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Good evening Excirial,
I am annoyed and a little angry.
Up until this evening, I had thought that one's sandbox was a private space. Then this happened – somebody that I had never even heard of before now. I feel invaded. Kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones ( talk) 20:12, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing and creating my article peripheral subgroup. I hope people like it and improve it. -- Gallusgallus ( talk) 21:34, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
The reliability of my sources has been questioned. I am the ultimately "reliable source" on croquet, and beyond myself, the sources for information are first-hand.
In the space at the bottom of the page, I identified myself as the editor and founder of Croquet World Online Magazine, www.CroquetWorld.com, which is the sole independent worldwide magazine for the sport of croquet. I have been publishing CROQUET WORLD for 17 years. It is cited often in mainstream media as the primary source for much that is reported on the sport. Very seldom does Newsweek or CBS or other major media report on croquet without consulting me at some point, often to ask for additional references or photos.
In addition I have published books on croquet for the US Croquet Association, and I consult with all the US croquet organizations, including the Croquet Foundation of America. My background includes organizing the San Francsico Croquet Club in the 80's as the first two-lawn public facility for croquet in the U.S. I then wrote a three-volume series on CLUB BUILDING AND MANAGEMENT.
All the facts have been gotten from FIRST-HAND SOURCES in the Croquet Foundation of America, including the president of the organization, David McCoy. His email address is McCoy1165@aol.com. He will confirm the reliability of Bob Alman as a source and the accuracy of the information in the entry.
My "objectivity" has been questioned. Perhaps it's because I said the National Croquet Center is the largest and finest in the world of croquet? It is, without question. I cited the acreage and the square footage of the building and its architechtural type and characteristics, without using "peacock" adjectives. If you need another source to check this or any of the facts or characterizations, let me know how I can help you find it.
I am the founding editor of www.Croquetworld.com and several other websites. I am a trained journalist, writer, and editor. I am also something of a techno-phobe. So I do apologize if I'm missing something here in the process. (I have a webmaster and layout editor to handle these things for me on CROQUET WORLD.) I am following directions here by rote, the same way I edited (successfully, it appears) the page CROQUET HALL OF FAME a few days ago.
Please help me through this process!
Bob Alman, Editor CROQUET WORLD ONLINE MAGAZINE www.CroquetWorld.com RealitySports ( talk) 21:29, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
HI, Excirial
The reason The Raddigan Brothers Noise Experience page was made was to link it with The Silence and the Serenity band/music page, after the page was edited by Phil Bartsch the drummer of both of the bands that have Wikipedia pages.
2/3 of The Raddigan Bros. are the founding members of Bless the Fallen, and The Silence and the Serenity. The Raddigan Bros. haven't had too much publicity as of yet but have picked up a lot of speed in the last year and are starting to get recognition in local newspapers and Punk Zines. and have played many shows in the Tri-State Area. There were a few reputable references to cite information from, and The Silence and The Serenity. And there are some reviews and feed back from the last album that are still to be added.
Thank You for reading. The Raddigan Bros. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.50.175.162 ( talk) 00:37, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Excirial,
thank you for your reply. Please, can you specify the passages in text, where more reliable sources will be necessary? As an example, the introduction: Who else but the company itself can provide information about financial figures or the number of employees? Regarding history, i think we agree to each other, that no free newspaper or the like would publish a whole company history. Nevertheless Hoerbiger Holding should not only have a record in German Wikipedia, because the group has thousands of workers round the globe who only speak English.
So can you help me and tell, which sources would find your acceptance?
Thank you in advance!
Direct link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Hoerbiger_Holding_AG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr John Miller ( talk • contribs) 10:41, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi thank you for your help with this I was just curious how I can write a biography page and meet your neutral terms. I am open to suggestion..and very appreciated Thank you Ted — Preceding unsigned comment added by TKPBOK ( talk • contribs) 19:39, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Greetings, Kingdom Asventism belongs to Steve Daily and is the author of the site, Also his book Kingdom Adventism is on Amazon. I may have misunderstood, the copywrite rules but the Steve Daily is the owner that is why I referenced it. Thank you, please explain what I can do to include Kingdom Adventism on the Steve Daily submittal. Again, Thank you.
Here is a look with Steve Daily > http://kingdomadventism.com/?page_id=2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dailyrevival ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello,
I have created an article 'Kristina Galea' and it was not accepted. What should I do please? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovemcfly ( talk • contribs) 10:32, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
I am trying to create the page Amelkis SAS, I have attempted to be objective, however obviously i have not been enough. Could you kindly recommend on any standing out major issues with the post which i can amend in order to have a solid article?
i have tried to create the article following a similar patter as ' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_AG' and ' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_Group' which are two firms in the industry.
Any help would be highly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jciniamelkis ( talk • contribs) 11:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello there,
Many thanks for reviewing the article I submitted on Medic to Medic! It seems I have come across the common problem of copyright meaning my page was deleted. Two things I would appreciate your feedback on are: 1. How can I best make sure that what I have written won't be deleted again? It was not clear to me which parts of the article were unacceptable and would like to rectify that. 2. I've tried saving my edits but I come across a message saying: "This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. 20:47, 12 July 2012 Selket (talk | contribs) deleted page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Medic to Medic (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement)"
As I am new to wikipedia, I am not entirely sure what I am being asked or how to continue editing my article for re-submission. Hope you can help.
Thanks! Teresa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teresa Due ( talk • contribs) 13:30, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello Excirial, thank you for your review of mine Remote Support submission, and let me say that in fact there is an overlap with desktop sharing. However, it's not correct to say that remote support is possible due to desktop sharing - its the other way around (and that's exactly why I felt the need to write this submission). It's perfectly possible to provide remote support without using desktop sharing; desktop sharing is just one of many possibilities. For instance, you can provide remote support just by using command lines (powershell), thus solving the issue without ever seeing or sharing the client's desktop.
Long story short, desktop sharing its an IT tool used by remote support services, but not the only one. Remote Support is much more than that. Please take this in consideration and let me know what I must do to make my article approved.
Best regards, Gonçalo Filipe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonzalix ( talk • contribs) 08:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
You declined Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/John Gledden twice for a lack of reliable sources. The author asked about the rationale on the help desk. I'll reply and address some issues with the articles, but since the article gives as sources several newspaper and magazine articles and some BBC and Radio Sheffield radio coverage, it does not seem to lack reliable sources, and I believe the lack of inline citations on its own is not supposed to be a reason to decline a submission. Could you please explain your rationale at the help desk? Huon ( talk) 14:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial-
This is in regards to the decline of my submission: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/NYC Outward Bound Schools. The reasoning given was that it wasn't written in an encyclopedic tone, didn't use unbiased sources, and used value-laden language (my wording, as I can't find the decline page right now!). I'm hoping you can help me by giving me a few specific lines and/or particularly problematic sections? I've used 28 published references in the article, including 3 New York Times articles, a New York Times Magazine article, a New York Observer article, a New York Post article, 2 Newsday articles, a Miami Herald article, several articles from academic journals, and several books from established publishers like Teachers College Press, Public Affairs Books, and Middle Atlantic Press.
There are about 3 sections where I try to describe the organization's mission, values, goals and results, and I will admit that it was harder there to keep an encyclopedic tone. In the few places where assertions are made without references, I've tried to qualify the language using terms like "The organization espouses a goal of doing XYZ" rather than "The organization delivers quality educational experiences", etc. And I have really tried to not use superlatives and value-charged adjectives. Can you please give me some sections and examples for me to look at and suggestions for how to improve?
Thanks, Carol NYCOBuser NYCOBuser ( talk) 21:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Copied from the Article's for creation helpdesk.
I recently created an article which was not accepted because it contained copyrighted information. I am not sure what the violation was. Could you explain? I am new at this. The article was to be entitled 'Melvyn Goodale' or Melvyn A. Goodale'
This is the message I received:
Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. The submission has not been accepted because it included copyrighted information, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work.
If you would like to continue working on the submission, you can find it at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Melvyn A. Goodale. To edit the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the help desk, via real time chat with helpers, or on the reviewer's talk page. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia!
Alan thistle ( talk) 17:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Exciral,
Thank you so much for your response.
Since I own a PR firm am I banned from writing articles for Wikipedia? I took an interest in Kreemo because of what they represent, not because of a paid relationship. They are college students in Atlanta where I live and I respect 21 year old college students who generate millions of dollars of revenue while in school. When I met them I was in awe that they didn't have a page, that's why I submitted a request for one. I had a Wikipedia account long before I met them.
I do think that since I own a PR firm, my tone tends to be corporate in format...LOL I'm guilty there. Please let me know if publicists are banned from writing articles. I hope that's not the case. I work with celebrities but I don't know them all or have personal relationships with them.
Thank you so much :-) Clorissawright ( talk) 15:13, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Do I need reliable sources to post my company page if its just informational? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.116.127 ( talk) 20:33, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for your excellent reviewing at AfC! SwisterTwister talk 02:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC) |
Hello,
You recently reviewed an article I have been working on about Matthew 25: Ministries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Matthew_25:_Ministries. You told me that the article reads like an advertisement and not like an encyclopedia. I was told this once before and was told to make it more dry. I thought I had removed any flowery wording and felt I added enough outside, reliable sources to back up the information. I have been declined several times and am doing my best to rectify each problem. I was wondering if you could give me some specific examples of where the article gives an advertisement feel and how I might fix that? It is not my intention to create an advertisement I just want to provide information on the organization. Should I remove all links to the organization's website? These are in place simply to provide the most updated information of the given topic; however, if they are the reason for the advertisement feel then I can certainly remove them. Again, if you can please give me some examples of advertisement and how I could go about fixing that I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for your time. Joodia ( talk) 19:53, 13 July 2012 (UTC)Joodia
Excirial,
I felt the page I submitted is covered by the notability statute in as much as the art for videogame packages were only actually PAINTED ( caps for emphasis Excirial...not emotion, honest) for a very finite amount of time. That window covered the very early games wherein the pixelated characters were so primitive as to actually require definition by an outside source, ie: the illustrator. This was processed in creative meetings between game developers and illustrators for the purposes of packaging and selling the product.
There occurred over the ensuing 20 years (1980- 2000) an actual crossing point, where the skills of the artists melded into the technical: Going from the hand drawn and hand painted; into the Photoshop end cg world, while the skills (and more importantly, the hardware and software) of the programmers began to accelerate more and more quickly into cg realms that no longer required definition by an outside agent, again, the illustrator.
At that point illustrations began to be extracted from the actual game employees, ie: programmers and animators, and the old line concept of ILLUSTRATING COVERS BY HAND AS PAINTINGS DISAPPEARED.
Make no mistake, the illustrations used today for gaming are far advanced over the work my compatriots and myself used to produce, but here is the telling issue: TANGIBLE PAINTED ILLUSTRATIONS ARE DISAPPEARING. Today I work in Photoshop. I send my files to clients as data.
And this is not only true in gaming, but in all walks of illustration. IF I were to walk into a design firm today with a painting under my arm, my clients would literally not KNOW what to do with it.
By naming my entry 'retro videogame artist', my example presents a notable milestone regarding the demise of the physical painting in the illustration world. Should I perhaps describe more fully the loss of hand painting and tangible paintings?
The Notability is this: While computer gaming gave illustration a great boost in 1980, within the technology itself, were the seeds that ended illustration as it had been known since the dawn of civilization. There are no longer physically extant paintings being done for the illustration market as we know it, outside of boutique editorial applications.
Additionally many of the companies and personalities I mention already have Wiki entries: Broderbund. The Carlston family. Kieth Zabalauie, Ed Rains, Activision, Sega, and many many of the games I illustrated can be found in Wikipedia, and many of my original illustrations are found there in graphic manner as well.
Further, can you let me know how to use sources not indicated in your sourcing drop down menu (journals-web-papers-books)? Things like military records, DD-214 etc.? Or college records for graduation and degrees, etc?
Wow! ...Thanks for the time, I appreciate all your efforts with wiki. It's a fantastic tool and platform for the new world in which we live.---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by C0martman ( talk • contribs) 23:19, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial,
it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Web_Coverage_Processing_Service again: think I have learnt that standards texts cannot be quoted, so I have rewritten the passages I believe have offended review. Can we give it another try please?
Thanks for your patience, Pebau.grandauer ( talk) 14:39, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Hiyas there Mabdul,
Another suggestion right on your talk page rather then on the dev page (O well) for AFCH. I was thinking that it might be an idea to have an extra option in AFCH that allows one to mark a page as potentially high quality for Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts, just in case the creator abandons it. It would mean less sifting trough old stuff, and allow one to keep a backlog of promising pages. I was thinking about a template on the page, but it may be easier to let AFCH record it on some project subpage, just in case the editor replaces all the content in the article. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs) 19:40, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi there,
Thanks for the quick response, I only joined wikipedia on Friday so a lot is still new to me, I will continue (and hopefully improve!) W — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wleikertas ( talk • contribs) 09:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Excirial,
Thanks for reviewing my submission.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Made.com_(retailer)
Your review said it appears to be more of an advertisement, article being not set up in an encyclopedic format and also questions the subject’s notability. I have improved the article including few changes to source references.
I would further like to mention that the references provided are from notable and reliable news sources like BBC, Guardian, Techcrunch etc and the awards mentioned have been reported in publications like telegraph and goodwebguide.com.
Please reconsider accepting my submission.
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JulesMajor ( talk • contribs) 09:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Question was cross-posted to
User talk:Nyttend
Hello, you deleted my article because I used copyrighted work. I will change it, but where can I find the deleted article, because when I try to open it, than I just receive an empty editing box.
Thanks! — Preceding
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Good morning, Excirial. I have addressed your comments in an article I'm trying hard to get right and have removed peacock terms and added more references in support of the person's work. Would you mind having another look, please? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Anthony_Wile Related question... There appears to be an old page that was begun for this individual sometime in the past but never really finished. You recently reviewed it, too, and it's now showing up on my watchlist. I assume that one should be deleted? It's here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Anthony_Wile [old] Finally--if this is NOT the best way to request a re-review or re-submit, please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GatorHalcon ( talk • contribs) 11:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
PS, maybe you had better have a look: he says he's willing to rewrite to avoid copyvio, but I've blanked his AfC...
Hi Excirial, I realise you're busy and you don't need to respond to this unless you feel like it. The issue is repeated copyvio by a new user on his karate article, see: User_talk:Robinjamesshort. I just mention it because you are one of the editors who picked it up earlier, and I would like your view, only if you can spare the time, on my latest response to him. Regards, David_FLXD (Talk) 11:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial
I have written article about Enigma NMS, publishing of which was declined by you on the basis of absence on independent, reputable sources. In references for the article I have included Product Review done by "Network Computing UK Magazine", where they have actually installed and trialed my software. Could you please advise if above reference does not meet Wikipedia's definition of verifiable source. Regarding the way material is presented, I can validate every claim which I made, but it may still look like promotion material. I may need to ask you to point me to whoever can help me to modify my article so it gets published on your web site.
Thank you very much for your assistance
Kind regards
Mikhail Chelomanov NETSAS Pty Ltd Australia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chelomm ( talk • contribs) 12:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Excirial I have taken on board your comments on my submission and have redone the citations using the citation tool and neutralised all the evaluative terms. If there are any others that you feel are not neutral please inform me and I will amend them.
The citation tool only provides for Websites, newspapers, books and journals, though. How do you cite TV and radio programmes?
A second question I have is can citations be amended after insertion if, for example, a page number has been inadvertently omitted? Kind regards Populotradit Populotradit ( talk) 15:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial,
Since the first submission, I sincerely thank you a lot to help me realize some main problems which make the article not neutral enough. I did the modification and revised almost all the content based on the suggestion you gave in order to make it more be a wiki entry. However, the second submission was declined again although I thought it should be perfect this time. I think maybe you would be so kind to re-exam the article I did and tell me from the point of view as a third person about the content which need to be improved. Actually I reviewed the passage "read more like an advertisement" several times and I find by far the problem may be the description about the SERVICES part because the content may look like sales-oriented. Anyway, I am expecting from you more details of advices.
Here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Transport_Marketplace
Best regards, Foncion ( talk) 06:58, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I have just recently created the Kodenshi America Inc. Site and was just wondering which parts of my article were non-neutral so that I can change those and include some references before I resubmit the article for creation. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Peter An — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anpeter ( talk • contribs) 22:16, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi my article was deleted about a legitimate non-profit organization. Site: afrmc@afrmc.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.100.9 ( talk) 18:16, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Excirial: Thank you for reviewing and commenting on an 'Article Submission' from me titled 'Delegates from ...'. I apologize that the item did not resemble an article. I believe now that the item should be sent to my talk page as a section. The item has a user name consisting of numerals. There is very little content in it, so about all I'm doing right now is trying to reserve it's title. in the late nineteenth century there was a Canadian politition in a presidential delegation from Washington DC to Gettysberg. there was also a delegation from North-West Territories, Canada Headed by Gabriel Dumont to Montana which brout back Louis Riel to Canada where Riel was executed. Such things deserve better coverage. I have been noticing redirecs and am wondering if a rejected article can be sent to my talk page.
Sincerely,RCNesland RCNesland ( talk) 10:03, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I had our ARTHUR JEFFES page declined, but I'm not sure why, please could you briefly give me any pointers for how to improve it to get it on line.
Arthur has a big concert at somerset house on saturday for the olympics and we really wanted to get this page live before then.
thanks very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xenbanshee ( talk • contribs) 10:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
In order to get this approved and published - Do I reference a particular person - or does it have to be lieterature or a quote on a website reference?
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.17.134 ( talk) 12:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial, It looks as if you reviewed the original version (twice) that was submitted a couple of days ago. I tried to resubmit but it seems that I cannot (or I'm probably not doing it correctly) I keep getting redirected to another page saying that it's been declined. My new submission is just the intro section (first 2 sections).
How can I resubmit? Any help you can offer to get this up would be greatly appreciated. Thank you BeeDazzle BeeDazzle ( talk) 20:32, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Thank you for your feedback. I will try to get some more references (I did add some but they seem to not be good enough) if I can find any more. I must admit to being a bit frustrated with the process of getting a simple factual mention in Wikipedia of a company and of software that does obviously exist and is used by many users around the world. I am not sure if we have any further references from creditable publications, so if I cannot find any, I guess I will have to give up! I will do a bit more searching first though :-). Regards, Ervin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heavy66 ( talk • contribs) 10:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Sir, I wrote this out as best I could as an article and my writing style has been used as the criteria to reject the article? You say my style is like an essay? Shall I write it as bullet points. I was trying to make it interesting. I've looked at dozen of otehr articles and they seem written the same way. I feel this is a little critical. It's taking along time to create this. Any feedback gratefully received. Regards. Articles for creation/Safety Regulations Governing the Transport of Radioactive Material. unsigned comment signed for user:Vinette algasse
Hi Exicrial,
You recently reviewed my submission on the sculptor Lawrence Tenney Stevens, and I got back a notice saying that you reviewed it and declined it, but I'm having a real issue figuring out how to view your comments and fix what I did wrong, as the notification was pretty unclear as to how to do that. Could you either recommend the correct way to do this, or even just repeat what your comments were? Thanks so much!
Gretchenea — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gretchenea ( talk • contribs) 15:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your feedback! After I asked this question I actually found your comments, and I really appreciate your clarifying your decision specifically for me. I went back through and removed or reworded the offending content, and I just resubmitted! I hope the changes help it sound less subjective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gretchenea ( talk • contribs) 19:07, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
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Good evening Excirial,
I am annoyed and a little angry.
Up until this evening, I had thought that one's sandbox was a private space. Then this happened – somebody that I had never even heard of before now. I feel invaded. Kind regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones ( talk) 20:12, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing and creating my article peripheral subgroup. I hope people like it and improve it. -- Gallusgallus ( talk) 21:34, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
The reliability of my sources has been questioned. I am the ultimately "reliable source" on croquet, and beyond myself, the sources for information are first-hand.
In the space at the bottom of the page, I identified myself as the editor and founder of Croquet World Online Magazine, www.CroquetWorld.com, which is the sole independent worldwide magazine for the sport of croquet. I have been publishing CROQUET WORLD for 17 years. It is cited often in mainstream media as the primary source for much that is reported on the sport. Very seldom does Newsweek or CBS or other major media report on croquet without consulting me at some point, often to ask for additional references or photos.
In addition I have published books on croquet for the US Croquet Association, and I consult with all the US croquet organizations, including the Croquet Foundation of America. My background includes organizing the San Francsico Croquet Club in the 80's as the first two-lawn public facility for croquet in the U.S. I then wrote a three-volume series on CLUB BUILDING AND MANAGEMENT.
All the facts have been gotten from FIRST-HAND SOURCES in the Croquet Foundation of America, including the president of the organization, David McCoy. His email address is McCoy1165@aol.com. He will confirm the reliability of Bob Alman as a source and the accuracy of the information in the entry.
My "objectivity" has been questioned. Perhaps it's because I said the National Croquet Center is the largest and finest in the world of croquet? It is, without question. I cited the acreage and the square footage of the building and its architechtural type and characteristics, without using "peacock" adjectives. If you need another source to check this or any of the facts or characterizations, let me know how I can help you find it.
I am the founding editor of www.Croquetworld.com and several other websites. I am a trained journalist, writer, and editor. I am also something of a techno-phobe. So I do apologize if I'm missing something here in the process. (I have a webmaster and layout editor to handle these things for me on CROQUET WORLD.) I am following directions here by rote, the same way I edited (successfully, it appears) the page CROQUET HALL OF FAME a few days ago.
Please help me through this process!
Bob Alman, Editor CROQUET WORLD ONLINE MAGAZINE www.CroquetWorld.com RealitySports ( talk) 21:29, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
HI, Excirial
The reason The Raddigan Brothers Noise Experience page was made was to link it with The Silence and the Serenity band/music page, after the page was edited by Phil Bartsch the drummer of both of the bands that have Wikipedia pages.
2/3 of The Raddigan Bros. are the founding members of Bless the Fallen, and The Silence and the Serenity. The Raddigan Bros. haven't had too much publicity as of yet but have picked up a lot of speed in the last year and are starting to get recognition in local newspapers and Punk Zines. and have played many shows in the Tri-State Area. There were a few reputable references to cite information from, and The Silence and The Serenity. And there are some reviews and feed back from the last album that are still to be added.
Thank You for reading. The Raddigan Bros. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.50.175.162 ( talk) 00:37, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Excirial,
thank you for your reply. Please, can you specify the passages in text, where more reliable sources will be necessary? As an example, the introduction: Who else but the company itself can provide information about financial figures or the number of employees? Regarding history, i think we agree to each other, that no free newspaper or the like would publish a whole company history. Nevertheless Hoerbiger Holding should not only have a record in German Wikipedia, because the group has thousands of workers round the globe who only speak English.
So can you help me and tell, which sources would find your acceptance?
Thank you in advance!
Direct link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Hoerbiger_Holding_AG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr John Miller ( talk • contribs) 10:41, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi thank you for your help with this I was just curious how I can write a biography page and meet your neutral terms. I am open to suggestion..and very appreciated Thank you Ted — Preceding unsigned comment added by TKPBOK ( talk • contribs) 19:39, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Greetings, Kingdom Asventism belongs to Steve Daily and is the author of the site, Also his book Kingdom Adventism is on Amazon. I may have misunderstood, the copywrite rules but the Steve Daily is the owner that is why I referenced it. Thank you, please explain what I can do to include Kingdom Adventism on the Steve Daily submittal. Again, Thank you.
Here is a look with Steve Daily > http://kingdomadventism.com/?page_id=2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dailyrevival ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello,
I have created an article 'Kristina Galea' and it was not accepted. What should I do please? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovemcfly ( talk • contribs) 10:32, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
I am trying to create the page Amelkis SAS, I have attempted to be objective, however obviously i have not been enough. Could you kindly recommend on any standing out major issues with the post which i can amend in order to have a solid article?
i have tried to create the article following a similar patter as ' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_AG' and ' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_Group' which are two firms in the industry.
Any help would be highly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jciniamelkis ( talk • contribs) 11:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello there,
Many thanks for reviewing the article I submitted on Medic to Medic! It seems I have come across the common problem of copyright meaning my page was deleted. Two things I would appreciate your feedback on are: 1. How can I best make sure that what I have written won't be deleted again? It was not clear to me which parts of the article were unacceptable and would like to rectify that. 2. I've tried saving my edits but I come across a message saying: "This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. 20:47, 12 July 2012 Selket (talk | contribs) deleted page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Medic to Medic (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement)"
As I am new to wikipedia, I am not entirely sure what I am being asked or how to continue editing my article for re-submission. Hope you can help.
Thanks! Teresa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teresa Due ( talk • contribs) 13:30, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello Excirial, thank you for your review of mine Remote Support submission, and let me say that in fact there is an overlap with desktop sharing. However, it's not correct to say that remote support is possible due to desktop sharing - its the other way around (and that's exactly why I felt the need to write this submission). It's perfectly possible to provide remote support without using desktop sharing; desktop sharing is just one of many possibilities. For instance, you can provide remote support just by using command lines (powershell), thus solving the issue without ever seeing or sharing the client's desktop.
Long story short, desktop sharing its an IT tool used by remote support services, but not the only one. Remote Support is much more than that. Please take this in consideration and let me know what I must do to make my article approved.
Best regards, Gonçalo Filipe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonzalix ( talk • contribs) 08:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
You declined Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/John Gledden twice for a lack of reliable sources. The author asked about the rationale on the help desk. I'll reply and address some issues with the articles, but since the article gives as sources several newspaper and magazine articles and some BBC and Radio Sheffield radio coverage, it does not seem to lack reliable sources, and I believe the lack of inline citations on its own is not supposed to be a reason to decline a submission. Could you please explain your rationale at the help desk? Huon ( talk) 14:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial-
This is in regards to the decline of my submission: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/NYC Outward Bound Schools. The reasoning given was that it wasn't written in an encyclopedic tone, didn't use unbiased sources, and used value-laden language (my wording, as I can't find the decline page right now!). I'm hoping you can help me by giving me a few specific lines and/or particularly problematic sections? I've used 28 published references in the article, including 3 New York Times articles, a New York Times Magazine article, a New York Observer article, a New York Post article, 2 Newsday articles, a Miami Herald article, several articles from academic journals, and several books from established publishers like Teachers College Press, Public Affairs Books, and Middle Atlantic Press.
There are about 3 sections where I try to describe the organization's mission, values, goals and results, and I will admit that it was harder there to keep an encyclopedic tone. In the few places where assertions are made without references, I've tried to qualify the language using terms like "The organization espouses a goal of doing XYZ" rather than "The organization delivers quality educational experiences", etc. And I have really tried to not use superlatives and value-charged adjectives. Can you please give me some sections and examples for me to look at and suggestions for how to improve?
Thanks, Carol NYCOBuser NYCOBuser ( talk) 21:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Copied from the Article's for creation helpdesk.
I recently created an article which was not accepted because it contained copyrighted information. I am not sure what the violation was. Could you explain? I am new at this. The article was to be entitled 'Melvyn Goodale' or Melvyn A. Goodale'
This is the message I received:
Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. The submission has not been accepted because it included copyrighted information, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. You are welcome to write an article on the subject, but please do not use copyrighted work.
If you would like to continue working on the submission, you can find it at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Melvyn A. Goodale. To edit the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the help desk, via real time chat with helpers, or on the reviewer's talk page. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia!
Alan thistle ( talk) 17:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Exciral,
Thank you so much for your response.
Since I own a PR firm am I banned from writing articles for Wikipedia? I took an interest in Kreemo because of what they represent, not because of a paid relationship. They are college students in Atlanta where I live and I respect 21 year old college students who generate millions of dollars of revenue while in school. When I met them I was in awe that they didn't have a page, that's why I submitted a request for one. I had a Wikipedia account long before I met them.
I do think that since I own a PR firm, my tone tends to be corporate in format...LOL I'm guilty there. Please let me know if publicists are banned from writing articles. I hope that's not the case. I work with celebrities but I don't know them all or have personal relationships with them.
Thank you so much :-) Clorissawright ( talk) 15:13, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Do I need reliable sources to post my company page if its just informational? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.116.127 ( talk) 20:33, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for your excellent reviewing at AfC! SwisterTwister talk 02:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC) |
Hello,
You recently reviewed an article I have been working on about Matthew 25: Ministries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Matthew_25:_Ministries. You told me that the article reads like an advertisement and not like an encyclopedia. I was told this once before and was told to make it more dry. I thought I had removed any flowery wording and felt I added enough outside, reliable sources to back up the information. I have been declined several times and am doing my best to rectify each problem. I was wondering if you could give me some specific examples of where the article gives an advertisement feel and how I might fix that? It is not my intention to create an advertisement I just want to provide information on the organization. Should I remove all links to the organization's website? These are in place simply to provide the most updated information of the given topic; however, if they are the reason for the advertisement feel then I can certainly remove them. Again, if you can please give me some examples of advertisement and how I could go about fixing that I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for your time. Joodia ( talk) 19:53, 13 July 2012 (UTC)Joodia
Excirial,
I felt the page I submitted is covered by the notability statute in as much as the art for videogame packages were only actually PAINTED ( caps for emphasis Excirial...not emotion, honest) for a very finite amount of time. That window covered the very early games wherein the pixelated characters were so primitive as to actually require definition by an outside source, ie: the illustrator. This was processed in creative meetings between game developers and illustrators for the purposes of packaging and selling the product.
There occurred over the ensuing 20 years (1980- 2000) an actual crossing point, where the skills of the artists melded into the technical: Going from the hand drawn and hand painted; into the Photoshop end cg world, while the skills (and more importantly, the hardware and software) of the programmers began to accelerate more and more quickly into cg realms that no longer required definition by an outside agent, again, the illustrator.
At that point illustrations began to be extracted from the actual game employees, ie: programmers and animators, and the old line concept of ILLUSTRATING COVERS BY HAND AS PAINTINGS DISAPPEARED.
Make no mistake, the illustrations used today for gaming are far advanced over the work my compatriots and myself used to produce, but here is the telling issue: TANGIBLE PAINTED ILLUSTRATIONS ARE DISAPPEARING. Today I work in Photoshop. I send my files to clients as data.
And this is not only true in gaming, but in all walks of illustration. IF I were to walk into a design firm today with a painting under my arm, my clients would literally not KNOW what to do with it.
By naming my entry 'retro videogame artist', my example presents a notable milestone regarding the demise of the physical painting in the illustration world. Should I perhaps describe more fully the loss of hand painting and tangible paintings?
The Notability is this: While computer gaming gave illustration a great boost in 1980, within the technology itself, were the seeds that ended illustration as it had been known since the dawn of civilization. There are no longer physically extant paintings being done for the illustration market as we know it, outside of boutique editorial applications.
Additionally many of the companies and personalities I mention already have Wiki entries: Broderbund. The Carlston family. Kieth Zabalauie, Ed Rains, Activision, Sega, and many many of the games I illustrated can be found in Wikipedia, and many of my original illustrations are found there in graphic manner as well.
Further, can you let me know how to use sources not indicated in your sourcing drop down menu (journals-web-papers-books)? Things like military records, DD-214 etc.? Or college records for graduation and degrees, etc?
Wow! ...Thanks for the time, I appreciate all your efforts with wiki. It's a fantastic tool and platform for the new world in which we live.---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by C0martman ( talk • contribs) 23:19, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial,
it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Web_Coverage_Processing_Service again: think I have learnt that standards texts cannot be quoted, so I have rewritten the passages I believe have offended review. Can we give it another try please?
Thanks for your patience, Pebau.grandauer ( talk) 14:39, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Hiyas there Mabdul,
Another suggestion right on your talk page rather then on the dev page (O well) for AFCH. I was thinking that it might be an idea to have an extra option in AFCH that allows one to mark a page as potentially high quality for Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts, just in case the creator abandons it. It would mean less sifting trough old stuff, and allow one to keep a backlog of promising pages. I was thinking about a template on the page, but it may be easier to let AFCH record it on some project subpage, just in case the editor replaces all the content in the article. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs) 19:40, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi there,
Thanks for the quick response, I only joined wikipedia on Friday so a lot is still new to me, I will continue (and hopefully improve!) W — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wleikertas ( talk • contribs) 09:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Excirial,
Thanks for reviewing my submission.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Made.com_(retailer)
Your review said it appears to be more of an advertisement, article being not set up in an encyclopedic format and also questions the subject’s notability. I have improved the article including few changes to source references.
I would further like to mention that the references provided are from notable and reliable news sources like BBC, Guardian, Techcrunch etc and the awards mentioned have been reported in publications like telegraph and goodwebguide.com.
Please reconsider accepting my submission.
Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JulesMajor ( talk • contribs) 09:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
Question was cross-posted to
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Hello, you deleted my article because I used copyrighted work. I will change it, but where can I find the deleted article, because when I try to open it, than I just receive an empty editing box.
Thanks! — Preceding
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Good morning, Excirial. I have addressed your comments in an article I'm trying hard to get right and have removed peacock terms and added more references in support of the person's work. Would you mind having another look, please? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Anthony_Wile Related question... There appears to be an old page that was begun for this individual sometime in the past but never really finished. You recently reviewed it, too, and it's now showing up on my watchlist. I assume that one should be deleted? It's here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Anthony_Wile [old] Finally--if this is NOT the best way to request a re-review or re-submit, please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GatorHalcon ( talk • contribs) 11:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
PS, maybe you had better have a look: he says he's willing to rewrite to avoid copyvio, but I've blanked his AfC...
Hi Excirial, I realise you're busy and you don't need to respond to this unless you feel like it. The issue is repeated copyvio by a new user on his karate article, see: User_talk:Robinjamesshort. I just mention it because you are one of the editors who picked it up earlier, and I would like your view, only if you can spare the time, on my latest response to him. Regards, David_FLXD (Talk) 11:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial
I have written article about Enigma NMS, publishing of which was declined by you on the basis of absence on independent, reputable sources. In references for the article I have included Product Review done by "Network Computing UK Magazine", where they have actually installed and trialed my software. Could you please advise if above reference does not meet Wikipedia's definition of verifiable source. Regarding the way material is presented, I can validate every claim which I made, but it may still look like promotion material. I may need to ask you to point me to whoever can help me to modify my article so it gets published on your web site.
Thank you very much for your assistance
Kind regards
Mikhail Chelomanov NETSAS Pty Ltd Australia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chelomm ( talk • contribs) 12:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Excirial I have taken on board your comments on my submission and have redone the citations using the citation tool and neutralised all the evaluative terms. If there are any others that you feel are not neutral please inform me and I will amend them.
The citation tool only provides for Websites, newspapers, books and journals, though. How do you cite TV and radio programmes?
A second question I have is can citations be amended after insertion if, for example, a page number has been inadvertently omitted? Kind regards Populotradit Populotradit ( talk) 15:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial,
Since the first submission, I sincerely thank you a lot to help me realize some main problems which make the article not neutral enough. I did the modification and revised almost all the content based on the suggestion you gave in order to make it more be a wiki entry. However, the second submission was declined again although I thought it should be perfect this time. I think maybe you would be so kind to re-exam the article I did and tell me from the point of view as a third person about the content which need to be improved. Actually I reviewed the passage "read more like an advertisement" several times and I find by far the problem may be the description about the SERVICES part because the content may look like sales-oriented. Anyway, I am expecting from you more details of advices.
Here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Transport_Marketplace
Best regards, Foncion ( talk) 06:58, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I have just recently created the Kodenshi America Inc. Site and was just wondering which parts of my article were non-neutral so that I can change those and include some references before I resubmit the article for creation. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Peter An — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anpeter ( talk • contribs) 22:16, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi my article was deleted about a legitimate non-profit organization. Site: afrmc@afrmc.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.100.9 ( talk) 18:16, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Excirial: Thank you for reviewing and commenting on an 'Article Submission' from me titled 'Delegates from ...'. I apologize that the item did not resemble an article. I believe now that the item should be sent to my talk page as a section. The item has a user name consisting of numerals. There is very little content in it, so about all I'm doing right now is trying to reserve it's title. in the late nineteenth century there was a Canadian politition in a presidential delegation from Washington DC to Gettysberg. there was also a delegation from North-West Territories, Canada Headed by Gabriel Dumont to Montana which brout back Louis Riel to Canada where Riel was executed. Such things deserve better coverage. I have been noticing redirecs and am wondering if a rejected article can be sent to my talk page.
Sincerely,RCNesland RCNesland ( talk) 10:03, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I had our ARTHUR JEFFES page declined, but I'm not sure why, please could you briefly give me any pointers for how to improve it to get it on line.
Arthur has a big concert at somerset house on saturday for the olympics and we really wanted to get this page live before then.
thanks very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xenbanshee ( talk • contribs) 10:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
In order to get this approved and published - Do I reference a particular person - or does it have to be lieterature or a quote on a website reference?
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.17.134 ( talk) 12:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Excirial, It looks as if you reviewed the original version (twice) that was submitted a couple of days ago. I tried to resubmit but it seems that I cannot (or I'm probably not doing it correctly) I keep getting redirected to another page saying that it's been declined. My new submission is just the intro section (first 2 sections).
How can I resubmit? Any help you can offer to get this up would be greatly appreciated. Thank you BeeDazzle BeeDazzle ( talk) 20:32, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Thank you for your feedback. I will try to get some more references (I did add some but they seem to not be good enough) if I can find any more. I must admit to being a bit frustrated with the process of getting a simple factual mention in Wikipedia of a company and of software that does obviously exist and is used by many users around the world. I am not sure if we have any further references from creditable publications, so if I cannot find any, I guess I will have to give up! I will do a bit more searching first though :-). Regards, Ervin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heavy66 ( talk • contribs) 10:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Dear Sir, I wrote this out as best I could as an article and my writing style has been used as the criteria to reject the article? You say my style is like an essay? Shall I write it as bullet points. I was trying to make it interesting. I've looked at dozen of otehr articles and they seem written the same way. I feel this is a little critical. It's taking along time to create this. Any feedback gratefully received. Regards. Articles for creation/Safety Regulations Governing the Transport of Radioactive Material. unsigned comment signed for user:Vinette algasse
Hi Exicrial,
You recently reviewed my submission on the sculptor Lawrence Tenney Stevens, and I got back a notice saying that you reviewed it and declined it, but I'm having a real issue figuring out how to view your comments and fix what I did wrong, as the notification was pretty unclear as to how to do that. Could you either recommend the correct way to do this, or even just repeat what your comments were? Thanks so much!
Gretchenea — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gretchenea ( talk • contribs) 15:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your feedback! After I asked this question I actually found your comments, and I really appreciate your clarifying your decision specifically for me. I went back through and removed or reworded the offending content, and I just resubmitted! I hope the changes help it sound less subjective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gretchenea ( talk • contribs) 19:07, 19 July 2012 (UTC)