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It's all speculation until he's sworn in. Franken has said he will be on HELP, Judiciary, Aging, and Indian Affairs. Aging and Indian Affairs have one vacancy, and HELP has Whitehouse in temporarily. Judiciary is unknown. I think the Senate will adopt a resolution appointing Franken to his committees the same day he's sworn in, which could be as early as Monday. I don't want to speculate on who might leave Judiciary, but it's likely that someone will have to leave to make room for Franken. Or, because of the Specter switch, they may just expand the committee by one more Dem and one more Republican. It's anyone's guess. DCmacnut <> 16:36, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
From the following CRS Report
"Each senator is limited to service on two "A" committees and one of the "B" committees. Service on "C" committees is unrestricted. Exceptions to the restrictions are recommended by the pertinent party conference and then official authorized through Senate approval of a resolution affecting one or more Senators. Sometimes these exceptions are authorized to accord the majority party a working majority on a committee, whereas at other times exceptions are made to accomodate the preferences and needs of individual senators."
Currently, Bill Nelson, Sheldon Whitehouse serve on 3 "B" Committees. Budget, Aging, and Intelligence. Part of the reason why people seem to be doubling up on intelligence is that after the September 11th Attacks, the committee's minimum size was permanently increased. With 60 Democrats and 40 Republicans, and a number of committees to fill, there are always deviations. The committee ratio-assignement process is always a game of give and take between the two parties. The rules, in practice, serve as more of a guide than a hard-fast rule. And, when there are huge swings in party control like the last two elections, it's more likely that there will be deviations from the rule to ensure no senator is forced to give up a committee assignment just so they can take on a new one to give the majority control of that committee. Arlen Specter's party switch made that all the more realistic, since the Democrats now have a 5-seat majority on most of the committee's he served as a Republican, and just 3 seats on most others. DCmacnut <> 18:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I've got nothing. He was a friend and colleague, and I'm still dealing with the loss. DCmacnut <> 13:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
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You should probably read the Chronological List before making anymore of these pre-1959 articles. The current factors for deciding seniority do not go back that far. In fact, seniority was not even a big deal in the first hundred years or so of the Republic because there was so much turnover. Also, we no longer link dates to autoformat, and "March 4th", as opposed to "March 4" is incorrect under WP:MOS. - Rrius ( talk) 10:56, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, the date of election and the date of service are two different things. It's the date of service that determines seniority. For instance, take Al Franken, for instance. He was elected officially in November 2008, however, the recount and challenge pushed him upto the process back to July, when he was finally declared won. He entered congress as the most junior senator (despite if he had taken his seat on January 3rd, 2009, he would have been between Kay Hagan and Jeff Merkeley. So, his date of election was November 3rd. The date his term started was January 3rd, 2008. However, he didn't actually take his seat until July 7, when his credentials were presented, and he was sworn in to be Senator. The official congressional biography says (in part): "following a June 30, 2009, decision in his favor by the Minnesota state supreme court, he took the oath of office and began service on July 7, 2009." This matches up with his seniority date on the Senate Seniority Wikipedia list. If it was truly date of election, wouldn't it be listed s either January 3rd, or June 30 (when he became the Senator Elect). Why July 3rd? Dunstvangeet ( talk) 15:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The article title states that this list is for the 30th congress, but the text reads "28th congress". I am from England, so I clearly have no idea which is the correct number - I would be grateful for your correction of this. Many thanks. Gilo ö 05:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
I see that you've already created commented-out entries for the Senators entering as a result of the 2010 elections. I wanted to give you a heads-up that the list is not yet set in stone, particularly with regard to those succeeding appointees (Rubio, Coons and Kirk). Their swearing-in dates may vary, and it's not clear to me whether they will be retroactively given seniority starting the day after the election. Also, the 2010 Census results will be officially delivered by December 31 (i.e, before the beginning of the next Congress), and I don't know whether the bigger-state tiebreaker in the 112th Congress will be based on 2000 or 2010 data. Without looking it up, I don't know if any of the states with incoming Senators have changed their population rankings in comparison to each other as a result of the new Census, but it can't yet be ruled out. It might be best to hold off on creating the list until the Secretary of the Senate (who is the authoritative source) issues the rankings, probably when the new Congress convenes or slightly before. JTRH ( talk) 15:25, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
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It's all speculation until he's sworn in. Franken has said he will be on HELP, Judiciary, Aging, and Indian Affairs. Aging and Indian Affairs have one vacancy, and HELP has Whitehouse in temporarily. Judiciary is unknown. I think the Senate will adopt a resolution appointing Franken to his committees the same day he's sworn in, which could be as early as Monday. I don't want to speculate on who might leave Judiciary, but it's likely that someone will have to leave to make room for Franken. Or, because of the Specter switch, they may just expand the committee by one more Dem and one more Republican. It's anyone's guess. DCmacnut <> 16:36, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
From the following CRS Report
"Each senator is limited to service on two "A" committees and one of the "B" committees. Service on "C" committees is unrestricted. Exceptions to the restrictions are recommended by the pertinent party conference and then official authorized through Senate approval of a resolution affecting one or more Senators. Sometimes these exceptions are authorized to accord the majority party a working majority on a committee, whereas at other times exceptions are made to accomodate the preferences and needs of individual senators."
Currently, Bill Nelson, Sheldon Whitehouse serve on 3 "B" Committees. Budget, Aging, and Intelligence. Part of the reason why people seem to be doubling up on intelligence is that after the September 11th Attacks, the committee's minimum size was permanently increased. With 60 Democrats and 40 Republicans, and a number of committees to fill, there are always deviations. The committee ratio-assignement process is always a game of give and take between the two parties. The rules, in practice, serve as more of a guide than a hard-fast rule. And, when there are huge swings in party control like the last two elections, it's more likely that there will be deviations from the rule to ensure no senator is forced to give up a committee assignment just so they can take on a new one to give the majority control of that committee. Arlen Specter's party switch made that all the more realistic, since the Democrats now have a 5-seat majority on most of the committee's he served as a Republican, and just 3 seats on most others. DCmacnut <> 18:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I've got nothing. He was a friend and colleague, and I'm still dealing with the loss. DCmacnut <> 13:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I have nominated List of United States Senators in the 112th Congress by seniority, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States Senators in the 112th Congress by seniority. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Rrius ( talk) 22:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
You should probably read the Chronological List before making anymore of these pre-1959 articles. The current factors for deciding seniority do not go back that far. In fact, seniority was not even a big deal in the first hundred years or so of the Republic because there was so much turnover. Also, we no longer link dates to autoformat, and "March 4th", as opposed to "March 4" is incorrect under WP:MOS. - Rrius ( talk) 10:56, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, the date of election and the date of service are two different things. It's the date of service that determines seniority. For instance, take Al Franken, for instance. He was elected officially in November 2008, however, the recount and challenge pushed him upto the process back to July, when he was finally declared won. He entered congress as the most junior senator (despite if he had taken his seat on January 3rd, 2009, he would have been between Kay Hagan and Jeff Merkeley. So, his date of election was November 3rd. The date his term started was January 3rd, 2008. However, he didn't actually take his seat until July 7, when his credentials were presented, and he was sworn in to be Senator. The official congressional biography says (in part): "following a June 30, 2009, decision in his favor by the Minnesota state supreme court, he took the oath of office and began service on July 7, 2009." This matches up with his seniority date on the Senate Seniority Wikipedia list. If it was truly date of election, wouldn't it be listed s either January 3rd, or June 30 (when he became the Senator Elect). Why July 3rd? Dunstvangeet ( talk) 15:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The article title states that this list is for the 30th congress, but the text reads "28th congress". I am from England, so I clearly have no idea which is the correct number - I would be grateful for your correction of this. Many thanks. Gilo ö 05:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
I see that you've already created commented-out entries for the Senators entering as a result of the 2010 elections. I wanted to give you a heads-up that the list is not yet set in stone, particularly with regard to those succeeding appointees (Rubio, Coons and Kirk). Their swearing-in dates may vary, and it's not clear to me whether they will be retroactively given seniority starting the day after the election. Also, the 2010 Census results will be officially delivered by December 31 (i.e, before the beginning of the next Congress), and I don't know whether the bigger-state tiebreaker in the 112th Congress will be based on 2000 or 2010 data. Without looking it up, I don't know if any of the states with incoming Senators have changed their population rankings in comparison to each other as a result of the new Census, but it can't yet be ruled out. It might be best to hold off on creating the list until the Secretary of the Senate (who is the authoritative source) issues the rankings, probably when the new Congress convenes or slightly before. JTRH ( talk) 15:25, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
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