Just because Slovenia agrees with the call does not mean there wasn't universal criticism of the call. Slovenia is operating from a bias viewpoint. Everyone else in the world thinks he made a bad call or was perhaps taking money. Also, you should not add the word "some" to the article, because everyone thinks he made the wrong call. You justified this by saying that it is a US position, but that is not true. The whole world believes that except for slovenia.
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Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies & Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and cease making constant changes to BLP's without discussing them first, and using edit summaries for communication. There is no conspiracy against Asians born in the US being called American, the simple fact is people like Jessica Jung are clearly notable for being Korean, there is no evidence to suggest she has American citizenship or considers herself exclusively American in the article as it stands. She lives in Korea, became notable in Korea, and works in Korea. There is a distinct lack of reason in Jessica Jung's article to suggest why she should even be called Korean American, but I have changed it to this simply because there is no evidence to suggest what she prefers to be known as or what citizenship she has. That is why I have requested sources to be found to clear up the matter of her nationality. One thing for sure, her Korean identity and justification for its inclusion in the lead section is not in doubt. Please familiarise yourself with the relevant guidelines. -- Τασουλα ( talk) 20:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
I've moved the page back to what it originally was. If you object to that, you are more than welcome to request a move but moving it back again would be ill-advised, given that he is normally known as Shin-Soo Choo. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C) 03:30, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
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Choo Shin-soo is his name and not the other way around. This "consensus" that is referred to in this Wikipedia is by a group of Eurocentrists who have no knowledge of non-European naming conventions, especially those from East Asia. Someone has posted that because Major League Baseball and English-written publications (presumably in the USA) refer to the player as Shin-soo Choo, that's the way it should be. That would be very a naive and ignorant (prejudiced) conclusion. The last time I checked, English wikipedia is not the American or European Wikipedia. English is a global language, hence there are thousands of English-written articles from around the world (particularly in East Asia) that refer to the person as Choo Shin-soo or Choo Shinsoo, not Shin-soo Choo. Here are some clear examples: ?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000021-QINU?1?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000022-QINU?; ?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000024-QINU?2?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000025-QINU?; ?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000027-QINU?3?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000028-QINU? Additionally, Ryu Hyun-jin, a pitcher for the LA Dodgers, is listed (correctly) as Ryu Hyun-jin in wikipedia. Are you going to change that too? Ducati748 ( talk) 20:55, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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Just because Slovenia agrees with the call does not mean there wasn't universal criticism of the call. Slovenia is operating from a bias viewpoint. Everyone else in the world thinks he made a bad call or was perhaps taking money. Also, you should not add the word "some" to the article, because everyone thinks he made the wrong call. You justified this by saying that it is a US position, but that is not true. The whole world believes that except for slovenia.
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Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies & Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and cease making constant changes to BLP's without discussing them first, and using edit summaries for communication. There is no conspiracy against Asians born in the US being called American, the simple fact is people like Jessica Jung are clearly notable for being Korean, there is no evidence to suggest she has American citizenship or considers herself exclusively American in the article as it stands. She lives in Korea, became notable in Korea, and works in Korea. There is a distinct lack of reason in Jessica Jung's article to suggest why she should even be called Korean American, but I have changed it to this simply because there is no evidence to suggest what she prefers to be known as or what citizenship she has. That is why I have requested sources to be found to clear up the matter of her nationality. One thing for sure, her Korean identity and justification for its inclusion in the lead section is not in doubt. Please familiarise yourself with the relevant guidelines. -- Τασουλα ( talk) 20:32, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
I've moved the page back to what it originally was. If you object to that, you are more than welcome to request a move but moving it back again would be ill-advised, given that he is normally known as Shin-Soo Choo. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C) 03:30, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against
naming conventions or
consensus, as you did to
Shin-Soo Choo. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains under way. We have some
guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the
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Choo Shin-soo is his name and not the other way around. This "consensus" that is referred to in this Wikipedia is by a group of Eurocentrists who have no knowledge of non-European naming conventions, especially those from East Asia. Someone has posted that because Major League Baseball and English-written publications (presumably in the USA) refer to the player as Shin-soo Choo, that's the way it should be. That would be very a naive and ignorant (prejudiced) conclusion. The last time I checked, English wikipedia is not the American or European Wikipedia. English is a global language, hence there are thousands of English-written articles from around the world (particularly in East Asia) that refer to the person as Choo Shin-soo or Choo Shinsoo, not Shin-soo Choo. Here are some clear examples: ?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000021-QINU?1?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000022-QINU?; ?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000024-QINU?2?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000025-QINU?; ?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000027-QINU?3?UNIQ972fd99da0c84113-nowiki-00000028-QINU? Additionally, Ryu Hyun-jin, a pitcher for the LA Dodgers, is listed (correctly) as Ryu Hyun-jin in wikipedia. Are you going to change that too? Ducati748 ( talk) 20:55, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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