Please see the section below, Request for article, for discussion of article "EidosMedia". DSeeB ( talk) 07:54, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi DSeeB! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. |
I am an external consultant working for the IT company EidosMedia. The company have noted the absence of a WP page dedicated to their publishing technology and have asked me to request the creation of such a page.
There are several reasons why EidosMedia and its products might be of interest to WP users:
For comparison, here are some companies in the same sector which already have WP pages:
Below I have listed the basic characteristics of the company, together with a selection of secondary references that chart its activities from the foundation of the company to the present day.
DSeeB (
talk)
10:23, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
EidosMedia is a specialist developer of cross-media publishing solutions for organizations in the news, media and financial sectors. It was founded in 1999 and has its headquarters in Milan, Italy and subsidiaries in London, Paris, Frankfurt, New York and Sydney, Australia.
Products
EidosMedia's principal product is the Méthode editorial and publishing platform. Méthode is the world's first XML-based cross-media publishing system, allowing content to be published simultaneously through multiple publication channels, without manual adaptation or 'repurposing'.
Customers
Over the past decade Méthode has been adopted by leading news publishers in Europe, the USA, Africa and Asia-Pacific.
Current users include The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe and The New York Post in the USA, The Financial Times, The Times and the Sun in the UK, Le Figaro and Le Monde group in France, the WAZ media group and the NordWest Zeitung in Germany, The Australian Financial Review and the News Limited group in Australia.
Type | Private company |
Industry | Computer software & services |
Founded | Milan, Italy (1999) |
Employees | c. 250 |
Headquarters | Milan, Italy |
Area served | Worldwide |
Website | www.eidosmedia.com |
1. Of Content Management and the Evolution of Newspapers.
Seybold Bulletin, June 2002
2. EidosMedia building momentum in market.
News & Tech, Nov 2001
http://www.newsandtecharchives.com/issues/2001/11-01/ifra/11-01_eidos.htm
3. XML Offers New Flexibility To Publishers.
Editor & Publisher, March, 2002
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/Article/XML-Offers-New-Flexibility-To-Publishers
4. 'Financial Times' Selects Italy's EidosMedia.
Editor & Publisher, May, 2002
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/PrintArticle/-Financial-Times-Selects-Italy-s-EidosMedia
5. Edipresse chooses EidosMedia.
IFRA Magazine,February 2004
6. 'Washington Post' Selects EidosMedia for Merged Newsroom.
Editor & Publisher, June, 2009
http://editorandpublisher.com/PrintArticle/-Washington-Post-Selects-EidosMedia-for-Merged-Newsroom
7. News commits to $60 million editorial upgrade in Australia.
Gxpress, May 2012
http://www.gxpress.net/news-commits-to-60-million-editorial-upgrade-in-australia-cms-2030
I have received no reply from the reviewer to my last two posts to their talk page.
I am therefore re-submitting the article.
You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.
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RadioFan ( talk) 12:46, 20 July 2013 (UTC)Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited EidosMedia, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Tablets ( check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.
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While the EidosMedia page has been created, I would caution you against editing it further. As a contractor for the company, you have a conflict of interest. If you see areas in need of improvement, please recommend them on the article's talk page and another editor, without such conflict, will make them.-- RadioFan ( talk) 16:58, 21 July 2013 (UTC) I've made a couple of corrections to the syntax. This article is part of a larger context involving the evolution of news-publishing systems over the last two decades. There is currently no coverage in WP of this subject. As you correctly observe, I am not the right person to write such an article, but I could provide information and sources to anyone who may be interested in developing the subject. DSeeB ( talk) 08:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Removed link to Le Monde newspaper . EidosMedia products are currently only used for other products of the Le Monde group.
Removed reference to the BBC's Electronic News Production System. Comparison is extremely misleading - but this is not clear from the ENPS article. DSeeB ( talk) 13:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I am about to add two sections to this entry. These place the company's activities in the context of the crisis affecting newspaper publishers in developed markets over the last decade and the options available to ensure the survival and sustainability of news publishing operations. DSeeB ( talk) 12:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at EidosMedia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. De728631 ( talk) 19:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on
edit warring. Thank you. — Preceding
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Muckrkr (
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contribs)
09:55, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Do you have any affiliation with EidosMethode? If so, could you please disclose them here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muckrkr ( talk • contribs) 19:47, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
This article has been subject to repeated attacks by an unregistered user who has deleted most of the content and replaced it with poorly-supported material. I have now requested that it receive partial page protection. DSeeB ( talk) 19:53, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. However, you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.
Spike Wilbury (
talk)
14:28, 2 October 2014 (UTC)I have made no secret of my COI - I declared it when I first requested the creation of the article on June 13th 2013 (see above on this page). I intend to appeal this block but in the meantime the page has been reverted to the vandalized version which was created by anonymous user 209.6.206.4 on September 27th (who then registered as Muckrkr on Sept. 28th.)
A quick look at this version shows that it aims to damage the company which is the subject of the article and has been written with malicious intent. While all documented contributions are legitimate, I cannot see how the completeness and accuracy of Wikipedia is served by allowing this version of the article to stand. DSeeB ( talk) 16:23, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I would have been happy for the other user to include their point of view inthe article. Instead they deleted the whole content and replaced it with a few poorly supported negative points. How does that constitute 'improving' the article. Have you read the two versions? DSeeB ( talk) 19:57, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Good morning Spike Wilbury.
I notice that the EidosPedia article is still online in its malicious version (posted by a user who registered five days ago.) I can do nothing about this, but surely it is your duty as an administrator to prevent the malicious use of Wikipedia? DSeeB ( talk) 08:09, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
OK - thanks for your attention. DSeeB ( talk) 09:41, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
DSeeB ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Creation of the EidosMedia page On June 13th last year I submitted a request for an article to be created about the the software company EidosMedia. I declared my conflict of interest at this time (I worked as an external consultant for the company) and provided evidence for the noteworthiness of the company and its activities. On July 15th I submitted a draft for the article that was accepted and published on July 20th.
The edit war
Last week on September 27th , an anonymous user (209.6.206.4) deleted most of the content of the page , replacing it with damaging statements about the company. Judging this to be vandalism, I restored the article.
The following day the anonymous user (who in the meantime had registered with the name Muckrkr) undid my edit. An ‘edit war’ ensued and at 19.53 I requested that the page be protected. Shortly afterwards the page was partially protected by administrator CambridgeBayWeather.
The page has been protected but now displays the version created by Muckrkr.
Moving forward
In its current version the article is a very long way from presenting a balanced, neutral picture of its subject and I do not believe that the interests of Wikipedia users are served by this.
I realize now that engaging in an edit war was not the correct way to deal with the situation.
If this block is lifted I will not engage in such editing again - but I will use the article’s talk page to suggest ways in which the article may be restored to a balanced source of information for WP users.
Decline reason:
Given that your description of the current version of the page as 'vandalism', I don't think you should be editing. PhilKnight ( talk) 07:55, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
DSeeB ( talk) 10:53, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi DSeeB. Can you tell me if you know the Wikipedia editor Jeff Hawke ( talk · contribs), and whether you contacted this person to edit on your behalf? I find it strange that an account which has not been active for 7 years suddenly logged in to restore EidosMedia to your preferred version. Please review Wikipedia:Sock puppetry carefully; it is against policy to ask another editor to edit on your behalf while you are blocked. -- Spike Wilbury ( talk) 12:15, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Good morning.
No, I'm afraid I don't know Jeff Hawke. I was surprised by his intervention, but I agree with most of what he says. DSeeB ( talk) 08:42, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Good afternoon. As you may have noticed, the EidosMedia page has been changed again.
Perhaps it's time for you to start asking user Muckrkr what exactly is his/her interest in posting these negative points. I declared my interest before I started editing two years ago and I think in fairness we should all be open about our relationship with the company and/or its competitors. DSeeB ( talk) 12:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Good afternoon.
At the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard user Muckrkr says: “ I do not have any relationship with either EidosMedia or any of its competitors, except as a user.” (my emphasis).
This isn't very clear, but if it's true, it means he’s using an EidosMedia product within a large organization (these systems are not bought by individuals).
If he’s not happy with the performance of the system, then surely he should take it up with his employers?
I don’t think a Wikipedia article is the right place for an employee to take issue with their company’s choice of software. DSeeB ( talk) 12:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Please see the section below, Request for article, for discussion of article "EidosMedia". DSeeB ( talk) 07:54, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
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Hi DSeeB! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. |
I am an external consultant working for the IT company EidosMedia. The company have noted the absence of a WP page dedicated to their publishing technology and have asked me to request the creation of such a page.
There are several reasons why EidosMedia and its products might be of interest to WP users:
For comparison, here are some companies in the same sector which already have WP pages:
Below I have listed the basic characteristics of the company, together with a selection of secondary references that chart its activities from the foundation of the company to the present day.
DSeeB (
talk)
10:23, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
EidosMedia is a specialist developer of cross-media publishing solutions for organizations in the news, media and financial sectors. It was founded in 1999 and has its headquarters in Milan, Italy and subsidiaries in London, Paris, Frankfurt, New York and Sydney, Australia.
Products
EidosMedia's principal product is the Méthode editorial and publishing platform. Méthode is the world's first XML-based cross-media publishing system, allowing content to be published simultaneously through multiple publication channels, without manual adaptation or 'repurposing'.
Customers
Over the past decade Méthode has been adopted by leading news publishers in Europe, the USA, Africa and Asia-Pacific.
Current users include The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe and The New York Post in the USA, The Financial Times, The Times and the Sun in the UK, Le Figaro and Le Monde group in France, the WAZ media group and the NordWest Zeitung in Germany, The Australian Financial Review and the News Limited group in Australia.
Type | Private company |
Industry | Computer software & services |
Founded | Milan, Italy (1999) |
Employees | c. 250 |
Headquarters | Milan, Italy |
Area served | Worldwide |
Website | www.eidosmedia.com |
1. Of Content Management and the Evolution of Newspapers.
Seybold Bulletin, June 2002
2. EidosMedia building momentum in market.
News & Tech, Nov 2001
http://www.newsandtecharchives.com/issues/2001/11-01/ifra/11-01_eidos.htm
3. XML Offers New Flexibility To Publishers.
Editor & Publisher, March, 2002
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/Article/XML-Offers-New-Flexibility-To-Publishers
4. 'Financial Times' Selects Italy's EidosMedia.
Editor & Publisher, May, 2002
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/PrintArticle/-Financial-Times-Selects-Italy-s-EidosMedia
5. Edipresse chooses EidosMedia.
IFRA Magazine,February 2004
6. 'Washington Post' Selects EidosMedia for Merged Newsroom.
Editor & Publisher, June, 2009
http://editorandpublisher.com/PrintArticle/-Washington-Post-Selects-EidosMedia-for-Merged-Newsroom
7. News commits to $60 million editorial upgrade in Australia.
Gxpress, May 2012
http://www.gxpress.net/news-commits-to-60-million-editorial-upgrade-in-australia-cms-2030
I have received no reply from the reviewer to my last two posts to their talk page.
I am therefore re-submitting the article.
You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.
Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!
RadioFan ( talk) 12:46, 20 July 2013 (UTC)Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited EidosMedia, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Tablets ( check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.
It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot ( talk) 10:57, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
While the EidosMedia page has been created, I would caution you against editing it further. As a contractor for the company, you have a conflict of interest. If you see areas in need of improvement, please recommend them on the article's talk page and another editor, without such conflict, will make them.-- RadioFan ( talk) 16:58, 21 July 2013 (UTC) I've made a couple of corrections to the syntax. This article is part of a larger context involving the evolution of news-publishing systems over the last two decades. There is currently no coverage in WP of this subject. As you correctly observe, I am not the right person to write such an article, but I could provide information and sources to anyone who may be interested in developing the subject. DSeeB ( talk) 08:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
Removed link to Le Monde newspaper . EidosMedia products are currently only used for other products of the Le Monde group.
Removed reference to the BBC's Electronic News Production System. Comparison is extremely misleading - but this is not clear from the ENPS article. DSeeB ( talk) 13:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I am about to add two sections to this entry. These place the company's activities in the context of the crisis affecting newspaper publishers in developed markets over the last decade and the options available to ensure the survival and sustainability of news publishing operations. DSeeB ( talk) 12:45, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at EidosMedia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. De728631 ( talk) 19:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on
edit warring. Thank you. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Muckrkr (
talk •
contribs)
09:55, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Do you have any affiliation with EidosMethode? If so, could you please disclose them here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muckrkr ( talk • contribs) 19:47, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
This article has been subject to repeated attacks by an unregistered user who has deleted most of the content and replaced it with poorly-supported material. I have now requested that it receive partial page protection. DSeeB ( talk) 19:53, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. However, you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.
Spike Wilbury (
talk)
14:28, 2 October 2014 (UTC)I have made no secret of my COI - I declared it when I first requested the creation of the article on June 13th 2013 (see above on this page). I intend to appeal this block but in the meantime the page has been reverted to the vandalized version which was created by anonymous user 209.6.206.4 on September 27th (who then registered as Muckrkr on Sept. 28th.)
A quick look at this version shows that it aims to damage the company which is the subject of the article and has been written with malicious intent. While all documented contributions are legitimate, I cannot see how the completeness and accuracy of Wikipedia is served by allowing this version of the article to stand. DSeeB ( talk) 16:23, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I would have been happy for the other user to include their point of view inthe article. Instead they deleted the whole content and replaced it with a few poorly supported negative points. How does that constitute 'improving' the article. Have you read the two versions? DSeeB ( talk) 19:57, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Good morning Spike Wilbury.
I notice that the EidosPedia article is still online in its malicious version (posted by a user who registered five days ago.) I can do nothing about this, but surely it is your duty as an administrator to prevent the malicious use of Wikipedia? DSeeB ( talk) 08:09, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
OK - thanks for your attention. DSeeB ( talk) 09:41, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
DSeeB ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Creation of the EidosMedia page On June 13th last year I submitted a request for an article to be created about the the software company EidosMedia. I declared my conflict of interest at this time (I worked as an external consultant for the company) and provided evidence for the noteworthiness of the company and its activities. On July 15th I submitted a draft for the article that was accepted and published on July 20th.
The edit war
Last week on September 27th , an anonymous user (209.6.206.4) deleted most of the content of the page , replacing it with damaging statements about the company. Judging this to be vandalism, I restored the article.
The following day the anonymous user (who in the meantime had registered with the name Muckrkr) undid my edit. An ‘edit war’ ensued and at 19.53 I requested that the page be protected. Shortly afterwards the page was partially protected by administrator CambridgeBayWeather.
The page has been protected but now displays the version created by Muckrkr.
Moving forward
In its current version the article is a very long way from presenting a balanced, neutral picture of its subject and I do not believe that the interests of Wikipedia users are served by this.
I realize now that engaging in an edit war was not the correct way to deal with the situation.
If this block is lifted I will not engage in such editing again - but I will use the article’s talk page to suggest ways in which the article may be restored to a balanced source of information for WP users.
Decline reason:
Given that your description of the current version of the page as 'vandalism', I don't think you should be editing. PhilKnight ( talk) 07:55, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
DSeeB ( talk) 10:53, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi DSeeB. Can you tell me if you know the Wikipedia editor Jeff Hawke ( talk · contribs), and whether you contacted this person to edit on your behalf? I find it strange that an account which has not been active for 7 years suddenly logged in to restore EidosMedia to your preferred version. Please review Wikipedia:Sock puppetry carefully; it is against policy to ask another editor to edit on your behalf while you are blocked. -- Spike Wilbury ( talk) 12:15, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Good morning.
No, I'm afraid I don't know Jeff Hawke. I was surprised by his intervention, but I agree with most of what he says. DSeeB ( talk) 08:42, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Good afternoon. As you may have noticed, the EidosMedia page has been changed again.
Perhaps it's time for you to start asking user Muckrkr what exactly is his/her interest in posting these negative points. I declared my interest before I started editing two years ago and I think in fairness we should all be open about our relationship with the company and/or its competitors. DSeeB ( talk) 12:35, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Good afternoon.
At the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard user Muckrkr says: “ I do not have any relationship with either EidosMedia or any of its competitors, except as a user.” (my emphasis).
This isn't very clear, but if it's true, it means he’s using an EidosMedia product within a large organization (these systems are not bought by individuals).
If he’s not happy with the performance of the system, then surely he should take it up with his employers?
I don’t think a Wikipedia article is the right place for an employee to take issue with their company’s choice of software. DSeeB ( talk) 12:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)