Hi dark tea, I look forward to your "Platonic Racial Definitions with Australia" template. Fred ☻ 16:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dark Tea. I wanted to bring your attention to my undoing of one of your edits in case I misunderstood your intention. You removed the word "necessarily" from the second sentence in this sequence: "In the various "Color" terminology for race, indigenous East Asians are often thought of as the "yellow people" or the "yellow race" in Western culture. East Asians themselves don't necessarily use these terms to refer to themselves." Your comment says "removed the word "necessarily" per WP:WTA on absolutes which advance a point of view."
Actually, removing the word makes the sentence absolute, because it is preceded by "not." So the previous version of the sentence suggests that some East Asians refer to themselves with the terms "yellow people" or "yellow race," whereas the version without "necessarily" states that no East Asians refer to themselves that way. Although the color terms are definitely controversial in East Asia, some East Asians do use them. Japanese rappers, for example, frequently call themselves "kin iroi yatsu" (yellow guys), especially when calling for uniquely Japanese or pan-Asian hip-hop practices.
I wonder, however, if we even need to bring this up on the East Asia entry? Frankly, I'm not sure why the color terminology is even there. Any objections to removing it altogether? Rikyu 15:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Dear Dark Tea. Just letting you know that researches such as this and others show there's no such thing as the "Pure Caucasoid" individual. One-drop rule strictly applied in light of such DNA tests shows, for example, that a significant number of White Americans have some sub-Saharan African or Native American ancestry, and leaves few perfectly White-looking people in your definition of the Caucasoid category. Also, regarding the long obsolete 1890 ethnography map, it shows the coexistence of Aryan and Dravidian people in North India, and not necessarily their mixing. Your edits also contradict what the text of the article has to say. Please consider reverting your edits. deeptrivia ( talk) 18:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
The paper is from the American Journal of Human Genetics:
Think about it with an open mind, there's always something new to learn. deeptrivia ( talk) 20:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Users are allowed to blank their talk pages - constantly reverting to add an archive is disruptive and rude, and will not be permitted to continue. Cheers, Wily D 20:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
See what he wrote, and look at his edit history. I'm sick of this crap. You don't know the whole story. - Jeeny Talk 05:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I noticed Europid. Do you think that there is really much reason to have a "definition" article about a term that doesn't appear to be widespread? It seems that WP:NEO is particularly relevant. Maybe it is better for Wiktionary? The Behnam 18:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
I fully support the warning you gave (since blanked) the above editor for the vandalism of User:Baron von Washington's talkpage. It may, however, have been prudent to remove the vandalism as well. I have now done so. Cheers. LessHeard vanU 14:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that you link the "Tea" part of your signature to your talk page instead of linking both to your user page? To read the Europid response I clicked the second one expecting it to go to talk like most people's sigs. I'm on dialup so the big picture on your user page slows things, and besides, I wanted to go to talk not user page. Also, about your user page, why does it say "actor or actress" Tobey Maguire? It seems like he is an actor (not an actress) based on his article. Is that userbox supposed to be some kind of disparaging joke? The Behnam 20:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I have modified the lead so that it says exactly what the Dictionary.com reference you cited is saying. The existing sentence had several problems.
Hopefully you'll be a bit more careful in future. Regards, deeptrivia ( talk) 05:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thanks i did not know how to do the sig Ishmaelblues 02:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for correcting me, there. I misread, thought it was altitudes, not latitudes. Thanks for fixin' it, though. Lychosis T/ C 02:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi friend, [1] - Just thought I'd tell you that that is actually a film that he was in :-D - I know how it looks like vandalism but it's not :-) The anon who added it in also said something about it on the article discussion page before adding it in. But good stuff for keeping an eye open! Scarian Talk 05:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Wiki Raja 04:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
You might want to take a look. Rubenstein and others are POV-pushing after fourdee and Karen were banned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:White_people MoritzB 20:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Could you explain your reverts on the talk page? Also, where's the anti-dravidian commentary you mention in the edit summary? Lotlil 21:15, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your concern but it was not a personal attack. Slrubenstein | Talk 18:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Behnam removed neutral POV cited material and made very clearly false OR claims (that South Asia and Southern Asia). Isn't deleting non-controversial cited information vandalism. People got in trouble for removing Afghanistan and Iran from the South Asia page in the past, why shouldn't he/she. Thegreyanomaly 05:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
basically what s/he did was that s/he moved Iran to Southern Asia and completely removed Afghanistan (which I had plenty of citations for). The removal of cited information seems to be what I most can call vandalism. He also has reverted
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template%3AAsian_capitals&diff=155371612&oldid=155338667 two times already (and I believe multiple times in the past 70.48.244.95). I warned him of 3RR in case he strikes again soon. He removes sourced information claiming he has superior sources, but does not show these sources...
Thegreyanomaly
16:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello. The article Stereotypes of whites, which you helped writing, is being nominated for deletion. If you want, you could state your opinion here. Thank you. M.V.E.i. 20:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
Here is the outcome of the final decision for AfD on the Dravidian civilizations article:
“ | The result was no consensus to delete; defaulting to keep. This is most certainly not a 'hoax'; there are plenty of sources to show that this is a valid concept. However, the views of the Community were split down the middle with strong opinions on both sides. What is clear is that there are significant parts of the article that are disputed and the way forward is for those concerned editors to initiate a thorough-going rewrite. TerriersFan 20:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC) | ” |
Wiki Raja 23:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Why do you only edit articles about classifying races? Don't misunderstand; I'm sure you do a lot of useful work on these articles; I'm just curious why you devote your edits exclusively to this topic.-- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 06:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dark Tea, I have a couple of questions regarding a map you uploaded and then redrew. The images in question are Image:Louis Agassiz Racial Definition Map.png and it's precursor Image:Louis Agassiz Racial Definition Map.JPG. Firstly, regarding the source of the information, you state that it is "A map of the racial definitions of the historical race scientist Louis Agassiz" as a description, but you do not state where you got the information. I do not dispute that this information is correct, but I think we need to cite this information to a reliable source. As such I have placed a {{fact}} tag on the article Race (historical definitions) article for this map. Can you remember where this information came from? We need to be able to verify that this is indeed an accurate representation of Luis Agassiz's work, for this we need a citation for the map. Thanks for any help you can provide. As a second point I'd like to ask if you think there is a difference between your first map and your second map? It seems to me that the first map shows the British Isles and south eastern Europe (Italy, the Balkans and Greece) as different to other Europeans. On the first map the British Isles and south eastern Europe are coloured grey, whereas the rest of Europe is coloured black, on the second version the whole of Europe is black, including the British Isles and south eastern Europe. Is there a reason for this or is it merely a mistake on the first version? Thanks for any help. All the best. Alun 08:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Another point, the citation Template:François Bernier Racial Definitions is a dead link. Can you remember what the source was? A proper cite would be best rather than a simple link. We need to be able to verify this as well. Cheers. Alun 08:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but I noticed that you modified Image:Francois Bernier Racial Definitions.jpg to reduce the area that the Sami (Laps) occupy because Lukas19 claimed that Sami only live in northern Scandinavia. I think there are several reasons why this was a mistake:
Sorry to go an a bit, just thought it was worth mentioning. I know you as a good faith and conscientious editor and hope you take my comments in good faith as they are intended. All the best. Alun 16:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dark Tea, in Asian Fetish at 03:09, 26 May 2007 you attributed a "many thinks..." argument to Vicky Nam. This argument is now marked as "citation needed". Does it comes from Vicky Nam's YELL-oh Girls, cited in the next paragraph? Could you please take a second and confirm that the "many -> Vicky Nam" attibution was not an error? Sorry, please don't be offended, I just want to sort out the sources correctly in this article :) Kaitenbushi 11:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
This is marginal research, being presented as fact. Coon, for example, can only be referenced for Coon's article. His 'theories' are not accepted by other anthropologists. This was established in arbitration and elsewhere. I am happy to take this to a forum for discussion, the assertions are fringe or original research. Cygnis insignis 04:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I think you need to coordinate major changes with other editors rather than carrying them out impulsively, and that it might be useful for you to participate in the WikiProjects covering your areas of interest, such as:
-- JWB 20:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Wiki Raja 04:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I have never seen a single source identifying Tibetans are East Asians. I have only seen them consulted as South Asians or Central Asians. Please consult South Asia for my list of sources identifying Tibetans as South Asian. The document attached listed Tibetans as Other Asians, so I will shift Tibetan Americans to other Thegreyanomaly 05:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I notice you are citing not the legitimate 1915 edition of Gobineau, but a reprint from Noontide Press, the publishing arm of the Institute for Historical Review, both founded by the leading organizer of modern American anti-Semitism, Willis Carto. I changed the cite in Caucasian race, but it is still there in Mongoloid race and who knows where else.
Are you purchasing from these Nazis? Somehow I doubt their books are stocked in libraries. -- JWB 09:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I have closed your sockpuppet case. I decided that even though the accounts involved committed infractions of editing policy, enough time has past since the last time they edited that blocks are not necessary. Please keep an eye on them, however, and let me know if further corrective action may be needed. RyanGerbil10 (C-Town) 17:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Hope you like the barnstar. Keep up the good work! Wiki Raja 23:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me Dark Tea, nobody said anything about Indians being 'pure Caucasians'. I certainly didn't. It seems as though you have a hidden agenda - to push your numerous citations in the hope of proving that Indians aren't 'pure' Caucasians. Who said anything about 'pure Caucasians'? Now, if we're talking about what is laughable, your 'pure Caucasian' remark takes the biscuit.
That section is far too specific to be on a general page about the Mongoloid Race. By all means add it to a page specific to the racial make up of India. Why justs single out ONE country? Why not add sections equal in length about other nations with Mongoloid influence such as China, Japan, North and South Korea and the nations of South East Asia? Why not comment on the Mongoloid influence in Central Asia and Western Asia, such as the Hazaras, of Persianised Mongol origin.
In fact, your remark was overtly aggressive, especially the 'face it' part. It seems like the only person worried about making people aware of how im'pure' Indians are is you.
Face it.
I'm removing the section. Add it to an India - specific page. That is where it belongs.
Toodles.
Pureaswater 23:01, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I hate to butt in like this, but y'all are going into an edit war and are perilously close to violating the Wikipedia:Three-revert rule. I would suggest that you leave the article alone for 24 hours and use the time to discuss a compromise, seek a neutral third party, and just gain a sense of perspective. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 23:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Haha.
I'm not even Indian!
I KNOW all Indians aren't Caucasian. In fact, the overwhelming majority aren't. Only specific populations such as the Punjabis can lay claim to being Caucasian, and they represent a small minority on the Indian Subcontinent, so that's not saying much is it.
If you want to be so painstakingly specific, then add large sections about the Mongoloid influence of all other nations that have a degree of Mongoloid influence, such as the Far East, South Eastern Asia, Central Asia, and parts of Western Asia.
That is completely reasonable.
Otherwise, stop singling out India on pages non-specific to nations. You're pushing an agenda that is painfully obvious for all to see.
Maybe you should create a page on the racial make up of India where your information would sit more comfortably.
Many thanks,
Pureaswater 23:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I understand.
For the time being, I think its best to leave out the section on India until all other sections about other nations with Mongoloid influence are added, so that there is a balance.
I just want to clarify something. I am not trying to push the 'all Indians are Caucasian' lie. That's absolutely ridiculous. As I stated before, the overwhelming majority of Indians are definitely not Caucasoid by any definition of the term. The only populations with the Caucasian label in India are the Punjabis and Kashmiris, and they only number roughly around 40 million in India, which is tiny, compared to over 1 billion people.
The vast overwhelming majority of people on the Indian Subcontinent are by no means Caucasian.
I'm glad we both agree on that.
Thanks,
Pureaswater 14:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
This guy appears to be launching an attack on the Asian Americans article, attempting to remove Indian American content. Considering that you appear to be his lead opponent, I feel you should know. I, as an Indian American, have been considered Asian American by most of the people around me, and the buffoonery of people such as Iseebias enrages me. Thegreyanomaly 01:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm just writing to you to request your help and assistance in referencing the Japanese Music Charts. Through out alot of popular english songs I have viewed I have noticed that they have been noted as performing well in Japan and have also read that the Japanese music market it very big. But in saying this every song I have seen has not got a Japanese chart position in the charts box. So if you are into music and willing to try and provide information on the Japanese Music Charts it would be greatly appreciated so then wikipedia users can start adding the Japanese chart positions into the chart boxes for popular songs. TeePee-20.7 ( talk) 17:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi dark tea, I look forward to your "Platonic Racial Definitions with Australia" template. Fred ☻ 16:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dark Tea. I wanted to bring your attention to my undoing of one of your edits in case I misunderstood your intention. You removed the word "necessarily" from the second sentence in this sequence: "In the various "Color" terminology for race, indigenous East Asians are often thought of as the "yellow people" or the "yellow race" in Western culture. East Asians themselves don't necessarily use these terms to refer to themselves." Your comment says "removed the word "necessarily" per WP:WTA on absolutes which advance a point of view."
Actually, removing the word makes the sentence absolute, because it is preceded by "not." So the previous version of the sentence suggests that some East Asians refer to themselves with the terms "yellow people" or "yellow race," whereas the version without "necessarily" states that no East Asians refer to themselves that way. Although the color terms are definitely controversial in East Asia, some East Asians do use them. Japanese rappers, for example, frequently call themselves "kin iroi yatsu" (yellow guys), especially when calling for uniquely Japanese or pan-Asian hip-hop practices.
I wonder, however, if we even need to bring this up on the East Asia entry? Frankly, I'm not sure why the color terminology is even there. Any objections to removing it altogether? Rikyu 15:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Dear Dark Tea. Just letting you know that researches such as this and others show there's no such thing as the "Pure Caucasoid" individual. One-drop rule strictly applied in light of such DNA tests shows, for example, that a significant number of White Americans have some sub-Saharan African or Native American ancestry, and leaves few perfectly White-looking people in your definition of the Caucasoid category. Also, regarding the long obsolete 1890 ethnography map, it shows the coexistence of Aryan and Dravidian people in North India, and not necessarily their mixing. Your edits also contradict what the text of the article has to say. Please consider reverting your edits. deeptrivia ( talk) 18:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
The paper is from the American Journal of Human Genetics:
Think about it with an open mind, there's always something new to learn. deeptrivia ( talk) 20:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Users are allowed to blank their talk pages - constantly reverting to add an archive is disruptive and rude, and will not be permitted to continue. Cheers, Wily D 20:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
See what he wrote, and look at his edit history. I'm sick of this crap. You don't know the whole story. - Jeeny Talk 05:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I noticed Europid. Do you think that there is really much reason to have a "definition" article about a term that doesn't appear to be widespread? It seems that WP:NEO is particularly relevant. Maybe it is better for Wiktionary? The Behnam 18:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
I fully support the warning you gave (since blanked) the above editor for the vandalism of User:Baron von Washington's talkpage. It may, however, have been prudent to remove the vandalism as well. I have now done so. Cheers. LessHeard vanU 14:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that you link the "Tea" part of your signature to your talk page instead of linking both to your user page? To read the Europid response I clicked the second one expecting it to go to talk like most people's sigs. I'm on dialup so the big picture on your user page slows things, and besides, I wanted to go to talk not user page. Also, about your user page, why does it say "actor or actress" Tobey Maguire? It seems like he is an actor (not an actress) based on his article. Is that userbox supposed to be some kind of disparaging joke? The Behnam 20:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I have modified the lead so that it says exactly what the Dictionary.com reference you cited is saying. The existing sentence had several problems.
Hopefully you'll be a bit more careful in future. Regards, deeptrivia ( talk) 05:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thanks i did not know how to do the sig Ishmaelblues 02:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for correcting me, there. I misread, thought it was altitudes, not latitudes. Thanks for fixin' it, though. Lychosis T/ C 02:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi friend, [1] - Just thought I'd tell you that that is actually a film that he was in :-D - I know how it looks like vandalism but it's not :-) The anon who added it in also said something about it on the article discussion page before adding it in. But good stuff for keeping an eye open! Scarian Talk 05:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Wiki Raja 04:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
You might want to take a look. Rubenstein and others are POV-pushing after fourdee and Karen were banned. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:White_people MoritzB 20:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Could you explain your reverts on the talk page? Also, where's the anti-dravidian commentary you mention in the edit summary? Lotlil 21:15, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your concern but it was not a personal attack. Slrubenstein | Talk 18:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Behnam removed neutral POV cited material and made very clearly false OR claims (that South Asia and Southern Asia). Isn't deleting non-controversial cited information vandalism. People got in trouble for removing Afghanistan and Iran from the South Asia page in the past, why shouldn't he/she. Thegreyanomaly 05:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
basically what s/he did was that s/he moved Iran to Southern Asia and completely removed Afghanistan (which I had plenty of citations for). The removal of cited information seems to be what I most can call vandalism. He also has reverted
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template%3AAsian_capitals&diff=155371612&oldid=155338667 two times already (and I believe multiple times in the past 70.48.244.95). I warned him of 3RR in case he strikes again soon. He removes sourced information claiming he has superior sources, but does not show these sources...
Thegreyanomaly
16:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello. The article Stereotypes of whites, which you helped writing, is being nominated for deletion. If you want, you could state your opinion here. Thank you. M.V.E.i. 20:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
Here is the outcome of the final decision for AfD on the Dravidian civilizations article:
“ | The result was no consensus to delete; defaulting to keep. This is most certainly not a 'hoax'; there are plenty of sources to show that this is a valid concept. However, the views of the Community were split down the middle with strong opinions on both sides. What is clear is that there are significant parts of the article that are disputed and the way forward is for those concerned editors to initiate a thorough-going rewrite. TerriersFan 20:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC) | ” |
Wiki Raja 23:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Why do you only edit articles about classifying races? Don't misunderstand; I'm sure you do a lot of useful work on these articles; I'm just curious why you devote your edits exclusively to this topic.-- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 06:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dark Tea, I have a couple of questions regarding a map you uploaded and then redrew. The images in question are Image:Louis Agassiz Racial Definition Map.png and it's precursor Image:Louis Agassiz Racial Definition Map.JPG. Firstly, regarding the source of the information, you state that it is "A map of the racial definitions of the historical race scientist Louis Agassiz" as a description, but you do not state where you got the information. I do not dispute that this information is correct, but I think we need to cite this information to a reliable source. As such I have placed a {{fact}} tag on the article Race (historical definitions) article for this map. Can you remember where this information came from? We need to be able to verify that this is indeed an accurate representation of Luis Agassiz's work, for this we need a citation for the map. Thanks for any help you can provide. As a second point I'd like to ask if you think there is a difference between your first map and your second map? It seems to me that the first map shows the British Isles and south eastern Europe (Italy, the Balkans and Greece) as different to other Europeans. On the first map the British Isles and south eastern Europe are coloured grey, whereas the rest of Europe is coloured black, on the second version the whole of Europe is black, including the British Isles and south eastern Europe. Is there a reason for this or is it merely a mistake on the first version? Thanks for any help. All the best. Alun 08:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Another point, the citation Template:François Bernier Racial Definitions is a dead link. Can you remember what the source was? A proper cite would be best rather than a simple link. We need to be able to verify this as well. Cheers. Alun 08:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, but I noticed that you modified Image:Francois Bernier Racial Definitions.jpg to reduce the area that the Sami (Laps) occupy because Lukas19 claimed that Sami only live in northern Scandinavia. I think there are several reasons why this was a mistake:
Sorry to go an a bit, just thought it was worth mentioning. I know you as a good faith and conscientious editor and hope you take my comments in good faith as they are intended. All the best. Alun 16:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Dark Tea, in Asian Fetish at 03:09, 26 May 2007 you attributed a "many thinks..." argument to Vicky Nam. This argument is now marked as "citation needed". Does it comes from Vicky Nam's YELL-oh Girls, cited in the next paragraph? Could you please take a second and confirm that the "many -> Vicky Nam" attibution was not an error? Sorry, please don't be offended, I just want to sort out the sources correctly in this article :) Kaitenbushi 11:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
This is marginal research, being presented as fact. Coon, for example, can only be referenced for Coon's article. His 'theories' are not accepted by other anthropologists. This was established in arbitration and elsewhere. I am happy to take this to a forum for discussion, the assertions are fringe or original research. Cygnis insignis 04:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I think you need to coordinate major changes with other editors rather than carrying them out impulsively, and that it might be useful for you to participate in the WikiProjects covering your areas of interest, such as:
-- JWB 20:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Wiki Raja 04:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I have never seen a single source identifying Tibetans are East Asians. I have only seen them consulted as South Asians or Central Asians. Please consult South Asia for my list of sources identifying Tibetans as South Asian. The document attached listed Tibetans as Other Asians, so I will shift Tibetan Americans to other Thegreyanomaly 05:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I notice you are citing not the legitimate 1915 edition of Gobineau, but a reprint from Noontide Press, the publishing arm of the Institute for Historical Review, both founded by the leading organizer of modern American anti-Semitism, Willis Carto. I changed the cite in Caucasian race, but it is still there in Mongoloid race and who knows where else.
Are you purchasing from these Nazis? Somehow I doubt their books are stocked in libraries. -- JWB 09:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I have closed your sockpuppet case. I decided that even though the accounts involved committed infractions of editing policy, enough time has past since the last time they edited that blocks are not necessary. Please keep an eye on them, however, and let me know if further corrective action may be needed. RyanGerbil10 (C-Town) 17:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Hope you like the barnstar. Keep up the good work! Wiki Raja 23:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me Dark Tea, nobody said anything about Indians being 'pure Caucasians'. I certainly didn't. It seems as though you have a hidden agenda - to push your numerous citations in the hope of proving that Indians aren't 'pure' Caucasians. Who said anything about 'pure Caucasians'? Now, if we're talking about what is laughable, your 'pure Caucasian' remark takes the biscuit.
That section is far too specific to be on a general page about the Mongoloid Race. By all means add it to a page specific to the racial make up of India. Why justs single out ONE country? Why not add sections equal in length about other nations with Mongoloid influence such as China, Japan, North and South Korea and the nations of South East Asia? Why not comment on the Mongoloid influence in Central Asia and Western Asia, such as the Hazaras, of Persianised Mongol origin.
In fact, your remark was overtly aggressive, especially the 'face it' part. It seems like the only person worried about making people aware of how im'pure' Indians are is you.
Face it.
I'm removing the section. Add it to an India - specific page. That is where it belongs.
Toodles.
Pureaswater 23:01, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I hate to butt in like this, but y'all are going into an edit war and are perilously close to violating the Wikipedia:Three-revert rule. I would suggest that you leave the article alone for 24 hours and use the time to discuss a compromise, seek a neutral third party, and just gain a sense of perspective. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 23:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Haha.
I'm not even Indian!
I KNOW all Indians aren't Caucasian. In fact, the overwhelming majority aren't. Only specific populations such as the Punjabis can lay claim to being Caucasian, and they represent a small minority on the Indian Subcontinent, so that's not saying much is it.
If you want to be so painstakingly specific, then add large sections about the Mongoloid influence of all other nations that have a degree of Mongoloid influence, such as the Far East, South Eastern Asia, Central Asia, and parts of Western Asia.
That is completely reasonable.
Otherwise, stop singling out India on pages non-specific to nations. You're pushing an agenda that is painfully obvious for all to see.
Maybe you should create a page on the racial make up of India where your information would sit more comfortably.
Many thanks,
Pureaswater 23:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I understand.
For the time being, I think its best to leave out the section on India until all other sections about other nations with Mongoloid influence are added, so that there is a balance.
I just want to clarify something. I am not trying to push the 'all Indians are Caucasian' lie. That's absolutely ridiculous. As I stated before, the overwhelming majority of Indians are definitely not Caucasoid by any definition of the term. The only populations with the Caucasian label in India are the Punjabis and Kashmiris, and they only number roughly around 40 million in India, which is tiny, compared to over 1 billion people.
The vast overwhelming majority of people on the Indian Subcontinent are by no means Caucasian.
I'm glad we both agree on that.
Thanks,
Pureaswater 14:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
This guy appears to be launching an attack on the Asian Americans article, attempting to remove Indian American content. Considering that you appear to be his lead opponent, I feel you should know. I, as an Indian American, have been considered Asian American by most of the people around me, and the buffoonery of people such as Iseebias enrages me. Thegreyanomaly 01:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm just writing to you to request your help and assistance in referencing the Japanese Music Charts. Through out alot of popular english songs I have viewed I have noticed that they have been noted as performing well in Japan and have also read that the Japanese music market it very big. But in saying this every song I have seen has not got a Japanese chart position in the charts box. So if you are into music and willing to try and provide information on the Japanese Music Charts it would be greatly appreciated so then wikipedia users can start adding the Japanese chart positions into the chart boxes for popular songs. TeePee-20.7 ( talk) 17:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)