From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Welcome!

Hello, DariaDequan, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as DFR Asia, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{ helpme}} on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!  Uncletomwood ( talk) 04:04, 21 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Speedy deletion nomination of DFR Asia

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on DFR Asia, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Uncletomwood ( talk) 04:04, 21 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Speedy deletion nomination of Dfr asia

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Dfr asia, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Dewritech ( talk) 12:38, 24 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Your contributed article, DFR Asia

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, DFR Asia. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Dfr asia. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Dfr asia – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Dewritech ( talk) 13:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Nomination of DFR Asia for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article DFR Asia is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DFR Asia until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Gtwfan52 ( talk) 01:13, 25 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Your recent edits

Information icon Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

  1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment; or
  2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button ( or ) located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.

Thank you. -- SineBot ( talk) 02:48, 25 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Hi, Daria. I am Gtwfan52. I have been a Wikipedia editor for roughly a year and a half and I have made approximately 15,000 edits. I am writing in regard your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DFR Asia.

Your "battlefield" attitude you are showing there will not help your cause. As I said, I have made roughly 15,000 edits on Wikipedia and the other editor that posted there ( DAJF) has made over 58,000 edits. You have made six. It would behoove you to listen to people who have experience and are not out to get you, but simply doing what Wikipedia policy dictates. Making emotion based arguments at an AfD is not helpful to either yourself or the process. Please read WP:GD, a guide as to how to conduct yourself at an AfD discussion.

You seem to be making a rather common mistake for a newcomer here. You are confusing your real-world view of what is notable with Wikipedia's definition of notability, which is simply the policy here for what can be included in the encyclopedia. The real-world view you have is subjective, whereas the Wikipedia definition is fairly objective.

Encyclopedias, by definition, are what is called "tertiary" (third-party) sources. This is true for all encyclopedias, print and internet included. This means that we only include subjects on which secondary sources are writing on. A secondary source is a source that has no connection with the subject of the article, such as a newspaper or magazine, a book, or an academic journal. Further, Wikipedia has a requirement that sources for showing notability are " independent reliable sources". Independent reliable sources will have some system of fact checking in place and will have no connection at all with the subject they are writing about. Reliable sources include: newspapers (and their websites), magazines (and their websites), books (ones published by mainline publishing houses, not vanity press publishers) and respected academic journals. Note that this list does not include most internet content. For an article to be published in Wikipedia, you must show that the subject has been covered by reliable secondary sources.

Now to address specifically why I nominated the article in question for deletion. There are not any secondary sources that I could find after searching both Google and JSTOR for DFR Asia. At this search on google news, the first item appears to be the company itself (not independent) and the second is prweb.com, from its very title obviously not reliable. A search of Google books turned up the same company website and a mention in a directory (which is not enough to show the detailed coverage required by WP:N). Google scholar turned up nothing, as did JSTOR.

It certainly appears that there is not enough available right now to write an acceptable article about DFR Asia. That is not to say that there never will be, just that it is too soon. I hope this helps you understand what is happening here and that we don't have anything against either you or the company you are writing about. If you have any questions, feel free to write me on my talk page. Gtwfan52 ( talk) 04:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC) reply

DariaDequan, you are invited to the Teahouse

Teahouse logo

Hi DariaDequan! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia.
Be our guest at the Teahouse! The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from peers and experienced editors. I hope to see you there! Writ Keeper ( I'm a Teahouse host)

This message was delivered automatically by your robot friend, HostBot ( talk) 01:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC) reply

June 2013

Information icon Hello, DariaDequan. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article DFR Asia, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:

  • Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
  • Be cautious about deletion discussions. Everyone is welcome to provide information about independent sources in deletion discussions, but avoid advocating for deletion of articles about your competitors.
  • Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
  • Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Toddst1 ( talk) 16:52, 27 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Talkback

Hello, DariaDequan. You have new messages at Gtwfan52's talk page.
Message added 03:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. reply

Gtwfan52 ( talk) 03:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC) reply

Your recent edits

Information icon Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

  1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment; or
  2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button ( or ) located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.

Thank you. -- SineBot ( talk) 06:02, 24 July 2013 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Welcome!

Hello, DariaDequan, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as DFR Asia, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{ helpme}} on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!  Uncletomwood ( talk) 04:04, 21 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Speedy deletion nomination of DFR Asia

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on DFR Asia, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Uncletomwood ( talk) 04:04, 21 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Speedy deletion nomination of Dfr asia

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Dfr asia, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Dewritech ( talk) 12:38, 24 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Your contributed article, DFR Asia

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, DFR Asia. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Dfr asia. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Dfr asia – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

If you think the article you created should remain separate, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Additionally if you would like to have someone review articles you create before they go live so they are not nominated for deletion shortly after you post them, allow me to suggest the article creation process and using our search feature to find related information we already have in the encyclopedia. Try not to be discouraged. Wikipedia looks forward to your future contributions. Dewritech ( talk) 13:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Nomination of DFR Asia for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article DFR Asia is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DFR Asia until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Gtwfan52 ( talk) 01:13, 25 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Your recent edits

Information icon Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

  1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment; or
  2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button ( or ) located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.

Thank you. -- SineBot ( talk) 02:48, 25 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Hi, Daria. I am Gtwfan52. I have been a Wikipedia editor for roughly a year and a half and I have made approximately 15,000 edits. I am writing in regard your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DFR Asia.

Your "battlefield" attitude you are showing there will not help your cause. As I said, I have made roughly 15,000 edits on Wikipedia and the other editor that posted there ( DAJF) has made over 58,000 edits. You have made six. It would behoove you to listen to people who have experience and are not out to get you, but simply doing what Wikipedia policy dictates. Making emotion based arguments at an AfD is not helpful to either yourself or the process. Please read WP:GD, a guide as to how to conduct yourself at an AfD discussion.

You seem to be making a rather common mistake for a newcomer here. You are confusing your real-world view of what is notable with Wikipedia's definition of notability, which is simply the policy here for what can be included in the encyclopedia. The real-world view you have is subjective, whereas the Wikipedia definition is fairly objective.

Encyclopedias, by definition, are what is called "tertiary" (third-party) sources. This is true for all encyclopedias, print and internet included. This means that we only include subjects on which secondary sources are writing on. A secondary source is a source that has no connection with the subject of the article, such as a newspaper or magazine, a book, or an academic journal. Further, Wikipedia has a requirement that sources for showing notability are " independent reliable sources". Independent reliable sources will have some system of fact checking in place and will have no connection at all with the subject they are writing about. Reliable sources include: newspapers (and their websites), magazines (and their websites), books (ones published by mainline publishing houses, not vanity press publishers) and respected academic journals. Note that this list does not include most internet content. For an article to be published in Wikipedia, you must show that the subject has been covered by reliable secondary sources.

Now to address specifically why I nominated the article in question for deletion. There are not any secondary sources that I could find after searching both Google and JSTOR for DFR Asia. At this search on google news, the first item appears to be the company itself (not independent) and the second is prweb.com, from its very title obviously not reliable. A search of Google books turned up the same company website and a mention in a directory (which is not enough to show the detailed coverage required by WP:N). Google scholar turned up nothing, as did JSTOR.

It certainly appears that there is not enough available right now to write an acceptable article about DFR Asia. That is not to say that there never will be, just that it is too soon. I hope this helps you understand what is happening here and that we don't have anything against either you or the company you are writing about. If you have any questions, feel free to write me on my talk page. Gtwfan52 ( talk) 04:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC) reply

DariaDequan, you are invited to the Teahouse

Teahouse logo

Hi DariaDequan! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia.
Be our guest at the Teahouse! The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from peers and experienced editors. I hope to see you there! Writ Keeper ( I'm a Teahouse host)

This message was delivered automatically by your robot friend, HostBot ( talk) 01:16, 26 June 2013 (UTC) reply

June 2013

Information icon Hello, DariaDequan. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article DFR Asia, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:

  • Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
  • Be cautious about deletion discussions. Everyone is welcome to provide information about independent sources in deletion discussions, but avoid advocating for deletion of articles about your competitors.
  • Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
  • Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Toddst1 ( talk) 16:52, 27 June 2013 (UTC) reply

Talkback

Hello, DariaDequan. You have new messages at Gtwfan52's talk page.
Message added 03:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. reply

Gtwfan52 ( talk) 03:04, 24 July 2013 (UTC) reply

Your recent edits

Information icon Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

  1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment; or
  2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button ( or ) located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.

Thank you. -- SineBot ( talk) 06:02, 24 July 2013 (UTC) reply


Videos

Youtube | Vimeo | Bing

Websites

Google | Yahoo | Bing

Encyclopedia

Google | Yahoo | Bing

Facebook