I promise to follow citation and reference rules from now on
Hello, DarlingDavid. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Belock Recording Studio, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:
{{proposed deletion/dated...}}
Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. ubiquity ( talk) 15:16, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
I am not explaining anything to you. If others who read the article wish to correct, support or add to it, they may of course. It is the basis of a collaboration which you obviously do not want to even start. You are really in censorship mode rather than improvement mode. If there are any factual errors or incorrect statements in my article please list them Ubiquity. If you cannot then shut up.
Everything I have stated here is based on personal research and primary sources.
I leave the floor open to other members with perhaps more knowledge than either of us to make such corrections as necessary.
Cheers
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Belock Recording Studio is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belock Recording Studio until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ubiquity ( talk) 16:17, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
I haven't the time presently to give all the footnotes and citations I have in my files which are in storage anyway. I will include this article in the Everest Records article which could do with a complete rewrite, at a later stage.
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove
Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in
Articles for deletion debates, as you did with
Belock Recording Studio. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create
consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please
comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.
ubiquity (
talk)
18:08, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Please remember to
assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on
Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted?. Thank you.
Super
Mario
Man–
Talk
16:49, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
I left a comment on YOUR page and please read it. I will repost the article or include it in the Everest Records article which has a number of inaccuracies and is incomplete, so I will probably rewrite that at the same time. In the meantime. Let's not have another QWORTY!
Please do not add or change content, as you did at
RAF Croughton, without citing a
reliable source. Please review the guidelines at
Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Those "sources" do not satisfy the requirements for
verifiability.
David Biddulph (
talk)
13:32, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
You state at the head of the article that much of this article has no reliable reference to sources. Much of the article seems a reiteration of standard official information contained in publications issued by the defence community and govetnment agencies. Even if it were primary evidence it would be unreliable to the extent it would be one sided. I therefire fail to see your picking and choosing attitude towards my update. I will supply the necessary citations and references in due course. DarlingDavid ( talk) 08:41, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Clearly, in articles on politically sensitive issues and events, where certain contributors have established an overall gloss on the information that projects a limited, one sided or even slightly unbalanced impression, I have noticed that attempts to edit, update with additional information, are being effectively sabotaged by seasoned practitioners in the Wikipedia community, using the "rules", in order to protect the existing tenor of basically inadequate biased articles.
When an update is made to an article which clearly requires improvement, often declared in the article itself, and the editor states they will add citations and reliable source based references in short time, the update should stand and Talk engaged.
What is unacceptable is arbitrary deletion of updates and edits before the person has had time to add the final polish of citations and references. DarlingDavid ( talk) 08:52, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
It's as as simple as this. I regard you as another troll with a oersonal interest in defence matters. You Sir have a military background and you do not want the shiny authorised version of RAF Croughton presented on Wikipedia, clearly not backed up by reliable independent primary sources, modified in any way by recent developments abd emerging facts in the case of the fugitive Anne Sacoolas and her husband a spy who worked at the base with undisclosed and therefore highly dubious legal immunity.
If the agreement conferring legal immunity on personnel stationed at RAF Croughton was not ratified in an Act of Parliament then Anne Sacoolas has no immunity and is simply a hit and run driver wanted in the UK to answer police questions about her driving and the accident.
It's as simple as this, I suspect you are even unaware of your own internal bias. You may even be put up to sweep clean any Wikipedia entries concerning USAF bases in the UK for all I know.
I will keep reposting and editing this article as I see fit and as stated in talk if you bothered to read it, I will citate and reference in good time.
In the meantime get back to your RAF magazines.
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
.
331dot (
talk)
12:58, 10 October 2019 (UTC)There's clearly old fashioned censorship at work. DarlingDavid ( talk) 13:59, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
I'll review my postings and updates with regard to a fully cited and referenced update to the RAF Croughton article which is currently lackibg any independently sourced contributions outside the authorised version that has been gleaned and literally skimmed from Government and Defence based publications. There is a great deal of controversy now concerning the arrangements thar USAF / American Intelligence units occupy and can operate on British territory and there is a clear need to update and improve this article taking that into account.
I will get back to you.
As above, I find my individual treatment is highly authoritarian and reveals a lack of any true transparency or democracy in the Wikipedia foundation. My initial suspicions that Wikipedia was essentially a right wing neo-conservative state sponsered tool set up to effectively shape and control the cultural legacy, and essentially revise the 20th Century history available on the web in particular, has been rather confirmed. DarlingDavid ( talk) 10:16, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
I promise to follow citation and reference rules from now on
Hello, DarlingDavid. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Belock Recording Studio, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:
{{proposed deletion/dated...}}
Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. ubiquity ( talk) 15:16, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
I am not explaining anything to you. If others who read the article wish to correct, support or add to it, they may of course. It is the basis of a collaboration which you obviously do not want to even start. You are really in censorship mode rather than improvement mode. If there are any factual errors or incorrect statements in my article please list them Ubiquity. If you cannot then shut up.
Everything I have stated here is based on personal research and primary sources.
I leave the floor open to other members with perhaps more knowledge than either of us to make such corrections as necessary.
Cheers
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Belock Recording Studio is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belock Recording Studio until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ubiquity ( talk) 16:17, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
I haven't the time presently to give all the footnotes and citations I have in my files which are in storage anyway. I will include this article in the Everest Records article which could do with a complete rewrite, at a later stage.
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove
Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in
Articles for deletion debates, as you did with
Belock Recording Studio. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create
consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please
comment at the respective page instead. Thank you.
ubiquity (
talk)
18:08, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Please remember to
assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on
Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted?. Thank you.
Super
Mario
Man–
Talk
16:49, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
I left a comment on YOUR page and please read it. I will repost the article or include it in the Everest Records article which has a number of inaccuracies and is incomplete, so I will probably rewrite that at the same time. In the meantime. Let's not have another QWORTY!
Please do not add or change content, as you did at
RAF Croughton, without citing a
reliable source. Please review the guidelines at
Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Those "sources" do not satisfy the requirements for
verifiability.
David Biddulph (
talk)
13:32, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
You state at the head of the article that much of this article has no reliable reference to sources. Much of the article seems a reiteration of standard official information contained in publications issued by the defence community and govetnment agencies. Even if it were primary evidence it would be unreliable to the extent it would be one sided. I therefire fail to see your picking and choosing attitude towards my update. I will supply the necessary citations and references in due course. DarlingDavid ( talk) 08:41, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Clearly, in articles on politically sensitive issues and events, where certain contributors have established an overall gloss on the information that projects a limited, one sided or even slightly unbalanced impression, I have noticed that attempts to edit, update with additional information, are being effectively sabotaged by seasoned practitioners in the Wikipedia community, using the "rules", in order to protect the existing tenor of basically inadequate biased articles.
When an update is made to an article which clearly requires improvement, often declared in the article itself, and the editor states they will add citations and reliable source based references in short time, the update should stand and Talk engaged.
What is unacceptable is arbitrary deletion of updates and edits before the person has had time to add the final polish of citations and references. DarlingDavid ( talk) 08:52, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
It's as as simple as this. I regard you as another troll with a oersonal interest in defence matters. You Sir have a military background and you do not want the shiny authorised version of RAF Croughton presented on Wikipedia, clearly not backed up by reliable independent primary sources, modified in any way by recent developments abd emerging facts in the case of the fugitive Anne Sacoolas and her husband a spy who worked at the base with undisclosed and therefore highly dubious legal immunity.
If the agreement conferring legal immunity on personnel stationed at RAF Croughton was not ratified in an Act of Parliament then Anne Sacoolas has no immunity and is simply a hit and run driver wanted in the UK to answer police questions about her driving and the accident.
It's as simple as this, I suspect you are even unaware of your own internal bias. You may even be put up to sweep clean any Wikipedia entries concerning USAF bases in the UK for all I know.
I will keep reposting and editing this article as I see fit and as stated in talk if you bothered to read it, I will citate and reference in good time.
In the meantime get back to your RAF magazines.
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
.
331dot (
talk)
12:58, 10 October 2019 (UTC)There's clearly old fashioned censorship at work. DarlingDavid ( talk) 13:59, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
I'll review my postings and updates with regard to a fully cited and referenced update to the RAF Croughton article which is currently lackibg any independently sourced contributions outside the authorised version that has been gleaned and literally skimmed from Government and Defence based publications. There is a great deal of controversy now concerning the arrangements thar USAF / American Intelligence units occupy and can operate on British territory and there is a clear need to update and improve this article taking that into account.
I will get back to you.
As above, I find my individual treatment is highly authoritarian and reveals a lack of any true transparency or democracy in the Wikipedia foundation. My initial suspicions that Wikipedia was essentially a right wing neo-conservative state sponsered tool set up to effectively shape and control the cultural legacy, and essentially revise the 20th Century history available on the web in particular, has been rather confirmed. DarlingDavid ( talk) 10:16, 22 December 2020 (UTC)