever closes the AfD, not who opened it.
This may come as a surprise to you, but administration is not a popularity contest.
Thirdly, as I said above, it was PDH, not me, who nominated your articles for deletion. Feel free to politely suggest to her that she should have discussed it with you, and ask her why she didn't. But - listen carefully - I don't much care that you unleashed a tirade of abuse and profanity on my talk page, but I will not tolerate you doing the same to PDH. It is not acceptable.
Four: I would have no objection to you merging all the PSA sport articles into Sport in the Public Schools Association. But I can't speak on behalf of anyone else here, so I can't guarantee that such an article wouldn't be nominated for deletion. After all, these AfD's have nothing to do with me.
Fifth: Moondyne and I have both told you that you don't understand how the category system works. Is that so hard to believe?
Okay, so Trinity and Aquinas are "like brothers". I don't dispute that. But that's not what the category system is for. South Australia and Western Australia are like brothers too, but I haven't seen anyone put South Australia into Category:Western Australia lately. Banksia aquilonia and Banksia integrifolia are like brothers but I don't see anyone putting Banksia aquilonia into Category:Banksia integrifolia either.
Okay, so all these articles are relevant to the Aquinas page. So what? - "relevant" is not what the category system is for. As I've already said, it is for "is a part of" or "is a member of" relationships.
"PSA makes up part of Aquinas" is just a ridiculous thing to say. You know very well that Aquinas is a member of the PSA, rather than the other way around.
Sixth: I couldn't care less about Scotch College. If you genuinely think the Scotch College houses article doesn't belong on Wikipedia, then nominate it for deletion. If you think the existence of a Scotch College houses article is a good argument for keeping the Aquinas houses article, then bring it up at the AfD discussion. Really, this AfD has nothing to do with me, so stop attacking me and go punch a pillow or something.
Hesperian 04:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey Barnzy,
I'm currently on the gold coast however, I shall take the pictures and have them up by the time I am back on tuesday
sorry I haven't already done them, :] symode09 07:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
You have shown character by apologising to Hesperian.
You should find his comments helpful and carefully thought out.
Good luck with the article. Fred 15:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
BTW re archiving - what you do is create a subpage like say User talk:Smbarnzy/Archive 1, and copy and paste the contents of your talk page there. When you remove them from here, put an edit summary indicating it's been archived, just so people don't think you're blanking your talk page for the hell of it.
Then on your main talk page you just put near or at the top: {{subst:Archive box|[[/Archive 1]]}} which will then point to it. At a later stage when you want to make a second archive you just have to duplicate a line and change the details, it's really easy.
Feel free once that's done to blatantly copy my archive setup if you wish :) I ripped most of mine from others anyway. In particular you want something up the top of the archive page to say that it's an archive and not to edit it, and whack it in the category Category:User archives. (see User talk:Orderinchaos/Archive 1). Note that Hesperian has done his differently again - that also works. Any questions (I'm in half sleep mode so am not at my clearest) just ask. Orderinchaos 16:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
We r so close to getting Aquinas College, Perth to an A rated article. when my friend created this article and the Mount Henry Peninsula article we were aiming of course to make them featured articles, and we r close, but we need to extend the paragraphs that is pretty much all, and mabey merge some of those sub pages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yungur ( talk • contribs) 04:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
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I cleanup my talk page regularly, but still feel free to leave a message. Thanks =D Smbarnzy 16:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the information about Aquinas' sport history as successor to the CBC. I changed the Aquinas College, Perth Sport article along the lines of the main article. Maybe some more detailed information about the split could be added to the main article's history section? -- Huon 17:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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Ok they survived AfD with no consensus, this means they have issues and you've got the opportunity to try to address those issues and improve these articles. The most specific concern raise was notiability to over come this third party references need to be found, what this means is providing the source isnt the School or and organisation associated with the school(aka olq aquinians) then its third party.
The exceptions would be from Christian Brothers, PSA and Education Department which will need to be considered in context on a case by case basis. What this means is that WA newspapers, Sunday Times, other out of publication newspapers, Heritage Council, Historical Society, Government agencies (excluding ed dept) and Biographies by past students are good sources to be cited for information. Gnangarra 12:19, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, just thought I'd explain my "rm supercat" edits that are popping up all over your watchlist... I removed anything that was in "Private schools in Western Australia" from the generic "Schools in Western Australia". Ideally the latter category should not even exist and two categories "Private schools" and "Government schools" should come off Education in Western Australia... but that'll take a while to sort out :) Orderinchaos 02:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
PLease dont sort talk pages into sections as its best for new discussions to be at the end of the page, If discussions have been completed you should create archives. Also all discussions, etc on your talk page should also be archived. The only talk page discussions that can be deleted are are vandalism. Gnangarra 14:35, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I just saw your new references for Aquinas College, Perth and related articles. If I'm not mistaken, you added the very same references to some, possibly all, daughter articles, whether the daughter article has any connection to the reference or not. For example, I doubt that this PDF has any connection whatsoever to Aquinas College Perth Academic Studies. Besides, you seem not to be used to Wikipedia's reference methods - neither am I, but I'll use this opportunity for on-the-job training. I'll improve the main article, but I would ask you to have a look at the others and to remove from each those references which aren't related to the specific article. Yours, Huon 16:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Since its looking really good, I'll do another review tonight. Yet you could list at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Australia/Assessment#Requesting_an_assessment which is a good spot to get a fresh set of eyes on the article who'll have some general knowledge of Australian schooling. Alternatively you can also go to peer review where a Bot will check basic styling formats as per WP:STYLE, you also get an editor opinion but that doesnt always happen. Alternatively you can take the first plunge into the more formal reviews by listing at Good Articles Candidates, the review here is almost as critical as a WP:FA this process can be a duanting and generate a harsh comment, if you choose this path dont bite the reviewer they are only trying to help you improve the article according to agreed guidelines a positive review here means you can think about nominating it for WP:FA.
Appears as if this Gentleman, past student may warrant an article. This site http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/family_history/armed_services.html has available service records of all Australian servicemen during WWI available you mioght find some interesting information there. Gnangarra 11:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
I finished the process for peer review you'll need to add this Wikipedia:Peer review/Aquinas College, Perth/archive4 page to your watch list as comment will occur tere, just be patient as it may take a couple days before any responses Gnangarra 22:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
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Hey i was wondering if you could AfD the "Aquinas College Perth Academic Studies" page - once you see it, you will realise why. Thanks =) Smbarnzy 03:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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What is your rationale for adding the other PSA schools to the AC category? Is that not what Category:Public Schools Association is for? — Moondyne 08:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't really like to see articles like Brad Hogg tagged into school categories like Category:Aquinas College, Perth. It somehow implies a more substantial link between the person and the school than mere high school attendance. Therefore I have created a subcategory Category:Former students of Aquinas College, Perth, and tagged all the biography articles into that. If I have incorrectly tagged in a founder or teacher or someone associated with the school in some other way, please revert them back into the school category. Hesperian 10:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Smbarnzy, I feel that you are missing the point about how categorisation works in wikipedia. Linking everything that has a mention in the article is not a good idea (eg, Kwinana Freeway, Mt Henry Bridge, Salter Point, TEE exam etc.) Where would you stop? The article itself contains links of loosely related articles in its verbage. Categories should contain articles which have a direct and unambiguous relation with the category name. Justin Langer is in Category:Australian cricketers because that's clear and precise. It's a bit hard to explain, but believe me, less is more in this case. — Moondyne 13:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I am very sorry but I am at a loss why a highway is attached with a school category? - it really is inappropriate! SatuSuro 12:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, I was sorry notice that you are unhappy with your peer review process. Your article was one of the first to be supported by the new WP:WA. I had left a few comments on the talk page, eg.
From the talk page;
I was reluctant to change anything myself, you have put so much work in. It will surely be G/A before long.
I will have another look tomorrow and give further suggestions. I'm sure the well regarded and more experienced editors who have contacted you already can help you improve this article or renew the Australian project review process. Regards, Fred 15:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
and count to ten.
Things have happened while you've been gone.
Hesperian 11:30, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
No, I meant how much the college charges students for tuition etc. Sorry for not being clearer. — Moondyne 14:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Everything you write in wikipedia is alway there - it is impossible to remove - so when you continue to use swear words on talk pages - you might find that you will not get very far with some things! Try to moderate your language - regardless of your feelings. Also biting admins is a bit like saying you want to leave wikipedia - if you listen to them - you might learn something. Biting and swearing on wikipedia will not win you friends! SatuSuro 14:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Probably right? I have three teenager children and would not let them speak to me like that. SatuSuro 14:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
After reading the section in question - ouch! If you want to get blocked you're going the right way about it. :/ I would agree with Satu's comments above - you should remove the section (he can still read it anyway if he really wants to, it's in his history) and apologise to him. Going off like that may be acceptable in some quarters but is looked down upon heavily here, it's seen as abuse - I know that you feel very strongly about the issues behind this, but you should avoid taking it personally, or taking it out on bystanders (he actually voted "weak keep" on your pages and provided a possible reliable source you could link, it was someone else who nominated them). At the end of the day all of us are here for the same reason, and that is to improve the encyclopaedia. I hope that you choose not to leave, and instead look to find ways of dealing with your Wikistress(tm) more constructively. Orderinchaos 15:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Was that your first stubbie? Does your mother know you are out? Fred 16:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Full response when I have time to read your entire message.
Very brief response now: you've misunderstood my role in this.
I did not nominate any of your articles for AfD. In fact, I don't think I've ever nominated any article for AfD. I prefer to work through friendly discussion rather than formal channels.
I deleted one of your articles, which was a copyright violation. I was obliged to delete it for legal reasons. I stand by that. And I was nice enough to email you the text so that you can fix it up offline then re-post it.
Someone else, not me, nominated all the other articles for AfD. I noticed that someone else had nominated them, and was nice enough to let you know.
This is exactly what I was talking about. You're flying off the handle at me just because I was nice enough to let you know that someone else had nominated your articles for deletion. I know it's a stressful situation for you, but if you can't restrain yourself from acting the goat, you should take a break for a while.
Hesperian 01:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Firstly, if you follow through with your stated (but struck out) intention to disrupt Wikipedia in order to defeat the consensus, then I will block you.
Secondly, yes, Gnangarra is an excellent admin. And so is PDH, who nominated your articles for AfD. One of the very best. I assure you she wouldn't nominate an article for deletion in order to raise her delete count. And besides, the delete will go on the count of whoever closes the AfD, not who opened it.
This may come as a surprise to you, but administration is not a popularity contest.
Thirdly, as I said above, it was PDH, not me, who nominated your articles for deletion. Feel free to politely suggest to her that she should have discussed it with you, and ask her why she didn't. But - listen carefully - I don't much care that you unleashed a tirade of abuse and profanity on my talk page, but I will not tolerate you doing the same to PDH. It is not acceptable.
Four: I would have no objection to you merging all the PSA sport articles into Sport in the Public Schools Association. But I can't speak on behalf of anyone else here, so I can't guarantee that such an article wouldn't be nominated for deletion. After all, these AfD's have nothing to do with me.
Fifth: Moondyne and I have both told you that you don't understand how the category system works. Is that so hard to believe?
Okay, so Trinity and Aquinas are "like brothers". I don't dispute that. But that's not what the category system is for. South Australia and Western Australia are like brothers too, but I haven't seen anyone put South Australia into Category:Western Australia lately. Banksia aquilonia and Banksia integrifolia are like brothers but I don't see anyone putting Banksia aquilonia into Category:Banksia integrifolia either.
Okay, so all these articles are relevant to the Aquinas page. So what? - "relevant" is not what the category system is for. As I've already said, it is for "is a part of" or "is a member of" relationships.
"PSA makes up part of Aquinas" is just a ridiculous thing to say. You know very well that Aquinas is a member of the PSA, rather than the other way around.
Sixth: I couldn't care less about Scotch College. If you genuinely think the Scotch College houses article doesn't belong on Wikipedia, then nominate it for deletion. If you think the existence of a Scotch College houses article is a good argument for keeping the Aquinas houses article, then bring it up at the AfD discussion. Really, this AfD has nothing to do with me, so stop attacking me and go punch a pillow or something.
Hesperian 04:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey Barnzy,
I'm currently on the gold coast however, I shall take the pictures and have them up by the time I am back on tuesday
sorry I haven't already done them, :] symode09 07:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
You have shown character by apologising to Hesperian.
You should find his comments helpful and carefully thought out.
Good luck with the article. Fred 15:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
BTW re archiving - what you do is create a subpage like say User talk:Smbarnzy/Archive 1, and copy and paste the contents of your talk page there. When you remove them from here, put an edit summary indicating it's been archived, just so people don't think you're blanking your talk page for the hell of it.
Then on your main talk page you just put near or at the top: {{subst:Archive box|[[/Archive 1]]}} which will then point to it. At a later stage when you want to make a second archive you just have to duplicate a line and change the details, it's really easy.
Feel free once that's done to blatantly copy my archive setup if you wish :) I ripped most of mine from others anyway. In particular you want something up the top of the archive page to say that it's an archive and not to edit it, and whack it in the category Category:User archives. (see User talk:Orderinchaos/Archive 1). Note that Hesperian has done his differently again - that also works. Any questions (I'm in half sleep mode so am not at my clearest) just ask. Orderinchaos 16:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
We r so close to getting Aquinas College, Perth to an A rated article. when my friend created this article and the Mount Henry Peninsula article we were aiming of course to make them featured articles, and we r close, but we need to extend the paragraphs that is pretty much all, and mabey merge some of those sub pages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yungur ( talk • contribs) 04:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC).