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Thank you for your cooperation with my attempts to make MP as good as it should be, but the majority of people around Errors are not those with whom I wish to spend any more time. Kevin McE ( talk) 15:11, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Dank. Would it be in any way helpful for me to have an attempt at draft blurbs for some of the FACs which pass while you are on your break? (Or at any other time.) For you to review when you are back. Assuming that you don't get to appreciate the tranquility too much. Or anyone else to review, at any time. If not, feel free to simply say so. (I would be inclined to leave the images alone for now.) Gog the Mild ( talk) 21:23, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Gog, while you're here (and pinging @ WP:TFA coordinators too). You mentioned that there hadn't been much reaction to the copyediting work on pages such as WT:Today's featured article/December 2019 ... but a fair number of people have expressed opinions at, for instance, Talk:Beaune Altarpiece. When I get back from my wikibreak in January, I'll be looking to see if there's been any engagement with the people who have commented at Talk:Beaune Altarpiece, and whether GOCE copyeditors are taking comments on board. I don't have much of a say (or much of an opinion, usually) in how these issues are treated at FAC, and I don't think it's any of my business what happens in response to GOCE's request page ... but I do think TFA coords have a role in making sure that anything happening in TFA-space is at least moving in the right direction. (That's all I ask, really, I'm not looking for perfection.) - Dank ( push to talk) 16:16, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Sarastro: Firstly can I say how honoured I feel to receive a direct communication from you, under any circumstances. Although on reflection I also feel a little like a tail ender facing Bob Willis. No, obviously it is not helpful for anyone to edit a FAC, or FAC-wanabe, the subject of which they don't have at least a reasonable grasp of. Ie at least know what they don't know. That is why copy editors hunt in packs: I would only exceptionally copy edit a FAC on a film, video, video game or any sort of music; but another copy editor may feel entirely at home with these. The editor in question is a vastly more experienced copy editor than me and I trusted them to exercise this judgement. (Cue old joke about "assume".) Hopefully it is an easily learned lesson for the future to only edit FACs where we are familiar with the topic, and if none of us are then "First, do no harm." The concept, I still feel, is sound; but we need to work the bugs out damn fast.
I started into the copy edit diff for Gilligan and stopped just after the infobox. Wince. I wish now that I had taken that one myself. I am not at all surprised that you were grumpy. I'm grumpy about what is happening to "my" today's TFA right now, but I expected most of the help not to be. You are entirely justified in being unhappy that this help didn't. I can't defend it, only apologise and say that we will try, hard, to learn from it. I feel highly motivated to; you can imagine my embarrassment that I have broken your ten-month slumber in your dusty box in order to tell me that I screwed up. I may never live this down. Sadly I know some experienced Wikipedians in RL; they certainly won't let me forget. Gog the Mild ( talk) 23:51, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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It says here "The Ray of Sunshine is bestowed on that person who, when you see their name at the top of your watchlist, you know that all is right with the world and that you can relax. May be awarded to any person who consistently brightens your day." So here you go. Gog the Mild ( talk) 21:29, 14 December 2019 (UTC) |
A very happy Christmas and New Year to you! |
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Io, Saturnalia! | |
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:23, 20 December 2019 (UTC) |
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Season's Greetings | |
May your Holidays and the Year that follows shine as much as this coin still does beneath the tarnish of bygone weather and long use. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:24, 20 December 2019 (UTC) |
Hello Dank: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, DBig Xrayᗙ Happy Holidays! 18:13, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you for your cooperation with my attempts to make MP as good as it should be, but the majority of people around Errors are not those with whom I wish to spend any more time. Kevin McE ( talk) 15:11, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Dank. Would it be in any way helpful for me to have an attempt at draft blurbs for some of the FACs which pass while you are on your break? (Or at any other time.) For you to review when you are back. Assuming that you don't get to appreciate the tranquility too much. Or anyone else to review, at any time. If not, feel free to simply say so. (I would be inclined to leave the images alone for now.) Gog the Mild ( talk) 21:23, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Gog, while you're here (and pinging @ WP:TFA coordinators too). You mentioned that there hadn't been much reaction to the copyediting work on pages such as WT:Today's featured article/December 2019 ... but a fair number of people have expressed opinions at, for instance, Talk:Beaune Altarpiece. When I get back from my wikibreak in January, I'll be looking to see if there's been any engagement with the people who have commented at Talk:Beaune Altarpiece, and whether GOCE copyeditors are taking comments on board. I don't have much of a say (or much of an opinion, usually) in how these issues are treated at FAC, and I don't think it's any of my business what happens in response to GOCE's request page ... but I do think TFA coords have a role in making sure that anything happening in TFA-space is at least moving in the right direction. (That's all I ask, really, I'm not looking for perfection.) - Dank ( push to talk) 16:16, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Sarastro: Firstly can I say how honoured I feel to receive a direct communication from you, under any circumstances. Although on reflection I also feel a little like a tail ender facing Bob Willis. No, obviously it is not helpful for anyone to edit a FAC, or FAC-wanabe, the subject of which they don't have at least a reasonable grasp of. Ie at least know what they don't know. That is why copy editors hunt in packs: I would only exceptionally copy edit a FAC on a film, video, video game or any sort of music; but another copy editor may feel entirely at home with these. The editor in question is a vastly more experienced copy editor than me and I trusted them to exercise this judgement. (Cue old joke about "assume".) Hopefully it is an easily learned lesson for the future to only edit FACs where we are familiar with the topic, and if none of us are then "First, do no harm." The concept, I still feel, is sound; but we need to work the bugs out damn fast.
I started into the copy edit diff for Gilligan and stopped just after the infobox. Wince. I wish now that I had taken that one myself. I am not at all surprised that you were grumpy. I'm grumpy about what is happening to "my" today's TFA right now, but I expected most of the help not to be. You are entirely justified in being unhappy that this help didn't. I can't defend it, only apologise and say that we will try, hard, to learn from it. I feel highly motivated to; you can imagine my embarrassment that I have broken your ten-month slumber in your dusty box in order to tell me that I screwed up. I may never live this down. Sadly I know some experienced Wikipedians in RL; they certainly won't let me forget. Gog the Mild ( talk) 23:51, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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You are a Ray of Sunshine! | |
It says here "The Ray of Sunshine is bestowed on that person who, when you see their name at the top of your watchlist, you know that all is right with the world and that you can relax. May be awarded to any person who consistently brightens your day." So here you go. Gog the Mild ( talk) 21:29, 14 December 2019 (UTC) |
A very happy Christmas and New Year to you! |
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Io, Saturnalia! | |
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:23, 20 December 2019 (UTC) |
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Season's Greetings | |
May your Holidays and the Year that follows shine as much as this coin still does beneath the tarnish of bygone weather and long use. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:24, 20 December 2019 (UTC) |
Hello Dank: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, DBig Xrayᗙ Happy Holidays! 18:13, 24 December 2019 (UTC)