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I've moved Post-transition metal to Poor metal as you requested. The old and new articles had WP:Parallel histories so a history merge was not possible. A cut-and-paste move was done back in 2008, which you can verify by looking at [1] and [2]. I think it's too late to fix this, but the old history of Poor metal needs to be parked somewhere. See Wikipedia:Parallel histories#A troublesome case for a way to handle this. Check Talk:Poor metal for my note and let me know if there are still any problems. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 20:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I have reverted the change to inert pair effect you made as a result of the merge of poor metal and post-transition metal articles. I was not aware of this merge and would have probably have had some input as the two terms historically are not interchangeable, whilst aluminium is often termed a poor metal it is most definitely not post-transition and why anyone could ever think it was is beyond me, but apparently they do. Regarding the so-called inert pair effect - aluminium as a period 3 element is not affected, whereas gallium, germanium, indium, tin, etc are. The vagueness of the terms poor metal and post-transition metal are apparent and perhaps a more specific wording is required to ensure the correct elements are identified in the inert pair effect article. I will put this on my to-do list but will not get back to it for a while. Axiosaurus ( talk) 11:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello Flying Jazz. I've read some of your contributions in our archives, including the ones about PT categories, and was impressed by their overall calibre. I wasn't aware you were still active. In any event, it's good to hear from you again.
I think you're judging the current state of affairs harshly, and without sufficient foundation.
As noted by DiPiep, the project has been looking carefully at the poor metals category. I always thought it was poorly defined, inconsistent, confusing, and poorly written up. After doing some exhaustive research of the literature we have prepared a draft reboot of the poor metal article, here.
There is still some residual ambiguity around the poor metals just as there are varying degrees of ambiguity about, for example, where the transition metals finish, the composition of Group 3, and how many lanthanides there are. But that didn't stop you from making, as I understand from reading your user page, a decision about how to show the lanthanides/actinides.
In the present case, the literature shows that the poor metals, as a bunch of second-string metals between the transition metals and the metalloids, make up a reasonably coherent grouping.
An outstanding issue is what to do about aluminium and whether it truly warrants being categorised as a poor metal.
I was somewhat surprised at your bitterness about the Wikipedia experience. Since I joined the project I've only seen improvements such as those in, for example, the articles for periodic table, fluorine, astatine and the transactinide elements. Sandbh ( talk) 06:32, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
they still use post-transition metal instead of poor metal; could you help me fix it? thx. Double sharp ( talk) 15:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
also: would it be possible to make the formatting of List of oxidation states of the elements better? Double sharp ( talk) 13:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
If I might ask, I very carefully set the CSS to make sure it was barely any larger, while including both the easy and systemic names. Why do you think it's not compact?
Your edit reason, 'No understanding of "compact"', seemed very... dismissive, given that, unless the CSS I used isn't supported as widely as it should be. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 23:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
DePiep, there is something wrong with the arrow for "Group" in the top left corner. The arrow overlies the "p" in Group. Sandbh ( talk) 12:27, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
This is from WP:LAYIM (mos layout): "As a general rule, images should not be set to a larger fixed size than the 220px default. ... Lead images should usually be no wider than "300px"". So if we can shrink that 350px a bit more, we'd be better. - DePiep ( talk) 11:25, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
[Comment copied here for context]: Please stop changing astatine. The Talkpage concluded different. At least a bitstrange you did not visit the talkpage before about this. - DePiep ( talk) 17:00, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
if it's not a problem with you, could you create all the electron shell images for elements 119–172 and 184 with info from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elements/Archive 13#Electron shell images? because (1) other wikis have articles on the other elements and if they update they will have a problem and (2) at the discussion to insert 173-184 in our compact PTs I raised a suggestion to recreate all those articles for the elements (I will create a new subsection for that after group 12) Double sharp ( talk) 16:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
[Xe]
detail could be clickable (linked) separately (using some image technique). We could leave out details (like your 9p1/2 ... point) from the element graph, and make that clickable. Have you seen a graph system somewhere that could be used for all elements? -
DePiep (
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08:27, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
The graph should be able to show these items independently. I assume for now we add text where needed:
1. Element core and & text Z+id (say, LH side a sphere suggestion, with text 85At in or below).
2. Shells:
3. Energy: in eV. Probably to scale; scale logarithmic? (we already fold the group 0)
4. Group 0 configuration: One "[gr0]" marker ([Xe] folds the complete Xe configuration).
5. Last added electron (compared with Z-1 element).
6. Electron gossip: Exact electron property not determined (mixing shells, just suggest a presence without assigning a value)
7. Electron configuration in text: [Rn] 5f14 6d10 7s2 7p5
8. Sources and notes "(predicted)"?
9.
10. ? Empty electron places in shell?
11. ? option to mark exchanged electrons (in chemical bondings)?
- DePiep ( talk) 16:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
flerovium livermorium please Double sharp ( talk) 15:32, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Done - DePiep ( talk) 09:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
It'll be some time before we find them all, it seems! But now it's much more efficient to wait until the WT:ELEM talk discussions are over and your Great Recolouring is done. (Low priority indeed!) Double sharp ( talk) 13:29, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
{{done} SHE File:Super heavy elements (polyatomic).svg - DePiep ( talk) 15:18, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
That page was deleted per author request and you mentionned it was "solved elsewhere". Template:Periodic table (nonmetals variant) redirects to the deleted sandbox. Should it retargetted, blanked and kept, or deleted along with the talkpage (which seems a shame considering the talk page discussion)? :) · Salvidrim!· ✉ 23:53, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to comment on this suggestion (Zn, Cd, Hg → poor metal; Cn → only predicted; 113 → predicted transition metal) at WT:ELEM#Make the group 12 elements poor metals? Double sharp ( talk) 05:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
The page you created at Template:Convert/testcases/messages1 won't work as it need to be in the module namespace. So take a look at Module:Convert/testcases/messages1 instead and the results are at Module talk:Convert/testcases/messages1
There are some problems using Module:UnitTests though. Visually the results are the same a lot of the time but they never match as there is slightly different HTML behind the scenes with being placed in slightly different places. -- WOSlinker ( talk) 19:46, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
I think you may also be getting a little confused with the |warnings=on
parameter. As described in
Module:Convert, the warnings parameter is applied directly against the #invoke rather than for use against the template. {{
Convert/sandboxlua}} does not have the warnings on but {{
Convert/sandboxlua2}} does have it on. --
WOSlinker (
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20:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
So for example:
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{{Convert/sandboxlua|123|m|extra=abc|warnings=on}} | 123 metres (404 ft) * |
{{Convert/sandboxlua2|123|m|extra=abc}} | 123 m (404 ft) convert: invalid option |
{{Convert/sandboxlua2|123|m|extra=abc|warnings=on}} | 123 m (404 ft) convert: invalid option |
{{Convert/sandboxlua2|123|m|extra=abc|warnings=off}} | 123 m (404 ft) convert: invalid option |
{{Convert/sandboxlua2|123|m|warnings=on}} | 123 m (404 ft) convert: invalid option |
|debug=
doesn't get 'on' (the time & thinking is costs to research inconsistent code ...). The test options in the module are a horror. And I can maintain that the code is unnecessary complicated (two pass through calls needed, with senseless function names, before starting the basic convert workings? Why all these table copies & manipulations?). -
DePiep (
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20:37, 21 September 2013 (UTC)Better improve Template:Convert/sandboxlua/parameter options right away. That is thafactual list; tests and documenation should be derived from there. We couold also use a complete units table straight from Johnuniq's data page (adjusted script?). - DePiep ( talk) 20:47, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
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Group 3 changes also: Sc, Y, and the present lanthanides all become "rare earth metals" (new category). We can keep the pink colour, but redefine it, as the old meaning will not be used again. (Discussed with Sandbh; he agrees.) Double sharp ( talk) 06:53, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, Wikid77 here. I replied at " wp:Village_pump_(technical)#After OK edit saving, the return page is an error_(504_or_ec)" but my replies were deleted by U:Legoktm (other replies have been axed by U:Matma_Rex so beware), but I re-posted there and below:
So, in retrospect, perhaps the large size of the page sometimes triggered a timeout-exit which caused the self edit-conflict against the just-saved revision. In remembering past false edit-conflicts, I think many occurred in large pages, or smaller pages with many large templates as might reach a timeout limit. Beware Legoktm and Matma_Rex have deleted replies to some VPT threads. I really want to thank you, again, for saving the screenprint and discussing this issue. We might confirm a pattern where some edits to very large/templated pages can trigger a false edit-conflict, so to warn users not to worry as much, for the Save-page might have succeeded. - Wikid77 ( talk) 16:53, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
And I'm now getting this too. <sarcasm>How wonderful.</sarcasm> Well, at least the edits are being saved, although the current state of affairs is really unsatisfactory... Double sharp ( talk) 10:32, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi DePiep
Re this template, could you please add solid lines around the known elemental gases, and dashed lines around copernicium and flevorovium? Context is that I've updated the elemental gases section of the nonmetal article.
thank you Sandbh ( talk) 05:35, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
I wanted to confirm the peculiar 1638mm of the
Baltimore Streetcar System so I emailed them using the form on the corporate website. I got a reply confirming the gauge:
Re: BSM - Viewer Feedback-Ver 222-1
Johnlacosta@verizon.net
13 Sep
to me, tlchost, samsmeatm, tinseltrolley, k3hrn
That is the correct gauge for the Baltimore system.
John La Costa
V.P. Enginering
I tried to do the same thing for
Carmelit, but until now I got no answer.
Regards,
Peter Horn
User talk
17:03, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
I have arrived here from the archived talk about the en:template:infobox element [5]. I am working on that one, long term. I understand the topic is on hold because we need a number data type here. All fine.
My question now is: how could one use wikidata in say enwiki? How can one get existing data (and source) out of wikidata onto a wiki content page? Any examples? en:User talk:DePiep - 08:15, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
{{XXX
|xxx1 = {{#property:Pyyy1}}
|xxx2 = {{#property:Pyyy2}}
|xxx3 = {{#property:Pyyy3}}
}}
( barnstar to top)
Nice design, by the way. Seriously, I love it.-- R8R Gtrs ( talk) 17:53, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Do you see where I am trying to go with my report idea? Werieth ( talk) 18:21, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Double sharp ( talk) 10:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, what is the purpose of Category:Page reports requests? It contains no pages other than itself, and is not in any categories - other than itself and Category:Hidden categories. I ask because it's appearing on the latest version of Wikipedia:Database reports/Self-categorized categories. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 12:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
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Don't see why we should avoid them just because Unicode deprecates them. If they're just duplicates, but the ones in the Math-A set don't work for us, then perhaps we should use them anyway. — kwami ( talk) 16:37, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
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Hey DePiep, I really appreciated you're work on vectorizing this image but there seems to be a mix up with the "Progressive" and "Centrist" labels. If you could fix that it would be great! Thanks, CartoonDiablo ( talk) 03:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your support, but viewing Template talk:Convert#RfC does not show your yes/no answer to the RfC. As it stands, AzaToth and I are the only clear supports. I'm going to ping Frietjes hoping she will also want to make a clear statement. Johnuniq ( talk) 10:08, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, he'd use the short, 8-column table, at least in 1871! ;-) (It's more on the chemistry side of the continuum.) But the problem with the 8-column table is that like the 18-column table, the lanthanides and actinides are relegated to a footnote.
I think he actually got things right the first time: his original 1869 table is more akin to the current 18-column table, but only in that the periodicity of the rare earths was yet unknown. His placing them in separate groups seems to indicate 32-column thinking. Double sharp ( talk) 16:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
As a member of WikiProject Elements, you are invited to comment and vote here.
(Yes, I'm posting this on all active members' talkpages.) Double sharp ( talk) 14:36, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I notice
Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/List_of_pages/Articles isn't working any more and I don't see an "all medical pages" option in {{
WPMED related changes}}
. Would it be possible to add that option to the template? (Sorry if this is a dumb question - templates scare me.) --
Anthonyhcole (
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contribs ·
email)
09:23, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
TWow! Thanks! And that coming from one of the the biggest content-projects we have. - DePiep ( talk) 06:38, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
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{{
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{{
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No | Has no legend |
{{
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Yes | |
{{
Periodic table (extended, large)}}
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{{
Periodic table (large version)}}
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{{
Periodic table (Pyykkö model)}}
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No | Has no legend |
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Periodic table (Pyykkö model, large)}}
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Periodic table (superactinides)}}
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No | Has no legend |
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Periodic table (superactinides, by Pyykkö)}}
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Periodic table (wide large)}}
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Hi,
DePiep,
There is some code that is causing one of your user pages (
User:DePiep/T pseudo ns) to be tagged with
Category:Wikipedia disambiguation but I can't figure what it is. This is not a category for user pages so if you could remove this categorization, that would be great. Thanks!
Liz
Read!
Talk!
04:43, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
I came across Category:Subtemplates of Template Convert/wrapper templates while talk-page stalking. {{ Chembox MeltingPt}} and {{ Chembox BoilingPt}} both do conversions via hard-coded functions. IIRC, they actually pre-date the standard {{ convert}} suite, and have a different behavior in the use of hyphen vs endash for range/negative values. WP:CHEMS has kicked around changing that for years, you'll definitely want to coordinate there with any changes (the Chembox template suite is large and complicated). DMacks ( talk) 03:22, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi DePiep! I tagged you on a discussion on WPMED. I've been having a bit of trouble creating the society and medicine taskforce ( Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Society_and_medicine_task_force) for WPMED. Other taskforces are able to get an article assessment table created (for example, here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Cardiology task force/Article assessment), but I'm not sure about how to go about doing this. I've created the categories and added one or two articles. How are articles automatically added to the categories? How does one get the assessment table? I've been flummoxed for months and would appreciate any help you can give, or a reference onwards to a third party or place on this website. Kind regards, -- LT910001 ( talk) 03:47, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your invitation to contact you. If I could magically use bots, I'd use a bot to tag every article with the taskforce:
That should net the majority of the articles we wish to catch. Thanks again for your help! -- LT910001 ( talk) 15:38, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
bot request. Do NOT continue here. - DePiep ( talk) 14:22, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Just to let you know that I shall be away 15-23 Dec. Petergans ( talk) 13:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi DePiep: I'm doing a tidy up of the metalloid article. You may see some unusual activity associated with these refinements e.g. I just edited the metalloid border periodic table template. Tx, Sandbh ( talk) 11:42, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Hey, DePiep, I've declined your CSD nomination this redirect. It's not particularly misleading for a shortcut, I don't think, and per this, there is policy support for such shortcuts. Precedent, too. You can still take it to RfD if you like, of course, but I don't think it's clear enough for a speedy deletion. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 18:06, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
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what does DPP stand for, come from, or mean to say or help, not that I didn't know what R3 was. I didn't know exactly what it meant or where it came from, but just because you or I don't know where it came from doesn't mean that nobody does. After all, we have some pretty strange things in Wikipedia or Template space: look at the csd templates themselves. It's not at all straightforward where "db" comes from; one would naturally expect that the CSD templates would start with "csd" or something. They don't, but just because we don't know the reason they're called that ways doesn't mean that there is none. And "DPP" isn't totally implausible: the "D" presumably stands for documentation, and there could be a historical reason that the rest of the shortcut is "PP". Anyway, the speedy deletion template you used says:
a recently created redirect page resulting from a typo or misnomer which is implausible and not common, and not in another language. T:DPP certainly wasn't a typo. Given that there could've been (and in fact was) a redirect that referred to that template as "DPP", it wasn't a misnomer, either. It might not make immediate sense, but it's neither a misnomer nor a typo, so technically speaking, R3 doesn't apply. "Implausible" and "recent", while certainly part, aren't the only two factors that make that CSD criterion apply to a page.
Hello DePiep,
Please see
Template talk:RailGauge#Here we go again Nov 2013.
Peter Horn
User talk
02:03, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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You have again disabled Template:Cvt, a 3-year variation of Template:Convert, in dif782 without consensus, and now against recent edits. Please beware wp:3RR and seek first to establish consensus for further changes. Thank you. - Wikid77 ( talk) 21:11, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
It looks likethere were some inadvertent changes made in your recent edit. Or maybe I missed something. YBG ( talk) 00:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Expected, well into January 2014. - DePiep ( talk) 07:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hello, DePiep
If it isn't much trouble, I'd like to ask about a few details concerning our disagreement on edit #590655443 in Template:Yesno/doc. Well, it is a very easy question: What is the table attempting to show anyway? I can make neither head nor tail out of this.
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00:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
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Please excuse me, I write in British English and from my "offence" and your "offense" I guess you write in American English. No problem with that, but I should apologise (or apologize) if it seemed that I was being rude. I know how hard you work at RfD, let alone other places I am sure. Please excuse my typing errors I am not used to this keyboard. Si Trew ( talk) 19:09, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hi DePiep. Thanks again for making the awesome medicine patroller tool. I was wondering if you'd be interested in creating a tiny badge/button-sized tool that retrieves just recent changes to articles (not talk pages) with {{WikiProject Pharmacology}} on their talk page? I want to show it to pharmacologists in the hope of recruiting some as patrollers. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 09:38, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Anthonyhcole. See {{ Pharmacology recent changes}}. Useable? - DePiep ( talk) 01:43, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_25#Template:Wpcm about the nomination of Template:Wpcm in which you may be interested. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 07:46, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
DePiep and @ Double sharp: Time for us to make the change from poor metal to other metal, I reckon. If I change the name of the poor metal article, and load my sandbox into it, is there then a methodical way to change all of the 200 or so other articles/templates? Thank you, Sandbh ( talk) 12:15, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi DePiep
Could you have another look at this article? The sort function no longer works properly as it is including rows two to four, which are heading type rows, when sorting. And once sorted, the sort function stops working. Previously the sort function sorted blank cells first and then occupied cells depending on which column you sorted on, and then you could sort again to get the occupied cells first and then the blank cells. I like the extra rows with names of elements but I think you will have to have the sort keys in the fourth row to get the sort function working as intended. There does not seem to be a way of preventing rows two to four from being sorted, which would otherwise be a solution. Thank you, Sandbh ( talk) 10:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
On my screen Mt–Rg, 113–118 are showing up on a white background rather than the "Unknown chemical properties" colour, and the column width seems very uneven. Could you fix it, please? Double sharp ( talk) 14:26, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
DePiep, @ Double sharp: Interesting question there about the bottom info graphic. Not sure yet how to respond. Simple answer is to delete bottom graphic, as suggested above? Sandbh ( talk) 21:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
In other words: Po is considered a metal in the range of categories (pulled to poor metal in the considerations), At moved differently in that same argumented range battle. If the metalloids page leads to the consequence that Po should be labeled metalloid, we should adjust all our relevant PT pages. A let's-vary-per-page periodic table is introducing inconsistency between enwiki pages. For encyclopedic soundness, that is to be prevented at high costs. I wonder if the metalloids page text does of can clearify this Po/At difference. - DePiep ( talk) 22:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I answered there. We should remove the micro periodic table for reasons of space (=too detailed to explain). I'll remove it upon support, e.g. from Double sharp, Sandbh. Any chance this difference might be explicit in the text ("we in wikipedia apply ..." even)? - DePiep ( talk) 08:40, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
I intend to update the poor metal article with the other metal article in my sandbox. Aim to do so within next 24 hours. Will then change all text mentions in other articles. Good if u can still do templates and images. Haven't forgotten metalloid FA and deciding what to do about micro-PT. Sandbh ( talk) 11:42, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Done OK, this was the main batch I guess (legends & color name changes). See [7] & [8]. - DePiep ( talk) 13:15, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Did you find the explanation at the end of [9] to be at all reasonable? I'm not sure at the moment if I should continue with it or give it up as a useless rehash. Wnt ( talk) 20:02, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
are not good enough for what you are doing for rail guages - thanks... satusuro 15:27, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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Hey, I noticed you made a large number of changes to articles with chembox templates, and didn't include a reason or link to the consensus discussion in the edit summary. Was there a consensus discussion for the changes? Agyle ( talk) 16:24, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
lt images size available without disturbance. (described in Wikipedia_talk:CHEMBOX#Chembox_code_update_27_March_2014). The default size settings were not altered! Since the default widths actually work as expected, at last, I removed the explicit settings in the articles. This is what the editsummary refers to: don't set a default in the article. (These earlier settings were more of a trial-and-error outcome because of unpredictable behaviour. Editors had to play with sizes to look for an effect. This stemmed from the text-column width influence. At the moment, it can not be reproduced, but the image pairs were systematically uneven in width, even in stuations where size was explicitly set).
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DePiep (
talk)
18:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)You will no doubt be familiar with WP:NPA and WP:AGF. I invite you to strike out or remove your unacceptable and offensive comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your help a couple of months ago getting the Article Assessment table up and running for Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Society and medicine task force. Another user I'm familiar with, CFCF, is trying to get Wikipedia:WikiProject Physiology up and running, and we'd be very grateful if you'd help us get the Article Assessment up and running, or point us in the right direction. Kindly, -- LT910001 ( talk) 23:04, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
There are several redirects for discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_April_14 in which you may be interested. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 03:20, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
DePiep, I think I've done all of the changes to articles. Cld you do the templates? If you can see any articles I've missed just let me know. Thank you, Sandbh ( talk) 12:00, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
DePiep,
Today a manual Railgauge edit ( [10]) of me on Robert Stephenson was reverted, partially due to an error caused by me.
After examination and an attempt to correctly restore my edit, User:Edgepedia reverted my restore with some interesting arguments about RailGauge template usage on Talk:Robert Stephenson#railgauge template. Can you please take a look at these so I can address the issues raised?
(my comments on the arguments (italics) as given on the Stephenson talk page):
-- Aaron-Tripel ( talk) 15:17, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
And I reply to you, more loose.
My bad; templates all done as far as I can see. Thank you. Sandbh ( talk) 04:39, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't know why you reverted my edit to Spray (sailing vessel). Your edit summary "we don't do no idle edit" makes absolutely no sense. The template {{italic title}} does exactly the same thing as your addition of {{DISPLAYTITLE:''Spray'' (sailing vessel)}} does but with a much cleaner edit. You can read more about the template here: Template:Italic title. — Diiscool ( talk) 20:41, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
That was a bizarre exchange at ANI. I sincerely thought we were in agreement until I logged on again and saw it was gone. I don't really mind, but am a little confused.
Although you began with:
"No, no refactoring. Closing admins have made a point out of grouped TfD's, and there is no super-guidance. I will not risk another "wrong place" argument by any admin."
you shortly followed it up with:
"I reverted. Admins are less smart than you are."
Which, to me, sounded like you were saying "Nevermind (I revise my stance and have reinstated your actions). Admins are dumb (so you need not listen)." Though I have gathered from the leading statement at ANI you believed I was ignoring you:
... I reverted early
[312]313, but that was undone.
Now I'm curious: what did you mean by "...Admins are less smart than you are"? Separate statement entirely, or what?
Not mad, just surprised you opened an ANI thread for it. Meteor_sandwich_yum ( talk) 09:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
I would advise you to not put messages or "Grave dance" on Nergaal talk page, as it could be seen as personal attacks, and you could see your own ANI turned against you. Also be less hostile on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elements, some of the stuff that you are putting on there are borderline and sometimes even blatant attacks on editors. Just remember Wikipedia is not battlefield. TheMesquito buzz 06:45, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
Do you have any idea how to get the templates to stop adding themselves to Category:Languages without family color codes? I've tried 'include only' etc, but can't figure it out.
— kwami ( talk) 07:00, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
|demospace=main
. It will trick the user page to think it is in mainspace (and add that category if it would in true mainspace).Done: see Template_talk:Infobox_language#For_maintenance_categories:_using_main_other. Unfortunately, for the moment no test option is possible. - DePiep ( talk) 14:28, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi I'm ZackDickens12 and why did you get rid of the welcome message? →Zackdickens12→ →Talk to me!→ 07:16, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi DePiep. I was just wondering.. if you are thinking of doing something completely different to the Elements WikiProject to challenge your brain in a different way, this is an article I wrote a while back. Unfortunately it suffers from major cases of "quotism" and "triviaism". Which my articles tend to do. So I was wondering if perhaps you'd consider giving it a little once-over. As far as I'm aware, most to all possible sources are already in the article, so that side of things shouldnt be an issue. Copyediting has never been my strong point so I've always relied on the help of better Wiki-editors to move forward an article I've started. If this interests you, please give me a shout. :)-- Coin945 ( talk) 17:34, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, re
this edit. Two things: (i) by moving one double apostrophe inside the {{
cot}}
, you've caused two cases of unclosed italics; (ii) it's not self-evident, see for example
User talk:Redrose64#Why there are some categories that are categorized as hidden, that doesn't have a "hiddencat" in its text field? --
Redrose64 (
talk)
23:45, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | ← | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | → | Archive 10 |
I've moved Post-transition metal to Poor metal as you requested. The old and new articles had WP:Parallel histories so a history merge was not possible. A cut-and-paste move was done back in 2008, which you can verify by looking at [1] and [2]. I think it's too late to fix this, but the old history of Poor metal needs to be parked somewhere. See Wikipedia:Parallel histories#A troublesome case for a way to handle this. Check Talk:Poor metal for my note and let me know if there are still any problems. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 20:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I have reverted the change to inert pair effect you made as a result of the merge of poor metal and post-transition metal articles. I was not aware of this merge and would have probably have had some input as the two terms historically are not interchangeable, whilst aluminium is often termed a poor metal it is most definitely not post-transition and why anyone could ever think it was is beyond me, but apparently they do. Regarding the so-called inert pair effect - aluminium as a period 3 element is not affected, whereas gallium, germanium, indium, tin, etc are. The vagueness of the terms poor metal and post-transition metal are apparent and perhaps a more specific wording is required to ensure the correct elements are identified in the inert pair effect article. I will put this on my to-do list but will not get back to it for a while. Axiosaurus ( talk) 11:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Hello Flying Jazz. I've read some of your contributions in our archives, including the ones about PT categories, and was impressed by their overall calibre. I wasn't aware you were still active. In any event, it's good to hear from you again.
I think you're judging the current state of affairs harshly, and without sufficient foundation.
As noted by DiPiep, the project has been looking carefully at the poor metals category. I always thought it was poorly defined, inconsistent, confusing, and poorly written up. After doing some exhaustive research of the literature we have prepared a draft reboot of the poor metal article, here.
There is still some residual ambiguity around the poor metals just as there are varying degrees of ambiguity about, for example, where the transition metals finish, the composition of Group 3, and how many lanthanides there are. But that didn't stop you from making, as I understand from reading your user page, a decision about how to show the lanthanides/actinides.
In the present case, the literature shows that the poor metals, as a bunch of second-string metals between the transition metals and the metalloids, make up a reasonably coherent grouping.
An outstanding issue is what to do about aluminium and whether it truly warrants being categorised as a poor metal.
I was somewhat surprised at your bitterness about the Wikipedia experience. Since I joined the project I've only seen improvements such as those in, for example, the articles for periodic table, fluorine, astatine and the transactinide elements. Sandbh ( talk) 06:32, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
they still use post-transition metal instead of poor metal; could you help me fix it? thx. Double sharp ( talk) 15:15, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
also: would it be possible to make the formatting of List of oxidation states of the elements better? Double sharp ( talk) 13:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
If I might ask, I very carefully set the CSS to make sure it was barely any larger, while including both the easy and systemic names. Why do you think it's not compact?
Your edit reason, 'No understanding of "compact"', seemed very... dismissive, given that, unless the CSS I used isn't supported as widely as it should be. Adam Cuerden ( talk) 23:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
DePiep, there is something wrong with the arrow for "Group" in the top left corner. The arrow overlies the "p" in Group. Sandbh ( talk) 12:27, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
This is from WP:LAYIM (mos layout): "As a general rule, images should not be set to a larger fixed size than the 220px default. ... Lead images should usually be no wider than "300px"". So if we can shrink that 350px a bit more, we'd be better. - DePiep ( talk) 11:25, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
[Comment copied here for context]: Please stop changing astatine. The Talkpage concluded different. At least a bitstrange you did not visit the talkpage before about this. - DePiep ( talk) 17:00, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
if it's not a problem with you, could you create all the electron shell images for elements 119–172 and 184 with info from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elements/Archive 13#Electron shell images? because (1) other wikis have articles on the other elements and if they update they will have a problem and (2) at the discussion to insert 173-184 in our compact PTs I raised a suggestion to recreate all those articles for the elements (I will create a new subsection for that after group 12) Double sharp ( talk) 16:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
[Xe]
detail could be clickable (linked) separately (using some image technique). We could leave out details (like your 9p1/2 ... point) from the element graph, and make that clickable. Have you seen a graph system somewhere that could be used for all elements? -
DePiep (
talk)
08:27, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
The graph should be able to show these items independently. I assume for now we add text where needed:
1. Element core and & text Z+id (say, LH side a sphere suggestion, with text 85At in or below).
2. Shells:
3. Energy: in eV. Probably to scale; scale logarithmic? (we already fold the group 0)
4. Group 0 configuration: One "[gr0]" marker ([Xe] folds the complete Xe configuration).
5. Last added electron (compared with Z-1 element).
6. Electron gossip: Exact electron property not determined (mixing shells, just suggest a presence without assigning a value)
7. Electron configuration in text: [Rn] 5f14 6d10 7s2 7p5
8. Sources and notes "(predicted)"?
9.
10. ? Empty electron places in shell?
11. ? option to mark exchanged electrons (in chemical bondings)?
- DePiep ( talk) 16:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
flerovium livermorium please Double sharp ( talk) 15:32, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Done - DePiep ( talk) 09:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
It'll be some time before we find them all, it seems! But now it's much more efficient to wait until the WT:ELEM talk discussions are over and your Great Recolouring is done. (Low priority indeed!) Double sharp ( talk) 13:29, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
{{done} SHE File:Super heavy elements (polyatomic).svg - DePiep ( talk) 15:18, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
That page was deleted per author request and you mentionned it was "solved elsewhere". Template:Periodic table (nonmetals variant) redirects to the deleted sandbox. Should it retargetted, blanked and kept, or deleted along with the talkpage (which seems a shame considering the talk page discussion)? :) · Salvidrim!· ✉ 23:53, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to comment on this suggestion (Zn, Cd, Hg → poor metal; Cn → only predicted; 113 → predicted transition metal) at WT:ELEM#Make the group 12 elements poor metals? Double sharp ( talk) 05:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
The page you created at Template:Convert/testcases/messages1 won't work as it need to be in the module namespace. So take a look at Module:Convert/testcases/messages1 instead and the results are at Module talk:Convert/testcases/messages1
There are some problems using Module:UnitTests though. Visually the results are the same a lot of the time but they never match as there is slightly different HTML behind the scenes with being placed in slightly different places. -- WOSlinker ( talk) 19:46, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
I think you may also be getting a little confused with the |warnings=on
parameter. As described in
Module:Convert, the warnings parameter is applied directly against the #invoke rather than for use against the template. {{
Convert/sandboxlua}} does not have the warnings on but {{
Convert/sandboxlua2}} does have it on. --
WOSlinker (
talk)
20:10, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
So for example:
Usage | Result. |
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{{Convert/sandboxlua|123|m|extra=abc}} | 123 metres (404 ft) * |
{{Convert/sandboxlua|123|m|extra=abc|warnings=on}} | 123 metres (404 ft) * |
{{Convert/sandboxlua2|123|m|extra=abc}} | 123 m (404 ft) convert: invalid option |
{{Convert/sandboxlua2|123|m|extra=abc|warnings=on}} | 123 m (404 ft) convert: invalid option |
{{Convert/sandboxlua2|123|m|extra=abc|warnings=off}} | 123 m (404 ft) convert: invalid option |
{{Convert/sandboxlua2|123|m|warnings=on}} | 123 m (404 ft) convert: invalid option |
|debug=
doesn't get 'on' (the time & thinking is costs to research inconsistent code ...). The test options in the module are a horror. And I can maintain that the code is unnecessary complicated (two pass through calls needed, with senseless function names, before starting the basic convert workings? Why all these table copies & manipulations?). -
DePiep (
talk)
20:37, 21 September 2013 (UTC)Better improve Template:Convert/sandboxlua/parameter options right away. That is thafactual list; tests and documenation should be derived from there. We couold also use a complete units table straight from Johnuniq's data page (adjusted script?). - DePiep ( talk) 20:47, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Elements for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day! -- buff bills 7701 20:44, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Group 3 changes also: Sc, Y, and the present lanthanides all become "rare earth metals" (new category). We can keep the pink colour, but redefine it, as the old meaning will not be used again. (Discussed with Sandbh; he agrees.) Double sharp ( talk) 06:53, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, Wikid77 here. I replied at " wp:Village_pump_(technical)#After OK edit saving, the return page is an error_(504_or_ec)" but my replies were deleted by U:Legoktm (other replies have been axed by U:Matma_Rex so beware), but I re-posted there and below:
So, in retrospect, perhaps the large size of the page sometimes triggered a timeout-exit which caused the self edit-conflict against the just-saved revision. In remembering past false edit-conflicts, I think many occurred in large pages, or smaller pages with many large templates as might reach a timeout limit. Beware Legoktm and Matma_Rex have deleted replies to some VPT threads. I really want to thank you, again, for saving the screenprint and discussing this issue. We might confirm a pattern where some edits to very large/templated pages can trigger a false edit-conflict, so to warn users not to worry as much, for the Save-page might have succeeded. - Wikid77 ( talk) 16:53, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
And I'm now getting this too. <sarcasm>How wonderful.</sarcasm> Well, at least the edits are being saved, although the current state of affairs is really unsatisfactory... Double sharp ( talk) 10:32, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi DePiep
Re this template, could you please add solid lines around the known elemental gases, and dashed lines around copernicium and flevorovium? Context is that I've updated the elemental gases section of the nonmetal article.
thank you Sandbh ( talk) 05:35, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
I wanted to confirm the peculiar 1638mm of the
Baltimore Streetcar System so I emailed them using the form on the corporate website. I got a reply confirming the gauge:
Re: BSM - Viewer Feedback-Ver 222-1
Johnlacosta@verizon.net
13 Sep
to me, tlchost, samsmeatm, tinseltrolley, k3hrn
That is the correct gauge for the Baltimore system.
John La Costa
V.P. Enginering
I tried to do the same thing for
Carmelit, but until now I got no answer.
Regards,
Peter Horn
User talk
17:03, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
I have arrived here from the archived talk about the en:template:infobox element [5]. I am working on that one, long term. I understand the topic is on hold because we need a number data type here. All fine.
My question now is: how could one use wikidata in say enwiki? How can one get existing data (and source) out of wikidata onto a wiki content page? Any examples? en:User talk:DePiep - 08:15, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
{{XXX
|xxx1 = {{#property:Pyyy1}}
|xxx2 = {{#property:Pyyy2}}
|xxx3 = {{#property:Pyyy3}}
}}
( barnstar to top)
Nice design, by the way. Seriously, I love it.-- R8R Gtrs ( talk) 17:53, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Do you see where I am trying to go with my report idea? Werieth ( talk) 18:21, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Double sharp ( talk) 10:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, what is the purpose of Category:Page reports requests? It contains no pages other than itself, and is not in any categories - other than itself and Category:Hidden categories. I ask because it's appearing on the latest version of Wikipedia:Database reports/Self-categorized categories. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 12:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
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Don't see why we should avoid them just because Unicode deprecates them. If they're just duplicates, but the ones in the Math-A set don't work for us, then perhaps we should use them anyway. — kwami ( talk) 16:37, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect T:WPTECH. Since you had some involvement with the T:WPTECH redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). John Vandenberg ( chat) 14:55, 18 November 2013 (UTC) p.s. it is a group nom, including T:OU which you created during a move.
Hey DePiep, I really appreciated you're work on vectorizing this image but there seems to be a mix up with the "Progressive" and "Centrist" labels. If you could fix that it would be great! Thanks, CartoonDiablo ( talk) 03:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your support, but viewing Template talk:Convert#RfC does not show your yes/no answer to the RfC. As it stands, AzaToth and I are the only clear supports. I'm going to ping Frietjes hoping she will also want to make a clear statement. Johnuniq ( talk) 10:08, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, he'd use the short, 8-column table, at least in 1871! ;-) (It's more on the chemistry side of the continuum.) But the problem with the 8-column table is that like the 18-column table, the lanthanides and actinides are relegated to a footnote.
I think he actually got things right the first time: his original 1869 table is more akin to the current 18-column table, but only in that the periodicity of the rare earths was yet unknown. His placing them in separate groups seems to indicate 32-column thinking. Double sharp ( talk) 16:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
As a member of WikiProject Elements, you are invited to comment and vote here.
(Yes, I'm posting this on all active members' talkpages.) Double sharp ( talk) 14:36, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I notice
Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/List_of_pages/Articles isn't working any more and I don't see an "all medical pages" option in {{
WPMED related changes}}
. Would it be possible to add that option to the template? (Sorry if this is a dumb question - templates scare me.) --
Anthonyhcole (
talk ·
contribs ·
email)
09:23, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
TWow! Thanks! And that coming from one of the the biggest content-projects we have. - DePiep ( talk) 06:38, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Template | Option separate legend? |
Legend name |
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{{
Periodic table (atomic weight)}}
|
Yes | |
{{
Periodic table (Aufbau principle model)}}
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No | Has no legend |
{{
Periodic table (extended)}}
|
Yes | |
{{
Periodic table (extended, large)}}
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Yes | |
{{
Periodic table (large version)}}
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Yes | |
{{
Periodic table (Pyykkö model)}}
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No | Has no legend |
{{
Periodic table (Pyykkö model, large)}}
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Yes | |
{{
Periodic table (superactinides)}}
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No | Has no legend |
{{
Periodic table (superactinides, by Pyykkö)}}
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No | Has no legend |
{{
Periodic table (wide large)}}
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Yes |
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{{
Periodic table (period 7)}}
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No |
Hi,
DePiep,
There is some code that is causing one of your user pages (
User:DePiep/T pseudo ns) to be tagged with
Category:Wikipedia disambiguation but I can't figure what it is. This is not a category for user pages so if you could remove this categorization, that would be great. Thanks!
Liz
Read!
Talk!
04:43, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
I came across Category:Subtemplates of Template Convert/wrapper templates while talk-page stalking. {{ Chembox MeltingPt}} and {{ Chembox BoilingPt}} both do conversions via hard-coded functions. IIRC, they actually pre-date the standard {{ convert}} suite, and have a different behavior in the use of hyphen vs endash for range/negative values. WP:CHEMS has kicked around changing that for years, you'll definitely want to coordinate there with any changes (the Chembox template suite is large and complicated). DMacks ( talk) 03:22, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi DePiep! I tagged you on a discussion on WPMED. I've been having a bit of trouble creating the society and medicine taskforce ( Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Society_and_medicine_task_force) for WPMED. Other taskforces are able to get an article assessment table created (for example, here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Cardiology task force/Article assessment), but I'm not sure about how to go about doing this. I've created the categories and added one or two articles. How are articles automatically added to the categories? How does one get the assessment table? I've been flummoxed for months and would appreciate any help you can give, or a reference onwards to a third party or place on this website. Kind regards, -- LT910001 ( talk) 03:47, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your invitation to contact you. If I could magically use bots, I'd use a bot to tag every article with the taskforce:
That should net the majority of the articles we wish to catch. Thanks again for your help! -- LT910001 ( talk) 15:38, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
bot request. Do NOT continue here. - DePiep ( talk) 14:22, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Just to let you know that I shall be away 15-23 Dec. Petergans ( talk) 13:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi DePiep: I'm doing a tidy up of the metalloid article. You may see some unusual activity associated with these refinements e.g. I just edited the metalloid border periodic table template. Tx, Sandbh ( talk) 11:42, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Hey, DePiep, I've declined your CSD nomination this redirect. It's not particularly misleading for a shortcut, I don't think, and per this, there is policy support for such shortcuts. Precedent, too. You can still take it to RfD if you like, of course, but I don't think it's clear enough for a speedy deletion. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 18:06, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
The criteria for speedy deletion specify the only cases in which administrators have broad consensus to bypass deletion discussion, at their discretion, and immediately delete Wikipedia pages or media.(emphasis mine) Admins are allowed, and indeed encouraged, to use their discretion in deciding speedy deletion cases. (Also as an aside, one doesn't have to be an admin to decline a speedy deletion nomination; anyone other than the page creator itself can.)
what does DPP stand for, come from, or mean to say or help, not that I didn't know what R3 was. I didn't know exactly what it meant or where it came from, but just because you or I don't know where it came from doesn't mean that nobody does. After all, we have some pretty strange things in Wikipedia or Template space: look at the csd templates themselves. It's not at all straightforward where "db" comes from; one would naturally expect that the CSD templates would start with "csd" or something. They don't, but just because we don't know the reason they're called that ways doesn't mean that there is none. And "DPP" isn't totally implausible: the "D" presumably stands for documentation, and there could be a historical reason that the rest of the shortcut is "PP". Anyway, the speedy deletion template you used says:
a recently created redirect page resulting from a typo or misnomer which is implausible and not common, and not in another language. T:DPP certainly wasn't a typo. Given that there could've been (and in fact was) a redirect that referred to that template as "DPP", it wasn't a misnomer, either. It might not make immediate sense, but it's neither a misnomer nor a typo, so technically speaking, R3 doesn't apply. "Implausible" and "recent", while certainly part, aren't the only two factors that make that CSD criterion apply to a page.
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Is this edit checked? It looks like a mistake, but... :-) Christian75 ( talk) 09:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Since you seems to know something about chemboxes, could you look at the CAS#s in Bis(triphenylphosphine)nickel chloride? Thanks, -- Smokefoot ( talk) 16:22, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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It looks likethere were some inadvertent changes made in your recent edit. Or maybe I missed something. YBG ( talk) 00:19, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Expected, well into January 2014. - DePiep ( talk) 07:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, re this edit: I didn't get a notification, and I suspect that none of the others did either. It's explained at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 121#To ping, or not to ping... - the ping and your signature need to be added with the same edit. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 11:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Hello, DePiep
If it isn't much trouble, I'd like to ask about a few details concerning our disagreement on edit #590655443 in Template:Yesno/doc. Well, it is a very easy question: What is the table attempting to show anyway? I can make neither head nor tail out of this.
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Please excuse me, I write in British English and from my "offence" and your "offense" I guess you write in American English. No problem with that, but I should apologise (or apologize) if it seemed that I was being rude. I know how hard you work at RfD, let alone other places I am sure. Please excuse my typing errors I am not used to this keyboard. Si Trew ( talk) 19:09, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hi DePiep. Thanks again for making the awesome medicine patroller tool. I was wondering if you'd be interested in creating a tiny badge/button-sized tool that retrieves just recent changes to articles (not talk pages) with {{WikiProject Pharmacology}} on their talk page? I want to show it to pharmacologists in the hope of recruiting some as patrollers. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 09:38, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Anthonyhcole. See {{ Pharmacology recent changes}}. Useable? - DePiep ( talk) 01:43, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_25#Template:Wpcm about the nomination of Template:Wpcm in which you may be interested. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 07:46, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
DePiep and @ Double sharp: Time for us to make the change from poor metal to other metal, I reckon. If I change the name of the poor metal article, and load my sandbox into it, is there then a methodical way to change all of the 200 or so other articles/templates? Thank you, Sandbh ( talk) 12:15, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi DePiep
Could you have another look at this article? The sort function no longer works properly as it is including rows two to four, which are heading type rows, when sorting. And once sorted, the sort function stops working. Previously the sort function sorted blank cells first and then occupied cells depending on which column you sorted on, and then you could sort again to get the occupied cells first and then the blank cells. I like the extra rows with names of elements but I think you will have to have the sort keys in the fourth row to get the sort function working as intended. There does not seem to be a way of preventing rows two to four from being sorted, which would otherwise be a solution. Thank you, Sandbh ( talk) 10:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
On my screen Mt–Rg, 113–118 are showing up on a white background rather than the "Unknown chemical properties" colour, and the column width seems very uneven. Could you fix it, please? Double sharp ( talk) 14:26, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
DePiep, @ Double sharp: Interesting question there about the bottom info graphic. Not sure yet how to respond. Simple answer is to delete bottom graphic, as suggested above? Sandbh ( talk) 21:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
In other words: Po is considered a metal in the range of categories (pulled to poor metal in the considerations), At moved differently in that same argumented range battle. If the metalloids page leads to the consequence that Po should be labeled metalloid, we should adjust all our relevant PT pages. A let's-vary-per-page periodic table is introducing inconsistency between enwiki pages. For encyclopedic soundness, that is to be prevented at high costs. I wonder if the metalloids page text does of can clearify this Po/At difference. - DePiep ( talk) 22:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I answered there. We should remove the micro periodic table for reasons of space (=too detailed to explain). I'll remove it upon support, e.g. from Double sharp, Sandbh. Any chance this difference might be explicit in the text ("we in wikipedia apply ..." even)? - DePiep ( talk) 08:40, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
I intend to update the poor metal article with the other metal article in my sandbox. Aim to do so within next 24 hours. Will then change all text mentions in other articles. Good if u can still do templates and images. Haven't forgotten metalloid FA and deciding what to do about micro-PT. Sandbh ( talk) 11:42, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Done OK, this was the main batch I guess (legends & color name changes). See [7] & [8]. - DePiep ( talk) 13:15, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Did you find the explanation at the end of [9] to be at all reasonable? I'm not sure at the moment if I should continue with it or give it up as a useless rehash. Wnt ( talk) 20:02, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
are not good enough for what you are doing for rail guages - thanks... satusuro 15:27, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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There are several redirects for discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_March_27 in which you may be interested. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 15:53, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
so i am not alone in wp Zaid almasri ( talk) 19:28, 30 March 2014 (UTC) |
Hey, I noticed you made a large number of changes to articles with chembox templates, and didn't include a reason or link to the consensus discussion in the edit summary. Was there a consensus discussion for the changes? Agyle ( talk) 16:24, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
lt images size available without disturbance. (described in Wikipedia_talk:CHEMBOX#Chembox_code_update_27_March_2014). The default size settings were not altered! Since the default widths actually work as expected, at last, I removed the explicit settings in the articles. This is what the editsummary refers to: don't set a default in the article. (These earlier settings were more of a trial-and-error outcome because of unpredictable behaviour. Editors had to play with sizes to look for an effect. This stemmed from the text-column width influence. At the moment, it can not be reproduced, but the image pairs were systematically uneven in width, even in stuations where size was explicitly set).
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18:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)You will no doubt be familiar with WP:NPA and WP:AGF. I invite you to strike out or remove your unacceptable and offensive comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your help a couple of months ago getting the Article Assessment table up and running for Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Society and medicine task force. Another user I'm familiar with, CFCF, is trying to get Wikipedia:WikiProject Physiology up and running, and we'd be very grateful if you'd help us get the Article Assessment up and running, or point us in the right direction. Kindly, -- LT910001 ( talk) 23:04, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
There are several redirects for discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_April_14 in which you may be interested. -- Jax 0677 ( talk) 03:20, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
DePiep, I think I've done all of the changes to articles. Cld you do the templates? If you can see any articles I've missed just let me know. Thank you, Sandbh ( talk) 12:00, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
DePiep,
Today a manual Railgauge edit ( [10]) of me on Robert Stephenson was reverted, partially due to an error caused by me.
After examination and an attempt to correctly restore my edit, User:Edgepedia reverted my restore with some interesting arguments about RailGauge template usage on Talk:Robert Stephenson#railgauge template. Can you please take a look at these so I can address the issues raised?
(my comments on the arguments (italics) as given on the Stephenson talk page):
-- Aaron-Tripel ( talk) 15:17, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
And I reply to you, more loose.
My bad; templates all done as far as I can see. Thank you. Sandbh ( talk) 04:39, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't know why you reverted my edit to Spray (sailing vessel). Your edit summary "we don't do no idle edit" makes absolutely no sense. The template {{italic title}} does exactly the same thing as your addition of {{DISPLAYTITLE:''Spray'' (sailing vessel)}} does but with a much cleaner edit. You can read more about the template here: Template:Italic title. — Diiscool ( talk) 20:41, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
That was a bizarre exchange at ANI. I sincerely thought we were in agreement until I logged on again and saw it was gone. I don't really mind, but am a little confused.
Although you began with:
"No, no refactoring. Closing admins have made a point out of grouped TfD's, and there is no super-guidance. I will not risk another "wrong place" argument by any admin."
you shortly followed it up with:
"I reverted. Admins are less smart than you are."
Which, to me, sounded like you were saying "Nevermind (I revise my stance and have reinstated your actions). Admins are dumb (so you need not listen)." Though I have gathered from the leading statement at ANI you believed I was ignoring you:
... I reverted early
[312]313, but that was undone.
Now I'm curious: what did you mean by "...Admins are less smart than you are"? Separate statement entirely, or what?
Not mad, just surprised you opened an ANI thread for it. Meteor_sandwich_yum ( talk) 09:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
I would advise you to not put messages or "Grave dance" on Nergaal talk page, as it could be seen as personal attacks, and you could see your own ANI turned against you. Also be less hostile on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elements, some of the stuff that you are putting on there are borderline and sometimes even blatant attacks on editors. Just remember Wikipedia is not battlefield. TheMesquito buzz 06:45, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
Do you have any idea how to get the templates to stop adding themselves to Category:Languages without family color codes? I've tried 'include only' etc, but can't figure it out.
— kwami ( talk) 07:00, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
|demospace=main
. It will trick the user page to think it is in mainspace (and add that category if it would in true mainspace).Done: see Template_talk:Infobox_language#For_maintenance_categories:_using_main_other. Unfortunately, for the moment no test option is possible. - DePiep ( talk) 14:28, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi I'm ZackDickens12 and why did you get rid of the welcome message? →Zackdickens12→ →Talk to me!→ 07:16, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi DePiep. I was just wondering.. if you are thinking of doing something completely different to the Elements WikiProject to challenge your brain in a different way, this is an article I wrote a while back. Unfortunately it suffers from major cases of "quotism" and "triviaism". Which my articles tend to do. So I was wondering if perhaps you'd consider giving it a little once-over. As far as I'm aware, most to all possible sources are already in the article, so that side of things shouldnt be an issue. Copyediting has never been my strong point so I've always relied on the help of better Wiki-editors to move forward an article I've started. If this interests you, please give me a shout. :)-- Coin945 ( talk) 17:34, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, re
this edit. Two things: (i) by moving one double apostrophe inside the {{
cot}}
, you've caused two cases of unclosed italics; (ii) it's not self-evident, see for example
User talk:Redrose64#Why there are some categories that are categorized as hidden, that doesn't have a "hiddencat" in its text field? --
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23:45, 15 May 2014 (UTC)