This user has been
blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia. (see: block log · contributions · current autoblocks) |
An editor has expressed a concern that this account may be a
sockpuppet of
Herschelkrustofsky (
talk ·
contribs ·
logs). Please refer to the sockpuppet investigation of the sockpuppeteer, and editing habits or contributions of the sockpuppet for evidence. This policy subsection may be helpful. Account information: block log – contribs – logs – abuse log – CentralAuth |
This account has been blocked based on behavioral and timing evidence linking it to the Herschelkrustofsky sockpuppet account grouping. It has been a functionally single-purpose account for some time, focused on Lyndon LaRouche topics, and has edited in an unambiguously pro-LaRouche manner. It is sufficiently behaviorally linked to recently-indefinitely-blocked Angel's flight ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) who was confirmed via IP checkuser information that this is a strong sockpuppet case. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 00:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
|
Hi there. When
editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "
Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:
The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.
Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field – please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you. — Spike Toronto 19:00, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
— Spike Toronto 03:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
I have amended or removed the statements which you tagged, and therefore removed the notice about misinterpreted citations. If you think that there are still inappropriate citations in the article, feel free to put it back. BillMasen ( talk) 00:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
As I asked you on the talk page, please discuss your intention before making a major reorganization. Will Beback talk 12:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
you reinserted text that I deleted which contains a non reliable source. "Verifiability" alone that is not sufficient reason for including a citation in Wikipedia. The source must comply with reliability criteria. I see that you have not edited Wikipedia very much. You should familiarize yourself with Wikipedia policies. I strongly suggest that you revert this addition and then go and read WP:RS. The article you edited is subject to strict controls that means that I cannot revert this for you. I particularly draw your attention to this.If you fail to revert the entry after this warning I will have little choice to report you to the Wikipedia Administrators' noticeboard. Thank you.-- Hauskalainen ( talk) 22:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Hey, nice to meet you personally on your talk page. Sorry I missed the discussion on the article talk page initially, and commented only in the edit summary. I reviewed the talk page discussion and responded there verbosely. WP:OPENPARA is quite clear on this point and was not previously brought up. If you look around at other articles you would find out this pattern is usually preserved, though some exceptions do exist. AgadaUrbanit ( talk) 21:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Delia Peabody ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
"Behavioral and timing links with recently blocked User:Angel's flight and other HK socks"? That seems like a very far-fetched reason for a block. Where is the SPI? I have never been blocked for any reason and there have been no claims of misconduct on my part. "It has been a functionally single-purpose account for some time, focused on Lyndon LaRouche topics, and has edited in an unambiguously pro-LaRouche manner"? All false claims, and any admin can confirm this by examining my history of contributions. My particular interest is in making sure that the BLP policy is properly applied to controversial persons and groups, and I have taken a particular interest in Norman Finkelstein and Lyndon LaRouche, but I have been involved in many other issues including Mormon- and Palestinian-related articles. SlimVirgin began denouncing me as a "LaRouche account" after I made this edit, which I think is a perfectly fine edit, neutral and reliably sourced. There is also a thread that I started at the Administrators' Incident board about SlimVirgin's removal of the neutrality tag, and I suspect this block may have been carried out in retaliation.
Decline reason:
Per comment below. — Daniel Case ( talk) 06:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Will: Please email me the additional checkuser evidence, wherever it was you got it from (and explain how you came by it, please). Or stop bandying about that you have secret evidence. I ran checks, I saw no direct connection to any other account. I could be wrong of course but I'm not seeing this block as justified based on the evidence so far available to me. ++ Lar: t/ c 13:33, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
I have to say it isn't immediately clear to me that DP is someone's sockpuppet.
I am not an admin and I don't hold any positions of responsibility here. It's abundantly clear that Views of Lyndon LaRouche has long been subjected to POV-pushing by many puppet accounts (I neither know nor care whether they are HK socks or someone else's).
Apart from a small number of admins, people who edit LaRouche-related pages are almost entirely pro-LaRouche POV pushers. I had to contend with these people as well as with Delia. Based on her edits and behaviour alone, Delia was not one of them, but someone who was rather naive about Larouche, and seemed to put WP:RS on a pedestal without considering other higher-order policies such as WP:V. As usual, most editors could not be bothered to step in and help improve the article, without a vested interest in doing so.
Wikipedia has hundreds of administrators, and most of them have never edited anything to do with LaRouche, either on Wikipedia or elsewhere (which all three admins above have done). May I suggest that you involve some of them? BillMasen ( talk) 15:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Delia Peabody ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
"Per comment below" doesn't give me much to go on, since there are numerous comments. Will Beback says "suspicions go back much farther than yesterday," and I think I am seeing a pattern here. It seems that if any editor other than Will Beback or SlimVirgin attempts to edit a LaRouche article, they become a target of "suspicion," which paves the way to an indef-block based only on that "suspicion." How convenient. Given that someone who can do checkuser has said that they found no evidence, I would like to be unblocked so that I may properly defend myself against these self-serving accusations.
Decline reason:
While there is no direct CU chain all the way back to HK, there IS socking, established by CU and there is behavioral evidence as well. Under our policies as they stand I have no choice but to endorse this block and decline the request. ++ Lar: t/ c 19:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Why did you not seek the help of some other administrator who unlike yourself has not edited the pages in dispute, as I suggested? BillMasen ( talk) 16:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
This user has been
blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia. (see: block log · contributions · current autoblocks) |
An editor has expressed a concern that this account may be a
sockpuppet of
Herschelkrustofsky (
talk ·
contribs ·
logs). Please refer to the sockpuppet investigation of the sockpuppeteer, and editing habits or contributions of the sockpuppet for evidence. This policy subsection may be helpful. Account information: block log – contribs – logs – abuse log – CentralAuth |
This account has been blocked based on behavioral and timing evidence linking it to the Herschelkrustofsky sockpuppet account grouping. It has been a functionally single-purpose account for some time, focused on Lyndon LaRouche topics, and has edited in an unambiguously pro-LaRouche manner. It is sufficiently behaviorally linked to recently-indefinitely-blocked Angel's flight ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) who was confirmed via IP checkuser information that this is a strong sockpuppet case. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 00:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
|
Hi there. When
editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "
Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:
The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.
Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field – please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you. — Spike Toronto 19:00, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
— Spike Toronto 03:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
I have amended or removed the statements which you tagged, and therefore removed the notice about misinterpreted citations. If you think that there are still inappropriate citations in the article, feel free to put it back. BillMasen ( talk) 00:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
As I asked you on the talk page, please discuss your intention before making a major reorganization. Will Beback talk 12:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
you reinserted text that I deleted which contains a non reliable source. "Verifiability" alone that is not sufficient reason for including a citation in Wikipedia. The source must comply with reliability criteria. I see that you have not edited Wikipedia very much. You should familiarize yourself with Wikipedia policies. I strongly suggest that you revert this addition and then go and read WP:RS. The article you edited is subject to strict controls that means that I cannot revert this for you. I particularly draw your attention to this.If you fail to revert the entry after this warning I will have little choice to report you to the Wikipedia Administrators' noticeboard. Thank you.-- Hauskalainen ( talk) 22:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Hey, nice to meet you personally on your talk page. Sorry I missed the discussion on the article talk page initially, and commented only in the edit summary. I reviewed the talk page discussion and responded there verbosely. WP:OPENPARA is quite clear on this point and was not previously brought up. If you look around at other articles you would find out this pattern is usually preserved, though some exceptions do exist. AgadaUrbanit ( talk) 21:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Delia Peabody ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
"Behavioral and timing links with recently blocked User:Angel's flight and other HK socks"? That seems like a very far-fetched reason for a block. Where is the SPI? I have never been blocked for any reason and there have been no claims of misconduct on my part. "It has been a functionally single-purpose account for some time, focused on Lyndon LaRouche topics, and has edited in an unambiguously pro-LaRouche manner"? All false claims, and any admin can confirm this by examining my history of contributions. My particular interest is in making sure that the BLP policy is properly applied to controversial persons and groups, and I have taken a particular interest in Norman Finkelstein and Lyndon LaRouche, but I have been involved in many other issues including Mormon- and Palestinian-related articles. SlimVirgin began denouncing me as a "LaRouche account" after I made this edit, which I think is a perfectly fine edit, neutral and reliably sourced. There is also a thread that I started at the Administrators' Incident board about SlimVirgin's removal of the neutrality tag, and I suspect this block may have been carried out in retaliation.
Decline reason:
Per comment below. — Daniel Case ( talk) 06:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Will: Please email me the additional checkuser evidence, wherever it was you got it from (and explain how you came by it, please). Or stop bandying about that you have secret evidence. I ran checks, I saw no direct connection to any other account. I could be wrong of course but I'm not seeing this block as justified based on the evidence so far available to me. ++ Lar: t/ c 13:33, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
I have to say it isn't immediately clear to me that DP is someone's sockpuppet.
I am not an admin and I don't hold any positions of responsibility here. It's abundantly clear that Views of Lyndon LaRouche has long been subjected to POV-pushing by many puppet accounts (I neither know nor care whether they are HK socks or someone else's).
Apart from a small number of admins, people who edit LaRouche-related pages are almost entirely pro-LaRouche POV pushers. I had to contend with these people as well as with Delia. Based on her edits and behaviour alone, Delia was not one of them, but someone who was rather naive about Larouche, and seemed to put WP:RS on a pedestal without considering other higher-order policies such as WP:V. As usual, most editors could not be bothered to step in and help improve the article, without a vested interest in doing so.
Wikipedia has hundreds of administrators, and most of them have never edited anything to do with LaRouche, either on Wikipedia or elsewhere (which all three admins above have done). May I suggest that you involve some of them? BillMasen ( talk) 15:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Delia Peabody ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
"Per comment below" doesn't give me much to go on, since there are numerous comments. Will Beback says "suspicions go back much farther than yesterday," and I think I am seeing a pattern here. It seems that if any editor other than Will Beback or SlimVirgin attempts to edit a LaRouche article, they become a target of "suspicion," which paves the way to an indef-block based only on that "suspicion." How convenient. Given that someone who can do checkuser has said that they found no evidence, I would like to be unblocked so that I may properly defend myself against these self-serving accusations.
Decline reason:
While there is no direct CU chain all the way back to HK, there IS socking, established by CU and there is behavioral evidence as well. Under our policies as they stand I have no choice but to endorse this block and decline the request. ++ Lar: t/ c 19:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Why did you not seek the help of some other administrator who unlike yourself has not edited the pages in dispute, as I suggested? BillMasen ( talk) 16:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)