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If the Wikipedia Engine would be modified to add to every External Link the "rel=nofollow" attribute which tells the Google Spider to Ignore the Link as a "vote" for the Target Site and thus not has any impact on the Page rank of the Site whatsoever. The whole benefit Link Spamers seek and try to gain by adding useless external links to articles would be gone.
If it will be done and publicized, the Value of External Links for SEO purposes at Wikipedia will be almost reduced to nothing. And if it’s of no value for the spammer, he won't do it anymore.
How are recommendations made in Wikipedia to recommend a change to the Wiki Engine? I am a Newbie who tries to help but don't know how everything works here yet (I am learning though). -- Roy-SAC 09:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Additional Ideas and comments:
Comments copy/backup from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam
User:Cumbrowski 2 Solutions for Link Spam Problem. Open Discussion. I have an Idea how to reduce link spam significantly if not almost completely. I am pretty new at Wikipedia and don't know any better place to go to make this recommendation so please forgive me, if it is the wrong one. I started a section in my user discussion page with ideas on how to improve Wikipedia and solve or reduce existing problems. One Idea is about an effective way to fight link spam.
... (url to this page)`
This idea is open for discussion. Any comment is appreciated. -- Roy-SAC 09:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
... it follows the post from above
After all the back and forth, adding, removing, adding, changing, removing of external links (but also doubleing the content of the article itself) it seems to be the perfect candidate for the public testing and demonstration of de-linked external links in the public article itself. -- Roy-SAC 04:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Have a look for yourself at Affiliate marketing
I followed Barry's suggestion and moved the Pilot here that you can see for yourself. De-Linked External Links Test The proposed Idea is attempted to reduce the temptation for Webmasters to place external links at Wikipedia for SEO purposes. I prefer the Idea of the minor code change and add the " No Follow" Tag to External Links better than the de-linking.
Today are a lot very usefull and good and required external links removed from articles by editors and admins that have no clue about the topic the article is about to make an educated decicion if the linked to site is a) related , b) important (in context) and c) supplement the Wikipedia Article.
A very good example is the Affiliate marketing Article. It's Linking now to the "Yellow Pages" of Affiliate Marketing. But good for me, I have a site listed in one of the subcategories (very old one with 301 redirect to new one). This category at DMOZ is hopelessly outdated. Shawn Collings (AfiliateTip.com, AffiliateSummit.com, Affilipedia.com) has no time to clean it up).
Links to Affilipedia.com, ABestWeb.com and ReturnOnAffiliate.com were removed in favor of this DMOZ Category Link. I wrote extensively about the Sites in the Discussion Page of Talk:Affiliate_marketing . At least did Rhobite and me improve the content a little which I plan to continue when I find the time (busy with in discussion pages right now Talk:Online_marketing) -- Roy-SAC 19:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
The poor content of Wikipedia about Internet Marketing and especially Affiliate Marketing let to the creation of it's own Wiki Affilipedia.com The Affiliate Marketing Wiki. It's operated by Shawn Collins from Affiliate Tip. He should be contacted, if he is willing to merge his Wiki's content into Wikipedia. It's using the same software which makes it easier to merge the two. Just an idea, but who knows, probably worth a try, right?. -- Roy-SAC 08:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't assume that's why he made a spin-off wiki. Shawn's a clever guy and has affiliate links throughout his wiki. Can't blame him - that's the nature of the game. There are several other spin-off wiki's which have commercial value to the owners. I think we can add to the content here just as well and it's getting better all the time.
Peterkoning
05:38, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
References must be cleaned up anyway. Affiliate links should be removed from the articles during cleanup and integration of course. Some work, but less work than writing up the content from scratch. And to be honest, "you" treat most knowledgeable people that are knowledgeable about internet marketing not very well when they start editing articles (beyond adding external links). A marketer will always be a marketer and its nature if he is very good at it. Articles written by marketing people will read different than dry history or political ones. I think a compromise should be made. As it stands today are most people that could and would contribute to Wikipedia about this topic too scared to do anything because they are looked down on and marked without doing anything as self promoting and profit hungry monsters (which fits the description of some though). The result of this are well written articles (linguistically) but week in content, because the person writing it does not know too much about it because he was never part of it and also lags current information because he is not interested in this topic too much either. Asking Shawn if he is willing to hand over the content and kick it around in the sanbox for a bit if he does to clean it up does not hurt anybody. I am no expert, but I believe is Wiki Content is not public domain. Could well written articles at Affilipedia be ported to Wikipedia or would it violate copyrights. I noticed the reference to the authors of the Article in some pages. Does that mean that they did not give up their copyright? I will find that out by simply asking him. What is the best way to get new articles added here at Wikipedia where a decent to very good article exists at Affilipedia? Questions, Questions, Questions. --
Roy-SAC
09:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Roy-SAC, your 'delink test' should not be placed on the article page. This type of thing belong in discussion pages. Please move it there. Barrylb 10:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Good Point. Here it is. Thanks. -- Roy-SAC 19:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
The external links in this article were de-linked on purpose. Please do not add a non-de-linked external URL to this Article.
ABestWeb.com - Affiliate Marketing Forum URL -> http://www.abestweb.com/ Affilipedia - Affiliate Marketing Wiki URL -> http://www.affilipedia.com AssociatePrograms.com - Affiliate forum URL -> http://www.associateprograms.com/discus/index.php Return On Affiliate Community - The Affiliate Marketing Meeting Space (Free Online Community which is open to anybody) URL -> http://www.returnonaffiliate.com/ Revenue Magazine - The Performance Marketing Standard Magazine URL -> http://www.revenuetoday.com/ RevenueSource.com - Forums for industry news, program press releases, and affiliate program announcements URL -> http://www.revenuesource.com/
Thank you for removing the external links in
Affiliate marketing. I have been fighting this one solo for two weeks now.
Monkeyman(
talk)
14:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
♠:::If you noticed my other message in the Spam Project Page and Talk:Online_marketing you noticed that I want to help to a) Improve the content about Internet Marketing b) (most importantly) help you with reducing link spam. Anything idea which is reducing spam by only 1% or more should be jumped on. Any Idea reducing it by a 2 digit percentage should be hailed. I think the "no follow" tag will have the affect. Reduced spaming will hopefully also have the affect that honestly added links that have the purpose intended by Wikipedia and the reason why external links are possible and needed in the first place: to Increase the Value of the article and are a benefit for the user that reads it and NOT the author
Er... what exactly about my contribution to the external links constitutes "proof" that I have very "limited" expertise in the subject? It doesn't really matter anyway because I edit lots of different articles without being an "expert" in the field, as do (probably) most wikipedia contributors. I do not have to be an expert to recognize unsuitable links. We have had a few people agree that a directory link is a good idea. What will it take for you to be convinced that this is how it should be? Barrylb 07:56, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
The only sites that do not support the affiliate marketing business but are related to affiliate marketing (business) are "I hate affiliate marketing business sites". Not a useful alternative. -- Roy-SAC 15:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
External Links for entry Blog
http://www.consumermatch.com/blog/2006/02/blog-atom-rss-xml-and.html Anchor: Blog, Atom, RSS, XML and Syndication/Aggregation ! ? Blogs, ATOM, RSS explained (Essay)
Copy from Anonymous User Talk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:71.195.125.110
2/19/2006 2:50 PST
Hi Carsten (71.195.125.110). We would love to have you as an editor with Wikipedia but we unfortunately cannot accept commercial and advertiser's links. Wikipedia articles are under constant barrage from advertisers and it's nearly impossible to keep the articles clean. Please consider using your expertise to improve the content of the article, we are sorely in need of specialists like yourself. Thanks!
Monkeyman
21:34, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Please elaborate "commercial links", because I don't get it. The trigger of the Article was certainly the Syndication of RSS Feeds and the creation of our Weblog. If one of our partners can't make sense out of this new Technology then there must be a lot of our Visitors that have the same problem. The Article is not about maximizing sales at all? Not even as "hidden" message. (English is my second language but I did not know that it's that bad. I should have written it in german I guess). It's about Blogs and RSS and how they work and what to do with them. My Partner still visits dozens of News Websites directly because he does not know about RSS and Feed Aggregation etc. This Article is meant to be an eye opener and refers to things normal people (non-Geeks) can relate to. Should I add the Post to my Private Weblog which is not related to the whole thing at all and add that link to Wikipedia? http://www.roysac.com/blog/ Oops, I link to a Commercial Site and also have an Adsense Ad on the Page. Should I do what Shopping.com, Priceline.com, Froogle or ShopWIki, Nextag and PriceGrabber did and add a whole new Article about ConsumerMatch.com to Wikipeda and point out there that we have a blog that also contains Useful Post to non-Shopping related things like explanations of new Technologies and buzzwords that seem spanish to joe everybody's? Let me know. Thanks Cumbrowski Carsten
Discussion Page of Article Blog. Please express your opinion about the Article and provide comments.
Please Include the Vote for it: Yes, Add it to the Article or No, Don't add.
Thanks -- Roy-SAC 02:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
The copy was made on 2/25/2006 10:30 am PST.
The reason for the copy is the probably move of the discussion to the Arcive since no more comments were made within almost a week.-- Roy-SAC 18:34, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello Everybody
I published today on our Websites Blog an Article that attempts to explain Blogs, RSS, XML, ATOM to normal people that are not very tech-savvy. It tries to point out the difference to older but similar technologies and what the benefits for the average internet users are if he starts using those new technologies without fearing it. The Article became pretty long and comprehensive that I though that it would be a valuable addition to the "Blog" and "RSS" Post here at Wikipedia.
I added the Link to the External Link Section in the Blog Article and "History and Context" Block in the RSS Article. Shortly after I added it was it removed by User:rodii and User:Monkeyman. Reason: SPAM
I assumed that they did not check the Article at all and just focused on the Domain (which is a Commercial Website), but they assured me that they also think that the Article is not worth to refer people to which try to find out about Blogs and RSS. rodii recommended to post the Link to the Article here and have other you, the community take a look at it and provide comments.
Do you think it's a good article and should be added? Do you think it's not? Why? What exactly do you not like? Something in the Article is Wrong? Incomplete? too Detailed? too Confusion?
Your Feedback is appreciated.
Here is the Article.
Blog, Atom, RSS, XML and Syndication/Aggregation ! ?
Blogs, Blogging, XML, ATOM, RSS explained in simple Words. Written for the regular people using the Internet and not for tech-savvy Geeks.
Article by Carsten Cumbrowski
http://www.consumermatch.com/blog/2006/02/blog-atom-rss-xml-and.html
-- Roy-SAC 02:09, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I made major Additions to the Article. Feel free to discuss it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate_marketing#Massive_Content_Extension -- Roy-SAC 05:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Affiliate Networks are currently a paragraph of the Article for "Affiliate". Recommend own Article. See Details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate#Make_Affiliate_Networks_its_own_Article -- Roy-SAC 05:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Comment to Proposal to merger Internet Marketing into Online Marketing (should be the other way around) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Online_marketing
Added to the above comment also recommendations for the general Category Internet advertising and promotion which is a mess today. -- Roy-SAC 07:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Roy, I'm not going to debate external link policy here with you. The place for that is at Wikipedia:External links. -- Barrylb 14:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Staceylouise1987 10:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Welcome! (We can't say that loudly enough!)
Hello, Cumbrowski, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:
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If the Wikipedia Engine would be modified to add to every External Link the "rel=nofollow" attribute which tells the Google Spider to Ignore the Link as a "vote" for the Target Site and thus not has any impact on the Page rank of the Site whatsoever. The whole benefit Link Spamers seek and try to gain by adding useless external links to articles would be gone.
If it will be done and publicized, the Value of External Links for SEO purposes at Wikipedia will be almost reduced to nothing. And if it’s of no value for the spammer, he won't do it anymore.
How are recommendations made in Wikipedia to recommend a change to the Wiki Engine? I am a Newbie who tries to help but don't know how everything works here yet (I am learning though). -- Roy-SAC 09:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Additional Ideas and comments:
Comments copy/backup from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam
User:Cumbrowski 2 Solutions for Link Spam Problem. Open Discussion. I have an Idea how to reduce link spam significantly if not almost completely. I am pretty new at Wikipedia and don't know any better place to go to make this recommendation so please forgive me, if it is the wrong one. I started a section in my user discussion page with ideas on how to improve Wikipedia and solve or reduce existing problems. One Idea is about an effective way to fight link spam.
... (url to this page)`
This idea is open for discussion. Any comment is appreciated. -- Roy-SAC 09:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
... it follows the post from above
After all the back and forth, adding, removing, adding, changing, removing of external links (but also doubleing the content of the article itself) it seems to be the perfect candidate for the public testing and demonstration of de-linked external links in the public article itself. -- Roy-SAC 04:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Have a look for yourself at Affiliate marketing
I followed Barry's suggestion and moved the Pilot here that you can see for yourself. De-Linked External Links Test The proposed Idea is attempted to reduce the temptation for Webmasters to place external links at Wikipedia for SEO purposes. I prefer the Idea of the minor code change and add the " No Follow" Tag to External Links better than the de-linking.
Today are a lot very usefull and good and required external links removed from articles by editors and admins that have no clue about the topic the article is about to make an educated decicion if the linked to site is a) related , b) important (in context) and c) supplement the Wikipedia Article.
A very good example is the Affiliate marketing Article. It's Linking now to the "Yellow Pages" of Affiliate Marketing. But good for me, I have a site listed in one of the subcategories (very old one with 301 redirect to new one). This category at DMOZ is hopelessly outdated. Shawn Collings (AfiliateTip.com, AffiliateSummit.com, Affilipedia.com) has no time to clean it up).
Links to Affilipedia.com, ABestWeb.com and ReturnOnAffiliate.com were removed in favor of this DMOZ Category Link. I wrote extensively about the Sites in the Discussion Page of Talk:Affiliate_marketing . At least did Rhobite and me improve the content a little which I plan to continue when I find the time (busy with in discussion pages right now Talk:Online_marketing) -- Roy-SAC 19:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
The poor content of Wikipedia about Internet Marketing and especially Affiliate Marketing let to the creation of it's own Wiki Affilipedia.com The Affiliate Marketing Wiki. It's operated by Shawn Collins from Affiliate Tip. He should be contacted, if he is willing to merge his Wiki's content into Wikipedia. It's using the same software which makes it easier to merge the two. Just an idea, but who knows, probably worth a try, right?. -- Roy-SAC 08:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't assume that's why he made a spin-off wiki. Shawn's a clever guy and has affiliate links throughout his wiki. Can't blame him - that's the nature of the game. There are several other spin-off wiki's which have commercial value to the owners. I think we can add to the content here just as well and it's getting better all the time.
Peterkoning
05:38, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
References must be cleaned up anyway. Affiliate links should be removed from the articles during cleanup and integration of course. Some work, but less work than writing up the content from scratch. And to be honest, "you" treat most knowledgeable people that are knowledgeable about internet marketing not very well when they start editing articles (beyond adding external links). A marketer will always be a marketer and its nature if he is very good at it. Articles written by marketing people will read different than dry history or political ones. I think a compromise should be made. As it stands today are most people that could and would contribute to Wikipedia about this topic too scared to do anything because they are looked down on and marked without doing anything as self promoting and profit hungry monsters (which fits the description of some though). The result of this are well written articles (linguistically) but week in content, because the person writing it does not know too much about it because he was never part of it and also lags current information because he is not interested in this topic too much either. Asking Shawn if he is willing to hand over the content and kick it around in the sanbox for a bit if he does to clean it up does not hurt anybody. I am no expert, but I believe is Wiki Content is not public domain. Could well written articles at Affilipedia be ported to Wikipedia or would it violate copyrights. I noticed the reference to the authors of the Article in some pages. Does that mean that they did not give up their copyright? I will find that out by simply asking him. What is the best way to get new articles added here at Wikipedia where a decent to very good article exists at Affilipedia? Questions, Questions, Questions. --
Roy-SAC
09:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Roy-SAC, your 'delink test' should not be placed on the article page. This type of thing belong in discussion pages. Please move it there. Barrylb 10:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Good Point. Here it is. Thanks. -- Roy-SAC 19:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
The external links in this article were de-linked on purpose. Please do not add a non-de-linked external URL to this Article.
ABestWeb.com - Affiliate Marketing Forum URL -> http://www.abestweb.com/ Affilipedia - Affiliate Marketing Wiki URL -> http://www.affilipedia.com AssociatePrograms.com - Affiliate forum URL -> http://www.associateprograms.com/discus/index.php Return On Affiliate Community - The Affiliate Marketing Meeting Space (Free Online Community which is open to anybody) URL -> http://www.returnonaffiliate.com/ Revenue Magazine - The Performance Marketing Standard Magazine URL -> http://www.revenuetoday.com/ RevenueSource.com - Forums for industry news, program press releases, and affiliate program announcements URL -> http://www.revenuesource.com/
Thank you for removing the external links in
Affiliate marketing. I have been fighting this one solo for two weeks now.
Monkeyman(
talk)
14:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
♠:::If you noticed my other message in the Spam Project Page and Talk:Online_marketing you noticed that I want to help to a) Improve the content about Internet Marketing b) (most importantly) help you with reducing link spam. Anything idea which is reducing spam by only 1% or more should be jumped on. Any Idea reducing it by a 2 digit percentage should be hailed. I think the "no follow" tag will have the affect. Reduced spaming will hopefully also have the affect that honestly added links that have the purpose intended by Wikipedia and the reason why external links are possible and needed in the first place: to Increase the Value of the article and are a benefit for the user that reads it and NOT the author
Er... what exactly about my contribution to the external links constitutes "proof" that I have very "limited" expertise in the subject? It doesn't really matter anyway because I edit lots of different articles without being an "expert" in the field, as do (probably) most wikipedia contributors. I do not have to be an expert to recognize unsuitable links. We have had a few people agree that a directory link is a good idea. What will it take for you to be convinced that this is how it should be? Barrylb 07:56, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
The only sites that do not support the affiliate marketing business but are related to affiliate marketing (business) are "I hate affiliate marketing business sites". Not a useful alternative. -- Roy-SAC 15:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
External Links for entry Blog
http://www.consumermatch.com/blog/2006/02/blog-atom-rss-xml-and.html Anchor: Blog, Atom, RSS, XML and Syndication/Aggregation ! ? Blogs, ATOM, RSS explained (Essay)
Copy from Anonymous User Talk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:71.195.125.110
2/19/2006 2:50 PST
Hi Carsten (71.195.125.110). We would love to have you as an editor with Wikipedia but we unfortunately cannot accept commercial and advertiser's links. Wikipedia articles are under constant barrage from advertisers and it's nearly impossible to keep the articles clean. Please consider using your expertise to improve the content of the article, we are sorely in need of specialists like yourself. Thanks!
Monkeyman
21:34, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Please elaborate "commercial links", because I don't get it. The trigger of the Article was certainly the Syndication of RSS Feeds and the creation of our Weblog. If one of our partners can't make sense out of this new Technology then there must be a lot of our Visitors that have the same problem. The Article is not about maximizing sales at all? Not even as "hidden" message. (English is my second language but I did not know that it's that bad. I should have written it in german I guess). It's about Blogs and RSS and how they work and what to do with them. My Partner still visits dozens of News Websites directly because he does not know about RSS and Feed Aggregation etc. This Article is meant to be an eye opener and refers to things normal people (non-Geeks) can relate to. Should I add the Post to my Private Weblog which is not related to the whole thing at all and add that link to Wikipedia? http://www.roysac.com/blog/ Oops, I link to a Commercial Site and also have an Adsense Ad on the Page. Should I do what Shopping.com, Priceline.com, Froogle or ShopWIki, Nextag and PriceGrabber did and add a whole new Article about ConsumerMatch.com to Wikipeda and point out there that we have a blog that also contains Useful Post to non-Shopping related things like explanations of new Technologies and buzzwords that seem spanish to joe everybody's? Let me know. Thanks Cumbrowski Carsten
Discussion Page of Article Blog. Please express your opinion about the Article and provide comments.
Please Include the Vote for it: Yes, Add it to the Article or No, Don't add.
Thanks -- Roy-SAC 02:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
The copy was made on 2/25/2006 10:30 am PST.
The reason for the copy is the probably move of the discussion to the Arcive since no more comments were made within almost a week.-- Roy-SAC 18:34, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello Everybody
I published today on our Websites Blog an Article that attempts to explain Blogs, RSS, XML, ATOM to normal people that are not very tech-savvy. It tries to point out the difference to older but similar technologies and what the benefits for the average internet users are if he starts using those new technologies without fearing it. The Article became pretty long and comprehensive that I though that it would be a valuable addition to the "Blog" and "RSS" Post here at Wikipedia.
I added the Link to the External Link Section in the Blog Article and "History and Context" Block in the RSS Article. Shortly after I added it was it removed by User:rodii and User:Monkeyman. Reason: SPAM
I assumed that they did not check the Article at all and just focused on the Domain (which is a Commercial Website), but they assured me that they also think that the Article is not worth to refer people to which try to find out about Blogs and RSS. rodii recommended to post the Link to the Article here and have other you, the community take a look at it and provide comments.
Do you think it's a good article and should be added? Do you think it's not? Why? What exactly do you not like? Something in the Article is Wrong? Incomplete? too Detailed? too Confusion?
Your Feedback is appreciated.
Here is the Article.
Blog, Atom, RSS, XML and Syndication/Aggregation ! ?
Blogs, Blogging, XML, ATOM, RSS explained in simple Words. Written for the regular people using the Internet and not for tech-savvy Geeks.
Article by Carsten Cumbrowski
http://www.consumermatch.com/blog/2006/02/blog-atom-rss-xml-and.html
-- Roy-SAC 02:09, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I made major Additions to the Article. Feel free to discuss it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate_marketing#Massive_Content_Extension -- Roy-SAC 05:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Affiliate Networks are currently a paragraph of the Article for "Affiliate". Recommend own Article. See Details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate#Make_Affiliate_Networks_its_own_Article -- Roy-SAC 05:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Comment to Proposal to merger Internet Marketing into Online Marketing (should be the other way around) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Online_marketing
Added to the above comment also recommendations for the general Category Internet advertising and promotion which is a mess today. -- Roy-SAC 07:23, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Roy, I'm not going to debate external link policy here with you. The place for that is at Wikipedia:External links. -- Barrylb 14:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Staceylouise1987 10:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Welcome! (We can't say that loudly enough!)
Hello, Cumbrowski, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:
If you have any questions or problems, no matter what they are, leave me a message on my talk page. Or, please come to the
new contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}}
on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions.
Please sign your name on talk pages and votes by typing ~~~~; our software automatically converts it to your username and the date.
We're so glad you're here! Staceylouise1987 10:25, 28 September 2009 (UTC)