i apologize, this IP address is a school network address and everyone is subject to use it, so i have no idea who did this. 168.16.190.72 01:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page and banning the anon. Unfortunatly, this anon has a vendetta against me and has a history of vandalizing my userpage. He's been banned a couple of times already.-- Kross Talk 01:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi User:151.213.167.25 is continually removing a sentance from the Michael Jackson article that consensus has agreed should stay. I have already reverted twice today. Could you revert back? I have also reported him on WP:AIV as he has had numerous warnings Cheers Funky Monkey 02:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for watching over my user page. I appreciate it! — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, he edited one of my remarks on a talk page, and no one seemed to take issue from it, so I assumed it was standard procedure. It won't happen again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.147.115.42 ( talk • contribs) 01:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
This IP is apparently AKA Imav whose uncivil comment I refactored at Talk:Lost, as per the Remove personal attacks guideline. Thanks for reverting his vandalism of my page. -- Leflyman Talk 02:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Would you be interested in a nomination for adminship? You seem like you've been fighting vandals for about 3 months, which is most people's minimum, and built up enough edits as well as balance of edits that I think you'd have a good chance of success. ( ESkog)( Talk) 00:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your edit here. It's not 3RR. I'm reporting him based on this (specifically "Improper use of dispute tags"). He has done other improper acts, but he has clearly violated this. Aucaman Talk 03:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but I think it would be fair if you at least give me an explanation of what just happened. I seldom report vandalism and I've never seen anything like this. Isn't removing dispute tags when there are ongoing disputes in the talk page considered vandalism? Isn't what User:ManiF has done exactly that? (I put up the dispute tag less than 2-3 days ago and explained my reasoning. As of right now none of my concerns have been addressed and my edits constantly get reverted.) I'm sorry, but what you did is giving some people the idea that removing dispute tags is perfectly fine. Aucaman Talk 06:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Do not place dispute tags improperly, as in when there is no dispute, and the reason for placing the dispute tag is because a suggested edit has failed to meet consensus. Instead, follow
WP:CON and accept that some edits will not meet consensus.
Regards --
ManiF
10:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I noticed your block, and I looked at the contributions of this IP, and I'm not entirely sure. The catapult bot is feeding off the list given at WP:SQUID and I can't vouch for the accuracy of what's already included there. However IMO it's better to err on the side of caution in the case of squidward, and block anybody who even pretends to be squidward until further notice. On the other hand it's possible that this IP performed squidward vandalism on an article which has since been deleted (since squidward selects at random), and thus the pattern vandalism doesn't show up in the contribs, who knows? — Mar. 1, '06 [03:44] < freakof nu rx ture | talk>
Would you be able to lock/protect the page Persians as Aucaman and a few other politically motivated individuals persist on vandalizing it despite a clear majority consensus on Talk:Persian_people? -- ManiF 03:57, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you have asked User:203.32.121.131 to stop vandalising using template {{subst:test3}}. I thought this template was reserved for registered users and that the template {{Anon vandal}} was intended for unregistered users. Am I wrong? Maikel 11:36, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I never got a clear answer from you. Isn't removing dispute tags when there's ongoing talk on the talk page considered vandalism? Well, all I have done is reverting vandalism. Did I have any other choice but to put the tags back in when there is a dispute? Aucaman Talk 16:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi ESkog. I`m grateful you protected the Persian people article. However, if I may say so, it isn`t really fair since User:Aucaman in fact was repeatedly warned and he even erased one of the warnings given to him. This user has broken many rules and repeatedlyuses his POV, and had even used racist language numerous of time. I hope you can investigate this a bit further. Thanks. Zmmz 02:15, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
===>Gotcha Thanks. - Justin (koavf), talk 03:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you! Hi ESkog/Archive6 thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota ~ ° 15:59, 3 March 2006 (UTC) |
Thank you for your support of my successful request for adminship. I am honoured that the nomination was supported unanimously and that the community expressed confidence that I would use the tools wisely. If you have any concerns please let me know on my talk page. Regards A Y Arktos 20:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to draw your attention to this page regarding user Talk. This is a clear, and unfair personal attack: "In fact I am discussing with a racist Qashqai turk pasdar terrorist pro ahmadinejad who even do not recognize UN emblem and think it is PDK's" Diyako, 03:14, 28 December 2005 (UTC). I think this going too far, and I wish one the admins comes and clean-up some of these discussion pages. Thanks Zmmz 00:21, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I`m not sure if user Diyako is referring to me, but if he or she is, I have never said such a thing, nor ever attacked this or any other user. Rest assured of that ESkog. Thanks Zmmz 01:22, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm in the process of reorganizing the Talk page for the sake of coherence. I'm careful not to remove any information. Please assume good faith. And please, I feel like I'm being harassed by you. -- Haldrik 18:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's my bedtime, but I hope whenever you come back, you notice all the furor that the guy you blocked for edit warring at Sermon on the Mount and Last Supper has been causing again with the exact same stuff at those same articles as well as at 3RR, now that his block's expired... He has even gone to the 5th or 6th revert within an hour on at least one of them, but apparently thinks he's justified ... Seems like I'm the only one watching any of those pages at the moment, where are all the admins when ya need 'em, I tell ya! ANyway, thanks for all your help... Regards, ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 02:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
feel free to read up on this. Dispite all my attempts at discussion, Codex mearly reverts and then whines that no one will discuss the changes.... Take a loke at the notice board for a look at what is going on, since that is THE ONLY place that I have managed to get an open dialog with codex going.
134.161.241.176
02:52, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
In response to what you wrote on my talk page: Note, before the 24 hrs are up, he's come back now with another terminal (slightly different IP) and begun the edit warring again on Sermon on the Mount, in addition to leaving a totally ridiculous and confused report about my "vandalism" at Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress -- where among other things, he says I "insist on debating", but I simultaneously "refuse to discuss" (which is it, I wonder?) -- ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 01:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for reverting my userpage when the anon vandalized it for a second time. I really appreciate it. ^_^ -- Viridian {Talk} 02:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Vandalized again, blocked. Also created hoax articles Takomanu and Hadi Tacosolavni. -- Curps 05:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Eric? It's Tristan.
Tristan 07:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I have not submitted nonsense about Mr Hands. This is a well known video in the internet community and I felt I should inform people about it. Please feel free to view the video, and you will see that my entry is true. I merely wish to inform people so that they do not actually suffer the same fate of being linked to a seemly innocent video and can use wikipedia to find information about it instead.
I have just read the wikipedia rules for deletion and speedy deletion criterion and believe that this article does not break any rules. Please review the article. JaJake 22:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
could you block 203.87.98.23? they keep vandalizing on monsoon.-- B.U. Football For Life| Talk 01:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I am obese.... do you even know what its like to be 536 lbs and unable to stand up because you're so fat? I'm so heavy... I am miserable... I'm like a giant blob of adipose tissue. Please stop tormenting me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.81.148.16 ( talk • contribs) 01:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Why did you use a picture of me for your article on
obesity? My family sold that picture without my permission... I am so ashamed... I've grown even fatter since that picture was taken. I am a giant mass of garbage. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
66.81.148.16 (
talk •
contribs) 01:37, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I am so heavy... so heavy... please help me.... please deliver me from my fat....—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.81.148.16 ( talk • contribs) 01:37, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Are the two Father Damien photos the same? 132.241.245.49 01:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for reverting my user page after it was vandalized. I think this may have been the payback after I removed a lot of linkspam. Zora 01:36, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
ESkog, block me. Please. I have nothing positive to contribute to this wiki, because I am a just a corpulent mass of crap. I am morbidly obese, and I come on this site simply to make comments about my fat in the hopes that some kind soul will deliver me from my obesity. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.81.148.16 ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I was making constructive edits on that page. Why were they reverted? (Yes, I did cut off a bunch, but I was about to fix it when I noticed you reverted.) PrometheusX303 03:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page (and blocking the IP)! :) Hbackman 04:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
ESkog, I weigh 536 lbs. I do not have any friends, because I cannot get off of my sofa and go outside. I have not left my sofa in over six months. I eat, sleep, live, work, and go to the bathroom here. Will you be my online buddy? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.81.150.78 ( talk • contribs) 04:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
He is already evading your block as User:166.102.104.55. - Chadbryant 05:27, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I edit conflicted you to fix those tags. :P -- Zsinj Talk 16:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
My name is Chris Swope, and I'm a reporter with Governing Magazine, working on a piece on governors' Wikipedia profiles. I'd love to talk with you about the little skirmish you weighed in on over Gov. Sebelius' gun views. You seemed to have the middle-of-the-road view on it. If you'd like to talk, please email me at cswope@governing.com.
Chris Swope
I graduated from Chapman High in 2003, and a lot of my friends went to KU the next school year. (I go to K-State if you're wondering. ) So, do you know any KU-er (or however they're called) from Chapman?
PS: Does KU have Korean Language classes? K-State doesn't, and if KU does, I might feel like defecting over there... -- Shultz III 22:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry but there is already another fansite link there so delete that one or else I will keep adding mine —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.143.44.160 ( talk • contribs) 23:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help and patience: I am no longer autoblocked. Cheers! Cowman Talk 01:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey there! I emailed Kate back and forth on this today. Pig is banned, and I was told I can revert personal attacks on me, and not to answer them. That is what I am doing. None of the personal stuff does anything, including that by me, to help the article. But I did "talk" with an editor about this specifically. My responses were deleted, and so were his attacks, and no more of either will be posted. Take care! old windy bear 03:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
You had deleted my change in List of antagonists in Xenosaga#Albedo, as I had done it anonymously by accident. However, the deletion of that information was intentional, and discussed by myself and two others in the "Discussion" tab of that article. Sorry for the confusion. Cyfin 04:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Would appreciate a second (third? fourth?) set of eyes on this page, when you get a chance.
A persistent user is seeking to add original research and unsourced claims.
Not only should that material not be added, but -- as indicated by a third party commenter the other day -- the page as it is contains far too much original research on both sides.
I'm a little worn out by the hostility and the attempt to commence a flame war on the talk page. I wonder whether this page belongs in Wikipedia at all, given the sourcing problem and the constant persistent effort to turn this page into a campaign flyer by anti-naked shorting advocates.
Anyway, would appreciate your thoughts on the above.-- Tomstoner 17:08, 10 March 2006 (UTC)(revised a day or so later)
i apologize, this IP address is a school network address and everyone is subject to use it, so i have no idea who did this. 168.16.190.72 01:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my page and banning the anon. Unfortunatly, this anon has a vendetta against me and has a history of vandalizing my userpage. He's been banned a couple of times already.-- Kross Talk 01:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi User:151.213.167.25 is continually removing a sentance from the Michael Jackson article that consensus has agreed should stay. I have already reverted twice today. Could you revert back? I have also reported him on WP:AIV as he has had numerous warnings Cheers Funky Monkey 02:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for watching over my user page. I appreciate it! — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, he edited one of my remarks on a talk page, and no one seemed to take issue from it, so I assumed it was standard procedure. It won't happen again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.147.115.42 ( talk • contribs) 01:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
This IP is apparently AKA Imav whose uncivil comment I refactored at Talk:Lost, as per the Remove personal attacks guideline. Thanks for reverting his vandalism of my page. -- Leflyman Talk 02:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Would you be interested in a nomination for adminship? You seem like you've been fighting vandals for about 3 months, which is most people's minimum, and built up enough edits as well as balance of edits that I think you'd have a good chance of success. ( ESkog)( Talk) 00:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your edit here. It's not 3RR. I'm reporting him based on this (specifically "Improper use of dispute tags"). He has done other improper acts, but he has clearly violated this. Aucaman Talk 03:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but I think it would be fair if you at least give me an explanation of what just happened. I seldom report vandalism and I've never seen anything like this. Isn't removing dispute tags when there are ongoing disputes in the talk page considered vandalism? Isn't what User:ManiF has done exactly that? (I put up the dispute tag less than 2-3 days ago and explained my reasoning. As of right now none of my concerns have been addressed and my edits constantly get reverted.) I'm sorry, but what you did is giving some people the idea that removing dispute tags is perfectly fine. Aucaman Talk 06:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Do not place dispute tags improperly, as in when there is no dispute, and the reason for placing the dispute tag is because a suggested edit has failed to meet consensus. Instead, follow
WP:CON and accept that some edits will not meet consensus.
Regards --
ManiF
10:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I noticed your block, and I looked at the contributions of this IP, and I'm not entirely sure. The catapult bot is feeding off the list given at WP:SQUID and I can't vouch for the accuracy of what's already included there. However IMO it's better to err on the side of caution in the case of squidward, and block anybody who even pretends to be squidward until further notice. On the other hand it's possible that this IP performed squidward vandalism on an article which has since been deleted (since squidward selects at random), and thus the pattern vandalism doesn't show up in the contribs, who knows? — Mar. 1, '06 [03:44] < freakof nu rx ture | talk>
Would you be able to lock/protect the page Persians as Aucaman and a few other politically motivated individuals persist on vandalizing it despite a clear majority consensus on Talk:Persian_people? -- ManiF 03:57, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you have asked User:203.32.121.131 to stop vandalising using template {{subst:test3}}. I thought this template was reserved for registered users and that the template {{Anon vandal}} was intended for unregistered users. Am I wrong? Maikel 11:36, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I never got a clear answer from you. Isn't removing dispute tags when there's ongoing talk on the talk page considered vandalism? Well, all I have done is reverting vandalism. Did I have any other choice but to put the tags back in when there is a dispute? Aucaman Talk 16:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi ESkog. I`m grateful you protected the Persian people article. However, if I may say so, it isn`t really fair since User:Aucaman in fact was repeatedly warned and he even erased one of the warnings given to him. This user has broken many rules and repeatedlyuses his POV, and had even used racist language numerous of time. I hope you can investigate this a bit further. Thanks. Zmmz 02:15, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
===>Gotcha Thanks. - Justin (koavf), talk 03:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you! Hi ESkog/Archive6 thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota ~ ° 15:59, 3 March 2006 (UTC) |
Thank you for your support of my successful request for adminship. I am honoured that the nomination was supported unanimously and that the community expressed confidence that I would use the tools wisely. If you have any concerns please let me know on my talk page. Regards A Y Arktos 20:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to draw your attention to this page regarding user Talk. This is a clear, and unfair personal attack: "In fact I am discussing with a racist Qashqai turk pasdar terrorist pro ahmadinejad who even do not recognize UN emblem and think it is PDK's" Diyako, 03:14, 28 December 2005 (UTC). I think this going too far, and I wish one the admins comes and clean-up some of these discussion pages. Thanks Zmmz 00:21, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I`m not sure if user Diyako is referring to me, but if he or she is, I have never said such a thing, nor ever attacked this or any other user. Rest assured of that ESkog. Thanks Zmmz 01:22, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm in the process of reorganizing the Talk page for the sake of coherence. I'm careful not to remove any information. Please assume good faith. And please, I feel like I'm being harassed by you. -- Haldrik 18:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's my bedtime, but I hope whenever you come back, you notice all the furor that the guy you blocked for edit warring at Sermon on the Mount and Last Supper has been causing again with the exact same stuff at those same articles as well as at 3RR, now that his block's expired... He has even gone to the 5th or 6th revert within an hour on at least one of them, but apparently thinks he's justified ... Seems like I'm the only one watching any of those pages at the moment, where are all the admins when ya need 'em, I tell ya! ANyway, thanks for all your help... Regards, ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 02:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
feel free to read up on this. Dispite all my attempts at discussion, Codex mearly reverts and then whines that no one will discuss the changes.... Take a loke at the notice board for a look at what is going on, since that is THE ONLY place that I have managed to get an open dialog with codex going.
134.161.241.176
02:52, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
In response to what you wrote on my talk page: Note, before the 24 hrs are up, he's come back now with another terminal (slightly different IP) and begun the edit warring again on Sermon on the Mount, in addition to leaving a totally ridiculous and confused report about my "vandalism" at Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress -- where among other things, he says I "insist on debating", but I simultaneously "refuse to discuss" (which is it, I wonder?) -- ፈቃደ ( ውይይት) 01:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for reverting my userpage when the anon vandalized it for a second time. I really appreciate it. ^_^ -- Viridian {Talk} 02:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Vandalized again, blocked. Also created hoax articles Takomanu and Hadi Tacosolavni. -- Curps 05:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Eric? It's Tristan.
Tristan 07:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I have not submitted nonsense about Mr Hands. This is a well known video in the internet community and I felt I should inform people about it. Please feel free to view the video, and you will see that my entry is true. I merely wish to inform people so that they do not actually suffer the same fate of being linked to a seemly innocent video and can use wikipedia to find information about it instead.
I have just read the wikipedia rules for deletion and speedy deletion criterion and believe that this article does not break any rules. Please review the article. JaJake 22:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
could you block 203.87.98.23? they keep vandalizing on monsoon.-- B.U. Football For Life| Talk 01:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I am obese.... do you even know what its like to be 536 lbs and unable to stand up because you're so fat? I'm so heavy... I am miserable... I'm like a giant blob of adipose tissue. Please stop tormenting me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.81.148.16 ( talk • contribs) 01:28, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Why did you use a picture of me for your article on
obesity? My family sold that picture without my permission... I am so ashamed... I've grown even fatter since that picture was taken. I am a giant mass of garbage. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
66.81.148.16 (
talk •
contribs) 01:37, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I am so heavy... so heavy... please help me.... please deliver me from my fat....—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.81.148.16 ( talk • contribs) 01:37, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Are the two Father Damien photos the same? 132.241.245.49 01:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for reverting my user page after it was vandalized. I think this may have been the payback after I removed a lot of linkspam. Zora 01:36, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
ESkog, block me. Please. I have nothing positive to contribute to this wiki, because I am a just a corpulent mass of crap. I am morbidly obese, and I come on this site simply to make comments about my fat in the hopes that some kind soul will deliver me from my obesity. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.81.148.16 ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I was making constructive edits on that page. Why were they reverted? (Yes, I did cut off a bunch, but I was about to fix it when I noticed you reverted.) PrometheusX303 03:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page (and blocking the IP)! :) Hbackman 04:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
ESkog, I weigh 536 lbs. I do not have any friends, because I cannot get off of my sofa and go outside. I have not left my sofa in over six months. I eat, sleep, live, work, and go to the bathroom here. Will you be my online buddy? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.81.150.78 ( talk • contribs) 04:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
He is already evading your block as User:166.102.104.55. - Chadbryant 05:27, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I edit conflicted you to fix those tags. :P -- Zsinj Talk 16:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
My name is Chris Swope, and I'm a reporter with Governing Magazine, working on a piece on governors' Wikipedia profiles. I'd love to talk with you about the little skirmish you weighed in on over Gov. Sebelius' gun views. You seemed to have the middle-of-the-road view on it. If you'd like to talk, please email me at cswope@governing.com.
Chris Swope
I graduated from Chapman High in 2003, and a lot of my friends went to KU the next school year. (I go to K-State if you're wondering. ) So, do you know any KU-er (or however they're called) from Chapman?
PS: Does KU have Korean Language classes? K-State doesn't, and if KU does, I might feel like defecting over there... -- Shultz III 22:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry but there is already another fansite link there so delete that one or else I will keep adding mine —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.143.44.160 ( talk • contribs) 23:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help and patience: I am no longer autoblocked. Cheers! Cowman Talk 01:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey there! I emailed Kate back and forth on this today. Pig is banned, and I was told I can revert personal attacks on me, and not to answer them. That is what I am doing. None of the personal stuff does anything, including that by me, to help the article. But I did "talk" with an editor about this specifically. My responses were deleted, and so were his attacks, and no more of either will be posted. Take care! old windy bear 03:47, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
You had deleted my change in List of antagonists in Xenosaga#Albedo, as I had done it anonymously by accident. However, the deletion of that information was intentional, and discussed by myself and two others in the "Discussion" tab of that article. Sorry for the confusion. Cyfin 04:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Would appreciate a second (third? fourth?) set of eyes on this page, when you get a chance.
A persistent user is seeking to add original research and unsourced claims.
Not only should that material not be added, but -- as indicated by a third party commenter the other day -- the page as it is contains far too much original research on both sides.
I'm a little worn out by the hostility and the attempt to commence a flame war on the talk page. I wonder whether this page belongs in Wikipedia at all, given the sourcing problem and the constant persistent effort to turn this page into a campaign flyer by anti-naked shorting advocates.
Anyway, would appreciate your thoughts on the above.-- Tomstoner 17:08, 10 March 2006 (UTC)(revised a day or so later)