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It is not up to you to clerk the talk pages. Kindly do not move people's comments into sections, change section titles, or enshrine comments of your own in little boxes at the beginning of sections. Just follow along and use the talk pages in the same way everyone else is - acoording to the WP:TPG. MrOllie ( talk) 20:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, but the sections have been totally reorganized. I don't care for much of this reorganization, except for the fact that a section which discusses "attributing or not" or "fact or not" is presented as being an aspect of not taking side. Therefore, I restored that aspect of the structure to its original state before this big reorganization. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 20:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Even if the sections have been totally reorganized, you are making the problem worse. Don't do that. MrOllie ( talk) 20:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Maybe you are right, but I sincerely thought it was a good compromise: I accepted this big reorganisation that affected a lot the existing comments by changing the context, but I expressed a disaccord. I am also OK with simply restoring the structure (partially, for what matter the most) to its state before this big reorganization. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 20:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Edits like this one you made yesterday also changed the context of comments. Just don't do it any more, and let other folks worry about their own behaviour. MrOllie ( talk) 20:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Of course it changes the context of comments, but that is the idea. Editors, as long as it is done in the spirit of a better understanding, are certainly allowed to reorganize sections. You speak as if other folks have broken a rule, but they did not, even if they did that boldly without any previous discussions. It was just a very normal process of making change to the sections. What is wrong is to make a big deal about this and accusing people of disruption, etc. only because you disagree with a change (but I know that it is not what you are doing here - I am not speaking of you). It is the same thing for the box. There is certainly no rule that says that we should not add a box to explain an aspect of the organization. The most serious issue here is when disagreements about content (and organization) are escalated into behavioural issues with the menace always planning that you might be blocked if you do not comply, as it is well explained here. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 21:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

What you have been doing on that talk page is not a 'very normal process', it is disruptive. There, I have accused you of disruption. Kindly listen and reevaluate what you have been doing. As a participant in that discussion you should not be attempting to reorganize it. MrOllie ( talk) 21:11, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

I take seriously comments like this one. I understand that principle, which is consistent with Grisel explanation. I was planning to take my distance from the discussion anyway. Dominic Mayers ( talk) 21:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC)