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meco ( talk) 20:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC) reply

July 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Hail Satan (book). Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Ian.thomson ( talk) 19:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC) reply

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Mr. Thomson,

  I see you have been active again. I also see that you have misunderstood my purpose in being here. You are I see trying to be less abrasive but you still seem to have a private agenda and a persecution complex. I am new here at least as far as this silly squabble over deletion is concerned. As I have previously mentioned my primary activity is literary. If you (which I am sure that you have) gaze over my history you will find that prior to this event previously contributed a rare document of medieval historical significance which I labored long over tedious details to produce and share with other users. Instead of spending my time creating more such documents which I call Freebooks I am stuck attempting to represent a sincere but under informed user who has appealed to me personally for help. It is my intention to return to my scholarly pursuits as soon as possible. That is why I am attempting one last time to contact you and attempt to enter into a more positive dialogue, than has been characteristic of our recent exchanges. I see from your preferences that we are not really so different with the exception of a few small points. I am not a Christian. I reserve my activities to works of charity and benevolence. I am not a satanist but, you may be surprised to learn I am a Thelemite and a Gnostic Bishop engaged in an International Organization known as Congregational Illuminism. I do not expect you to understand my religious preferences but I wish that you would at least broaden your perspectives and refrain from petty sectarian sniping. Well your motives and activities seem petty to me. Instead of recognizing Mr.Chornyisyn' sincerity in presenting his religion in a better light you persist in attacking him under the false guise of Liberal Christianity. Which to my way of thinking is neither liberal, nor is it Christianity. You see I also am an educated southerner from a neighboring state, and a Vanderbilt Alumnus. 
 Perhaps we can try to raise our dialogue to a higher level than accusation and reaction. The choice is yours. You may persist in your overly excited and malicious diatribe e.g. use of expletives that would be better replaced by a polite non inflammatory dialog. Or we may both persist and thus suffer the consequences of our actions. I admit to having some trouble in the edit phase of this discussion, no attempt was made or contemplated to vandalize your page. Perhaps new user struggling to enter into the process would be a better self description. At least I am honest and forthright. I am sorry if you have perceived my activities in a negative frame of reference. But you must admit to a few disturbing actions of your own. In particular your accusations of others and your failure to adhere to your stated objectives, which is to say your self appointed campaign to disguise your own attempts at extortion of a new user from a distant culture ie Mr. Mykhailo Chornyisyn. I quote your own edit where you accused him of engaging in 'childish lies'. You also seem to be under the misapprehension that you are doing other users of Wikipedia a service by way of censoring articles in order to maintain Wikipedia standards of usage. Most other users who are not already predisposed to Christian prejudice against Satanism find your efforts to be full of childish lies, deceit and guile. Wouldn't it be better if we could retreat to a non adversarial point of view and try to help Mr. Choryisn come up to the standards that you purport to be maintaining? Then you would not have to be wasting our time in useless verbiage.     
 After all we both surely have better things to do. You in acquiring your teaching certification and I to go back to writing short stories and creating my FreeBooks which I offer up to my own users, on my own personally maintained web site at: 
http://www.donaldcorrell.com/  If you would be so kind as to browse over to my Pages you will have a better idea of the sorts of things that we cherish in common. Then perhaps hopefully we can turn adversary into if not friendship at least co workers in that fabulous experience of enlightenment that we call Wikipedia.

Donald Correll Corred ( talk) 21:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Welcome!

Hello, Corred, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ~~~~, which will automatically produce your name and the date.

If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!

meco ( talk) 20:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC) reply

July 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Hail Satan (book). Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Ian.thomson ( talk) 19:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC) reply

An Open Message copying a Private Message

Mr. Thomson,

  I see you have been active again. I also see that you have misunderstood my purpose in being here. You are I see trying to be less abrasive but you still seem to have a private agenda and a persecution complex. I am new here at least as far as this silly squabble over deletion is concerned. As I have previously mentioned my primary activity is literary. If you (which I am sure that you have) gaze over my history you will find that prior to this event previously contributed a rare document of medieval historical significance which I labored long over tedious details to produce and share with other users. Instead of spending my time creating more such documents which I call Freebooks I am stuck attempting to represent a sincere but under informed user who has appealed to me personally for help. It is my intention to return to my scholarly pursuits as soon as possible. That is why I am attempting one last time to contact you and attempt to enter into a more positive dialogue, than has been characteristic of our recent exchanges. I see from your preferences that we are not really so different with the exception of a few small points. I am not a Christian. I reserve my activities to works of charity and benevolence. I am not a satanist but, you may be surprised to learn I am a Thelemite and a Gnostic Bishop engaged in an International Organization known as Congregational Illuminism. I do not expect you to understand my religious preferences but I wish that you would at least broaden your perspectives and refrain from petty sectarian sniping. Well your motives and activities seem petty to me. Instead of recognizing Mr.Chornyisyn' sincerity in presenting his religion in a better light you persist in attacking him under the false guise of Liberal Christianity. Which to my way of thinking is neither liberal, nor is it Christianity. You see I also am an educated southerner from a neighboring state, and a Vanderbilt Alumnus. 
 Perhaps we can try to raise our dialogue to a higher level than accusation and reaction. The choice is yours. You may persist in your overly excited and malicious diatribe e.g. use of expletives that would be better replaced by a polite non inflammatory dialog. Or we may both persist and thus suffer the consequences of our actions. I admit to having some trouble in the edit phase of this discussion, no attempt was made or contemplated to vandalize your page. Perhaps new user struggling to enter into the process would be a better self description. At least I am honest and forthright. I am sorry if you have perceived my activities in a negative frame of reference. But you must admit to a few disturbing actions of your own. In particular your accusations of others and your failure to adhere to your stated objectives, which is to say your self appointed campaign to disguise your own attempts at extortion of a new user from a distant culture ie Mr. Mykhailo Chornyisyn. I quote your own edit where you accused him of engaging in 'childish lies'. You also seem to be under the misapprehension that you are doing other users of Wikipedia a service by way of censoring articles in order to maintain Wikipedia standards of usage. Most other users who are not already predisposed to Christian prejudice against Satanism find your efforts to be full of childish lies, deceit and guile. Wouldn't it be better if we could retreat to a non adversarial point of view and try to help Mr. Choryisn come up to the standards that you purport to be maintaining? Then you would not have to be wasting our time in useless verbiage.     
 After all we both surely have better things to do. You in acquiring your teaching certification and I to go back to writing short stories and creating my FreeBooks which I offer up to my own users, on my own personally maintained web site at: 
http://www.donaldcorrell.com/  If you would be so kind as to browse over to my Pages you will have a better idea of the sorts of things that we cherish in common. Then perhaps hopefully we can turn adversary into if not friendship at least co workers in that fabulous experience of enlightenment that we call Wikipedia.

Donald Correll Corred ( talk) 21:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC) reply


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