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This bot helpfully hyphenates some CS1 parameters that are now discouraged, such as |accessdate=
, but it appears to miss |authorlink=
. See
this diff for an example (|authorlink=
is left untouched).
The six remaining parameters that should be hyphenated are |accessdate=
, |airdate=
, |archivedate=
, |archiveurl=
, |authorlink=
, and |origyear=
. They should be changed to |access-date=
, |air-date=
, |archive-date=
, |archive-url=
, |author-link=
, and |orig-year=
, respectively. Thanks. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
16:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
|ref=harv
from {{
cite iucn}},
like this, to avoid making a cosmetic edit. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
21:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
publisher=
to work=
, which means it's italicized.
|website=
, which takes italics. The name of the website is BBC News. Likewise NBC News. So no, it's not flat out incorrect, neither is it a bug. --
Izno (
talk)
22:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
|publisher=
The New York Times
shouldn't be |work=
The New York Times
in context. In the case at hand, |work=
is trivially preferable. --
Izno (
talk)
05:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
MOS:ITALICWEBCITE and WP:CITALICSRFC are both relevent and for now I have set new runs to not do that for now. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 02:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
This is considered to be not a bug and the general belief is that it is a good edit. People want the ID links so they can choose where they are going too. The URL field holds a special primacy. The bot used to removed links when moving them, but many editors love title links.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
12:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
http://hdl.handle.net/2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46?urlappend=%3Bseq=228
→ 2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46?urlappend=%3Bseq=228
→ 2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46
doi
, for example, have to seek through the source to the proper place; no reason why hdl
should be different.|hdl=
identifier typically looks like. Here is one of your Hathi Trust urls:
2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46
is the |hdl=
identifier; it points to the online resource:
{{hdl|1=2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46}}
→
hdl:
2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46?urlappend=%3Bseq=228
, is a
query string; part of the url but not part of the identifier.|doi=
identifiers are often just as unsightlyas
|hdl=
identifiers:
doi:
10.3389/fphys.2019.00944 yet they are very commonly used – look at any scientific or medical article. |doi=
doesn't support query strings so clicking a |doi=
identifier will get the reader to the online source be it a journal article, an encyclopedia entry, a book chapter, a whatever. The reader then has to seek through the article, entry, chapter, whatever, to get to the text that supports an en.wiki article (in aid of which we have |page=
, |pages=
, |at=
in-source-locator parameters).|url=
when it creates the identifier. Alternately, we can tweak cs1|2 so that it would suppress query-string display when a query string is attached to the |hdl=
identifier.{{cite book |title=Title |hdl=2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46?urlappend=%3Bseq=228}}
CrossRef data is messed up for this:
<crossref_result xmlns="http://www.crossref.org/qrschema/2.0" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" version="2.0" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.crossref.org/qrschema/2.0 https://www.crossref.org/schema/crossref_query_output2.0.xsd"> <query_result> <head> <doi_batch_id>none</doi_batch_id> </head> <body> <query status="resolved" fl_count="1"> <doi type="journal_article">10.1515/angl.1959.1959.77.117</doi> <issn type="print">0340-5222</issn> <issn type="electronic">1865-8938</issn> <journal_title>Anglia - Zeitschrift für englische Philologie</journal_title> <contributors> <contributor sequence="first" contributor_role="author"> <given_name>R. E.</given_name> <surname>KASKE</surname> </contributor> </contributors> <volume>1959</volume> <issue>77</issue> <year>1959</year> <article_title>THE SPEECH OF “BOOK” IN PIERS PLOWMAN</article_title> </query> </body> </query_result> </crossref_result>
AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 00:27, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Jstor lists it is an issue/number (that does not make it right):
TY - JOUR TI - "Sì si conserva il seme d'ogne giusto": (Purg. XXXII, 48) AU - Kaske, R. E. C1 - Full publication date: 1971 DB - JSTOR EP - 54 IS - 89 PB - Johns Hopkins University Press PY - 1971 SN - 00702862 SP - 49 T2 - Dante Studies, with the Annual Report of the Dante Society UR - http://www.jstor.org/stable/40166090 Y2 - 2021/03/27/ ER -
AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 00:31, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Incidentally, I was briefly browsing other bug reports after submitting this, and noticed this one, which suggests that using last1 rather than last might be a defect. I've no opinion on this, but it might be useful to link these. NormanGray ( talk) 10:22, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
|issue=Online First
to the citation
See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Citation_bot_"fixing"_non-deprecated_parameters. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 16:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
The ISBN added for Beaverbrook's Decline and Fall of Lloyd George is false. It returns no results on Amazon or ISBNsearch, and anyway a 1963 edition, which is the edition citred, would not have an ISBN anyway.
DuncanHill (
talk)
12:21, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
|language=
param.
|language=Croatian
should be recognized
Headbomb {
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14:45, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
|language=<anything other than English>
should imply "don't touch the title" (IIRC, German and French titles, to name two examples, aren't capitalized either). On the other hand, |trans-title=
is always fair game, I suppose. If |language=
is missing, it is OK to assume language is English, even if there are many instances where it actually isn't.
GregorB (
talk)
10:18, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
That is very picky, but I do agree with you. Fixing that might be harder than it is worth, but I will think about it.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
<ref>
/ </ref>
pairs, and " }}</ref>
" breaking the ref there makes it harder. I'd be very happy if Citation bot could be induced to avoid the situation reported by Robert. —
JohnFromPinckney (
talk)
02:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Not really a bug, more a report that, while the error message is a big improvement on the previous just sit and sulk, the response could be better. Suggestion is for a better explanation. --
John Maynard Friedman (
talk)
18:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
See
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Citation bot "fixing" non-deprecated parameters and all related discussions around these parameters. At the moment, these parameters are accepted variations and should not be replaced by any bot. They are not included in the AWB parameter replacement list, so no idea why Citation bot does this.
Fram (
talk)
08:26, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
affect something visible to readers and consumers of Wikipedia. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 14:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
frankly i am confused after reading "
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Citation bot "fixing" non-deprecated parameters". just heads up.
Gi vi an (
talk)
13:16, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Will add to same code that TNT's titles that end with "on jstor" etc.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
12:55, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
|volume=in press
and similar? Or is that the same code?
Headbomb {
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13:30, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
I get this error sometimes as well. I think it may indicate that the bot is too busy. Usually if I wait for half an hour or so, it starts working again. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
23:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
I added a note above and on the main page. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 12:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
{{ fixed}} for now.
Should now remove volume/issue set to n/a when the other one is set to a number.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
"article" is now a magic word.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Headbomb, this isn't about cosmetic changes or not. This is about changing one preference to another, which isn't allowed no matter if the edit contains another substantial change or not. Both versions are accepted, and no bot should change from one version to another (in either direction). Allowed cosmetic bits in substantial edits are things which still work but where there is agreement that one version should be removed. For these, it has been rather explicitly decided that these changes should not be done (and certainly not by bot). I thought this had been laid to rest by now, but apparently not. Fram ( talk) 10:39, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
How do I split large categories in smaller parts a 2500 items for use with Citation bot's category?
{{ wontfix}} AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 01:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Is anyone else having issues running the bot today. It isn't working for me today, maybe it's just my device JamCor ( talk) 17:46, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok thanks JamCor ( talk) 19:00, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes please do because mine has stopped working again JamCor ( talk) 14:36, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Despite Deadman137 stopping his massive category runs and no one using the bot for a long time, it still isn't working for me. JamCor ( talk) 15:56, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
For some reason it has started again so need to worry JamCor ( talk) 16:12, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
I know it's not the same thing, but while you're waiting for Citation bot to come back you can try and use https://oabot.toolforge.org/ ! Citations need more tender loving care from many fronts. :) Nemo 14:36, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
{{ fixed}} I hope. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 01:36, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Often times I will see people use{{Cite web}}
when citing a Tweet, Instagram post, YouTube video, etc. There are specific citation templates that can be substituted such as {{Cite tweet}}
, {{Cite instagram}}
, or {{Cite youtube}}
, that correspond to those specific citations. There are likely more that I haven't encountered yet.
{{Cite website|url=https://twitter.com/wikipediauser/status/1234567890|title=wikipedia user on Twitter|access-date=April 30, 2021|last=Doe|first=John|date=March 7, 2007|website=Twitter|quote="Hello from twitter!"}}
Hello from twitter!
{{Cite tweet|user=wikipediauser|number=1234567890|title=Hello from twitter!|date=March 7, 2007|access-date=April 30, 2021|last=Doe|first=John}}
The second is more condensed and generates a more stylized citation. Citation bot could convert these web citations into templates that are more specialized. SWinxy ( talk) 19:56, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I have noticed that this bot has been adding "chapter-url" to a number of reference but the actual url being used is not for the chapter page but for the front page of the book, which means that it is incorrect. For example:
[1], in the article
Battle of Leckmelm, among others.
QuintusPetillius (
talk)
19:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I need to clean roughly a dozen or so of this every month, all added by the bot.
Headbomb {
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11:23, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
{{
cite magazine}}
and |magazine=
; not {{
cite news}}
and |journal=
.Hi!
It has almost 5 months that this draft: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Donkervoort_D8 was created and it wasn't made a decision to move it to main articles or not. The references show significant information about it. Please decide for this page wherever will be moved to main articles.
Thank you NSHPUZA ( talk) 11:50, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
For the past couple of days I have not been able to run this bot at all. Either I am dropped into an endless loop, or I get repeats of an unhelpful message, "503 Service Not Available", which apparently means the server is overloaded. Does this mean the server is busy on what it regards as priority matters? If that is the case, then someone told the servers to give content building the lowest priority. This is a serious disruption to content building. Is that Foundation policy? What happened to the money donated to the Foundation for things like maintaining servers? — Epipelagic ( talk) 23:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
The bot isn't working for me today it's taking ages to load way longer than usual JamCor ( talk) 07:58, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
It's not working at all for me still JamCor ( talk) 13:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Why is the bot removing SemanticScholar links which were already fixed with an archive URL? Please stop and revert immediately. I thought this kind of de-linking had stopped months ago. Nemo 10:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
{{ notabug}} thank you for investigating. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 11:04, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
The title is all capital letters. Or at least PHP thinks that it is. I have added some code to check for non-ASCII characters and not blow it away and retry in such cases.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
|script-title=
anyway.
Izno (
talk)
22:56, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
These serve no purpose, clutter citations, and will override automated anchors, making citations less editor-friendly.
Headbomb {
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22:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Bot added |last1=Ahuja|first1=Niraj|last2=Niraj|first2=Ahuja when it should have just been |last1=Ahuja|first1=Niraj unless I'm mistaken. --
203.18.34.190 (
talk)
05:49, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
>Remedial work to prepare citations >Consult APIs to expand templates >Using Zotero translation server to retrieve details from URLs. >Expand individual templates by API calls >Checking CrossRef database for doi. >Searching PubMed... !no results. nothing found. >Checking AdsAbs database no record retrieved. >Checking CrossRef database for doi. >Searching PubMed... !no results. nothing found. >Checking AdsAbs database >AdsAbs search 11541/25000: title:"Dutch disease and the Azerbaijan economy" >Remedial work to clean up templates >No changes required.
Seems like they have an API:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/sdfe/arp/cite?pii=S0967067X13000470&format=application%2Fx-research-info-systems&withabstract=false
AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:45, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
I prepared a patch to re-enable Zotero, using the official Citoid API: https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/3732 The tests are passing! Nemo 12:24, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Should cover all of Disease-a-month, Disease-A-Month and Disease-A-month.
Headbomb {
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21:00, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
It's been about 14 months since this script was created, and since its inception it became one of the most imported scripts (currently #54, with 286+ adopters).
Since last year, it's been significantly expanded to cover more bad sources, and is more useful than ever, so I figured it would be a good time to bring up the script up again. This way others who might not know about it can take a look and try it for themselves. I would highly recommend that anyone doing citation work, who writes/expands articles, or does bad-sourcing/BLP cleanup work installs the script.
The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:16, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/commit/0cdfc730f09da06da2a1d9a9cb86dde717154206
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
14:17, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
|publisher=
Google
from material published by Google Inc?security.googleblog.com
domain).I've reverted these and also changed the link to Google Inc. or Google LLC in the hopes of preventing it being removed again, but is there a reason for this? I'm not using the bug template since I suspect this might be classified a deliberate heuristic or "intended behaviour", but thought I'd raise it anyway since it was proving an annoyance, especially when it reached the third time I'd had to revert this exact change.
— HarJIT ( talk) 20:10, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
|website=Google Online Security Blog
and maybe |website=GitHub
, although I'm a little undecided on this one. Anyway, maybe that's what Citation bot was trying to do for us? —
JohnFromPinckney (
talk)
20:52, 19 May 2021 (UTC)In this edit ( [20]), the bot changed a cite-web template for The Economist to cite-journal. The Economist is not an academic journal, so this was in error. — Goszei ( talk) 21:24, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
|newspaper=
.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
12:31, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
|journal=Wiley Online Library
should never be added
The Bot seems to be under higher load recently.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:51, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
|title=none
has title replaced by something else, like |title=Clemency Montelle. Chasing Shadows: Mathematics, Astronomy, and the Early History of Eclipse Reckoning. (Johns Hopkins Studies in the History of Mathematics.) xii + 408 pp., illus., tables, apps., bibls., index. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2011. $75 (Cloth)
(from which you might perhaps guess why title=none was deliberately used)|title=none
indicates that a human has deliberately decided not to include a title here. That decision should be respected and not changed by the bot. Also, in this particular case, the title is not really a title, as can be seen at the JSTOR page for the same citation, which calls it "[UNTITLED]".
|pages=32–0365
can be correct. When I look this one up on the doi database I get "32–0365–32–0365" for the pages, suggesting that it is a single page numbered page 32–0365. Probably the correct value is just |page=365
.
The paper in question is behind a paywall. Impossible to easily know what the pages are. Rejecting pages with dashes in them from CrossRef now.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
21:32, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
It was just bad wikitext.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:33, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
This should apply to 'SIAM Review' and 'SIAM Journal on Computing' only not 'SIAM', because
Siam and
SIAM are both present in journal names.
Headbomb {
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01:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
And I've just come across one
here where website=BBC Sport, which seems correct to me, was changed to work. Doesn't seem particularly consistent? cheers,
Struway2 (
talk)
09:41, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
|publisher=''The Daily Whatever''
to help human editors make newspapers display in italics. In the real world, the BBC's sport website really isn't a newspaper. Imposing an unintuitive alias looks like a backward step. cheers,
Struway2 (
talk)
15:55, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
The bot has made an incomprehensible change to a citation in the section:
/info/en/?search=RECOVERY_Trial#Convalescent_plasma
and is now showing several hundred lines of gibberish under Authors.
Permanent link to the page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=RECOVERY_Trial&oldid=1026144634
I will be reverting, thanks.
Hallucegenia (
talk)
17:34, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Add to magazine array.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
20:47, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
|last2= |first2= |author-link2= |last3= |first3= |author-link3= |last4= |first4= |author-link4= |last5= |first5= |author-link5=
, but somewhat inexplicably leaves, well, everything else, including stuff like |editor1-last= |editor1-first= |editor1-link= |editor2-last= |editor2-first= |editor2-link= |editor3-last= |editor3-first= |editor3-link= |editor4-last= |editor4-first= |editor4-link= |editor5-last= |editor5-first= |editor5-link=
|via=
, but even then only if they are the supplier of an online copy which they aren't in this case. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
06:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
The Go-Set Chart Book
Australia's First National Charts
By Chart Book · 2018
via
parameter which had the attribute EBSCOhost
, while not deleting the same parameter with the same attribute, but wikilinked, in another CS1 template on the same page.
I'm not sure for what purpose the bot would make this deletion in the first place; it was the one change in the linked revision I fully reverted. However, I would expect it to delete both via=EBSCOhost
and via=[[EBSCOhost]]
, if the deletion is desirable/intended. The linked revision also shows that no other instances of the via
parameter or attributes on the page were changed.
Peloneous
(t)
[c]
05:13, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
|via=
without |url=
is pretty much pointless. The purpose of |via=
is to avoid astonishment when the url for a source links to a place that readers might not expect for example when the source is a newspaper but the url links to a snapshot at Newspapers.com instead of the newspaper's own online location. No |url=
, no |via=
.|via=
without |url=
(excluding the agency point) isn't pointless though, there are many documents where via is called for even without the URL. The recent discussion of {{
cite report}} at
Help talk:CS1 is one of them; it would be appropriate to say |via=DTIC
regardless of whether it was published online or physically requested from the US Government.
Izno (
talk)
18:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
|via=DTIC
without |url=
is like citing an article in the San Francisco Chronicle |via=Albuquerque Public Library
; we do not have to specify how [we] obtained and read it( WP:SAYWHERE). EBSCOhost and DTIC are just like that local library. When there is a
|url=
and the reader clicks the title link and lands someplace other than at the San Francisco Chronicle's website, then |via=<deliverer's name>
eases the astonishment factor. Without |url=
there really is no astonishment.|agency=
). That is specified in and by |via=
, regardless of any use of |url=
.
Izno (
talk)
19:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Should cover all origin= type of url garbage.
Headbomb {
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15:08, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Which turns citations like
which links to a pubmed abstract, to
which links to the full freely-available article
We do not drop PMC URLs with "table" in them. "table" is a substring of "printable". I fixed the bot to deal with that.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
17:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
|chapter=
to {{
cite journal}}
|chapter=
(and all of its aliases) are not supported by {{cite journal}}
https://books.google.com/books/feeds/volumes/J3dHAQAAMAAJ
the bot was already very suspicious of Google Books author lists. It ignored the data if any authors or editors or the publisher was already set. I have added journal, magazine, and periodical to the data types the block using this data. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 12:52, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
This will make auto-linking kick in.
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20:29, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
It did not replace a url with a bad doi, it simply added the doi - the title is still linked to the url. The consensus is that adding these DOIs (even when not active yet) based upon PMC's is useful since they usually get active soon and one can often google them and find the journal page.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
12:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
This possible also affects the frontiersin.org url too.
Headbomb {
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18:40, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
medRxiv has some interesting "page numbers". Also, fixed other issues.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
14:01, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
{{
citation needed}}
templates (which I shall do for this article)
Caused by the ending in /htm /html
You could similarly remove /pdf at the end of MDPI urls to fetch information based on it, even if the /pdf url doesn't get removed. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 21:20, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
|doi=10.1155/...
should have |doi-access=free
set, and then |url=
https://www.hindawi.com/...
can be removed.
Headbomb {
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{{ fixed}} AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:22, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
The link in the diff summary pointed me here. What am I not understanding? Urve ( talk) 21:37, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Follow Citation bot’s progress below.
How to Use / Tips and Tricks
seems {{
fixed}} now.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
21:35, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Written from a manuscript wrote in the reign of James VI of Scotland ( Sir Robert Gordon's A Genealogical History of the Earldom of Sutherland).
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 20 | ← | Archive 23 | Archive 24 | Archive 25 | Archive 26 | Archive 27 | → | Archive 30 |
This bot helpfully hyphenates some CS1 parameters that are now discouraged, such as |accessdate=
, but it appears to miss |authorlink=
. See
this diff for an example (|authorlink=
is left untouched).
The six remaining parameters that should be hyphenated are |accessdate=
, |airdate=
, |archivedate=
, |archiveurl=
, |authorlink=
, and |origyear=
. They should be changed to |access-date=
, |air-date=
, |archive-date=
, |archive-url=
, |author-link=
, and |orig-year=
, respectively. Thanks. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
16:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
|ref=harv
from {{
cite iucn}},
like this, to avoid making a cosmetic edit. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
21:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
publisher=
to work=
, which means it's italicized.
|website=
, which takes italics. The name of the website is BBC News. Likewise NBC News. So no, it's not flat out incorrect, neither is it a bug. --
Izno (
talk)
22:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
|publisher=
The New York Times
shouldn't be |work=
The New York Times
in context. In the case at hand, |work=
is trivially preferable. --
Izno (
talk)
05:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
MOS:ITALICWEBCITE and WP:CITALICSRFC are both relevent and for now I have set new runs to not do that for now. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 02:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
This is considered to be not a bug and the general belief is that it is a good edit. People want the ID links so they can choose where they are going too. The URL field holds a special primacy. The bot used to removed links when moving them, but many editors love title links.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
12:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
http://hdl.handle.net/2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46?urlappend=%3Bseq=228
→ 2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46?urlappend=%3Bseq=228
→ 2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46
doi
, for example, have to seek through the source to the proper place; no reason why hdl
should be different.|hdl=
identifier typically looks like. Here is one of your Hathi Trust urls:
2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46
is the |hdl=
identifier; it points to the online resource:
{{hdl|1=2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46}}
→
hdl:
2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46?urlappend=%3Bseq=228
, is a
query string; part of the url but not part of the identifier.|doi=
identifiers are often just as unsightlyas
|hdl=
identifiers:
doi:
10.3389/fphys.2019.00944 yet they are very commonly used – look at any scientific or medical article. |doi=
doesn't support query strings so clicking a |doi=
identifier will get the reader to the online source be it a journal article, an encyclopedia entry, a book chapter, a whatever. The reader then has to seek through the article, entry, chapter, whatever, to get to the text that supports an en.wiki article (in aid of which we have |page=
, |pages=
, |at=
in-source-locator parameters).|url=
when it creates the identifier. Alternately, we can tweak cs1|2 so that it would suppress query-string display when a query string is attached to the |hdl=
identifier.{{cite book |title=Title |hdl=2027/nnc2.ark:/13960/t2b85mh46?urlappend=%3Bseq=228}}
CrossRef data is messed up for this:
<crossref_result xmlns="http://www.crossref.org/qrschema/2.0" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" version="2.0" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.crossref.org/qrschema/2.0 https://www.crossref.org/schema/crossref_query_output2.0.xsd"> <query_result> <head> <doi_batch_id>none</doi_batch_id> </head> <body> <query status="resolved" fl_count="1"> <doi type="journal_article">10.1515/angl.1959.1959.77.117</doi> <issn type="print">0340-5222</issn> <issn type="electronic">1865-8938</issn> <journal_title>Anglia - Zeitschrift für englische Philologie</journal_title> <contributors> <contributor sequence="first" contributor_role="author"> <given_name>R. E.</given_name> <surname>KASKE</surname> </contributor> </contributors> <volume>1959</volume> <issue>77</issue> <year>1959</year> <article_title>THE SPEECH OF “BOOK” IN PIERS PLOWMAN</article_title> </query> </body> </query_result> </crossref_result>
AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 00:27, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Jstor lists it is an issue/number (that does not make it right):
TY - JOUR TI - "Sì si conserva il seme d'ogne giusto": (Purg. XXXII, 48) AU - Kaske, R. E. C1 - Full publication date: 1971 DB - JSTOR EP - 54 IS - 89 PB - Johns Hopkins University Press PY - 1971 SN - 00702862 SP - 49 T2 - Dante Studies, with the Annual Report of the Dante Society UR - http://www.jstor.org/stable/40166090 Y2 - 2021/03/27/ ER -
AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 00:31, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Incidentally, I was briefly browsing other bug reports after submitting this, and noticed this one, which suggests that using last1 rather than last might be a defect. I've no opinion on this, but it might be useful to link these. NormanGray ( talk) 10:22, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
|issue=Online First
to the citation
See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Citation_bot_"fixing"_non-deprecated_parameters. RandomCanadian ( talk / contribs) 16:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
The ISBN added for Beaverbrook's Decline and Fall of Lloyd George is false. It returns no results on Amazon or ISBNsearch, and anyway a 1963 edition, which is the edition citred, would not have an ISBN anyway.
DuncanHill (
talk)
12:21, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
|language=
param.
|language=Croatian
should be recognized
Headbomb {
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14:45, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
|language=<anything other than English>
should imply "don't touch the title" (IIRC, German and French titles, to name two examples, aren't capitalized either). On the other hand, |trans-title=
is always fair game, I suppose. If |language=
is missing, it is OK to assume language is English, even if there are many instances where it actually isn't.
GregorB (
talk)
10:18, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
That is very picky, but I do agree with you. Fixing that might be harder than it is worth, but I will think about it.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
<ref>
/ </ref>
pairs, and " }}</ref>
" breaking the ref there makes it harder. I'd be very happy if Citation bot could be induced to avoid the situation reported by Robert. —
JohnFromPinckney (
talk)
02:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Not really a bug, more a report that, while the error message is a big improvement on the previous just sit and sulk, the response could be better. Suggestion is for a better explanation. --
John Maynard Friedman (
talk)
18:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
See
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Citation bot "fixing" non-deprecated parameters and all related discussions around these parameters. At the moment, these parameters are accepted variations and should not be replaced by any bot. They are not included in the AWB parameter replacement list, so no idea why Citation bot does this.
Fram (
talk)
08:26, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
affect something visible to readers and consumers of Wikipedia. – Jonesey95 ( talk) 14:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
frankly i am confused after reading "
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Citation bot "fixing" non-deprecated parameters". just heads up.
Gi vi an (
talk)
13:16, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Will add to same code that TNT's titles that end with "on jstor" etc.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
12:55, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
|volume=in press
and similar? Or is that the same code?
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I get this error sometimes as well. I think it may indicate that the bot is too busy. Usually if I wait for half an hour or so, it starts working again. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
23:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
I added a note above and on the main page. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 12:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
{{ fixed}} for now.
Should now remove volume/issue set to n/a when the other one is set to a number.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
"article" is now a magic word.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Headbomb, this isn't about cosmetic changes or not. This is about changing one preference to another, which isn't allowed no matter if the edit contains another substantial change or not. Both versions are accepted, and no bot should change from one version to another (in either direction). Allowed cosmetic bits in substantial edits are things which still work but where there is agreement that one version should be removed. For these, it has been rather explicitly decided that these changes should not be done (and certainly not by bot). I thought this had been laid to rest by now, but apparently not. Fram ( talk) 10:39, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
How do I split large categories in smaller parts a 2500 items for use with Citation bot's category?
{{ wontfix}} AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 01:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Is anyone else having issues running the bot today. It isn't working for me today, maybe it's just my device JamCor ( talk) 17:46, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok thanks JamCor ( talk) 19:00, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes please do because mine has stopped working again JamCor ( talk) 14:36, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Despite Deadman137 stopping his massive category runs and no one using the bot for a long time, it still isn't working for me. JamCor ( talk) 15:56, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
For some reason it has started again so need to worry JamCor ( talk) 16:12, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
I know it's not the same thing, but while you're waiting for Citation bot to come back you can try and use https://oabot.toolforge.org/ ! Citations need more tender loving care from many fronts. :) Nemo 14:36, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
{{ fixed}} I hope. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 01:36, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Often times I will see people use{{Cite web}}
when citing a Tweet, Instagram post, YouTube video, etc. There are specific citation templates that can be substituted such as {{Cite tweet}}
, {{Cite instagram}}
, or {{Cite youtube}}
, that correspond to those specific citations. There are likely more that I haven't encountered yet.
{{Cite website|url=https://twitter.com/wikipediauser/status/1234567890|title=wikipedia user on Twitter|access-date=April 30, 2021|last=Doe|first=John|date=March 7, 2007|website=Twitter|quote="Hello from twitter!"}}
Hello from twitter!
{{Cite tweet|user=wikipediauser|number=1234567890|title=Hello from twitter!|date=March 7, 2007|access-date=April 30, 2021|last=Doe|first=John}}
The second is more condensed and generates a more stylized citation. Citation bot could convert these web citations into templates that are more specialized. SWinxy ( talk) 19:56, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I have noticed that this bot has been adding "chapter-url" to a number of reference but the actual url being used is not for the chapter page but for the front page of the book, which means that it is incorrect. For example:
[1], in the article
Battle of Leckmelm, among others.
QuintusPetillius (
talk)
19:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I need to clean roughly a dozen or so of this every month, all added by the bot.
Headbomb {
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11:23, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
{{
cite magazine}}
and |magazine=
; not {{
cite news}}
and |journal=
.Hi!
It has almost 5 months that this draft: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Donkervoort_D8 was created and it wasn't made a decision to move it to main articles or not. The references show significant information about it. Please decide for this page wherever will be moved to main articles.
Thank you NSHPUZA ( talk) 11:50, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
For the past couple of days I have not been able to run this bot at all. Either I am dropped into an endless loop, or I get repeats of an unhelpful message, "503 Service Not Available", which apparently means the server is overloaded. Does this mean the server is busy on what it regards as priority matters? If that is the case, then someone told the servers to give content building the lowest priority. This is a serious disruption to content building. Is that Foundation policy? What happened to the money donated to the Foundation for things like maintaining servers? — Epipelagic ( talk) 23:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
The bot isn't working for me today it's taking ages to load way longer than usual JamCor ( talk) 07:58, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
It's not working at all for me still JamCor ( talk) 13:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Why is the bot removing SemanticScholar links which were already fixed with an archive URL? Please stop and revert immediately. I thought this kind of de-linking had stopped months ago. Nemo 10:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
{{ notabug}} thank you for investigating. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 11:04, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
The title is all capital letters. Or at least PHP thinks that it is. I have added some code to check for non-ASCII characters and not blow it away and retry in such cases.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:40, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
|script-title=
anyway.
Izno (
talk)
22:56, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
These serve no purpose, clutter citations, and will override automated anchors, making citations less editor-friendly.
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22:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Bot added |last1=Ahuja|first1=Niraj|last2=Niraj|first2=Ahuja when it should have just been |last1=Ahuja|first1=Niraj unless I'm mistaken. --
203.18.34.190 (
talk)
05:49, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
>Remedial work to prepare citations >Consult APIs to expand templates >Using Zotero translation server to retrieve details from URLs. >Expand individual templates by API calls >Checking CrossRef database for doi. >Searching PubMed... !no results. nothing found. >Checking AdsAbs database no record retrieved. >Checking CrossRef database for doi. >Searching PubMed... !no results. nothing found. >Checking AdsAbs database >AdsAbs search 11541/25000: title:"Dutch disease and the Azerbaijan economy" >Remedial work to clean up templates >No changes required.
Seems like they have an API:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/sdfe/arp/cite?pii=S0967067X13000470&format=application%2Fx-research-info-systems&withabstract=false
AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:45, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
I prepared a patch to re-enable Zotero, using the official Citoid API: https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/3732 The tests are passing! Nemo 12:24, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Should cover all of Disease-a-month, Disease-A-Month and Disease-A-month.
Headbomb {
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It's been about 14 months since this script was created, and since its inception it became one of the most imported scripts (currently #54, with 286+ adopters).
Since last year, it's been significantly expanded to cover more bad sources, and is more useful than ever, so I figured it would be a good time to bring up the script up again. This way others who might not know about it can take a look and try it for themselves. I would highly recommend that anyone doing citation work, who writes/expands articles, or does bad-sourcing/BLP cleanup work installs the script.
The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:16, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/commit/0cdfc730f09da06da2a1d9a9cb86dde717154206
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
14:17, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
|publisher=
Google
from material published by Google Inc?security.googleblog.com
domain).I've reverted these and also changed the link to Google Inc. or Google LLC in the hopes of preventing it being removed again, but is there a reason for this? I'm not using the bug template since I suspect this might be classified a deliberate heuristic or "intended behaviour", but thought I'd raise it anyway since it was proving an annoyance, especially when it reached the third time I'd had to revert this exact change.
— HarJIT ( talk) 20:10, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
|website=Google Online Security Blog
and maybe |website=GitHub
, although I'm a little undecided on this one. Anyway, maybe that's what Citation bot was trying to do for us? —
JohnFromPinckney (
talk)
20:52, 19 May 2021 (UTC)In this edit ( [20]), the bot changed a cite-web template for The Economist to cite-journal. The Economist is not an academic journal, so this was in error. — Goszei ( talk) 21:24, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
|newspaper=
.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
12:31, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
|journal=Wiley Online Library
should never be added
The Bot seems to be under higher load recently.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:51, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
|title=none
has title replaced by something else, like |title=Clemency Montelle. Chasing Shadows: Mathematics, Astronomy, and the Early History of Eclipse Reckoning. (Johns Hopkins Studies in the History of Mathematics.) xii + 408 pp., illus., tables, apps., bibls., index. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2011. $75 (Cloth)
(from which you might perhaps guess why title=none was deliberately used)|title=none
indicates that a human has deliberately decided not to include a title here. That decision should be respected and not changed by the bot. Also, in this particular case, the title is not really a title, as can be seen at the JSTOR page for the same citation, which calls it "[UNTITLED]".
|pages=32–0365
can be correct. When I look this one up on the doi database I get "32–0365–32–0365" for the pages, suggesting that it is a single page numbered page 32–0365. Probably the correct value is just |page=365
.
The paper in question is behind a paywall. Impossible to easily know what the pages are. Rejecting pages with dashes in them from CrossRef now.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
21:32, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
It was just bad wikitext.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:33, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
This should apply to 'SIAM Review' and 'SIAM Journal on Computing' only not 'SIAM', because
Siam and
SIAM are both present in journal names.
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And I've just come across one
here where website=BBC Sport, which seems correct to me, was changed to work. Doesn't seem particularly consistent? cheers,
Struway2 (
talk)
09:41, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
|publisher=''The Daily Whatever''
to help human editors make newspapers display in italics. In the real world, the BBC's sport website really isn't a newspaper. Imposing an unintuitive alias looks like a backward step. cheers,
Struway2 (
talk)
15:55, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
The bot has made an incomprehensible change to a citation in the section:
/info/en/?search=RECOVERY_Trial#Convalescent_plasma
and is now showing several hundred lines of gibberish under Authors.
Permanent link to the page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=RECOVERY_Trial&oldid=1026144634
I will be reverting, thanks.
Hallucegenia (
talk)
17:34, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Add to magazine array.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
20:47, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
|last2= |first2= |author-link2= |last3= |first3= |author-link3= |last4= |first4= |author-link4= |last5= |first5= |author-link5=
, but somewhat inexplicably leaves, well, everything else, including stuff like |editor1-last= |editor1-first= |editor1-link= |editor2-last= |editor2-first= |editor2-link= |editor3-last= |editor3-first= |editor3-link= |editor4-last= |editor4-first= |editor4-link= |editor5-last= |editor5-first= |editor5-link=
|via=
, but even then only if they are the supplier of an online copy which they aren't in this case. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
06:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
The Go-Set Chart Book
Australia's First National Charts
By Chart Book · 2018
via
parameter which had the attribute EBSCOhost
, while not deleting the same parameter with the same attribute, but wikilinked, in another CS1 template on the same page.
I'm not sure for what purpose the bot would make this deletion in the first place; it was the one change in the linked revision I fully reverted. However, I would expect it to delete both via=EBSCOhost
and via=[[EBSCOhost]]
, if the deletion is desirable/intended. The linked revision also shows that no other instances of the via
parameter or attributes on the page were changed.
Peloneous
(t)
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05:13, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
|via=
without |url=
is pretty much pointless. The purpose of |via=
is to avoid astonishment when the url for a source links to a place that readers might not expect for example when the source is a newspaper but the url links to a snapshot at Newspapers.com instead of the newspaper's own online location. No |url=
, no |via=
.|via=
without |url=
(excluding the agency point) isn't pointless though, there are many documents where via is called for even without the URL. The recent discussion of {{
cite report}} at
Help talk:CS1 is one of them; it would be appropriate to say |via=DTIC
regardless of whether it was published online or physically requested from the US Government.
Izno (
talk)
18:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
|via=DTIC
without |url=
is like citing an article in the San Francisco Chronicle |via=Albuquerque Public Library
; we do not have to specify how [we] obtained and read it( WP:SAYWHERE). EBSCOhost and DTIC are just like that local library. When there is a
|url=
and the reader clicks the title link and lands someplace other than at the San Francisco Chronicle's website, then |via=<deliverer's name>
eases the astonishment factor. Without |url=
there really is no astonishment.|agency=
). That is specified in and by |via=
, regardless of any use of |url=
.
Izno (
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19:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Should cover all origin= type of url garbage.
Headbomb {
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Which turns citations like
which links to a pubmed abstract, to
which links to the full freely-available article
We do not drop PMC URLs with "table" in them. "table" is a substring of "printable". I fixed the bot to deal with that.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
17:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
|chapter=
to {{
cite journal}}
|chapter=
(and all of its aliases) are not supported by {{cite journal}}
https://books.google.com/books/feeds/volumes/J3dHAQAAMAAJ
the bot was already very suspicious of Google Books author lists. It ignored the data if any authors or editors or the publisher was already set. I have added journal, magazine, and periodical to the data types the block using this data. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 12:52, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
This will make auto-linking kick in.
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It did not replace a url with a bad doi, it simply added the doi - the title is still linked to the url. The consensus is that adding these DOIs (even when not active yet) based upon PMC's is useful since they usually get active soon and one can often google them and find the journal page.
AManWithNoPlan (
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12:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
This possible also affects the frontiersin.org url too.
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medRxiv has some interesting "page numbers". Also, fixed other issues.
AManWithNoPlan (
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14:01, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
{{
citation needed}}
templates (which I shall do for this article)
Caused by the ending in /htm /html
You could similarly remove /pdf at the end of MDPI urls to fetch information based on it, even if the /pdf url doesn't get removed. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 21:20, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
|doi=10.1155/...
should have |doi-access=free
set, and then |url=
https://www.hindawi.com/...
can be removed.
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{{ fixed}} AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:22, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
The link in the diff summary pointed me here. What am I not understanding? Urve ( talk) 21:37, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Follow Citation bot’s progress below.
How to Use / Tips and Tricks
seems {{
fixed}} now.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
21:35, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Written from a manuscript wrote in the reign of James VI of Scotland ( Sir Robert Gordon's A Genealogical History of the Earldom of Sutherland).