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Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

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See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron ( talk), via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi there! I wanted to ask what you think of giving me an additional few hundred words on my AE statement. Given the large number of allegations made, including new allegations introduced by BilledMammal which I disagree with, I do not think I can manage with the 500 word limit. JDiala ( talk) 04:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC) reply

In fact, after some thought, I will voluntarily withdraw this request. I don't expect the additional words to make a decisive difference, and I think the way the 500-limit is set up is very logical to avoid excessive verbosity by all parties. Thank you for your feedback on the AE. JDiala ( talk) 08:30, 4 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Got it. Please note for the future, word extensions should be requested on the AE thread itself. That keeps everything together in one place and improves transparency. The Wordsmith ^{Talk to me} 00:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you for contributing to the AE. Would you mind telling me which are malformed for you? Mobile diffs can be a bit difficult, I’m happy to try and fix them. FortunateSons ( talk) 05:57, 4 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Diffs 2 and 7 seem to link to threads that were deleted or archived, rather than the archived discussion or the actual diff. The mobile site and Minerva skin can be really finicky for editing, especially for getting diffs. I'm usually on desktop, but for those times when I'm using a phone or tablet for editing I override the mobile skin from my Preferences. Monobook is actually good and readable even on a cell phone. Not as good as it is on desktop, but still surprising for a skin that's older than smartphones. The Wordsmith ^{Talk to me} 00:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC) reply

2.: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JDiala#Zionist_narrative doesn’t seem to work, no matter how much I try; could it have something to do with the fact that the title is surrounded by ""?

7.: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive362#RfC closure review request at Talk:Israel#RfC: Apartheid in Lead now links to the right place for me, so I’ll replace that if it does for you as well.

Monobook is a good recommendation, I’ll look into it, thank you. FortunateSons ( talk) 09:40, 5 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Yes, the quotes need to be part of it. /info/en/?search=User_talk:JDiala#%22Zionist_narrative%22 is what I got from grabbing the link on the desktop version, that seems to get me to the right place. Another reason that it's often easier to grab the specific diffs, with the added benefit of being a permanent link that won't change when the original thread gets archived. The Wordsmith ^{Talk to me} 15:56, 5 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Thank you, I will include them!

That’s a good idea for next time; however, this editor does not archive their talk page afaik, so the harm is limited here, right? FortunateSons ( talk) 16:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC) reply

True, but he could always set one up later as his talkpage grows. I wouldn't call it "harm", I just try to get in the habit of sticking to best practices. The Wordsmith ^{Talk to me} 16:40, 5 June 2024 (UTC) reply

That’s true, I’ll try to do that in the future, thanks. FortunateSons ( talk) 16:46, 5 June 2024 (UTC) reply

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Thank you for your significant effort in reviewing part of the long, long, ADL RFC and its close review. starship .paint ( RUN) 06:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Seconded! Chetsford ( talk) 08:05, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Hey! Tamzin and I were in the process of working on a close of part 2, but it seems like you've overwritten our tag here. If you'd like, you're welcome to join us and we can all close both parts 2 and 3 within a day or two. Let me know, thanks :) theleekycauldron ( talk • she/her) 06:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Hey, I think that was an edit conflict because I started reading and marking it as Closing then got distracted. Sure, I'm happy to work on a joint close with the both of you. The Wordsmith ^{Talk to me} 06:52, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Hi, I've posted an ANI discussion about the closure of parts two and three of RFC: The Anti-Defamation League at Wikipedia:Administrators_noticeboard/Incidents#Contested RfC Close. I am an unpaid consultant to the ADL and was only made aware of these discussions last night. Best, Ed BC1278 ( talk) 21:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Just as an FYI: This comment by an ADL rep. Abecedare ( talk) 21:16, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Noted, thank you! The Wordsmith ^{Talk to me} 22:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC) reply

		The Barnstar of Diplomacy
		For an adroit close on a complex RfC Chetsford ( talk) 06:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your close! VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 18:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

		The Closer's Barnstar
		For your diplomacy and effort in taking the lead to close the ADL RfC, as well as collaboration with others to achieve this. CNC ( talk) 14:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

A rouge TARDIS (or the closest thing I could find on Commons), for having made a closure so Rouge that its effects travelled through time and were being challenged before you even issued it. . . . But to be serious, I appreciate that you undertook to close, and closed so thoughtfully, such a large and complex discussion even as it was getting international attention and pushback. Someone had to do it; the discussion was open for so long as to suggest no-one wanted to do it; I appreciate you doing it. -sche ( talk) 16:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

@ -sche, CommunityNotesContributor, Chetsford, and Starship.paint: Thank you for the kind words, I'm just glad the discussion is finished and we can move on (at least until the next challenge). I'm sure co-closers Tamzin and Theleekycauldron feel the same way. If you've got any recommendations for something more fun to read than that RFC (admittedly not a high bar) I could use a palate cleanser. Otherwise I think I'll pick up The Hobbit again. The Wordsmith ^{Talk to me} 18:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

The Hobbit sounds like a great palate cleanser! I was reading his Sea-Bell the other day and learning about the neat words Tolkien coined or resurrected in that and other writings (which might interest you, as a wordsmith, if you don't know them already), like ruel-bone and wikt:eucatastrophe. :o -sche ( talk) 21:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC) reply

You are welcome, the Wordsmith.... Project Hail Mary. starship .paint ( RUN) 01:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks, I just bought it for my Kindle. The Wordsmith ^{Talk to me} 00:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Jews should get to define antisemitism — not racist narcissists who are offended that the vast majority of Jews in the world say that antizionism is almost always antisemitism.

And to do it at a time when antisemitism has enflamed by antisemitism is a real dirtbag move.

May you reap the hate you've sown. Quickrunfast ( talk) 03:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Quickrunfast: - seems like the only hate is from your message. Besides, at least one of the three final closers is Jewish. starship .paint ( RUN) 11:59, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

I have a question for you regarding the ADL RfC close. I think that's a good close and I'm not challenging it by any means, but merely trying to further my understanding of policy. (As you can see my !vote aligns with your closure).

I understand your initial close except the part about why the fact that ADL is an advocacy group is relevant, and how do we define "advocacy" in contrast to "bias" and "conflict of interest"? Advocacy groups are absolutely biased, but that doesn't make a source unreliable. Is it that being an advocacy group creates a type of conflict of interest? Or is there another reason why being an advocacy group is a detriment to one's reliability? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 18:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Being an advocacy group isn't necessarily disqualifying (since they also publish research and factual claims), but it is something that should be considered when citing statements of fact as opposed to WP:RSOPINION. In this case, consensus was that the pro-Israel advocacy led to the ADL redefining pro-Palestinian demonstrations as antisemitism, making their statistics on antisemitic incidents in the context of Israel/Palestine not just biased but misleading or false. In other words, it isn't necessarily the bias but the inaccurate statements caused by that bias. The Wordsmith ^{Talk to me} 23:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply

		The Admin's Barnstar
		I stated in the discussion below the vote that I felt quite bad for whichever poor admin got tasked with closing the ADL RfC - props for being one of the ones to do so! The Kip ( contribs) 21:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC) reply