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(Initial discussion)
Roy, thanks for the message on my talk page, though I wish it had been more concise. I'm afraid I don't think your proposal is workable, it certainly isn't current policy and it would turn Wikipedia into nothing more than a blog. Whether you like it or not, WP:NPOV is a core policy of Wikipedia. WP:COI is taken directly from the need to strive for neutrality. Neutrality can only be achieved by having disinterested editors summarizing secondary sources. It could never be achieved by those with a severe personal interest in a subject editing articles on that subject. If you want to write articles that are a collection of polemics, there are plenty of free web hosts available for you; Wikipedia is not that place.
The only way your proposal could work would be for ever editors to be required to disclose their personal details so their contributions could be judged. This is the Citizendium Project where articles are written and controlled by subject experts whose identities are verified and where their is no neutral point of view policy. I believe you might be more comfortable at that project rather than Wikipedia. Gwernol 15:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Roy, you have a link on your user page to AffiliatePrograms.com. Another editor, perhaps the site owner, has been spamming that and some other links to the point that I've nominated this domain for the spam blacklist. That means the MediaWiki software will not let you save any changes to a page if it's got that link on a page. It's your user subpage and you are not a spammer, so you are welcome to keep the link if you want, but you will need to delete or disable the link before making other changes to your page. (To disable the link, just strip the http:// off the front of the link).
For more info on the actual blacklisting, you can find the blacklist request at m:Talk:Spam blacklist#FindMySpecialist, Inc. spam on Wikipedia.
Thanks, -- A. B. (talk) 21:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:Paso amiga ice cream ascii.gif. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. — Remember the dot ( talk) 18:09, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated SEO for Featured Article status, which can also get it to run on the home page of Wikipedia. We need to standardize all 24 references using {{ cite web}}. Maybe I can do the first 12 and you can do the last 12, and we'll get the job done quickly. Jehochman ( talk/ contrib) 16:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
{{cite web | author=Doe, John | title=My Favorite Things Part II | publisher=Open Publishing | date=[[2005-04-30]] | work=Encyclopedia of Things | url=http://www.example.org/ | accessdate=2005-07-06 }}
→ Doe, John (2005-04-30).
My Favorite Things Part II. Encyclopedia of Things. Open Publishing. Retrieved on
2005-07-06.--
roy<sac>
Talk! .oOo.
23:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that you removed the {{ ShouldBeSVG}} tag from Image:Paso amiga ice cream ascii.png, stating "shouldbeSVG template removed. how should that be done? There does not exist a converter for PNG to SVG to my knowledge". In short, the way ASCII art, such as this image, should be converted to SVG is by typing it out as plain text, pasting the text into Inkscape, and having Inkscape flatten the text into a path. Raster images other than ASCII art can sometimes be converted to SVG through skillful use of Inkscape's "trace bitmap" option. I think there are a number of editors who use Inkscape and are capable of doing this kind of conversion. — Remember the dot ( talk) 17:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey roy... apparently someone on wikipedia is accusing you of writing a good article, they're crying Conflict of Interest! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Superior_Art_Creations ... thought you'd want to get in on the AFD. ALKIVAR ™ ☢ 22:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Some of your images or media files have been listed for deletion. Please see Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion if you are interested in preserving them.
Thank you.
This appears to be marketing the book and website rather than really contributing anything encyclopedic to the article. Comments welcome. ∴ here… ♠ 19:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC) ∴ here… ♠ 19:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated search engine optimization for featured article status. Could you possibly look at the references on the article and then leave your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Search engine optimization as to whether you think the blogs and forums cited as references qualify as reliable sources. In order to achieve featured article status we need community consensus that the references are reliable. If you know any other Wikipedians who have expertise in this area, we welcome their comments. Thank you! Jehochman ☎ / ✔ 17:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:Xing openbc logo.gif. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Aksibot 03:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Cumbrowski, I think that your cleanup of PrimeQ violates the Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest and no original research rule, because the primary source of information is from the company, not from reliable third party interests. This act compromises the integrity of Wikipedia as a whole. -- Simonay 07:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Deletion review is not a place to try and rerun the deletion debate, hence the close. It's interest is if the process of deletion was followed correctly, as you raise no suggestion it wasn't (you merely disagree with the outcome) there is nothing to review. I also suggest you use preview rather than save when entering longer comments. As it stands you signing of your initial comment makes it look like you've done. -- pgk 21:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
The edit summary is not a place to debate. I addressed your vague statements in detail at the place where such things are supposed to be discussed...
The tags identified several problems. Your response was to attempt to rationalize them without actually dealing with them. Try actually dealing with instead of concocting excuses why you don't have to. Or would you prefer discussing this at WP:AFD?
As for the "3RR" insinuation -- well, it is to laugh. -- Calton | Talk 23:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Roy, As a penance for voting to keep the MobyGames templates I suggest you agree to clean up say 10% (that would be 650) of the spammy links inserted by the site's owners users the template. Then when we have got rid of them we can leave the template in peace. -- BozMo talk 06:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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(Initial discussion)
Roy, thanks for the message on my talk page, though I wish it had been more concise. I'm afraid I don't think your proposal is workable, it certainly isn't current policy and it would turn Wikipedia into nothing more than a blog. Whether you like it or not, WP:NPOV is a core policy of Wikipedia. WP:COI is taken directly from the need to strive for neutrality. Neutrality can only be achieved by having disinterested editors summarizing secondary sources. It could never be achieved by those with a severe personal interest in a subject editing articles on that subject. If you want to write articles that are a collection of polemics, there are plenty of free web hosts available for you; Wikipedia is not that place.
The only way your proposal could work would be for ever editors to be required to disclose their personal details so their contributions could be judged. This is the Citizendium Project where articles are written and controlled by subject experts whose identities are verified and where their is no neutral point of view policy. I believe you might be more comfortable at that project rather than Wikipedia. Gwernol 15:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Roy, you have a link on your user page to AffiliatePrograms.com. Another editor, perhaps the site owner, has been spamming that and some other links to the point that I've nominated this domain for the spam blacklist. That means the MediaWiki software will not let you save any changes to a page if it's got that link on a page. It's your user subpage and you are not a spammer, so you are welcome to keep the link if you want, but you will need to delete or disable the link before making other changes to your page. (To disable the link, just strip the http:// off the front of the link).
For more info on the actual blacklisting, you can find the blacklist request at m:Talk:Spam blacklist#FindMySpecialist, Inc. spam on Wikipedia.
Thanks, -- A. B. (talk) 21:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:Paso amiga ice cream ascii.gif. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. — Remember the dot ( talk) 18:09, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated SEO for Featured Article status, which can also get it to run on the home page of Wikipedia. We need to standardize all 24 references using {{ cite web}}. Maybe I can do the first 12 and you can do the last 12, and we'll get the job done quickly. Jehochman ( talk/ contrib) 16:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
{{cite web | author=Doe, John | title=My Favorite Things Part II | publisher=Open Publishing | date=[[2005-04-30]] | work=Encyclopedia of Things | url=http://www.example.org/ | accessdate=2005-07-06 }}
→ Doe, John (2005-04-30).
My Favorite Things Part II. Encyclopedia of Things. Open Publishing. Retrieved on
2005-07-06.--
roy<sac>
Talk! .oOo.
23:23, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that you removed the {{ ShouldBeSVG}} tag from Image:Paso amiga ice cream ascii.png, stating "shouldbeSVG template removed. how should that be done? There does not exist a converter for PNG to SVG to my knowledge". In short, the way ASCII art, such as this image, should be converted to SVG is by typing it out as plain text, pasting the text into Inkscape, and having Inkscape flatten the text into a path. Raster images other than ASCII art can sometimes be converted to SVG through skillful use of Inkscape's "trace bitmap" option. I think there are a number of editors who use Inkscape and are capable of doing this kind of conversion. — Remember the dot ( talk) 17:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey roy... apparently someone on wikipedia is accusing you of writing a good article, they're crying Conflict of Interest! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Superior_Art_Creations ... thought you'd want to get in on the AFD. ALKIVAR ™ ☢ 22:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Some of your images or media files have been listed for deletion. Please see Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion if you are interested in preserving them.
Thank you.
This appears to be marketing the book and website rather than really contributing anything encyclopedic to the article. Comments welcome. ∴ here… ♠ 19:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC) ∴ here… ♠ 19:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated search engine optimization for featured article status. Could you possibly look at the references on the article and then leave your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Search engine optimization as to whether you think the blogs and forums cited as references qualify as reliable sources. In order to achieve featured article status we need community consensus that the references are reliable. If you know any other Wikipedians who have expertise in this area, we welcome their comments. Thank you! Jehochman ☎ / ✔ 17:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:Xing openbc logo.gif. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Aksibot 03:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Cumbrowski, I think that your cleanup of PrimeQ violates the Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest and no original research rule, because the primary source of information is from the company, not from reliable third party interests. This act compromises the integrity of Wikipedia as a whole. -- Simonay 07:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Deletion review is not a place to try and rerun the deletion debate, hence the close. It's interest is if the process of deletion was followed correctly, as you raise no suggestion it wasn't (you merely disagree with the outcome) there is nothing to review. I also suggest you use preview rather than save when entering longer comments. As it stands you signing of your initial comment makes it look like you've done. -- pgk 21:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
The edit summary is not a place to debate. I addressed your vague statements in detail at the place where such things are supposed to be discussed...
The tags identified several problems. Your response was to attempt to rationalize them without actually dealing with them. Try actually dealing with instead of concocting excuses why you don't have to. Or would you prefer discussing this at WP:AFD?
As for the "3RR" insinuation -- well, it is to laugh. -- Calton | Talk 23:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Roy, As a penance for voting to keep the MobyGames templates I suggest you agree to clean up say 10% (that would be 650) of the spammy links inserted by the site's owners users the template. Then when we have got rid of them we can leave the template in peace. -- BozMo talk 06:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)