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Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! Bananasoldier ( talk) 00:06, 4 January 2015 (UTC) |
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I appreciate that you took a look at my draft. I have tried to make some amendments. Would you mind looking at it again please? Thanks! Jaclyn at the IIJ ( talk) 14:06, 5 January 2015 (UTC) |
Thanks, I appreciate it! I am in the process of reviewing it currently I will get back to you. Discant X 08:01, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
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I saw your reply to the question "How can Wiki be kinder" and I should say that I'm impressed by your answer. What you said was absolutely true.
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I've been seeing other proposals in the council and it appears that they hardly get any discussion going on. I think we should just start the project ourselves. You already wrote a nice lede for it in the proposal, so I could use it. I will start this project, and if it doesn't work for some reason, I take full responsibility.
Edit: I made a logo for the group! Tetra quark ( don't be shy) 13:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I guess you'll have to change the name of the project. It should be just "Lede Improvement WikiProject". Just create that page and add a redirect on the current one Tetra quark ( don't be shy) 04:52, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for the warm welcome, Widr! Discant X 06:01, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello! I am pretty new to wikipedia, and I saw that a few of my pages were patrolled by you. I looked at the wikipedia page about patrolled pages, but I am still a bit confused as to what this means. I was hoping you could explain this in more detail. CiKay ( talk) 18:11, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi-I don't know where the warning templates are located so I can use them. Many thanks- RFD ( talk) 20:05, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
@ DiscantX: @ John: @ Tetra quark:
I was going to take a break for a few days till things settle down, but I want to refer to DiscantX statement that, "Tetra has been "poked." His comments on his talk page should never have been struck (I almost reverted that myself, but again, I didn't want to get involved), which though I don't think is a fact that is being disputed actually... it appeared to me to be a provocation." [1]
I presume you are referring to me in causing the provocation here. I refute the fact that he was provoked into this action, as this User had the opportunity to revert the offending edits. He did not do so, and had ample time to correct it by a retraction (striking). He was advised under WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL that clearly says; "In the event of rudeness or incivility on the part of another editor, it may be appropriate to discuss the offending words with that editor, and to request that editor to change that specific wording. Some care is necessary, however, so as not to further inflame the situation. It is not normally appropriate to edit or remove another editor's comment. Exceptions include to remove obvious trolling or vandalism, or if the comment is on your own user talk page. Derogatory comments about another contributor may be removed by any editor."
Saying "Look: F--- off. Who the f--- do you think you are, you little s—?" by this user is derogatory, and frankly plainly insulting. Insulting is apparently fine, but derogatory statements are not.
Yet this is clearly already provocative (a derogatory too), and it made me feel annoyed, angry and insulted. Yet, multiple times this user had ignore the requests to correct the statements, so this justified me evoking WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL.
I choose not to be bullied into feeling this way. (That's my 'right', too.)
The statement "Honestly, you're the only one who seem to care about something that passed almost unnoticed." [2] The reason I care is that the derogative remark was directed at ME, and the only reason he cared about keeping it was "I don't have the obligation to allow an user to arbitrarily modify my own messages in my own talk page." [3], "All I wanted was to make use of my right to keep my talk page messages as I wanted them to be, and that's just it." [4], and that "I, several times, say that I don't want to discuss such a trivial issue." [5] or "Also, I said a dozen times I din't want to get into a discussion." [6]
If this can't be discussed, is dismissed as trivial, and feels they are not obliged to change it, the WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL was my only option left.
This user says to John; "Do you understand that people get angry when they are poked?" [7]
Yes I do, because the response to this issue is exactly as I feel. Leaving derogatory insults and not retracting them is also 'poking' and a 'provocation'?
In the end, refusing to remove this means he actually believes it, and thus clearly breaking and bluntly ignoring WP:CIV. The five pillars of wisdom says "Editors should treat each other with respect and civility:" [8] and is a fundamental pillar of Wikipedia.
Saying on my User Page "To conclude, I'd like to say that the main reason why I don't want the text striked is that I am not very fond of ariane, and I don't want to see him making changes on my page." [9] confirms not acting in WP:GF.
So. What actual harm is being done to Wikipedia here?
Derogatory remarks do hurt people, and dissuades them from editing. I.e. I've said regarding editing Cosmology pages, "Even my own recent edits have backed off on these subjects to avoid open conflict." and "…I fear the possible accusation of WP:HARASSMENT here, but the central issue comes back to my ability of editing cosmology and astronomy articles." [10]
But what is worse here, is the derogatory statements are still there. (I don't know how to fix this now, especially if I'm somehow accused of 'poking.' Suggestion?)
(Perhaps if TQ was only to state he is willing to remove all of them himself, it would be a great indication of goodwill towards civility. It is his decision alone.)
Here, I wanted to be absolutely crystal clear about what has happened.
Hie, i removed that content because there is a already a correct and true page of Damodar Raao http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damodar_Raao
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Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:31, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! Bananasoldier ( talk) 00:06, 4 January 2015 (UTC) |
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I appreciate that you took a look at my draft. I have tried to make some amendments. Would you mind looking at it again please? Thanks! Jaclyn at the IIJ ( talk) 14:06, 5 January 2015 (UTC) |
Thanks, I appreciate it! I am in the process of reviewing it currently I will get back to you. Discant X 08:01, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
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I saw your reply to the question "How can Wiki be kinder" and I should say that I'm impressed by your answer. What you said was absolutely true.
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I've been seeing other proposals in the council and it appears that they hardly get any discussion going on. I think we should just start the project ourselves. You already wrote a nice lede for it in the proposal, so I could use it. I will start this project, and if it doesn't work for some reason, I take full responsibility.
Edit: I made a logo for the group! Tetra quark ( don't be shy) 13:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
I guess you'll have to change the name of the project. It should be just "Lede Improvement WikiProject". Just create that page and add a redirect on the current one Tetra quark ( don't be shy) 04:52, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
I have granted rollback rights to your account. After a review of some of your contributions, I believe you can be trusted to use rollback for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, contact me and I will remove it. Good luck and thanks. 04:01, 27 January 2015 (UTC)– Gilliam ( talk)
Hello, DiscantX, and welcome to STiki! Thank you for your recent contributions using our tool. We at STiki hope you like using the tool and decide to continue using it in the future. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: Here are some pages which are a little more fun:
We hope you enjoy maintaining Wikipedia with STiki! If you have any questions, problems, or suggestions don't hesitate to drop a note over at the STiki talk page and we'll be more than happy to help. Again, welcome, and thanks! West.andrew.g (developer) and Widr ( talk) 05:56, 3 February 2015 (UTC) |
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Thanks for the warm welcome, Widr! Discant X 06:01, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello! I am pretty new to wikipedia, and I saw that a few of my pages were patrolled by you. I looked at the wikipedia page about patrolled pages, but I am still a bit confused as to what this means. I was hoping you could explain this in more detail. CiKay ( talk) 18:11, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi-I don't know where the warning templates are located so I can use them. Many thanks- RFD ( talk) 20:05, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
@ DiscantX: @ John: @ Tetra quark:
I was going to take a break for a few days till things settle down, but I want to refer to DiscantX statement that, "Tetra has been "poked." His comments on his talk page should never have been struck (I almost reverted that myself, but again, I didn't want to get involved), which though I don't think is a fact that is being disputed actually... it appeared to me to be a provocation." [1]
I presume you are referring to me in causing the provocation here. I refute the fact that he was provoked into this action, as this User had the opportunity to revert the offending edits. He did not do so, and had ample time to correct it by a retraction (striking). He was advised under WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL that clearly says; "In the event of rudeness or incivility on the part of another editor, it may be appropriate to discuss the offending words with that editor, and to request that editor to change that specific wording. Some care is necessary, however, so as not to further inflame the situation. It is not normally appropriate to edit or remove another editor's comment. Exceptions include to remove obvious trolling or vandalism, or if the comment is on your own user talk page. Derogatory comments about another contributor may be removed by any editor."
Saying "Look: F--- off. Who the f--- do you think you are, you little s—?" by this user is derogatory, and frankly plainly insulting. Insulting is apparently fine, but derogatory statements are not.
Yet this is clearly already provocative (a derogatory too), and it made me feel annoyed, angry and insulted. Yet, multiple times this user had ignore the requests to correct the statements, so this justified me evoking WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL.
I choose not to be bullied into feeling this way. (That's my 'right', too.)
The statement "Honestly, you're the only one who seem to care about something that passed almost unnoticed." [2] The reason I care is that the derogative remark was directed at ME, and the only reason he cared about keeping it was "I don't have the obligation to allow an user to arbitrarily modify my own messages in my own talk page." [3], "All I wanted was to make use of my right to keep my talk page messages as I wanted them to be, and that's just it." [4], and that "I, several times, say that I don't want to discuss such a trivial issue." [5] or "Also, I said a dozen times I din't want to get into a discussion." [6]
If this can't be discussed, is dismissed as trivial, and feels they are not obliged to change it, the WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL was my only option left.
This user says to John; "Do you understand that people get angry when they are poked?" [7]
Yes I do, because the response to this issue is exactly as I feel. Leaving derogatory insults and not retracting them is also 'poking' and a 'provocation'?
In the end, refusing to remove this means he actually believes it, and thus clearly breaking and bluntly ignoring WP:CIV. The five pillars of wisdom says "Editors should treat each other with respect and civility:" [8] and is a fundamental pillar of Wikipedia.
Saying on my User Page "To conclude, I'd like to say that the main reason why I don't want the text striked is that I am not very fond of ariane, and I don't want to see him making changes on my page." [9] confirms not acting in WP:GF.
So. What actual harm is being done to Wikipedia here?
Derogatory remarks do hurt people, and dissuades them from editing. I.e. I've said regarding editing Cosmology pages, "Even my own recent edits have backed off on these subjects to avoid open conflict." and "…I fear the possible accusation of WP:HARASSMENT here, but the central issue comes back to my ability of editing cosmology and astronomy articles." [10]
But what is worse here, is the derogatory statements are still there. (I don't know how to fix this now, especially if I'm somehow accused of 'poking.' Suggestion?)
(Perhaps if TQ was only to state he is willing to remove all of them himself, it would be a great indication of goodwill towards civility. It is his decision alone.)
Here, I wanted to be absolutely crystal clear about what has happened.
Hie, i removed that content because there is a already a correct and true page of Damodar Raao http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damodar_Raao
Hello, DiscantX,
The Editing team is asking very experienced editors like you for your help with VisualEditor. The team has a list of top-priority problems, but they also want to hear about small problems. These problems may make editing less fun, take too much of your time, or be as annoying as a paper cut. The Editing team wants to hear about and try to fix these small things, too.
You can share your thoughts by clicking this link. You may respond to this quick, simple, anonymous survey in your own language. If you take the survey, then you agree your responses may be used in accordance with these terms. This survey is powered by Qualtrics and their use of your information is governed by their privacy policy.
More information (including a translateable list of the questions) is posted on wiki at mw:VisualEditor/Survey 2015. If you have questions, or prefer to respond on-wiki, then please leave a message on the survey's talk page.
Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:31, 16 March 2015 (UTC)