Thank you for participating in my RfA. I appreciate your taking the time to comment, and plan on learning from the experience and keeping the criticism in mind. If, in the future, you see me doing something that still concerns you, please let me know about it. -- barneca ( talk) 13:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you could take the time to review Satanic ritual abuse and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Glenn L. Pace. It seems apparent that the first one is designed to be purposely sensationalistic and the second to lend credibility to the first. There are some discussions that would be benefited by a broader range of input. -- Storm Rider (talk) 05:59, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. I see you moved the above title to Avraham Grant following an IP's attempt at a cut and paste move. It has been agreed on the talk page that it should be at Avram Grant, but this was the fourth or fifth time that an IP has cut and pasted it to Avraham Grant. Do you think it would be acceptable practise to semi-protect Avraham Grant as a redirect to prevent any more cut and paste moves to it before there is another discussion? пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 09:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace, so that is what I will do. I will go for another RfA in two month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been two months. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! -- Cobi( t| c| b| cn) 01:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
What I was alluding to is that the arbitrators (other than Fred) clearly haven't examined this case. It's much easier to bury THF than to actually sift through the evidence and come to the right decision. Most of Smb's evidence (cited in 4B) is bogus, and the diffs presented in finding 4B are dubious, yet the finding has 5 supporting votes, including the one you alluded to in your talk page note. Intellectual laziness is rampant on Wikipedia, and it goes all the way to the top. Long ago I lost confidence in the admin community here, and now I hold equally low regard for the arb com. Many editors think that trolls are the biggest problem on Wikipedia; but I think the detrimental effect of the occasional troll pales in comparison a case like this, which can best arbcom-sanctioned POV pushing. Very disappointing. ATren 09:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, AfD is an inconsistent process. I think we should WP:DRV Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of schools offering the International Baccalaureate Middle Years Programme on grounds that the discussion for the other two suggests a non-consensus. I would support undeletion. It's absurd to have deleted only the one. Cool Hand Luke 15:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate it. -- AnonEMouse (squeak) 13:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Please see Template talk:CongBio2.— Markles 15:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I accidentally added that comment in the wrong place.
And, yes, he was one of the juvenile "chin mockers". See this section. ATren 00:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to request some assistance with ShankBone. The Avidor thing has nothing to do with this, and for what it's worth, I stand by every single action I took in that dispute. Despite my repeated pleas, he refuses to stop talking about it or take it to proper channels - he'd rather keep it for use as a battering ram against me in every single conversation. Do you know where I can go for this? User conduct RFC? AN/I? Any suggestions? ATren 01:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I respect that you don't want to judge one way or another on that case. If you're interested, I summarized the dispute here in one of my many unsuccessful attempts to get DS to stop. As for diffs, there were a few I regret from my first month on the project, but other than that I've done my best to adhere to policy and rules. JzG and I had epic battles, because he supported Avidor (long, long story there). He was the only user who really ever supported Avidor on Wiki.
The Avidor/PRT dispute was really something that I fell into. I was interested in the technology to be sure, but I was never a proponent in any way. But when I saw the frequency and severity of disinformation this person was spreading, it struck a nerve. These poor bastards who have made PRT their life work were being ruthlessly attacked by Avidor, and not even fairly (he was caught using at least one sock puppet blog, and I suspect there may have been more). It didn't sit right with me, especially since I knew from studying the technology that almost everything he was saying was a deception. He was literally making up things to smear the technology and its proponents, and he's been doing it almost non-stop since 2003.
In any case, I stand by my actions here and off wiki. My blog has a total of 16 posts over 1.5 years. It's not at all personal - I criticise his campaign and his tactics. Make no mistake: it's sharp criticism, but it's all justified. If anyone cares I would be more than happy to defend everything I've ever written with regard to Avidor and his campaign.
So there it is, if you're interested. I hope we can put it to bed now, but given David's history I suspect he will take this all the way to arbcom... which is fine, because I have nothing to hide. ATren 01:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to block a user from editing an article/template? I was thinking that if we can't work out some compromise to the name & title of the templates for the econ prize, then it would be best if we just permanently blocked all of us who have been edit warring (me, Liftarn, Vision Thing, Camptown, and Lost.goblin) from the templates and let others work it out. Anyway, I've proposed a name change and we'll see if it goes through. –panda 01:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I vaguely sensed a few days ago that maybe it was worth continuing and then the lock up of Whig which was appalling and unjustified except to ambitious creeps like cuerden; and then this today convinces me that quality people with a good 29 year knowledge of this subject are not wanted and not respected here and so I take my leave. I also felt your comments at the weekend were vaguely constructive and encouraging but no it is too faint an echo, too weak a force to pitch against the crude, barbaric and appalling babble of these inexorable cretins who clearly have the upper hand. It's far too much to bear any longer, goodbye. Peter morrell 21:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for voting at my RfA. Unfortunately, the result stands at 51 support, 21 oppose and 7 neutral which means that I did not succeed. As many expressed their appreciation of my works in featured portals during my RfA, I will fill up the vacuum position of director in featured portal candidates to maintain the standards of featured contents in addition to my active role in Good articles. Have a great day. OhanaUnited Talk page 04:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that [1]. I was in the middle of writing a note to the edit warrior on his talk page, suggesting that as a compromise we include a neutrally worded allusion to the controversy about whether Sulejman Talović was a terrorist or not, but it seems you already took care of it.-- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 20:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
This [2] makes no sense to me. Which is the "self published" bit you're removing? William M. Connolley 21:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Your handling of the whole issue is a disgrace. You made controversial page move not following proper procedure and now you are accusing me of "petty" behavior. If you object to the incorrect capitalization then move page back to the Nobel Prize in Economics where it was. -- Vision Thing -- 17:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Where's the bug?— Markles 17:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that both are valid spellings of the word. :) -- Starwed ( talk) 16:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I notice you removed the following from Groklaw:
'While the site includes text versions of various legal filings and court proceedings, with commentary thereon, it also contains links to the original versions so that readers can verify details as required.'
Could you explain why, since as far as I know it is a completely factual statement.
Murray Langton ( talk) 08:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I'll watch this page, so reply here.
In the Groklaw history entry for 17:02, 21 November 2007 you say "The denial of service attack seems well-supported" but the cited blog entry does not provide sufficient data to support the claim. Note that this Slashdot comment raises some relevant technical issues and the author of the blog post responded essentially admitting that he has not seen the data but has a feeling based on conversations with various people. The blog shows three redacted log entries amounting to a total of less than 140K bytes retrieved, and says that these were three of five entries revealed to the blog author. There is no hint anywhere of the total number of log entries, the total data volume downloaded, or how traffic at that time compares to normal traffic on an average day, let alone on a day when a news site has a controversial and widely referenced story; there is no hint that any particular client IP address was responsible for a disproportionate number of requests or data volume - these are all statistics that any web log analyser will give the site operator. There is not even a hint that the retrieval of '/' was followed by retrievals of the embedded content (such as images) let alone by retrievals of referenced pages that use of the recursion feature of wget would imply. The evidence revealed in the blog post just does not support the DoS claim and we are left with essentially "my friends who still work there tell me there was a DDoS attack". I will leave it to your judgement to decide whether or not the blog post is a sufficient citation for the remark about the DoS attack rather than hearsay involving a weakly supported allegation by a party to the dispute. Personally, I think that the DoS remark deserves to be labelled "alleged".
GrumpyOldWebmaster ( talk) 09:25, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I have read your comments on various pages, and wanted to thank you for your objectivity. You have provided constructive criticism for all editors concerned with it, and it is sincerely appreciated. Jeffpw ( talk) 17:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Cool hand Luke: Thank you for contacting me. I have now completed my response to your question at User talk:IZAK#Aron Tendler redux. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 10:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Cool Hand Luke. Quick question regarding the section you reverted on the Brigham Young article. Originally there was more in that section, including the statement about Young's speaking style, which was uncited. I added only the block quote some time ago to source the statement that was originally in the article regarding BY's speaking style, but I believe that you are saying the the original statement (the one that I didn't write) was OR. If I understand correctly, you are saying that it would be acceptable if we referenced a source in which an author was talking about BY's style of speaking, rather than using a quote from BY himself. Is this correct? Also, there was another cited paragraph in the section on personality that was removed that I haven't added back yet until I check the reference (too busy working on Wikisource right now to spend much time on Wikipedia). The exact same situation exists in the section "Beliefs about blacks" - An unsourced introductory statement about how Young was criticized, followed only by sourced quotes from Young himself, and it sounds like it ought to be removed using the same criteria that you applied to the "personality" section. My issue with the "personality" section was not necessarily with the specific contents of the section (I'm happy to find appropriate sources as long as I understand what is appropriate).- My issue was with the idea that statements regarding the subject's personality don't belong in a biography, since the reason given by the editor that removed the entire section originally was that it was "unneccessary." Thanks, Bochica 05:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your notice of the discussion ongoing at BLP disputes. I've made a brief comment there. Snocrates 01:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
There is quite a dust-up in the articles for Joe Klein and Glenn Greenwald. If you are able and willing, would you please review the diffs of the articles? A request has been made on the Biographies of Living Persons Noticeboard, but the only people who have posted to it are the (bloodied but unbowed) combatants, er, editors. <br. />-- Nbahn ( talk) 07:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
dust-up basically resolved<br. />-- NOBahn ( talk) 08:28, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Cool Hand, I just logged into Wiki after a month hiatus. I had been very busy with my real life. I apparantly logged in a week too late to address the 3rd AfD. I wanted to let you know that the DMN article was real, as stated in the archive discussion of the AfD by another editor. I just couldnt find a proper link to it. Was it a fluff piece, maybe, but does positive news automatically have to be bad? I am not employed by that company nor am I distributor. Time to time I have taken that product, but again, I am not affilliated with the company. I don't see how a positive mention by the DMN can consider the article an advertisement. I also dont understand your repeated attempts to delete it without modifying it instead. Apparantly people have problems with it being read as spam. I can appreciate that and it may come off like that to someone who does not have a positive image of the company, but shouldnt the wording be changed as opposed to having the entire article deleted? Terry Bradshaw's piece was also aired on his syndicated show he had at the time. That was sourced as well. I just don't get your logic here. Arnabdas ( talk) 18:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on the Romney article. You said in a December 1 edit summary: "Remove WP:UNDUE weight given to non-notable great grandparents. Unless and until we are willing to commit a section to fully and fairly explore this issue, it has not place in a BLP." You were right, and now there's a full section. Ferrylodge ( talk) 08:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, could you restore this to my user space? Thanks, Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 04:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll post here rather than there as I will not be part of that "discussion". I left en wp a while back because of attitudes exemplified by the other user who posted & swore I would not come back. I merely do what I can to help. If you look around you will rarely see any form of animosity in my postings but I have to draw the line somewhere. I'm posting to you as I do feel that your suggestions are basically worthwhile and should be explored, however not be me.
Thanks you for your approach in this - I understand your frustration and hope I will be able to be more help in the future to you - regards -- Herby talk thyme 09:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I have this fantasy that Wikipedia is a collaborative effort where likeminded people work together to gather and refine knowledge into articles in a constant upwards ratcheting cycle of improvement for the greater collective good. Then this dream is crushed by incidents as we are dealing with legistorm. It seems that rather than acknowledging that the blacklist was an ill-conceived, hastily-implemented solution to a problem that really didn't exist, the strategy seems to be to stand by the admins, right or wrong, and push off the issue for some indeterminite perios of time, while acknoweledging that there is nothing really wrong with the site. I guess some fantasies were never meant to come true, bu then again, I haven't had much like with my fantasy that involves three blondes, either. Thanks again for your efforts to insert some much needed rationality and common sense in a discussion that seems utterly fruitless. Alansohn ( talk) 22:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
My apologies. That shouldn't have been deleted. There was a rather large list of empty categories that I was cleaning out... Probably would be best to mark that page somehow to indicate that it shouldn't be deleted if it's empty. Cheers. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 04:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Since you appear to be changing your vote to "weak oppose" at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/E2, may I suggest you make this clear by striking out the word "Oppose" at the beginning of your vote and putting "Weak oppose" next to it. Just a suggestion from someone who doesn't necessarily know if there's a right way to do that. -- Coppertwig ( talk) 18:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Have you mention this to SA who has four reversions? Anthon01 ( talk) 21:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
For sorting out those history merges in spite of the database locks. I notice you said, "You're very good at finding these." - I wish I could take credit but whenever someone copy/pastes an article, User:Coren's bot notices it and reports it as a copyvio at WP:SCV, where I have taken to hanging out. CIreland ( talk) 00:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
There's around 80 article with links to Frank Gardner as Frank Gardner the racing driver. Is fixing all of those in hand? Or do we start restoring both Frank Gardner pages to what they were now? -- Falcadore ( talk) 01:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Where in the wikipedia policy does it say that "non-WEIGHTy non sequitur" items can be removed? There are a lot of 2 sentence sections on this page, why weren't they removed? Seeing how you haven't recently updated this page in the past, I am wondering why you didn't talk about your deletion on the talk page before hand? Did you know that more than 1 out every 10 korean in america came here by way of international adoption? Did you know that these adoptees are 5 times more likely to commit suicide then other childrens? I added this information in but somebody said that I needed a reputable source to back up the inclusion of this data on this page. Anybody can see that these adoptees are being objectified which is the basis of asian fetish. the problem with adoption is that people doing the adoption are trying to prevent any negative information from getting out regarding the process. You can see this issue in the edit warring going on the International Adoption and other related pages. Tkguy ( talk) 00:16, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you know if there's any way to assess the quality of a list? I recently created a list that will likely be fully expanded very shortly. Maser ( Talk!) 09:24, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
This comment is unacceptable. See WP:CIVIL. Comment on the content, not the contributers. 09:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Tkguy just threatened me about violating the 3RR rule, which I find rather confusing. Do you always get blocked for violating 3RR? Doesn't every edit virtually "undo the actions of other editors?" Also, I don't know how the reversions are counted. It means I can revert 3 times every 24 hours right? While I did revert 4 times in the past 24 hours (blocked), I also reverted 6 times in the past 48 hours (okay?). What will happen? миражinred 01:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
You're quite right - I was half-asleep and didn't realise that the DRV was only opened yesterday. Honest mistake. I've reverted myself. Walton One 23:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Merge is complete. [3] -- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back ( talk) 09:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Please remove your personal attack on me from the talk page and post an apology otherwise I will start the arbitration process. Tkguy ( talk) 02:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your participation in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate that landed on WP:100, but ultimately was deemed a successful declaration of consensus, and I am now an admin. I definitely paid close attention to everything that was said in the debate, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holidays and all the off-wiki distractions. I'm working my way through the Wikipedia:New admin school, carefully double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools, with my main goals being to help out with various backlogs. I sincerely doubt you'll see anything controversial coming from my new access level. :) I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are a few more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status. If you do ever have any concerns about my activities as an administrator, I encourage you to let me know. My door is always open. Have a good new year, -- El on ka 03:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
You commented on Dec 23rd on this talkpage's RfC. [4] I wonder if you would clarify which you response. You commented "Agree with Crum375. The council didn't find what the article claims they found. We're drawing new conclusions, and it's a SYNTH problem." It would be helpful if you quoted the text from the article that you feel doesn't reflect the what the council found. Thanks. Anthon01 ( talk) 16:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Cool Hand Luke. The article is literally days away from being unprotected so I wanted you to see my draft at my sandbox. I was wondering if this draft can be used after the article becomes unprotected. Other users provided feedback on the talk page. I hope you would do so, too. Also, if you see anything that should be improved, please feel free to edit it. Thanks. миражinred ( speak, my child...) 19:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I have issued a request for arbitration case involving you. See Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Unfettered_Personal_Attacks,_Bullying,_and_Stalking_on_Asian_fetish. Tkguy ( talk) 08:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I know from your efforts at WP:SPLICE that you're one of the move repairers-in-chief, and I was wondering if you could assist in what I reckon is a small GFDL violation.
Category:Getrag transmissions was created some time in 2005, and existed for about two years. Then, late last year, another user created the duplicate Category:GETRAG transmissions instead of going to WP:CfD to get the original renamed. He depopulated the original category ( here, here), and here, and I noticed yesterday that the "empty" original category had since been deleted per WP:CSD#C1.
I asked the deleting admin to restore and merge the cats' histories, as I felt that we were obliged by the GFDL to attribute the category's creation to the original author ( User:Sfoskett), but he declined to do so. I wasn't sure if WP:SPLICE covered stuff like this, so I thought I'd come here first and get a more experienced hand with such issues to confirm (or allay) my concerns. -- DeLarge ( talk) 11:49, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, but {{ db-redirmisnomer}} is for useless redirects, no? What I wanted to do is to move a page to a proper title when the target page already has a history. Another admin has told me to use {{ db-histmerge}} on the target article to get it deleted, to then move the article in the normal way. I did not know If the new title is just a redirect to the old title, with just one line in the page history, then you can move the page in the normal way. I know it for the next time, but now in these articles the history pages have more than one line, and as you removed the db-histmerge tags, can you move these two articles please:
-Thanks. Siba ( talk) 12:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Anyway, I really don't know enough about Mitt Romney to edit. Your arguments sounded good to me. Let me know if you need me to undo any damage I did in reverting to the "stable version." Thanks. TableManners C· U· T 05:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I am edit warring? This is once again where the expression the "pot calling the kettle black" comes in. And adding that WP:NOR in the WP:LEAD just because some 3rr blocked person calls Asian fetish a slang? Where's your source for this? Talk pages are not sources. Tkguy ( talk) 05:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I request oversight of personal information of a user on their talk page on their behalf. Someone oversighted the revision, without removing the text, can you fix it? I think you can figure out what needs to be removed.-- Crossmr ( talk) 06:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Please do not bandwagon an ongoing attempt to editwar. 'Outbreak' is the official term and is used in all the references. It is not the same as a cluster. Guido den Broeder ( talk) 18:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Whatever our different perspectives in the past, I just wanted to let you know that I think you are a very fine editor and admin and that I admire you for that. Thank you for always keeping a cool head in the midst of discord and for encouraging others to do so as well. Qworty ( talk) 20:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Cool Hand Luke, thank you so much for your input at the RfC. As a result of a heated edit war the talk page became really big in a short amount of time, so I just archived Asian fetish (already on archive13) along with the RfC. I wasn't sure if I could just get rid of the RfC template on my own. What do you do with an old RfC? Should it be put back from the archive? миражinred ( speak, my child...) 02:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for repairing my mess up there. Having been notified, I was on my way to do it when I discovered it already underway. I appreciate it. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
IMHO you were out of place in deleting Travis Cleveland's stuff while retaining equally soapboxy/hateful stuff in close proximity to it. For example, these are still there:
Some of us agree with Cleveland that "This entire article reads like a raving liberal rant about her being evil,..." In fact, I would say that any objective reader would agree with that general principle, if not with those exact words.
I have noticed that Andyvphil seems to think of himself as the arbiter of what should be in this article. I hope that others don't take the same attitude about the talk page. Lou Sander ( talk) 03:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm a bit surprised by your comment that only Overstock.com and it's "agents" are opposed to illegal naked short selling and seeking to end it.
Here are a few more for you to consider:
...and many, many more.
The extreme irony is, Gary Weiss is just about the only person willing to go on the record in favor of this form of fraudulent stock trading. You didn't know that because his is the only view allowed here on Wikipedia.
I guarantee you, if you're open to learning a little more, you'll be among the many, many Wikipedians scratching their heads over the day-is-night approach to truth that this place has adopted under the influence of Weiss.-- Post Doctorate y-o-y ( talk) 06:34, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
You missed my point. I just gave you the names of about 1,200 people who wstrongly disagree with Gary Weiss and his support of fraudulent stock trading. By your logic, if any of them should edit Wikipedia accordingly, they qualify as Wordbomb meatpuppets. What I'm telling you is that Weiss/Samiharris are the black sheep on this topic, yet this place would have the world believe otherwise. And because I've said as much, I suspect I'll be getting banned here soon, too. Nice chatting with you.-- Post Doctorate y-o-y ( talk) 07:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Luke, I think it is more than a little unseemly to have the talk page of an administrator used as a forum for yet another Weiss-obsessed SPA. Yes, I know, the fact that he walks like WordBomb, talks like WordBomb, and spews like WordBomb, does not in any way, shape or form make him a WordBomb meatpuppet, God forbid! But I would expect better from an administrator in terms of proper use of his or her talk page.-- Samiharris ( talk) 16:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
And with that ↑↑↑↑↑(!) I suppose I rest my case. No...allow me to add one more point. With that, the defense rests. -- Post Doctorate y-o-y ( talk) 06:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I wish to thank you for being supportive of my effort to regain my adminship. Though it was not successful, your support was still very much appreciated. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. Thank you!-- MONGO 06:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The "problem" is that Post Doctoral Y-O-Y is a confirmed sock of indef blocked user WordBomb. [5] The exchange above consist of contributions of a sock of a user evading his block. Are you going to delete them as per policy? Just wondering.-- Samiharris ( talk) 16:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The issue is not that it's an SPA, but a blocked user evading a block.
Are you saying you think that blocked users should be continue to allowed to evade their block, as Post Doctoral Y-0-Y did? I thought it was customary to remove posts from blocked or banned users evading their blocks. I am not sure why you are making an exception for WordBomb.
Also I am curious about the edit summary you used here [6]. I have no problem with your blanking his talk page, but I did not ask you to do that or say that I had a "problem" with that particular exchange of posts. In my comment above, I was talking about his exchange with you, where he uses the usual WordBomb innuendo. Why did you delete the exchange I didn't mention while not deleting the one I did mention?-- Samiharris ( talk) 17:51, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I hear you, but the practice of removing edits by indef blocked users applies to all Wiki space, including user pages. User talk space is not exempted. That is why I was curious why you, as an administrator expected to set an example, would let your user page be used as a forum by this blocked user. I understand your explanation, I just don't think it is consistent with standard practice on edits by blocked users.-- Samiharris ( talk) 20:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Here is the policy on reversion of edits by banned user. [7] WordBomb, as permanently blocked, is "effectively considered to have been banned by the community" under WP:BLOCK. Enforcing bans by removing edits is certainly something that Wikipedians do every day, and in my view your failure to do so is tantamount to giving a platform to a particularly vicious troll.
But more importantly, his post above runs afoul of BLP, which applies to user talk pages as you know, as well as NPA as regards to me. That would have been the case no matter who had posted that stuff, and the fact that it is a blocked user just makes it more conspicuous. No, I do not believe that the contributions of WordBomb can help to "build an encyclopedia" and I am a bit surprised that you do.-- Samiharris ( talk) 20:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for participating in my RfA. I appreciate your taking the time to comment, and plan on learning from the experience and keeping the criticism in mind. If, in the future, you see me doing something that still concerns you, please let me know about it. -- barneca ( talk) 13:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you could take the time to review Satanic ritual abuse and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Glenn L. Pace. It seems apparent that the first one is designed to be purposely sensationalistic and the second to lend credibility to the first. There are some discussions that would be benefited by a broader range of input. -- Storm Rider (talk) 05:59, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. I see you moved the above title to Avraham Grant following an IP's attempt at a cut and paste move. It has been agreed on the talk page that it should be at Avram Grant, but this was the fourth or fifth time that an IP has cut and pasted it to Avraham Grant. Do you think it would be acceptable practise to semi-protect Avraham Grant as a redirect to prevent any more cut and paste moves to it before there is another discussion? пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 09:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace, so that is what I will do. I will go for another RfA in two month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been two months. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! -- Cobi( t| c| b| cn) 01:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
What I was alluding to is that the arbitrators (other than Fred) clearly haven't examined this case. It's much easier to bury THF than to actually sift through the evidence and come to the right decision. Most of Smb's evidence (cited in 4B) is bogus, and the diffs presented in finding 4B are dubious, yet the finding has 5 supporting votes, including the one you alluded to in your talk page note. Intellectual laziness is rampant on Wikipedia, and it goes all the way to the top. Long ago I lost confidence in the admin community here, and now I hold equally low regard for the arb com. Many editors think that trolls are the biggest problem on Wikipedia; but I think the detrimental effect of the occasional troll pales in comparison a case like this, which can best arbcom-sanctioned POV pushing. Very disappointing. ATren 09:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, AfD is an inconsistent process. I think we should WP:DRV Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of schools offering the International Baccalaureate Middle Years Programme on grounds that the discussion for the other two suggests a non-consensus. I would support undeletion. It's absurd to have deleted only the one. Cool Hand Luke 15:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate it. -- AnonEMouse (squeak) 13:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Please see Template talk:CongBio2.— Markles 15:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I accidentally added that comment in the wrong place.
And, yes, he was one of the juvenile "chin mockers". See this section. ATren 00:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to request some assistance with ShankBone. The Avidor thing has nothing to do with this, and for what it's worth, I stand by every single action I took in that dispute. Despite my repeated pleas, he refuses to stop talking about it or take it to proper channels - he'd rather keep it for use as a battering ram against me in every single conversation. Do you know where I can go for this? User conduct RFC? AN/I? Any suggestions? ATren 01:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I respect that you don't want to judge one way or another on that case. If you're interested, I summarized the dispute here in one of my many unsuccessful attempts to get DS to stop. As for diffs, there were a few I regret from my first month on the project, but other than that I've done my best to adhere to policy and rules. JzG and I had epic battles, because he supported Avidor (long, long story there). He was the only user who really ever supported Avidor on Wiki.
The Avidor/PRT dispute was really something that I fell into. I was interested in the technology to be sure, but I was never a proponent in any way. But when I saw the frequency and severity of disinformation this person was spreading, it struck a nerve. These poor bastards who have made PRT their life work were being ruthlessly attacked by Avidor, and not even fairly (he was caught using at least one sock puppet blog, and I suspect there may have been more). It didn't sit right with me, especially since I knew from studying the technology that almost everything he was saying was a deception. He was literally making up things to smear the technology and its proponents, and he's been doing it almost non-stop since 2003.
In any case, I stand by my actions here and off wiki. My blog has a total of 16 posts over 1.5 years. It's not at all personal - I criticise his campaign and his tactics. Make no mistake: it's sharp criticism, but it's all justified. If anyone cares I would be more than happy to defend everything I've ever written with regard to Avidor and his campaign.
So there it is, if you're interested. I hope we can put it to bed now, but given David's history I suspect he will take this all the way to arbcom... which is fine, because I have nothing to hide. ATren 01:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to block a user from editing an article/template? I was thinking that if we can't work out some compromise to the name & title of the templates for the econ prize, then it would be best if we just permanently blocked all of us who have been edit warring (me, Liftarn, Vision Thing, Camptown, and Lost.goblin) from the templates and let others work it out. Anyway, I've proposed a name change and we'll see if it goes through. –panda 01:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I vaguely sensed a few days ago that maybe it was worth continuing and then the lock up of Whig which was appalling and unjustified except to ambitious creeps like cuerden; and then this today convinces me that quality people with a good 29 year knowledge of this subject are not wanted and not respected here and so I take my leave. I also felt your comments at the weekend were vaguely constructive and encouraging but no it is too faint an echo, too weak a force to pitch against the crude, barbaric and appalling babble of these inexorable cretins who clearly have the upper hand. It's far too much to bear any longer, goodbye. Peter morrell 21:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for voting at my RfA. Unfortunately, the result stands at 51 support, 21 oppose and 7 neutral which means that I did not succeed. As many expressed their appreciation of my works in featured portals during my RfA, I will fill up the vacuum position of director in featured portal candidates to maintain the standards of featured contents in addition to my active role in Good articles. Have a great day. OhanaUnited Talk page 04:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that [1]. I was in the middle of writing a note to the edit warrior on his talk page, suggesting that as a compromise we include a neutrally worded allusion to the controversy about whether Sulejman Talović was a terrorist or not, but it seems you already took care of it.-- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 20:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
This [2] makes no sense to me. Which is the "self published" bit you're removing? William M. Connolley 21:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Your handling of the whole issue is a disgrace. You made controversial page move not following proper procedure and now you are accusing me of "petty" behavior. If you object to the incorrect capitalization then move page back to the Nobel Prize in Economics where it was. -- Vision Thing -- 17:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Where's the bug?— Markles 17:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to point out that both are valid spellings of the word. :) -- Starwed ( talk) 16:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I notice you removed the following from Groklaw:
'While the site includes text versions of various legal filings and court proceedings, with commentary thereon, it also contains links to the original versions so that readers can verify details as required.'
Could you explain why, since as far as I know it is a completely factual statement.
Murray Langton ( talk) 08:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I'll watch this page, so reply here.
In the Groklaw history entry for 17:02, 21 November 2007 you say "The denial of service attack seems well-supported" but the cited blog entry does not provide sufficient data to support the claim. Note that this Slashdot comment raises some relevant technical issues and the author of the blog post responded essentially admitting that he has not seen the data but has a feeling based on conversations with various people. The blog shows three redacted log entries amounting to a total of less than 140K bytes retrieved, and says that these were three of five entries revealed to the blog author. There is no hint anywhere of the total number of log entries, the total data volume downloaded, or how traffic at that time compares to normal traffic on an average day, let alone on a day when a news site has a controversial and widely referenced story; there is no hint that any particular client IP address was responsible for a disproportionate number of requests or data volume - these are all statistics that any web log analyser will give the site operator. There is not even a hint that the retrieval of '/' was followed by retrievals of the embedded content (such as images) let alone by retrievals of referenced pages that use of the recursion feature of wget would imply. The evidence revealed in the blog post just does not support the DoS claim and we are left with essentially "my friends who still work there tell me there was a DDoS attack". I will leave it to your judgement to decide whether or not the blog post is a sufficient citation for the remark about the DoS attack rather than hearsay involving a weakly supported allegation by a party to the dispute. Personally, I think that the DoS remark deserves to be labelled "alleged".
GrumpyOldWebmaster ( talk) 09:25, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I have read your comments on various pages, and wanted to thank you for your objectivity. You have provided constructive criticism for all editors concerned with it, and it is sincerely appreciated. Jeffpw ( talk) 17:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Cool hand Luke: Thank you for contacting me. I have now completed my response to your question at User talk:IZAK#Aron Tendler redux. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 10:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Cool Hand Luke. Quick question regarding the section you reverted on the Brigham Young article. Originally there was more in that section, including the statement about Young's speaking style, which was uncited. I added only the block quote some time ago to source the statement that was originally in the article regarding BY's speaking style, but I believe that you are saying the the original statement (the one that I didn't write) was OR. If I understand correctly, you are saying that it would be acceptable if we referenced a source in which an author was talking about BY's style of speaking, rather than using a quote from BY himself. Is this correct? Also, there was another cited paragraph in the section on personality that was removed that I haven't added back yet until I check the reference (too busy working on Wikisource right now to spend much time on Wikipedia). The exact same situation exists in the section "Beliefs about blacks" - An unsourced introductory statement about how Young was criticized, followed only by sourced quotes from Young himself, and it sounds like it ought to be removed using the same criteria that you applied to the "personality" section. My issue with the "personality" section was not necessarily with the specific contents of the section (I'm happy to find appropriate sources as long as I understand what is appropriate).- My issue was with the idea that statements regarding the subject's personality don't belong in a biography, since the reason given by the editor that removed the entire section originally was that it was "unneccessary." Thanks, Bochica 05:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your notice of the discussion ongoing at BLP disputes. I've made a brief comment there. Snocrates 01:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
There is quite a dust-up in the articles for Joe Klein and Glenn Greenwald. If you are able and willing, would you please review the diffs of the articles? A request has been made on the Biographies of Living Persons Noticeboard, but the only people who have posted to it are the (bloodied but unbowed) combatants, er, editors. <br. />-- Nbahn ( talk) 07:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
dust-up basically resolved<br. />-- NOBahn ( talk) 08:28, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Cool Hand, I just logged into Wiki after a month hiatus. I had been very busy with my real life. I apparantly logged in a week too late to address the 3rd AfD. I wanted to let you know that the DMN article was real, as stated in the archive discussion of the AfD by another editor. I just couldnt find a proper link to it. Was it a fluff piece, maybe, but does positive news automatically have to be bad? I am not employed by that company nor am I distributor. Time to time I have taken that product, but again, I am not affilliated with the company. I don't see how a positive mention by the DMN can consider the article an advertisement. I also dont understand your repeated attempts to delete it without modifying it instead. Apparantly people have problems with it being read as spam. I can appreciate that and it may come off like that to someone who does not have a positive image of the company, but shouldnt the wording be changed as opposed to having the entire article deleted? Terry Bradshaw's piece was also aired on his syndicated show he had at the time. That was sourced as well. I just don't get your logic here. Arnabdas ( talk) 18:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on the Romney article. You said in a December 1 edit summary: "Remove WP:UNDUE weight given to non-notable great grandparents. Unless and until we are willing to commit a section to fully and fairly explore this issue, it has not place in a BLP." You were right, and now there's a full section. Ferrylodge ( talk) 08:00, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, could you restore this to my user space? Thanks, Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 04:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll post here rather than there as I will not be part of that "discussion". I left en wp a while back because of attitudes exemplified by the other user who posted & swore I would not come back. I merely do what I can to help. If you look around you will rarely see any form of animosity in my postings but I have to draw the line somewhere. I'm posting to you as I do feel that your suggestions are basically worthwhile and should be explored, however not be me.
Thanks you for your approach in this - I understand your frustration and hope I will be able to be more help in the future to you - regards -- Herby talk thyme 09:19, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I have this fantasy that Wikipedia is a collaborative effort where likeminded people work together to gather and refine knowledge into articles in a constant upwards ratcheting cycle of improvement for the greater collective good. Then this dream is crushed by incidents as we are dealing with legistorm. It seems that rather than acknowledging that the blacklist was an ill-conceived, hastily-implemented solution to a problem that really didn't exist, the strategy seems to be to stand by the admins, right or wrong, and push off the issue for some indeterminite perios of time, while acknoweledging that there is nothing really wrong with the site. I guess some fantasies were never meant to come true, bu then again, I haven't had much like with my fantasy that involves three blondes, either. Thanks again for your efforts to insert some much needed rationality and common sense in a discussion that seems utterly fruitless. Alansohn ( talk) 22:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
My apologies. That shouldn't have been deleted. There was a rather large list of empty categories that I was cleaning out... Probably would be best to mark that page somehow to indicate that it shouldn't be deleted if it's empty. Cheers. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 04:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Since you appear to be changing your vote to "weak oppose" at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/E2, may I suggest you make this clear by striking out the word "Oppose" at the beginning of your vote and putting "Weak oppose" next to it. Just a suggestion from someone who doesn't necessarily know if there's a right way to do that. -- Coppertwig ( talk) 18:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Have you mention this to SA who has four reversions? Anthon01 ( talk) 21:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
For sorting out those history merges in spite of the database locks. I notice you said, "You're very good at finding these." - I wish I could take credit but whenever someone copy/pastes an article, User:Coren's bot notices it and reports it as a copyvio at WP:SCV, where I have taken to hanging out. CIreland ( talk) 00:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
There's around 80 article with links to Frank Gardner as Frank Gardner the racing driver. Is fixing all of those in hand? Or do we start restoring both Frank Gardner pages to what they were now? -- Falcadore ( talk) 01:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Where in the wikipedia policy does it say that "non-WEIGHTy non sequitur" items can be removed? There are a lot of 2 sentence sections on this page, why weren't they removed? Seeing how you haven't recently updated this page in the past, I am wondering why you didn't talk about your deletion on the talk page before hand? Did you know that more than 1 out every 10 korean in america came here by way of international adoption? Did you know that these adoptees are 5 times more likely to commit suicide then other childrens? I added this information in but somebody said that I needed a reputable source to back up the inclusion of this data on this page. Anybody can see that these adoptees are being objectified which is the basis of asian fetish. the problem with adoption is that people doing the adoption are trying to prevent any negative information from getting out regarding the process. You can see this issue in the edit warring going on the International Adoption and other related pages. Tkguy ( talk) 00:16, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you know if there's any way to assess the quality of a list? I recently created a list that will likely be fully expanded very shortly. Maser ( Talk!) 09:24, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
This comment is unacceptable. See WP:CIVIL. Comment on the content, not the contributers. 09:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Tkguy just threatened me about violating the 3RR rule, which I find rather confusing. Do you always get blocked for violating 3RR? Doesn't every edit virtually "undo the actions of other editors?" Also, I don't know how the reversions are counted. It means I can revert 3 times every 24 hours right? While I did revert 4 times in the past 24 hours (blocked), I also reverted 6 times in the past 48 hours (okay?). What will happen? миражinred 01:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
You're quite right - I was half-asleep and didn't realise that the DRV was only opened yesterday. Honest mistake. I've reverted myself. Walton One 23:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Merge is complete. [3] -- The Fat Man Who Never Came Back ( talk) 09:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Please remove your personal attack on me from the talk page and post an apology otherwise I will start the arbitration process. Tkguy ( talk) 02:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your participation in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate that landed on WP:100, but ultimately was deemed a successful declaration of consensus, and I am now an admin. I definitely paid close attention to everything that was said in the debate, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holidays and all the off-wiki distractions. I'm working my way through the Wikipedia:New admin school, carefully double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools, with my main goals being to help out with various backlogs. I sincerely doubt you'll see anything controversial coming from my new access level. :) I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are a few more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status. If you do ever have any concerns about my activities as an administrator, I encourage you to let me know. My door is always open. Have a good new year, -- El on ka 03:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
You commented on Dec 23rd on this talkpage's RfC. [4] I wonder if you would clarify which you response. You commented "Agree with Crum375. The council didn't find what the article claims they found. We're drawing new conclusions, and it's a SYNTH problem." It would be helpful if you quoted the text from the article that you feel doesn't reflect the what the council found. Thanks. Anthon01 ( talk) 16:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Cool Hand Luke. The article is literally days away from being unprotected so I wanted you to see my draft at my sandbox. I was wondering if this draft can be used after the article becomes unprotected. Other users provided feedback on the talk page. I hope you would do so, too. Also, if you see anything that should be improved, please feel free to edit it. Thanks. миражinred ( speak, my child...) 19:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I have issued a request for arbitration case involving you. See Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Unfettered_Personal_Attacks,_Bullying,_and_Stalking_on_Asian_fetish. Tkguy ( talk) 08:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I know from your efforts at WP:SPLICE that you're one of the move repairers-in-chief, and I was wondering if you could assist in what I reckon is a small GFDL violation.
Category:Getrag transmissions was created some time in 2005, and existed for about two years. Then, late last year, another user created the duplicate Category:GETRAG transmissions instead of going to WP:CfD to get the original renamed. He depopulated the original category ( here, here), and here, and I noticed yesterday that the "empty" original category had since been deleted per WP:CSD#C1.
I asked the deleting admin to restore and merge the cats' histories, as I felt that we were obliged by the GFDL to attribute the category's creation to the original author ( User:Sfoskett), but he declined to do so. I wasn't sure if WP:SPLICE covered stuff like this, so I thought I'd come here first and get a more experienced hand with such issues to confirm (or allay) my concerns. -- DeLarge ( talk) 11:49, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, but {{ db-redirmisnomer}} is for useless redirects, no? What I wanted to do is to move a page to a proper title when the target page already has a history. Another admin has told me to use {{ db-histmerge}} on the target article to get it deleted, to then move the article in the normal way. I did not know If the new title is just a redirect to the old title, with just one line in the page history, then you can move the page in the normal way. I know it for the next time, but now in these articles the history pages have more than one line, and as you removed the db-histmerge tags, can you move these two articles please:
-Thanks. Siba ( talk) 12:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Anyway, I really don't know enough about Mitt Romney to edit. Your arguments sounded good to me. Let me know if you need me to undo any damage I did in reverting to the "stable version." Thanks. TableManners C· U· T 05:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I am edit warring? This is once again where the expression the "pot calling the kettle black" comes in. And adding that WP:NOR in the WP:LEAD just because some 3rr blocked person calls Asian fetish a slang? Where's your source for this? Talk pages are not sources. Tkguy ( talk) 05:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I request oversight of personal information of a user on their talk page on their behalf. Someone oversighted the revision, without removing the text, can you fix it? I think you can figure out what needs to be removed.-- Crossmr ( talk) 06:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Please do not bandwagon an ongoing attempt to editwar. 'Outbreak' is the official term and is used in all the references. It is not the same as a cluster. Guido den Broeder ( talk) 18:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Whatever our different perspectives in the past, I just wanted to let you know that I think you are a very fine editor and admin and that I admire you for that. Thank you for always keeping a cool head in the midst of discord and for encouraging others to do so as well. Qworty ( talk) 20:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Cool Hand Luke, thank you so much for your input at the RfC. As a result of a heated edit war the talk page became really big in a short amount of time, so I just archived Asian fetish (already on archive13) along with the RfC. I wasn't sure if I could just get rid of the RfC template on my own. What do you do with an old RfC? Should it be put back from the archive? миражinred ( speak, my child...) 02:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for repairing my mess up there. Having been notified, I was on my way to do it when I discovered it already underway. I appreciate it. :) -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
IMHO you were out of place in deleting Travis Cleveland's stuff while retaining equally soapboxy/hateful stuff in close proximity to it. For example, these are still there:
Some of us agree with Cleveland that "This entire article reads like a raving liberal rant about her being evil,..." In fact, I would say that any objective reader would agree with that general principle, if not with those exact words.
I have noticed that Andyvphil seems to think of himself as the arbiter of what should be in this article. I hope that others don't take the same attitude about the talk page. Lou Sander ( talk) 03:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm a bit surprised by your comment that only Overstock.com and it's "agents" are opposed to illegal naked short selling and seeking to end it.
Here are a few more for you to consider:
...and many, many more.
The extreme irony is, Gary Weiss is just about the only person willing to go on the record in favor of this form of fraudulent stock trading. You didn't know that because his is the only view allowed here on Wikipedia.
I guarantee you, if you're open to learning a little more, you'll be among the many, many Wikipedians scratching their heads over the day-is-night approach to truth that this place has adopted under the influence of Weiss.-- Post Doctorate y-o-y ( talk) 06:34, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
You missed my point. I just gave you the names of about 1,200 people who wstrongly disagree with Gary Weiss and his support of fraudulent stock trading. By your logic, if any of them should edit Wikipedia accordingly, they qualify as Wordbomb meatpuppets. What I'm telling you is that Weiss/Samiharris are the black sheep on this topic, yet this place would have the world believe otherwise. And because I've said as much, I suspect I'll be getting banned here soon, too. Nice chatting with you.-- Post Doctorate y-o-y ( talk) 07:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Luke, I think it is more than a little unseemly to have the talk page of an administrator used as a forum for yet another Weiss-obsessed SPA. Yes, I know, the fact that he walks like WordBomb, talks like WordBomb, and spews like WordBomb, does not in any way, shape or form make him a WordBomb meatpuppet, God forbid! But I would expect better from an administrator in terms of proper use of his or her talk page.-- Samiharris ( talk) 16:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
And with that ↑↑↑↑↑(!) I suppose I rest my case. No...allow me to add one more point. With that, the defense rests. -- Post Doctorate y-o-y ( talk) 06:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I wish to thank you for being supportive of my effort to regain my adminship. Though it was not successful, your support was still very much appreciated. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. Thank you!-- MONGO 06:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The "problem" is that Post Doctoral Y-O-Y is a confirmed sock of indef blocked user WordBomb. [5] The exchange above consist of contributions of a sock of a user evading his block. Are you going to delete them as per policy? Just wondering.-- Samiharris ( talk) 16:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
The issue is not that it's an SPA, but a blocked user evading a block.
Are you saying you think that blocked users should be continue to allowed to evade their block, as Post Doctoral Y-0-Y did? I thought it was customary to remove posts from blocked or banned users evading their blocks. I am not sure why you are making an exception for WordBomb.
Also I am curious about the edit summary you used here [6]. I have no problem with your blanking his talk page, but I did not ask you to do that or say that I had a "problem" with that particular exchange of posts. In my comment above, I was talking about his exchange with you, where he uses the usual WordBomb innuendo. Why did you delete the exchange I didn't mention while not deleting the one I did mention?-- Samiharris ( talk) 17:51, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I hear you, but the practice of removing edits by indef blocked users applies to all Wiki space, including user pages. User talk space is not exempted. That is why I was curious why you, as an administrator expected to set an example, would let your user page be used as a forum by this blocked user. I understand your explanation, I just don't think it is consistent with standard practice on edits by blocked users.-- Samiharris ( talk) 20:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Here is the policy on reversion of edits by banned user. [7] WordBomb, as permanently blocked, is "effectively considered to have been banned by the community" under WP:BLOCK. Enforcing bans by removing edits is certainly something that Wikipedians do every day, and in my view your failure to do so is tantamount to giving a platform to a particularly vicious troll.
But more importantly, his post above runs afoul of BLP, which applies to user talk pages as you know, as well as NPA as regards to me. That would have been the case no matter who had posted that stuff, and the fact that it is a blocked user just makes it more conspicuous. No, I do not believe that the contributions of WordBomb can help to "build an encyclopedia" and I am a bit surprised that you do.-- Samiharris ( talk) 20:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)