Hi - I've copied the relevant section from Google test:
Please note the last sentence. Also note that I'm a chemistry teacher in the US and use and prefer aluminum, but this is an international encyclopedia and IUPAC rules here in chemical articles. Thanks, Vsmith 03:31, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I understand your argument, but I believe that passage refers primarily to Wikipedia naming conventions. I do not contest that the article should remain at "aluminium". I just think it is relevant to show popular usage as well, at least in a footnote. Yes, an international standard has been set--by scientists, not by linguists. I don't think it is fair for scientists to claim complete ownership over chemical articles. The article name is one thing, but popular usage is worthy of a footnote, is it not? In my opinion, a good reference work shows popular usage as well as what is considered the "standard". If anything, I think the mention of the google test above makes it more relevant to footnote in the article. Also note that I am an American EFL teacher teaching high school abroad. I find it contentious when people use International English as a euphemism for Commonwealth English. Both British and American-derived English are learned and spoken in various countries. Dforest 04:15, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
As Wikipedia is primarily a web-based reference, it is indeed relevant if the majority of web users prefer one form over the other. I am not the only one who thinks it is relevant, it's been contested before and that should be mentioned. If it's worthy of note at the top of the Google test page, it's worthy of a footnote in the article. Please realize I am not contesting the correctness of "aluminium", I agree that it is the consensus standard here. But to contrast that with a measure of common usage is a worthwhile point. Dforest 05:52, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Articles should be consistent in the use of spelling. The title of the article uses the British English spelling and so British English should be used throughout the article. Please do not revert this again. BTW your comments about the Googletest are not useful or helpful. Google exists in the rarified world of the American dominated Internet. This is an international encyclopaedia. In the words of Jimbo Wales. The Wikipedia is not an Internet encyclopedia. It is an encyclopedia that happens to be on the Internet. In the future, editions of the encyclopaedia will be distributed to the poor in places where cheap acces to the Internet is not possible. Good day. Jooler 10:06, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your edits on Daikon. I was redirecting Raphanus Sativus to Daikon, but then noticed that Raphanus sativus (lowercase s) redirects to Radish. Are Radish and Daikon the same plants, or is one of them taxed incorrectly? Thanks -- Chris 73 Talk 12:31, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
I did a google on "flavor profile" -- it returned nothing but "wine-speak" examples, as in "the new 2003 Oak Ridge Chardonnay has a flavor profile of old leathers, unwashed cat fur, etc. etc." I think it's a pretentious way of saying "tastes" and is out of place in an encyl. article about mayo unless you somehow qualify it so that only this phrase can be used. In any case, I have some rice vinegar at home -- I might trying using it the next time. But I still don't see why it would do anything more than merely make the mayo taste slightly different from one made with cider vinegar. After all, we're not Robert Parker here writing for the $300 a bottle crowd.... Cheers, Hayford Peirce 16:17, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Your probrably right about the simmering... as for the flattening, i'm specifically thinking about the stuff that one finds in instant soup. Right out of the package, it is hard as a rock, and looks like a cracker crumb, then expands nearly 4 times its size when dropped in boiling water or broth becoming spongelike, soaking up all the broth and flavoring... (yummy). You can sometimes find it in instant ramen, though you can hardly call that "food" persay, even though I live off of it sometimes. I AM a college student afterall... HAHAHA. Thanks, and Peace. CoolFox 03:56, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
My pleasure. – You can tell from my "article" that I know very little about the subject. I just wanted a place to pull together all the various related articles I had come across. Thanks for expanding it. Rl 06:13, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments, (notice I didn't start a new headline). I'm glad someone actually reads the discussions. I also didn't know 'aluminum' was more widely used on google etc, than 'aluminium'. Although the data points to 'aluminum' being used, I don't really care what is used, just that everyone will be able to edit the page if they want. Thanks, Spawn Man 12:46, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I can't find the images you mention on Google images. Have left a note on kagami mochi talk page.-- DannyWilde 01:54, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Your edits to the Japanese beer article are plain stupid. Please stop reediting out my corrections of your mistakes. -- DannyWilde 06:12, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello, User:Maprovonsha172 filed an RfM here. Please comment there, whether it be acceptance or rejecting. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just posting a friendly notice stating that I have got Brain Teasers on my user page that you're welcome to have a go at. Will post new questions one day after they have been answered. Thanks... Spawn Man 05:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Given the vast number of them I've consumed in my life you'd think I'd know how to spell the name properly.
Yeah, an overall Japanese snack article makes a hell of a lot more sense than a hundreds of ludicrously detailed stubs about individual brand names. Why DannyWilde has this peculiar obsession or why Kappa believes every tiny granular speck of knowledge warrants an article completely escapes me. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not Google2. -- Calton | Talk 06:28, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations, you are currently tied 3rd on the Hardest Questions In The World Section's score board with 1 correct answer. You are 2 points away from the score board's leader. Spawn Man 07:09, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations, you are now 1st on the score board with 5 correct answers. Spawn Man 02:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
You have now lost your lead. You have 5 correct answers & are 1 point away from the scoreboard leader. Spawn Man 21:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed your edit of Okara and it seems like you know a lot about the subject. You used the term soymilk maker, but it looks like there's no Tofu maker or Soymilk maker article in the whole wide en.wikipedia.org! I own one of those things (Korean "Soylove" – gives tofu, soy milk, okara, tea and whatnot) so methinks we could fill the gap some time. Wikipeditor 09:28, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your useful edits to the above article. At the moment this article has been nominated for Article improvement drive. I wonder if you would consider clicking on the above link to vote for it to be further improved. Again, thanks.-- File Éireann 11:51, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
My edits to the negi page were based on the discussion in the talk page of welsh onion. Can you please respond there to the comment made that "negi" covers various species. After the unpleasant mess you made in the kagami mochi page, I'll be applying verification criteria to your edits as in WP:V. For the time being, rather than reediting the pages, I request you to comment at the above talk page. -- DannyWilde 13:26, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I missed your most recent edit of this page. Please read WP:V and provide verification to the standards required before adding the word "three" to the article again. -- DannyWilde 14:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Many thanks for your support!-- File Éireann 18:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi, may I make a request? could you please vote for my FAC, Dinosaur here: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Dinosaur? It would mean so much to me & I would definitely return the favour if you need anything voted on. I've come so far, but I just want to make sure as voting can turn sour at any moment? Don't feel pressured, but thanks anyway... Spawn Man 02:48, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi - I've copied the relevant section from Google test:
Please note the last sentence. Also note that I'm a chemistry teacher in the US and use and prefer aluminum, but this is an international encyclopedia and IUPAC rules here in chemical articles. Thanks, Vsmith 03:31, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I understand your argument, but I believe that passage refers primarily to Wikipedia naming conventions. I do not contest that the article should remain at "aluminium". I just think it is relevant to show popular usage as well, at least in a footnote. Yes, an international standard has been set--by scientists, not by linguists. I don't think it is fair for scientists to claim complete ownership over chemical articles. The article name is one thing, but popular usage is worthy of a footnote, is it not? In my opinion, a good reference work shows popular usage as well as what is considered the "standard". If anything, I think the mention of the google test above makes it more relevant to footnote in the article. Also note that I am an American EFL teacher teaching high school abroad. I find it contentious when people use International English as a euphemism for Commonwealth English. Both British and American-derived English are learned and spoken in various countries. Dforest 04:15, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
As Wikipedia is primarily a web-based reference, it is indeed relevant if the majority of web users prefer one form over the other. I am not the only one who thinks it is relevant, it's been contested before and that should be mentioned. If it's worthy of note at the top of the Google test page, it's worthy of a footnote in the article. Please realize I am not contesting the correctness of "aluminium", I agree that it is the consensus standard here. But to contrast that with a measure of common usage is a worthwhile point. Dforest 05:52, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
Articles should be consistent in the use of spelling. The title of the article uses the British English spelling and so British English should be used throughout the article. Please do not revert this again. BTW your comments about the Googletest are not useful or helpful. Google exists in the rarified world of the American dominated Internet. This is an international encyclopaedia. In the words of Jimbo Wales. The Wikipedia is not an Internet encyclopedia. It is an encyclopedia that happens to be on the Internet. In the future, editions of the encyclopaedia will be distributed to the poor in places where cheap acces to the Internet is not possible. Good day. Jooler 10:06, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your edits on Daikon. I was redirecting Raphanus Sativus to Daikon, but then noticed that Raphanus sativus (lowercase s) redirects to Radish. Are Radish and Daikon the same plants, or is one of them taxed incorrectly? Thanks -- Chris 73 Talk 12:31, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
I did a google on "flavor profile" -- it returned nothing but "wine-speak" examples, as in "the new 2003 Oak Ridge Chardonnay has a flavor profile of old leathers, unwashed cat fur, etc. etc." I think it's a pretentious way of saying "tastes" and is out of place in an encyl. article about mayo unless you somehow qualify it so that only this phrase can be used. In any case, I have some rice vinegar at home -- I might trying using it the next time. But I still don't see why it would do anything more than merely make the mayo taste slightly different from one made with cider vinegar. After all, we're not Robert Parker here writing for the $300 a bottle crowd.... Cheers, Hayford Peirce 16:17, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Your probrably right about the simmering... as for the flattening, i'm specifically thinking about the stuff that one finds in instant soup. Right out of the package, it is hard as a rock, and looks like a cracker crumb, then expands nearly 4 times its size when dropped in boiling water or broth becoming spongelike, soaking up all the broth and flavoring... (yummy). You can sometimes find it in instant ramen, though you can hardly call that "food" persay, even though I live off of it sometimes. I AM a college student afterall... HAHAHA. Thanks, and Peace. CoolFox 03:56, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
My pleasure. – You can tell from my "article" that I know very little about the subject. I just wanted a place to pull together all the various related articles I had come across. Thanks for expanding it. Rl 06:13, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments, (notice I didn't start a new headline). I'm glad someone actually reads the discussions. I also didn't know 'aluminum' was more widely used on google etc, than 'aluminium'. Although the data points to 'aluminum' being used, I don't really care what is used, just that everyone will be able to edit the page if they want. Thanks, Spawn Man 12:46, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I can't find the images you mention on Google images. Have left a note on kagami mochi talk page.-- DannyWilde 01:54, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Your edits to the Japanese beer article are plain stupid. Please stop reediting out my corrections of your mistakes. -- DannyWilde 06:12, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello, User:Maprovonsha172 filed an RfM here. Please comment there, whether it be acceptance or rejecting. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 22:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just posting a friendly notice stating that I have got Brain Teasers on my user page that you're welcome to have a go at. Will post new questions one day after they have been answered. Thanks... Spawn Man 05:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Given the vast number of them I've consumed in my life you'd think I'd know how to spell the name properly.
Yeah, an overall Japanese snack article makes a hell of a lot more sense than a hundreds of ludicrously detailed stubs about individual brand names. Why DannyWilde has this peculiar obsession or why Kappa believes every tiny granular speck of knowledge warrants an article completely escapes me. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not Google2. -- Calton | Talk 06:28, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations, you are currently tied 3rd on the Hardest Questions In The World Section's score board with 1 correct answer. You are 2 points away from the score board's leader. Spawn Man 07:09, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations, you are now 1st on the score board with 5 correct answers. Spawn Man 02:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
You have now lost your lead. You have 5 correct answers & are 1 point away from the scoreboard leader. Spawn Man 21:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed your edit of Okara and it seems like you know a lot about the subject. You used the term soymilk maker, but it looks like there's no Tofu maker or Soymilk maker article in the whole wide en.wikipedia.org! I own one of those things (Korean "Soylove" – gives tofu, soy milk, okara, tea and whatnot) so methinks we could fill the gap some time. Wikipeditor 09:28, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your useful edits to the above article. At the moment this article has been nominated for Article improvement drive. I wonder if you would consider clicking on the above link to vote for it to be further improved. Again, thanks.-- File Éireann 11:51, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
My edits to the negi page were based on the discussion in the talk page of welsh onion. Can you please respond there to the comment made that "negi" covers various species. After the unpleasant mess you made in the kagami mochi page, I'll be applying verification criteria to your edits as in WP:V. For the time being, rather than reediting the pages, I request you to comment at the above talk page. -- DannyWilde 13:26, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
I missed your most recent edit of this page. Please read WP:V and provide verification to the standards required before adding the word "three" to the article again. -- DannyWilde 14:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Many thanks for your support!-- File Éireann 18:42, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi, may I make a request? could you please vote for my FAC, Dinosaur here: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Dinosaur? It would mean so much to me & I would definitely return the favour if you need anything voted on. I've come so far, but I just want to make sure as voting can turn sour at any moment? Don't feel pressured, but thanks anyway... Spawn Man 02:48, 17 December 2005 (UTC)