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I had thought that you were uninterested in economic history until I read your excellent synopsis in response to that sweeping question on the reference desk. You never cease to amaze me, Clio! I am currently reading up on the Great Depression (right now I am on Kindleberger's book). Your brief survey pulled the threads together and really aided my own understanding. Thank you once more for shedding so much light! Marco polo 14:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, Anastasia, for your very kind words and amusing comparison. I'm also pleased to work with you. By the way, do you know that the most popular hypocoristic form of your name in Russian is Nastya? I imagine it is not used in English because it sounds a lot like "nasty". That's too bad, because this is a very fine name, and quite rare these days. -- Ghirla -трёп- 17:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Too, too funny. Why weren't you teaching history when I had to listen to lectures? (Perhaps the fact that I am the better part of 35 years older than you are might be a contributing factor.) Thanks for the lovely laugh! Bielle 02:56, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your great answer, little Miss Clio! Tower Raven 10:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey Clio Muse (you see i'm beginning to get the hang of this). I'm on the school computer at the moment just to check on answers to my Edward question. Your answer is so, so COOL-its even more than i need; i'm going to knock them out, yea, yea I will!!!! The answers you gave me last term were so good and i got incedible marks--my teacher was really blown away (he told my mum and dad at the end of the summer term that my work was so much better, thoughtful and insightful (dweeb!-LOL) so thanks again, again and again. Can I come here and chat with you sometimes That would be so cool. I would like to ask you a lot more history things if you dont mind, maybe english too. I would really like to speak to you as another girl. Plaese say yes. Yours sincerely, Kathy Kathy Burns 12:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey Clio
Thanks for remembering the quotes and things. I really appreciate it, especially given the extended period you remembered over! Thanks! You say that it's in O'Connor, is this a translation of a book? ΦΙΛ Κ 23:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Sometime perhaps you could cast your learned eye on the above article. Some months ago I checked back through the online archives of the New York Times (which was at the time the only archive I had online access to look for citations) to show (on the talk page) that the term was a well known one during and after World War 1, not just some POV screed of an editor, and that Invasion of Belgium would not be an appropriate replacement title. The familiar Rape of Nanking similarly has been redirected to Nanking Massacre, but Belgium Massacre would be far from the mark to describe the extended harsh occupation and collective punishment to which Belgium was subjected. As is, the main page of the article still has only one reference and 2 external links, one of which is broken. I cited 8 uses from the World War 1 period, in the New York Times, of the "Rape of Belgium" in the talk page, but it looks strange to document events in a long ago war in the main page with ancient citations from only one source. I found one modern book, Zuckerman (2004)cited on the talk page. To be encyclopedic, such an article would benefit from modern scholarship, and I know no better modern scholar of history than you. In wartime, it is pretty common for each side to characterize the enemy as baby-eating barbarians, but was there special brutality in the treatment of Belgians by the invading Germans, did it violate the then-accepted rules of war, and if so why? What, if anything, had the Belgians ever done to irritate the Germans (such as invading Germany sometime previously and behaving badly, similar to the German behavior in Russia causing a lust for vengeance among the Russians? Did the Germans see the Belgians as being somehow an "inferior race" as was used to justift WW2 atrocities? Is it now regarded as a greater evil for the Germans to have shot Edith Cavell than for the allies to have shot Mata Hari? Did the Germans behave similarly toward people in other territory they invaded in WW1 and other conflicts of the late 19th early 20th century? Did other WW1 combatants treat civiilians better in occupied territory (There is the U.S. actions in the Phillipines, or Sherman in the U.S. Civil War, the British actions in the Boer War, perhaps Belgian actions toward inhabitants of the Congo, French actions toward??? See also Collective punishment. No rush on this- just something for the back burner. If you prefer, I could post it in the Ref Desk to broaden the readership and base of scholarship, but I am basically seeking referenced NPOV article improvement rather than information to satisfy my own curiosity or a soapboxy debate on Ref Desk. Regards. Edison 04:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Clio. I take it you and Johnny will not be dating anytime soon? Seriously though, I missed the "a place for rats and loonies" first time around. Subtle as it may be, I'm sure the implication there is not lost on the individuals in question, making it a bit too close to WP:NPA. Just a friendly notice... Rockpocke t 02:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I saw a question on the language desk that I bet you'd have a good answer to. Here it is (not posted by me, but go to the language desk and answer!):
Who was the first King of England to have used English as his first (or most usual) language?
I have heard that it was Richard II, Henry IV or Henry V but cannot find a reference in my earlier reading. Now I can't find it in wikipedia.
-- Cody.Pope 15:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Clio. Thanks for your words of kind praise for my tomatoes. And of course I don't mind you asking. The answer's No, on the face of it my rap was modern languages. Xn4 21:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Remember this question? If you are still interesed heres the map: de:Bild:Haarfarbe.jpg-- Tresckow 21:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Right back atcha. -- SB_Johnny | PA! 10:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I really like your stuff on the reference desk. You always manage to be informative and original. Irishbard 18:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I saw your answer at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Mussolini's corpse, and I was wondering what you know about the history of the burial of English and British monarchs, and in particular their hearts, shall we say, going wandering? I added a bit there, but was wondering if you could add any more? Carcharoth 01:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
In the immortal words of Flanders & Swan -
How's your library? -- Dweller 13:46, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
You really are special.
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The Special Barnstar | |
From me for being the person you are. You have given me so much simple pleasure. Fred said right 14:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC) |
Ah, no, that other Muse must have been dark, not fair! Xn4 01:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Good morning, Clio. Would you mind having a look and letting me know whatever it is that comes to mind? Feel free to use email or irc if you'd prefer (#wikiversity-en will find you surrounded by "custodians"). -- SB_Johnny | PA! 15:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello, wonderful Clio. It's me, Kathy. Almost finished my work on Edward I thanks to your brilliant answer to my question. Can I ask you another? You dont like Braveheart. is that because the history is bad. I don't like it much myself but I did not know too much about what really went on. My dad says its tosh though he cant really tell me why he says that. So Kathy turns to you, as always. You know I really LOVE your user page. The pictures and stuff are really great. I'd love to put that poster of the red headed (godess?) (MY hair is red-LOL) on my page but i don't know how. Can you do it for me? Lots of love from Kathy. Ooops, nearly forgot the silly squiggles!!! Kathy Burns 12:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Clio, thank you for your prompt response to my request for information. Whereas Wikipedia, Wikibooks, and Wiktionary are all aimed at converging to high quality reference information in standard book or text formats Wikiversity is aimed at using the wiki and other internet technologies to establish learning communities and activities. The classrooms, student unions, dorm or faculty lounges, labs, exercise sets, study groups, etc. that brick and mortar schools of all levels find so useful and beneficial for the advancement of learners and faculty. A place to hang out with friends, peers, and mentors while learning. Perhaps after we develop some workable forum formats or grow some focus groups of interest to yourself you will find Wikiversity a more atttractive place to excercise your intellect, at the moment it is very sparse and hard to find subject matter, activities, and people well matched to specific individual tastes or requirements. This statement from your personal page: "I cannot tell you just how many simple errors I have discovered, and the quality of 'collective writing' is in many cases quite atrocious. Hence the reference desk, where no-one can butcher what I write, and where I act as a guide and a mentor. Long may it continue." ... leads me to believe that once Wikiversity has learning communities established in areas of personal interest to you; and has developed good methods of using the wiki and other technologies for groups or teams to interact effectively around given subjects and materials; that you may find our virtual environment of interest and benefit. I hope you will wander by every six months or so and run a quick search on areas or topics of interest or drill down from the main menu to see if we have hit critical mass in areas of personal interest. Thanks again for your candid feedback. mirwin @ wikiversity —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.110.62.190 ( talk) 03:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
...faute de mieux at the time, were my interim attempt at "servicing" the usual RDs (L&H), all the while thinking, "Gee, I hope Clio will come along..." At present I'm barely two months along in convalescence, having sustained some injuries in one of Israel's all-too-common, senseless road accidents. I'm on crutches, doing lots of physiotherapy while learning to live with a fractured femur fixed to a titanium nail, while regretfully restricted from lengthy sessions at the computer that are mainly devoted to income-producing translation efforts on behalf of my small but faithful coterie of regular clients. So as I sneak a Wikipeek now and then, surfacing on your User talk page is certainly in order! I greet you warmly at the New Year (Jewish and academic, though you're past the point of enrolling - but are you teaching, perhaps?!), with best wishes for health, happiness, and intellectual fulfillment! -- Cheers, Deborahjay 11:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Please, I think you know about Japanese history. I have questions please I would like answer on Humanities. Thank you Clio. K Limura 01:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey there, Clio. Are you, by any chance, a Sloane Ranger? You certainly give me that impression. Hope you don't mind the question. Bloody awful colonial cheek! Barnie X 16:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Here below is copy of a statement I made on the talk page of Alison which I also wish to make public here. Clio the Muse 08:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
My dear, dear Alison. You do not know me and only found out about you, and the troubles you have faced, in the course of a discussion with Rockpocket on my talk page. Anyway, my name, my real name, is Anastasia, though I sign here as Clio the Muse. I am English and in my early twenties, currently based at the University of Cambridge. I am a historian and recently completed my doctoral dissertation, which will be turned into a book-my first-in the course of this coming year. The work I do here on Wikipedia, for casual amusement in the main, is on the Humanities Desk, where I answer any history-related questions. I mention all this just by way of general introduction.
Shortly after I joined Wikipedia last October I, too, was the subject of bullying and harrassment by a user who became increasingly obsessive in his behaviour towards me. He is now banned, though he carried his campaign on for a time at Wikiversity with an almost complete, no, sorry, a complete lack of restraint. To begin with his 'attentions' upset me to the point where I considered giving up altogether, especially as one or two other little 'jackels' started to snap at my heels. But I am bloody-minded and I am stubborn. I decided that being here, not retreating, not giving way was the best victory I could ever have. I have no wish to go into details but I treated the person in question, whom I would rather not even name, with silent contempt, driving him even madder in the process. I did not, though, have the additional burden with which you have struggled so bravely. I do not think I have ever felt such depth of admiration for another woman that I feel for you at this point in time. I'm sorry if that sounds a bit gushing; but for once the cool, the icey Clio, Clio the intellectual and the dragon slayer, is giving way to her deepest feelings.
At first I wasn't sure if I should contact you at all simply because we have never come across one another, and I know nothing of the particular background. I only know now because of Rockpocket's involvement in the ArbCom ( I asked him why I hadn't seen him around for a while). Anyway, I struggled with this for several hours before deciding that I really had to write to you, and to make my statement public in this fashion. I hope you do not consider this presumptious of me. Your courage, your determination, your honesty and your spirit overwhelm me-and that is no exaggeration or figure of speech-to the point where, for the first time in my life, I truly want to call another woman sister. If I can ever assist you in any way please do let me know. With all the love and positive thoughts I can possibly muster. Much love from Anastasia ♥ Clio the Muse 08:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Interesting selection there! Do you think Margaret Thatcher admires the Pankhursts? Christabel, according to my history textbook, was a bit of a nuisance. Though I suppose ultimately she got her way. What about Millicent Fawcett, do you admire her?
Genuine interest and absolutely no criticism whatsoever on my part. Biofoundationsoflanguage 18:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
That was a kind thought, thank you!
Xn4
02:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I imagine you have access to a full version of the OED. What does it say about the origins of the term "press-up". I was surprised to see a referenced notation at Press up dating its origins to "1945-50" - it occurred to me that perhaps that's the earliest occurrence in American literature, but that's just me speculating. -- Dweller 14:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
OK. No worries, thanks -- Dweller 08:38, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Thought you'd like to see this Wikipedia_talk:Reference_desk#Humanities. Clio is now the 2nd most prolific contributor! martianlostinspace email me 09:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I feel rather deeply for George Bowling, as we share the lake. Mine has glow-worms in the long grass... Xn4 02:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
It seems that someone from Danville, California recently made changes to an old post by this user. A.Z. 02:52, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Clio, girl, I hope you don't mind me calling you a Sloane? Barnie X 03:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Clio, cool Clio!!! I got an A+ for my essay on Edward I. Can you believe it, can you believe it???? LOL. You are wonderful-thanks, thanks, thanks. (also for the picture of the redhead-sorry to have taken so long to get back to you. ive been busy, busy). My class will be moving on to the English reformation soon. I will come to you for any help i need. You dont mind do you? Lots pf love. As ever, Kathy Burns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathy Burns ( talk • contribs) 18:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello. Can you remember where the information here comes from? The Russian reports would be especially useful for fixing up the article. Many thanks in advance, Angus McLellan (Talk) 08:42, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
A pertickler fine bit you up'n added to Death in the Middle Ages, sez Br'er Four, sezee. Xn4 23:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
You didn't persuade me and you didn't not persuade me yet ;) I'm still thinking it through, to see where we might agree and where we might disagree. I'll leave you a message when I've finished thinking :) A ecis Brievenbus 22:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I think my browser was the odd one out in making the sig look normal size. Here's what I see:
Thank you for pointing out its hugeness when rendered by other browsers. - Nunh-huh 00:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Oooh what a good answer. Why didn't I write that? lol Never mind Mourinho, the Humanities RD knows who "The Special One" is. -- Dweller 09:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Clio. I saw that in your user page and I'd like to hear your opinion about this bloke, of course, if you have the time :) Thanks. -- Taraborn 23:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
This is one of my favorite section titles... evah! Rockpocke t 22:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's an article begging from any attention you'd spare it. Even to add a couple of the best books on the subject for Further reading. -- Wetman 21:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I hadn't come across Baldwin's "a cad and a wrong 'un" before. If he said it after 1938, then he could also have been thinking of Spode. An actor called John Turner plays him brilliantly in Jeeves and Wooster. Not to be missed! Xn4 23:55, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Clio the Muse,
Hello. I saw your answer to a question posted on September 25, 2007. It was question 1.5 Boer Sympathizers. Your response was posted the next day at 1:35. I am researching a similar topic for my senior thesis. I am looking at German involvement in the Anglo-Boer War. Do you happen to recall any of the books or essays you used to generate your answer? If you do recall any, could you please let me know. It would be helpful to my research. Thank you.
Victorian85 01:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)Victorian85
Thank you! Victorian85 02:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Just dropped by to see what's been going on in your world and I noticed the heading "Yawn" and read the link at Wikiversity. I keep wondering in my rough colonial way why someone bothers to put so much effort into being such a no-life loser as that cretin who's been bothering you. This site isn't compulsory viewing and you don't really have to log on or give a damn about it if you don't want to. For those of us who appreciate it, it should be a matter of take or leave it with good grace. You've been very helpful to thousands of people, including me, and if I did disagree with something you wrote, I'd let it slide. After all, you're not being paid for it.
The pattern of initial sycophancy followed by hostility is classic stalker and I'd say your "silent treatment" response is the best. I recommend Gavin deBecker's books on this topic if you have time - he advises the approach you've taken, only more so. (See: The Gift of Fear). Retarius | Talk 05:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Great Muse of History, I wonder if you can help me out. The KBR in Brussels doesn't have a copy of Francis Wormald's English Benedictine Kalendars after A.D.1100 (inevitably it has the no-use-to-me "to A.D. 1100" volume). Cambridge, on the other hand, does have a copy. The catalogue says it is hidining St John's College: First Floor, Classmark BV 170.H4.E51. I'm trying to find a plausible source for the feast date of St Hardulph of Breedon on the Hill (aka, according to David Rollason and others, King Eardwulf of Northumbria). I can find all sorts of tat on the internetsaying 21st August, but the only printed source that seems to contain this is Wormald's book. Apparently it's on or about page 95 (although one would hope that the book comes with an index). If you are passing anywhere near the place that this book is lurking, could you perhaps take a peek and see if St Hardulph's feast day really, truly is 21st August? I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks a million in advance, Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Clio, I just realized how much the humanities refdesk has improved since you frequent it and provide interesting, thoughtful and perfectly quotable answers to an incredible range of history questions. Therefore I grant you the attached tools to aid you in your future work. -- Ferkelparade π 01:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
![]() ![]() I hereby grant you the Scope of Accuracy for accurately answering lots of questions and the Spade of Tireless Research for always digging up the relevant sources. May they aid you in your further work on WP:RD/H -- Ferkelparade π 01:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC) |
Hey, Clio, that's a hot shot bit of number work! Xn4 01:46, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your nice comment on the David Irving question. I am not an expert in the particularities of Irving's case and I felt a better about my feelings on it after you had weighed in as well. I try not to trot out my institutional identity too often on here (and since I don't even use a signed-in account anymore it feels exceptionally silly), but it sounds like we are in somewhat similar professional positions (though I am still finishing up my long American PhD), and edit on here for more or less the same reasons, but in any case, if you are ever over at your city's namesake across the Atlantic and interested in a cup of coffee with a chatty historian of science, please look up whatever IP I am editing with at the moment (usually of the 24.147 variety; my ISP is fairly stable in such things) and get in touch, if you please. -- 24.147.86.187 13:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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I had thought that you were uninterested in economic history until I read your excellent synopsis in response to that sweeping question on the reference desk. You never cease to amaze me, Clio! I am currently reading up on the Great Depression (right now I am on Kindleberger's book). Your brief survey pulled the threads together and really aided my own understanding. Thank you once more for shedding so much light! Marco polo 14:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, Anastasia, for your very kind words and amusing comparison. I'm also pleased to work with you. By the way, do you know that the most popular hypocoristic form of your name in Russian is Nastya? I imagine it is not used in English because it sounds a lot like "nasty". That's too bad, because this is a very fine name, and quite rare these days. -- Ghirla -трёп- 17:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Too, too funny. Why weren't you teaching history when I had to listen to lectures? (Perhaps the fact that I am the better part of 35 years older than you are might be a contributing factor.) Thanks for the lovely laugh! Bielle 02:56, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your great answer, little Miss Clio! Tower Raven 10:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey Clio Muse (you see i'm beginning to get the hang of this). I'm on the school computer at the moment just to check on answers to my Edward question. Your answer is so, so COOL-its even more than i need; i'm going to knock them out, yea, yea I will!!!! The answers you gave me last term were so good and i got incedible marks--my teacher was really blown away (he told my mum and dad at the end of the summer term that my work was so much better, thoughtful and insightful (dweeb!-LOL) so thanks again, again and again. Can I come here and chat with you sometimes That would be so cool. I would like to ask you a lot more history things if you dont mind, maybe english too. I would really like to speak to you as another girl. Plaese say yes. Yours sincerely, Kathy Kathy Burns 12:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey Clio
Thanks for remembering the quotes and things. I really appreciate it, especially given the extended period you remembered over! Thanks! You say that it's in O'Connor, is this a translation of a book? ΦΙΛ Κ 23:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Sometime perhaps you could cast your learned eye on the above article. Some months ago I checked back through the online archives of the New York Times (which was at the time the only archive I had online access to look for citations) to show (on the talk page) that the term was a well known one during and after World War 1, not just some POV screed of an editor, and that Invasion of Belgium would not be an appropriate replacement title. The familiar Rape of Nanking similarly has been redirected to Nanking Massacre, but Belgium Massacre would be far from the mark to describe the extended harsh occupation and collective punishment to which Belgium was subjected. As is, the main page of the article still has only one reference and 2 external links, one of which is broken. I cited 8 uses from the World War 1 period, in the New York Times, of the "Rape of Belgium" in the talk page, but it looks strange to document events in a long ago war in the main page with ancient citations from only one source. I found one modern book, Zuckerman (2004)cited on the talk page. To be encyclopedic, such an article would benefit from modern scholarship, and I know no better modern scholar of history than you. In wartime, it is pretty common for each side to characterize the enemy as baby-eating barbarians, but was there special brutality in the treatment of Belgians by the invading Germans, did it violate the then-accepted rules of war, and if so why? What, if anything, had the Belgians ever done to irritate the Germans (such as invading Germany sometime previously and behaving badly, similar to the German behavior in Russia causing a lust for vengeance among the Russians? Did the Germans see the Belgians as being somehow an "inferior race" as was used to justift WW2 atrocities? Is it now regarded as a greater evil for the Germans to have shot Edith Cavell than for the allies to have shot Mata Hari? Did the Germans behave similarly toward people in other territory they invaded in WW1 and other conflicts of the late 19th early 20th century? Did other WW1 combatants treat civiilians better in occupied territory (There is the U.S. actions in the Phillipines, or Sherman in the U.S. Civil War, the British actions in the Boer War, perhaps Belgian actions toward inhabitants of the Congo, French actions toward??? See also Collective punishment. No rush on this- just something for the back burner. If you prefer, I could post it in the Ref Desk to broaden the readership and base of scholarship, but I am basically seeking referenced NPOV article improvement rather than information to satisfy my own curiosity or a soapboxy debate on Ref Desk. Regards. Edison 04:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Clio. I take it you and Johnny will not be dating anytime soon? Seriously though, I missed the "a place for rats and loonies" first time around. Subtle as it may be, I'm sure the implication there is not lost on the individuals in question, making it a bit too close to WP:NPA. Just a friendly notice... Rockpocke t 02:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I saw a question on the language desk that I bet you'd have a good answer to. Here it is (not posted by me, but go to the language desk and answer!):
Who was the first King of England to have used English as his first (or most usual) language?
I have heard that it was Richard II, Henry IV or Henry V but cannot find a reference in my earlier reading. Now I can't find it in wikipedia.
-- Cody.Pope 15:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Clio. Thanks for your words of kind praise for my tomatoes. And of course I don't mind you asking. The answer's No, on the face of it my rap was modern languages. Xn4 21:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Remember this question? If you are still interesed heres the map: de:Bild:Haarfarbe.jpg-- Tresckow 21:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Right back atcha. -- SB_Johnny | PA! 10:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I really like your stuff on the reference desk. You always manage to be informative and original. Irishbard 18:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I saw your answer at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Mussolini's corpse, and I was wondering what you know about the history of the burial of English and British monarchs, and in particular their hearts, shall we say, going wandering? I added a bit there, but was wondering if you could add any more? Carcharoth 01:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
In the immortal words of Flanders & Swan -
How's your library? -- Dweller 13:46, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
You really are special.
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The Special Barnstar | |
From me for being the person you are. You have given me so much simple pleasure. Fred said right 14:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC) |
Ah, no, that other Muse must have been dark, not fair! Xn4 01:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Good morning, Clio. Would you mind having a look and letting me know whatever it is that comes to mind? Feel free to use email or irc if you'd prefer (#wikiversity-en will find you surrounded by "custodians"). -- SB_Johnny | PA! 15:36, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello, wonderful Clio. It's me, Kathy. Almost finished my work on Edward I thanks to your brilliant answer to my question. Can I ask you another? You dont like Braveheart. is that because the history is bad. I don't like it much myself but I did not know too much about what really went on. My dad says its tosh though he cant really tell me why he says that. So Kathy turns to you, as always. You know I really LOVE your user page. The pictures and stuff are really great. I'd love to put that poster of the red headed (godess?) (MY hair is red-LOL) on my page but i don't know how. Can you do it for me? Lots of love from Kathy. Ooops, nearly forgot the silly squiggles!!! Kathy Burns 12:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Clio, thank you for your prompt response to my request for information. Whereas Wikipedia, Wikibooks, and Wiktionary are all aimed at converging to high quality reference information in standard book or text formats Wikiversity is aimed at using the wiki and other internet technologies to establish learning communities and activities. The classrooms, student unions, dorm or faculty lounges, labs, exercise sets, study groups, etc. that brick and mortar schools of all levels find so useful and beneficial for the advancement of learners and faculty. A place to hang out with friends, peers, and mentors while learning. Perhaps after we develop some workable forum formats or grow some focus groups of interest to yourself you will find Wikiversity a more atttractive place to excercise your intellect, at the moment it is very sparse and hard to find subject matter, activities, and people well matched to specific individual tastes or requirements. This statement from your personal page: "I cannot tell you just how many simple errors I have discovered, and the quality of 'collective writing' is in many cases quite atrocious. Hence the reference desk, where no-one can butcher what I write, and where I act as a guide and a mentor. Long may it continue." ... leads me to believe that once Wikiversity has learning communities established in areas of personal interest to you; and has developed good methods of using the wiki and other technologies for groups or teams to interact effectively around given subjects and materials; that you may find our virtual environment of interest and benefit. I hope you will wander by every six months or so and run a quick search on areas or topics of interest or drill down from the main menu to see if we have hit critical mass in areas of personal interest. Thanks again for your candid feedback. mirwin @ wikiversity —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.110.62.190 ( talk) 03:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
...faute de mieux at the time, were my interim attempt at "servicing" the usual RDs (L&H), all the while thinking, "Gee, I hope Clio will come along..." At present I'm barely two months along in convalescence, having sustained some injuries in one of Israel's all-too-common, senseless road accidents. I'm on crutches, doing lots of physiotherapy while learning to live with a fractured femur fixed to a titanium nail, while regretfully restricted from lengthy sessions at the computer that are mainly devoted to income-producing translation efforts on behalf of my small but faithful coterie of regular clients. So as I sneak a Wikipeek now and then, surfacing on your User talk page is certainly in order! I greet you warmly at the New Year (Jewish and academic, though you're past the point of enrolling - but are you teaching, perhaps?!), with best wishes for health, happiness, and intellectual fulfillment! -- Cheers, Deborahjay 11:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Please, I think you know about Japanese history. I have questions please I would like answer on Humanities. Thank you Clio. K Limura 01:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey there, Clio. Are you, by any chance, a Sloane Ranger? You certainly give me that impression. Hope you don't mind the question. Bloody awful colonial cheek! Barnie X 16:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Here below is copy of a statement I made on the talk page of Alison which I also wish to make public here. Clio the Muse 08:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
My dear, dear Alison. You do not know me and only found out about you, and the troubles you have faced, in the course of a discussion with Rockpocket on my talk page. Anyway, my name, my real name, is Anastasia, though I sign here as Clio the Muse. I am English and in my early twenties, currently based at the University of Cambridge. I am a historian and recently completed my doctoral dissertation, which will be turned into a book-my first-in the course of this coming year. The work I do here on Wikipedia, for casual amusement in the main, is on the Humanities Desk, where I answer any history-related questions. I mention all this just by way of general introduction.
Shortly after I joined Wikipedia last October I, too, was the subject of bullying and harrassment by a user who became increasingly obsessive in his behaviour towards me. He is now banned, though he carried his campaign on for a time at Wikiversity with an almost complete, no, sorry, a complete lack of restraint. To begin with his 'attentions' upset me to the point where I considered giving up altogether, especially as one or two other little 'jackels' started to snap at my heels. But I am bloody-minded and I am stubborn. I decided that being here, not retreating, not giving way was the best victory I could ever have. I have no wish to go into details but I treated the person in question, whom I would rather not even name, with silent contempt, driving him even madder in the process. I did not, though, have the additional burden with which you have struggled so bravely. I do not think I have ever felt such depth of admiration for another woman that I feel for you at this point in time. I'm sorry if that sounds a bit gushing; but for once the cool, the icey Clio, Clio the intellectual and the dragon slayer, is giving way to her deepest feelings.
At first I wasn't sure if I should contact you at all simply because we have never come across one another, and I know nothing of the particular background. I only know now because of Rockpocket's involvement in the ArbCom ( I asked him why I hadn't seen him around for a while). Anyway, I struggled with this for several hours before deciding that I really had to write to you, and to make my statement public in this fashion. I hope you do not consider this presumptious of me. Your courage, your determination, your honesty and your spirit overwhelm me-and that is no exaggeration or figure of speech-to the point where, for the first time in my life, I truly want to call another woman sister. If I can ever assist you in any way please do let me know. With all the love and positive thoughts I can possibly muster. Much love from Anastasia ♥ Clio the Muse 08:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Interesting selection there! Do you think Margaret Thatcher admires the Pankhursts? Christabel, according to my history textbook, was a bit of a nuisance. Though I suppose ultimately she got her way. What about Millicent Fawcett, do you admire her?
Genuine interest and absolutely no criticism whatsoever on my part. Biofoundationsoflanguage 18:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
That was a kind thought, thank you!
Xn4
02:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I imagine you have access to a full version of the OED. What does it say about the origins of the term "press-up". I was surprised to see a referenced notation at Press up dating its origins to "1945-50" - it occurred to me that perhaps that's the earliest occurrence in American literature, but that's just me speculating. -- Dweller 14:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
OK. No worries, thanks -- Dweller 08:38, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Thought you'd like to see this Wikipedia_talk:Reference_desk#Humanities. Clio is now the 2nd most prolific contributor! martianlostinspace email me 09:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I feel rather deeply for George Bowling, as we share the lake. Mine has glow-worms in the long grass... Xn4 02:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
It seems that someone from Danville, California recently made changes to an old post by this user. A.Z. 02:52, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Clio, girl, I hope you don't mind me calling you a Sloane? Barnie X 03:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Clio, cool Clio!!! I got an A+ for my essay on Edward I. Can you believe it, can you believe it???? LOL. You are wonderful-thanks, thanks, thanks. (also for the picture of the redhead-sorry to have taken so long to get back to you. ive been busy, busy). My class will be moving on to the English reformation soon. I will come to you for any help i need. You dont mind do you? Lots pf love. As ever, Kathy Burns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathy Burns ( talk • contribs) 18:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello. Can you remember where the information here comes from? The Russian reports would be especially useful for fixing up the article. Many thanks in advance, Angus McLellan (Talk) 08:42, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
A pertickler fine bit you up'n added to Death in the Middle Ages, sez Br'er Four, sezee. Xn4 23:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
You didn't persuade me and you didn't not persuade me yet ;) I'm still thinking it through, to see where we might agree and where we might disagree. I'll leave you a message when I've finished thinking :) A ecis Brievenbus 22:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I think my browser was the odd one out in making the sig look normal size. Here's what I see:
Thank you for pointing out its hugeness when rendered by other browsers. - Nunh-huh 00:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Oooh what a good answer. Why didn't I write that? lol Never mind Mourinho, the Humanities RD knows who "The Special One" is. -- Dweller 09:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Clio. I saw that in your user page and I'd like to hear your opinion about this bloke, of course, if you have the time :) Thanks. -- Taraborn 23:04, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
This is one of my favorite section titles... evah! Rockpocke t 22:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's an article begging from any attention you'd spare it. Even to add a couple of the best books on the subject for Further reading. -- Wetman 21:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I hadn't come across Baldwin's "a cad and a wrong 'un" before. If he said it after 1938, then he could also have been thinking of Spode. An actor called John Turner plays him brilliantly in Jeeves and Wooster. Not to be missed! Xn4 23:55, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Clio the Muse,
Hello. I saw your answer to a question posted on September 25, 2007. It was question 1.5 Boer Sympathizers. Your response was posted the next day at 1:35. I am researching a similar topic for my senior thesis. I am looking at German involvement in the Anglo-Boer War. Do you happen to recall any of the books or essays you used to generate your answer? If you do recall any, could you please let me know. It would be helpful to my research. Thank you.
Victorian85 01:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)Victorian85
Thank you! Victorian85 02:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Just dropped by to see what's been going on in your world and I noticed the heading "Yawn" and read the link at Wikiversity. I keep wondering in my rough colonial way why someone bothers to put so much effort into being such a no-life loser as that cretin who's been bothering you. This site isn't compulsory viewing and you don't really have to log on or give a damn about it if you don't want to. For those of us who appreciate it, it should be a matter of take or leave it with good grace. You've been very helpful to thousands of people, including me, and if I did disagree with something you wrote, I'd let it slide. After all, you're not being paid for it.
The pattern of initial sycophancy followed by hostility is classic stalker and I'd say your "silent treatment" response is the best. I recommend Gavin deBecker's books on this topic if you have time - he advises the approach you've taken, only more so. (See: The Gift of Fear). Retarius | Talk 05:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Great Muse of History, I wonder if you can help me out. The KBR in Brussels doesn't have a copy of Francis Wormald's English Benedictine Kalendars after A.D.1100 (inevitably it has the no-use-to-me "to A.D. 1100" volume). Cambridge, on the other hand, does have a copy. The catalogue says it is hidining St John's College: First Floor, Classmark BV 170.H4.E51. I'm trying to find a plausible source for the feast date of St Hardulph of Breedon on the Hill (aka, according to David Rollason and others, King Eardwulf of Northumbria). I can find all sorts of tat on the internetsaying 21st August, but the only printed source that seems to contain this is Wormald's book. Apparently it's on or about page 95 (although one would hope that the book comes with an index). If you are passing anywhere near the place that this book is lurking, could you perhaps take a peek and see if St Hardulph's feast day really, truly is 21st August? I'd be eternally grateful. Thanks a million in advance, Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Clio, I just realized how much the humanities refdesk has improved since you frequent it and provide interesting, thoughtful and perfectly quotable answers to an incredible range of history questions. Therefore I grant you the attached tools to aid you in your future work. -- Ferkelparade π 01:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
![]() ![]() I hereby grant you the Scope of Accuracy for accurately answering lots of questions and the Spade of Tireless Research for always digging up the relevant sources. May they aid you in your further work on WP:RD/H -- Ferkelparade π 01:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC) |
Hey, Clio, that's a hot shot bit of number work! Xn4 01:46, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your nice comment on the David Irving question. I am not an expert in the particularities of Irving's case and I felt a better about my feelings on it after you had weighed in as well. I try not to trot out my institutional identity too often on here (and since I don't even use a signed-in account anymore it feels exceptionally silly), but it sounds like we are in somewhat similar professional positions (though I am still finishing up my long American PhD), and edit on here for more or less the same reasons, but in any case, if you are ever over at your city's namesake across the Atlantic and interested in a cup of coffee with a chatty historian of science, please look up whatever IP I am editing with at the moment (usually of the 24.147 variety; my ISP is fairly stable in such things) and get in touch, if you please. -- 24.147.86.187 13:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)