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Hello,
in the sentence «The possible future United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union is widely known as Brexit» You removed the words possible and future. I do not understand why.
It is a future event. As a future event it is related to uncertainty. Is there anything which ensure the Brexit will start on march 2019?
So, it might be a good thing to clarify this is a future event. Could this future word be added in the article?
As it has some fuzzy or uncertain aspects, it might be more exact to clarify, that this is some kind of possibility, using the word possible or any other appropriate word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.103.100 ( talk) 23:44, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
This, within the treaty terms, makes Treaties cease to apply by March 2019, unless other date commonly agreed.
It looks like you prefer the second sentence which stand that:
This, within the treaty terms, would put the UK on a course to leave the EU by March 2019.
I do not understand this second sentence: Article 50 seems to be quite formal while this second sentence might be quite informal.
What is better in the second sentence than in the first one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.103.100 ( talk) 23:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi. Just wanted to remind that it's better to initiate a discussion on talk page before deleting or altering a chunk of information from the lead in the article Poland. I've added two reliable sources; one is the official from the Economy of the European Union page; please have a look on both the source and Wikipedia article and see that Poland is in the eighth place. I've also included an additional source about Poland being one of the fastest growing economies as of 2016.
Regards - Oliszydlowski (TALK) 23:03, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
While I don't agree with Little Oliveoil that COI issues are irrelevant, I do agree that extensive discussion of contributors is not appropriate at article talk pages. Please focus on content at the article talk page. Thanks. Jytdog ( talk) 21:44, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I saw your edit and it makes sense. I don't know how to categorize jazz musicians. Or, I don't know what existing categories to use. There's nationality, instrument, genre, and gender. Broad to narrow. Jazz saxophonists, American jazz saxophonists, American jazz soprano saxophonists, Female American jazz soprano saxophonists... There's the record label category, hometown, home state, cause of death, awards, alumni. For biographies of musicians, which categories would you like to see used most?
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Vmavanti (
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23:13, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
We are students writing an article on Alex Mercado as part of our class Academic Discourse and Writing at Tec de Monterrey. Since you are an experienced Wikipedian and have an interest in these kinds of topics, we would like to know if you could take a few moments to take a look at the article and give us feedback. Thank you for your time.-- Rodrigo Orellán ( talk) 22:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi hi. Would you mind weighing in on this RfC? It involves two revisions and which is more faithful to the source cited. Dan56 ( talk) 16:53, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Except for the infobox, which I added, the entry for
Chiara Civello has been copied and pasted from
the AllMusic entry. I'm not sure what to do. I was reading the maintenance template pages, which led me to the copyright pages, and then my head started to swim. Thanks for your help.
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Vmavanti (
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00:13, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
bassist/arranger Pino Presti and drummer Tullio De Piscopo toured with Mulligan in Europe in the 70s, including Olympia Theatre in Paris, International Music Festival in Mallorca, ecc. They have recorded with Mulligan in two albums, including the well known "Summit - Reunion Cumbre", described in the AllMusic review by Storm Roberts, as "A superb 1974 session recorded in Milan teams baritone-saxist Gerry Mulligan with the great guru of art-music tango. This is mostly dark and moody music, with a lot of tonal variety and a resolute refusal to fit into any of the handy pigeonholes: a one-off event, wholly successful".
http://www.allmusic.com/album/release/summit-reunion-cumbre-mr0002076326
Regards --
CoolJazz5 (
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03:36, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Would you take a look at this mess?
Cynthia Crane. Thanks. I didn't know what to do.
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Vmavanti (
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00:36, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
I've wondered about this for a while. I see "Down Beat" used several ways. The Wikipedia page is titled "Down Beat" and adds that it is stylized "DOWNBEAT", which I'm not sure is always true, though the cover of the print magazine does have the title in all caps. On the pages of the magazine and on its web site, "DownBeat" is used. Sign of the times, probably, smashing words together. Which version do you think should be used? Given that the magazine today uses "DownBeat", do you think the Wikipedia page should be changed?
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Vmavanti (
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18:47, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
I apologise for any personal stuff. It's a topic that can get people's backs up. MaxBrowne ( talk) 11:53, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Should these pages be merged or edited somehow? Quite a few similarities.
Do you know of a reliable source for release dates for albums and the labels that released them? Often I encounter conflicting data. I thought this kind of data would be easy to get and relatively reliable, but problems exist. I'm surprised at how much AllMusic gets wrong: dates, labels, musicians' names, songwriters. You name it and they'll get it wrong. I could use Discogs, but that information comes from everyone and is therefore not a legitimate source for Wikipedia, and in fact I've seen errors in Discogs. The musician's web site seems like an obviously reliable source, but often the site's discography is incomplete and lists albums with the labels that are currently distributing them, rather than the labels that issued them in the beginning. I know that retail sites can't be used, though I occasionally look at Amazon for verification, but Amazon, too, has incorrect data. Other problems arise: this label bought that label, or this one distributes that one, which is different for imports, and so on. What seems like simple information turns out to be more difficult to locate than it ought to be. I thought there might be some kind of business or legal source or site where this information could be found with something closer to certainty or reliability. Any ideas? As always, thanks for your help.
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Vmavanti (
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18:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
I totally agree with the issues you raise regarding release dates - both Allmusic and Discogs have their innacuracies - Stuff from the post-internet world is more reliable but I always check to see if there is a copyright date on an image of the first known release (e.g record label or cover) at least then I can get the year right. This actually came up recently when I created Extemporaneous (album) which almost EVERY source states as a 1978 release BUT the label number and discography details places it as being released at least after 1990 due to the recording dates on albums released on the label with lower catalog numbers... Oh and also sometimes a google search under books will turn up a reference to the album in a trade magazine like Cashbox or Billboard which details that the album has been released that month - or even details on the copyright entry for songs that give an approximate year. DISEman ( talk) 01:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Can you say a little more about the citation error on
Money Jungle? Should I bother correcting citation errors at all? Sometimes I use the Wikiproject cleanup list for suggestions. That's where I found this one, under citation errors. I happened to find a pdf for that article that mentions Don DeMicheal's review of three albums. Possibly someone read that issue of Downbeat (June 2013), then article which mentions DeMicheal's reviews from the 1963 issue in order to source the 1963 issue. It's not a v. good way to source things. For one thing, you're not getting all the information from the original source, just a passing mention in the later source. The way I was taught, whether it applies to WP I don't know, is to cite the source where I found the information. So for me, that's the 2013 pdf. If I were to cite a review, I would source the review, not source a passing remark about the review.
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Vmavanti (
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16:46, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
I've spent a lot of time trying to chip away at the
Cleanup listing for WikiProject Jazz. I thought I was making progress, but that might be impossible. Does someone run or maintain or monitor this page? I know that bots somehow comb through and compile information that shows up there. Or does a person do it? I wonder if anyone but me looks at it. Sometimes there are entries that don't belong because they aren't jazz. There's one today, the song "Maneater" by Hall & Oates. For a while I thought if the word "jazz" appeared anywhere in an article, then the article, if it needed work, would appear on the Wikiproject Cleanup page. But now I'm not sure. What's "Maneater" doing there?
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Vmavanti (
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02:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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Should the Kevin Eubanks page be deleted since there's already a page about the Tonight Show Band?
I deleted the Wikiproject Jazz template from the Jakko Jakszyk and Judith Durham pages because I thought they were not jazz musicians. My edits were reverted yesterday. I've never heard of either one. The former has played guitar for King Crimson, which is definitely not jazz. I haven't researched Durham enough yet, but I'm not aware of her being a jazz vocalist, and I keep a long spreadsheet of female jazz vocalists on my computer. Her name has never come up. If you want to take a look, go ahead, if not, that's fine. I posted to the Jakszyk Talk page.
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Vmavanti (
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18:48, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
If you look at the link provided, also the most important banks and largest stock markets in the world. New York is the global financial centre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redom115 ( talk • contribs) 22:47, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes well, I have sources that say New York is the financial centre of the world and they have it at number one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redom115 ( talk • contribs) 11:56, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
With ignorants and friends. Picuslor ( talk) 21:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
I started working on the big band entry and I'd like your opinion on a couple subjects. First, in infoboxes, what background should be used for big band bandleaders? Non vocal instrumentalist or non performing personnel? Usually I see the former but I have seen a few examples of the latter that could be changed. I've always been a little troubled by the imprecision of the term "non-performing." A lyricist or a record producer is non-performing if they don't sing or play an instrument, and thus don't record or perform at all publicly. Big band bandleaders, probably all of them, can play instruments and have performed. Maybe not as soloists. As the leader of a big band, that's performing, right? A conductor of a symphony is a performer, right?
Second, categories. More imprecision. I know you don't care much for them, and I don't either, but I see a place for some of them. Let's a say a reader wants a list of big bands or big-band leaders (conductors). That would be handy way, for example, to find new music. There are two categories that have been populated: Big band bandleaders and jazz bandleaders. You see the difference. Or the problem. Many or most jazz musicians become leaders of bands, i.e. trios, quartets. Not all of them are leaders of big bands. I'm including jazz orchestras with big bands because I'm not sure there's a difference. So you have these two categories which can overlap. I can see a difference, but I'm not sure every reader does. I've been putting big band bandleaders under that category instead of jazz bandleaders, despite the overlap. I haven't deleted any.
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Vmavanti (
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14:57, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
What do you think of pages like this:
Autumn in New York,
As Time Goes By. However they started, they wind up an excuse for people to play Jeopardy and turn the article into a grocery list. I see many pages like this, with these lists, and to top it off a trivia section. Should they exist? Should each song in the list be sourced? Should the list exist at all? I can see an interest in certain songs. But many of these entries are so bad and have accumulated junk. Someone slaps a maintenance template on it, then someone like me comes along, wanting to clean it up but befuddled about what to do or where to start. It's like when someone goes to an accountant and dumps a box of paper, receipts, scraps, gum wrappers, and lint onto his desk and says, "Here, figure out my finances."
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Vmavanti (
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20:18, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
On the Wikiproject cleanup list, there are nineteen articles listed as having citations without titles. I've looked at them and scratched my head and worked on several without much success. Most of them come from old newspapers and magazines that I don't have access to. Any ideas how to handle these? Thanks.
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Vmavanti (
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22:46, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
I know you don't care much for lists, but I think readers might like to have a list of big bands. What we have now is a List of big bands and the category.
There are articles about bandleader and articles about their bands, sometimes both, sometimes one, making it difficult to have comprehensive list. Someone like Clark Terry led a big band for a short time, so there probably wouldn't be an article about his band, and there might not be a Big Band category at the bottom of his page. You see the problem. I've avoided categories since an administrator upbraided me for incorrectly editing his articles about New Jersey, specifically Rudy Van Gelder. So far, the most incendiary reaction I've gotten on Wikipedia, though being called a racist by saxophonist Robert Stewart is not far behind.
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Vmavanti (
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19:06, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Do you know of any sensible, higher level, diplomatic administrators who can address the complaints by Mr Stewart? I've been under the impression that Amazon and CDbaby can't be used as sources. Ever. Isn't that correct?
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Vmavanti (
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17:01, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
EVIDENCE of collusion manifest indeed. I'll find a neutral administrator to deal with you two if the article about me isn't left alone and will use the obvious bias -& obsession of you two here as evidence. I have copied this talk page to my computer.
Professor Reason
Professor Reason ( talk) 20:26, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Over 100 source citations by me is evidence supreme. You chopped up verbatim quotes for your personal reasons - biases, not for factual or neutral purposes. You fool no one sir, so please just don't read the article if you dislike the writing there. I promise to forget about you as well. Thanks Professor Reason ( talk) 21:32, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
I changed that one word to "one" rather than "the" as was relayed in my edit summary. You removed whole paragraphs & chopped up verbatim quotes as the edit history shows. So, I've solicited a neutral administrator of whom I relayed the following:
Hello Wikipedia Administrator,
I've been trying for days now to reason with an editor. He's obsessed with removing my actual fact history as one of the premier saxophonist in jazz. Two previous editors approved my article Robert Stewart (saxophonist) almost a year ago now. EddieHugh has come and attempted to delete most of my actual fact history with over 100 citations in the article as evidence. My talk page is filled with my attempts to reason with him and resolve without issue. But, I need the help of an authority as soon as possible. I sincerely thank you for your time. Professor Reason (talk) 00:31, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Wish this didn't have to be this way for the record. Professor Reason ( talk) 01:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Another autobiography??
Arlen Roth article is quite promotional. Or was. There's a red link "Arlenroth" in the View History, but that's not a certainty. Regardless, maybe you can take a look. I worked on it last night but the time was getting late. Thanks.
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Vmavanti (
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05:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
How should long discographies as sideman be handled? Deodato has 1,866 credits at AllMusic. Dave Grusin has 2,477. Do you want me to choose what I think are the most important, which I sometimes know, sometimes not. Do you want me to pick a few by the major acts? Draw names out of a hat? How should I cut down the territory? I find long pages at Wikipedia overwhelming and discouraging to the reader.
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Vmavanti (
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01:58, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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I've read the documentation over and over and still am unclear about how to resolve vandalism from an IP address user. I know I'm supposed to warn them, but I'm not sure how. I ended up creating some page and putting a template of some kind, but I'm not sure that was right. Would you contact the proper administrator to put an end to obvious, juvenile vandalism at
Paul Murphy (musician)?
This idiot has been doing it since November 10. Thanks.
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Vmavanti (
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16:18, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again. Would you take a look at the
Randy Napoleon page? My edits keep getting reverted by someone who is obviously a fan and wants to a have a long section of cheerleading about their favorite musician, i.e. many quotes from reviews saying how great Randy Napoleon is. My favorite is the one in untranslated Hungarian.
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Hello,
in the sentence «The possible future United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union is widely known as Brexit» You removed the words possible and future. I do not understand why.
It is a future event. As a future event it is related to uncertainty. Is there anything which ensure the Brexit will start on march 2019?
So, it might be a good thing to clarify this is a future event. Could this future word be added in the article?
As it has some fuzzy or uncertain aspects, it might be more exact to clarify, that this is some kind of possibility, using the word possible or any other appropriate word. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.103.100 ( talk) 23:44, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
This, within the treaty terms, makes Treaties cease to apply by March 2019, unless other date commonly agreed.
It looks like you prefer the second sentence which stand that:
This, within the treaty terms, would put the UK on a course to leave the EU by March 2019.
I do not understand this second sentence: Article 50 seems to be quite formal while this second sentence might be quite informal.
What is better in the second sentence than in the first one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.103.100 ( talk) 23:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi. Just wanted to remind that it's better to initiate a discussion on talk page before deleting or altering a chunk of information from the lead in the article Poland. I've added two reliable sources; one is the official from the Economy of the European Union page; please have a look on both the source and Wikipedia article and see that Poland is in the eighth place. I've also included an additional source about Poland being one of the fastest growing economies as of 2016.
Regards - Oliszydlowski (TALK) 23:03, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
While I don't agree with Little Oliveoil that COI issues are irrelevant, I do agree that extensive discussion of contributors is not appropriate at article talk pages. Please focus on content at the article talk page. Thanks. Jytdog ( talk) 21:44, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I saw your edit and it makes sense. I don't know how to categorize jazz musicians. Or, I don't know what existing categories to use. There's nationality, instrument, genre, and gender. Broad to narrow. Jazz saxophonists, American jazz saxophonists, American jazz soprano saxophonists, Female American jazz soprano saxophonists... There's the record label category, hometown, home state, cause of death, awards, alumni. For biographies of musicians, which categories would you like to see used most?
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Vmavanti (
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23:13, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
We are students writing an article on Alex Mercado as part of our class Academic Discourse and Writing at Tec de Monterrey. Since you are an experienced Wikipedian and have an interest in these kinds of topics, we would like to know if you could take a few moments to take a look at the article and give us feedback. Thank you for your time.-- Rodrigo Orellán ( talk) 22:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi hi. Would you mind weighing in on this RfC? It involves two revisions and which is more faithful to the source cited. Dan56 ( talk) 16:53, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Except for the infobox, which I added, the entry for
Chiara Civello has been copied and pasted from
the AllMusic entry. I'm not sure what to do. I was reading the maintenance template pages, which led me to the copyright pages, and then my head started to swim. Thanks for your help.
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Vmavanti (
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00:13, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi,
bassist/arranger Pino Presti and drummer Tullio De Piscopo toured with Mulligan in Europe in the 70s, including Olympia Theatre in Paris, International Music Festival in Mallorca, ecc. They have recorded with Mulligan in two albums, including the well known "Summit - Reunion Cumbre", described in the AllMusic review by Storm Roberts, as "A superb 1974 session recorded in Milan teams baritone-saxist Gerry Mulligan with the great guru of art-music tango. This is mostly dark and moody music, with a lot of tonal variety and a resolute refusal to fit into any of the handy pigeonholes: a one-off event, wholly successful".
http://www.allmusic.com/album/release/summit-reunion-cumbre-mr0002076326
Regards --
CoolJazz5 (
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03:36, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Would you take a look at this mess?
Cynthia Crane. Thanks. I didn't know what to do.
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Vmavanti (
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00:36, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
I've wondered about this for a while. I see "Down Beat" used several ways. The Wikipedia page is titled "Down Beat" and adds that it is stylized "DOWNBEAT", which I'm not sure is always true, though the cover of the print magazine does have the title in all caps. On the pages of the magazine and on its web site, "DownBeat" is used. Sign of the times, probably, smashing words together. Which version do you think should be used? Given that the magazine today uses "DownBeat", do you think the Wikipedia page should be changed?
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Vmavanti (
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18:47, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
I apologise for any personal stuff. It's a topic that can get people's backs up. MaxBrowne ( talk) 11:53, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
Should these pages be merged or edited somehow? Quite a few similarities.
Do you know of a reliable source for release dates for albums and the labels that released them? Often I encounter conflicting data. I thought this kind of data would be easy to get and relatively reliable, but problems exist. I'm surprised at how much AllMusic gets wrong: dates, labels, musicians' names, songwriters. You name it and they'll get it wrong. I could use Discogs, but that information comes from everyone and is therefore not a legitimate source for Wikipedia, and in fact I've seen errors in Discogs. The musician's web site seems like an obviously reliable source, but often the site's discography is incomplete and lists albums with the labels that are currently distributing them, rather than the labels that issued them in the beginning. I know that retail sites can't be used, though I occasionally look at Amazon for verification, but Amazon, too, has incorrect data. Other problems arise: this label bought that label, or this one distributes that one, which is different for imports, and so on. What seems like simple information turns out to be more difficult to locate than it ought to be. I thought there might be some kind of business or legal source or site where this information could be found with something closer to certainty or reliability. Any ideas? As always, thanks for your help.
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Vmavanti (
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18:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
I totally agree with the issues you raise regarding release dates - both Allmusic and Discogs have their innacuracies - Stuff from the post-internet world is more reliable but I always check to see if there is a copyright date on an image of the first known release (e.g record label or cover) at least then I can get the year right. This actually came up recently when I created Extemporaneous (album) which almost EVERY source states as a 1978 release BUT the label number and discography details places it as being released at least after 1990 due to the recording dates on albums released on the label with lower catalog numbers... Oh and also sometimes a google search under books will turn up a reference to the album in a trade magazine like Cashbox or Billboard which details that the album has been released that month - or even details on the copyright entry for songs that give an approximate year. DISEman ( talk) 01:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Can you say a little more about the citation error on
Money Jungle? Should I bother correcting citation errors at all? Sometimes I use the Wikiproject cleanup list for suggestions. That's where I found this one, under citation errors. I happened to find a pdf for that article that mentions Don DeMicheal's review of three albums. Possibly someone read that issue of Downbeat (June 2013), then article which mentions DeMicheal's reviews from the 1963 issue in order to source the 1963 issue. It's not a v. good way to source things. For one thing, you're not getting all the information from the original source, just a passing mention in the later source. The way I was taught, whether it applies to WP I don't know, is to cite the source where I found the information. So for me, that's the 2013 pdf. If I were to cite a review, I would source the review, not source a passing remark about the review.
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Vmavanti (
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16:46, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
I've spent a lot of time trying to chip away at the
Cleanup listing for WikiProject Jazz. I thought I was making progress, but that might be impossible. Does someone run or maintain or monitor this page? I know that bots somehow comb through and compile information that shows up there. Or does a person do it? I wonder if anyone but me looks at it. Sometimes there are entries that don't belong because they aren't jazz. There's one today, the song "Maneater" by Hall & Oates. For a while I thought if the word "jazz" appeared anywhere in an article, then the article, if it needed work, would appear on the Wikiproject Cleanup page. But now I'm not sure. What's "Maneater" doing there?
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Vmavanti (
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02:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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Should the Kevin Eubanks page be deleted since there's already a page about the Tonight Show Band?
I deleted the Wikiproject Jazz template from the Jakko Jakszyk and Judith Durham pages because I thought they were not jazz musicians. My edits were reverted yesterday. I've never heard of either one. The former has played guitar for King Crimson, which is definitely not jazz. I haven't researched Durham enough yet, but I'm not aware of her being a jazz vocalist, and I keep a long spreadsheet of female jazz vocalists on my computer. Her name has never come up. If you want to take a look, go ahead, if not, that's fine. I posted to the Jakszyk Talk page.
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Vmavanti (
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18:48, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
If you look at the link provided, also the most important banks and largest stock markets in the world. New York is the global financial centre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redom115 ( talk • contribs) 22:47, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes well, I have sources that say New York is the financial centre of the world and they have it at number one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redom115 ( talk • contribs) 11:56, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
With ignorants and friends. Picuslor ( talk) 21:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
I started working on the big band entry and I'd like your opinion on a couple subjects. First, in infoboxes, what background should be used for big band bandleaders? Non vocal instrumentalist or non performing personnel? Usually I see the former but I have seen a few examples of the latter that could be changed. I've always been a little troubled by the imprecision of the term "non-performing." A lyricist or a record producer is non-performing if they don't sing or play an instrument, and thus don't record or perform at all publicly. Big band bandleaders, probably all of them, can play instruments and have performed. Maybe not as soloists. As the leader of a big band, that's performing, right? A conductor of a symphony is a performer, right?
Second, categories. More imprecision. I know you don't care much for them, and I don't either, but I see a place for some of them. Let's a say a reader wants a list of big bands or big-band leaders (conductors). That would be handy way, for example, to find new music. There are two categories that have been populated: Big band bandleaders and jazz bandleaders. You see the difference. Or the problem. Many or most jazz musicians become leaders of bands, i.e. trios, quartets. Not all of them are leaders of big bands. I'm including jazz orchestras with big bands because I'm not sure there's a difference. So you have these two categories which can overlap. I can see a difference, but I'm not sure every reader does. I've been putting big band bandleaders under that category instead of jazz bandleaders, despite the overlap. I haven't deleted any.
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Vmavanti (
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14:57, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
What do you think of pages like this:
Autumn in New York,
As Time Goes By. However they started, they wind up an excuse for people to play Jeopardy and turn the article into a grocery list. I see many pages like this, with these lists, and to top it off a trivia section. Should they exist? Should each song in the list be sourced? Should the list exist at all? I can see an interest in certain songs. But many of these entries are so bad and have accumulated junk. Someone slaps a maintenance template on it, then someone like me comes along, wanting to clean it up but befuddled about what to do or where to start. It's like when someone goes to an accountant and dumps a box of paper, receipts, scraps, gum wrappers, and lint onto his desk and says, "Here, figure out my finances."
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Vmavanti (
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20:18, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
On the Wikiproject cleanup list, there are nineteen articles listed as having citations without titles. I've looked at them and scratched my head and worked on several without much success. Most of them come from old newspapers and magazines that I don't have access to. Any ideas how to handle these? Thanks.
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Vmavanti (
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22:46, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
I know you don't care much for lists, but I think readers might like to have a list of big bands. What we have now is a List of big bands and the category.
There are articles about bandleader and articles about their bands, sometimes both, sometimes one, making it difficult to have comprehensive list. Someone like Clark Terry led a big band for a short time, so there probably wouldn't be an article about his band, and there might not be a Big Band category at the bottom of his page. You see the problem. I've avoided categories since an administrator upbraided me for incorrectly editing his articles about New Jersey, specifically Rudy Van Gelder. So far, the most incendiary reaction I've gotten on Wikipedia, though being called a racist by saxophonist Robert Stewart is not far behind.
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Vmavanti (
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19:06, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Do you know of any sensible, higher level, diplomatic administrators who can address the complaints by Mr Stewart? I've been under the impression that Amazon and CDbaby can't be used as sources. Ever. Isn't that correct?
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Vmavanti (
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17:01, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
EVIDENCE of collusion manifest indeed. I'll find a neutral administrator to deal with you two if the article about me isn't left alone and will use the obvious bias -& obsession of you two here as evidence. I have copied this talk page to my computer.
Professor Reason
Professor Reason ( talk) 20:26, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Over 100 source citations by me is evidence supreme. You chopped up verbatim quotes for your personal reasons - biases, not for factual or neutral purposes. You fool no one sir, so please just don't read the article if you dislike the writing there. I promise to forget about you as well. Thanks Professor Reason ( talk) 21:32, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
I changed that one word to "one" rather than "the" as was relayed in my edit summary. You removed whole paragraphs & chopped up verbatim quotes as the edit history shows. So, I've solicited a neutral administrator of whom I relayed the following:
Hello Wikipedia Administrator,
I've been trying for days now to reason with an editor. He's obsessed with removing my actual fact history as one of the premier saxophonist in jazz. Two previous editors approved my article Robert Stewart (saxophonist) almost a year ago now. EddieHugh has come and attempted to delete most of my actual fact history with over 100 citations in the article as evidence. My talk page is filled with my attempts to reason with him and resolve without issue. But, I need the help of an authority as soon as possible. I sincerely thank you for your time. Professor Reason (talk) 00:31, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Wish this didn't have to be this way for the record. Professor Reason ( talk) 01:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Another autobiography??
Arlen Roth article is quite promotional. Or was. There's a red link "Arlenroth" in the View History, but that's not a certainty. Regardless, maybe you can take a look. I worked on it last night but the time was getting late. Thanks.
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Vmavanti (
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05:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
How should long discographies as sideman be handled? Deodato has 1,866 credits at AllMusic. Dave Grusin has 2,477. Do you want me to choose what I think are the most important, which I sometimes know, sometimes not. Do you want me to pick a few by the major acts? Draw names out of a hat? How should I cut down the territory? I find long pages at Wikipedia overwhelming and discouraging to the reader.
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Vmavanti (
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01:58, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Brexit shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
I've read the documentation over and over and still am unclear about how to resolve vandalism from an IP address user. I know I'm supposed to warn them, but I'm not sure how. I ended up creating some page and putting a template of some kind, but I'm not sure that was right. Would you contact the proper administrator to put an end to obvious, juvenile vandalism at
Paul Murphy (musician)?
This idiot has been doing it since November 10. Thanks.
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Vmavanti (
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16:18, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again. Would you take a look at the
Randy Napoleon page? My edits keep getting reverted by someone who is obviously a fan and wants to a have a long section of cheerleading about their favorite musician, i.e. many quotes from reviews saying how great Randy Napoleon is. My favorite is the one in untranslated Hungarian.
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Vmavanti (
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23:41, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
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I am reverting your removal of the reference to the disenfranchised in the referendum result table. This is a valid statistic with direct relevance to the result of the referendum. It may be unusual, but undemocratic totalitarian states excepted, it is unusual for western democracies to disenfranchise their citizens, wherever they live and for however long. Lkingscott ( talk) 08:25, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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