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https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1722
AManWithNoPlan (
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13:56, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
{{
notabug}} Neither link worked, then they both worked. academia.edu was having trouble. Thank you for reporting it though. As I go through EVERY page that has blocked the bot, I am finding a few bugs that have NEVER been reported. People just blocked the bot and reverted the edits and went on their merry way.
AManWithNoPlan (
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13:48, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I just tried to run the bot, however on the progress page for every AdsAbs database check the above was returned, following the api querry link I get: {
"error": "Unauthorized"
}
. --
Redalert2fan (
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07:13, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure what is going on here, but it seems like its taking the
Amazon Standard Identification Number (ASIN): 6317859612 that is listed on the page and seeing it as an ISBN, converting cite web into cite book. In any case no books here, since its a page to buy a DVD set.
Redalert2fan (
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14:14, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
log from the web process:
> Remedial work to prepare citations
- Dropping parameter "publisher"
- Dropping parameter "accessdate"
- Dropping parameter "url"
- Dropping parameter "publisher"
~ Converting URL to ASIN parameter
~ Converted ISBN10 to ISBN13
+ Adding isbn: 6317859612
-- Redalert2fan ( talk) 14:16, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Amazon uses "ISBN" that start with "630" for their stuff. We blocked that. They are now using "631", so I blocked "61*". Once this is uploaded, this problem will be gone. https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1724 AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 14:33, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
@ Kaldari:, I believe it needs kicked. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 19:37, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1728
AManWithNoPlan (
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22:17, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
If something more limited is desired, this should cover at least AGU Fall Meeting Abstracts and AGU Spring Meeting Abstracts.
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Saving for later to look at. We get this:
author": [ [ "Isaac Davison Social Issues Reporter, NZ Herald", "isaac.davison@nzherald.co.nz @isaac_davison"
AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 03:32, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
This should help https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1723 once uploaded. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 14:07, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1738
AManWithNoPlan (
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20:09, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Article was posted on 2017-08-13 08:06 according to the page.
Redalert2fan (
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09:40, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
In some sense this is GIGO. But in general: The ACM supplies metadata saying that the "series" of its conference proceedings is the abbreviated title for the same conference — in this case, we have title "Proceedings of the 20th Annual ACM-SIAM Symposium on Discrete Algorithms" and series "SODA '09". This is an incorrect usage of the series parameter, and the reference already had it correctly incorporated directly into the title ("Proceedings of the 20th Annual ACM-SIAM Symposium on Discrete Algorithms (SODA '09)"). This bot edit made it worse, in three ways: (1) it uncorrected the metadata by splitting out the bogus series again, (2) it left the same series name incorporated into the title parameter, creating unnecessary and redundant duplication of the same material twice, and (3) it capitalized an initialism that should correctly have been left all-uppercase. If the bot cannot have the intelligence to recognize that this is a case of GIGO and that it would be better left unchanged, it should not run at all. Do I need to re-add the bot-exclusion flag for this article that
AManWithNoPlan removed immediately before making this bad edit? Maybe the best general fix would be to ignore the series parameter when it comes from ACM? —
David Eppstein (
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20:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Pursuant to blocking policy and bot policy, I have unblocked the bot.
I would strongly encourage all those involved in maintaining the bot to review the nature of the bot's operation and ensure that all tasks are approved and have community support. A new BRFA would be appropriate for any tasks that have been added that are outside the initial approval. Uninvited Company 17:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ fixed}} archive flag
EVERYONE needs their own PMC these days 🙄
AManWithNoPlan (
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03:24, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1732 AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:50, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, this edit: diff added a citeseerx according to the edit summary, however I thought this function was removed to unblock the bot. Now I'm not familiar with this so could you please take a look? Thanks, Redalert2fan ( talk) 22:54, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Need to fix these. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:17, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
|url=
to |chapter-url=
when |chapter=
has a wikilink (
diff)
bot changed this:
{{cite book |chapter= [[Bangla Bhasha Procholon Ain, 1987]]|script-chapter=বাংলা ভাষা প্রচলন আইন, ১৯৮৭ |trans-chapter=Bengali Language Implementation Act, 1987 |chapter-format= |title= Bangladesh Code|script-title=বাংলাদেশ কোড |trans-title= |url= http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/pdf/705___.pdf|dead-url= |language=bn |volume=27 |issue= |others= |edition=Online |location=Dhaka |publisher=Ministry of Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs, Bangladesh |publication-date= |page= |pages= |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date=2019-05-23 }}
{{
cite book}}
: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url=
(
help); Invalid |script-chapter=
: missing prefix (
help); Invalid |script-title=
: missing prefix (
help)to this:
{{cite book |chapter= [[Bangla Bhasha Procholon Ain, 1987]]|script-chapter=বাংলা ভাষা প্রচলন আইন, ১৯৮৭ |trans-chapter=Bengali Language Implementation Act, 1987 |title= Bangladesh Code|script-title=বাংলাদেশ কোড |trans-title= |chapter-url= http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/pdf/705___.pdf|dead-url= |language=bn |volume=27 |issue= |others= |edition=Online |location=Dhaka |publisher=Ministry of Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs, Bangladesh |date= |page= |pages= |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date=2019-05-23 }}
{{
cite book}}
: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url=
(
help); Invalid |script-chapter=
: missing prefix (
help); Invalid |script-title=
: missing prefix (
help); URL–wikilink conflict (
help)— Trappist the monk ( talk) 15:49, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
|trans-chapter=
because that parameter is not linked by |chapter-url=
. Yeah, this is only good if there is a valid target for the English translation title.
{{cite book |chapter=Bangla Bhasha Procholon Ain, 1987 |script-chapter=বাংলা ভাষা প্রচলন আইন, ১৯৮৭ |trans-chapter=[[Bengali Language Implementation Act, 1987]] |title= Bangladesh Code|script-title=বাংলাদেশ কোড |trans-title= |chapter-url= http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/pdf/705___.pdf|dead-url= |language=bn |volume=27 |issue= |others= |edition=Online |location=Dhaka |publisher=Ministry of Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs, Bangladesh |date= |page= |pages= |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date=2019-05-23 }}
{{
cite book}}
: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url=
(
help); Invalid |script-chapter=
: missing prefix (
help); Invalid |script-title=
: missing prefix (
help)
All words added.
AManWithNoPlan (
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16:58, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ Resolved}}
I believe there are two problems at work here:
Accordingly, I believe the best way forward would be to submit a new request for approval at WP:BRFA. @ AManWithNoPlan:, if you wish to step up and be the maintainer of record, it would fall to you to make the formal request. It seems to me that an accepted BRFA would make it clear that the bot should be unblocked. Uninvited Company 17:48, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
The concerns in the first bullet may be 'legitimate', but it is also unfounded and irrelevant. Bot policy require that concerns and messages are addressed by either the bot op or others maintainers and helpers. Since maintainers are clearly active, the operation of the bot is fully compliant with WP:BOTCOMM. Likewise, WP:BOTPOL requires that the operator of the bot is identified, and they are: User:Smith609, as the banner at the top of User:Citation bot makes it clear. Likewise, User talk:Citation bot makes it clear who the maintainers are: User:Smith609, User:Kaldari, and User:AManWithNoPlan. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 21:50, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
This Citation Style 1 template is used to create citations for news articles in print, video, audio or web.-- Izno ( talk) 12:19, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Before 2014, editors needed to decide whether to use {{Cite web}} or {{Cite news}} based on their features. In 2014, however, most of the differences between the two templates were eliminated. As of 29 July 2016, {{Cite web}} and {{Cite news}} have the following differences: {{Cite news}} can be used for offline (paper) sources whereas {{Cite web}} generates a missing URL error when no URL is provided...But given the same set of valid parameters, their output is exactly the same". "Offline (paper) sources" is distinct. Pyxis Solitary yak 12:45, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ resolved}} I don't care anymore if {{bots|deny=Citation bot}} is a "blunt instrument". Do not remove it from any articles until the problems with the bot has have been fixed. I am out of patience with bad changes. Thank you. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:50, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
I fixed the citations that caused trouble. The issues are 1. Meta data for non journals being presented to the bot using journal style descriptions. The bots additions add information, but poorly allocated to the template parameters. 2. Local vs Zulu time. Can give you a date that is one different than expected. Really unsolvable. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
The bot is currently blocked. See above. In the mean time use gadget mode.
AManWithNoPlan (
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15:00, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
We are rolling out the new OAuth based code while blocked, thus instead of failing at write, the bot fails instantly now. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 21:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
|title=ScienceDirect
should be replaced.
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1791
AManWithNoPlan (
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21:51, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
|volume=Vol. 46 Iss. 3
|volume=46
|issue=3
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1792
AManWithNoPlan (
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21:51, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
One more for the bad title list: Cur_Title -- Redalert2fan ( talk) 16:58, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ fixed}}
Seems to be because the page is dead, but not a good title anyways.
Redalert2fan (
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21:13, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the bot is being used by someone who is evading a block to continually follow around two other editors; and there is apparently no way to prevent this with the current configuration. And nothing to prevent other LTAs from doing the same to other editors. If the bot can be modified to resolve this problem, an admin can unblock without talking to me first, but my understanding is this is going to be very difficult. I'm sorry, I know this bot is very useful to a lot of good faith volunteers.
For background, see here. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 23:11, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Floquenbeam Or someone else. Please unblock the account. 20:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Is the OAuth work completed such that it is no longer possible to trigger the bot anonymously? Uninvited Company 15:35, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
I just tried it on my sandbox page and got an error, fwiw. Uninvited Company 20:10, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Way back when, citation bot was doing things like
[25], adding |postscript=<!-- none -->
to citations that got followed by a period.
This behaviour is long gone, but the stuff remains in article. This should be cleaned up because things like
{{Cite journal | journal = Nature | volume = 389 | issue = 162–164 | year = 1997 | doi = 10.1038/38241 | title = Direct observation of a fractional charge | first1 = R. | last1 = de-Picciotto | first2 = M. | last2 = Reznikov | first3 = M. | last3 = Heiblum | first4 = V. | last4 = Umansky | first5 = G. | last5 = Bunin | first6 = D. | last6 = Mahalu | pages = 162 | postscript = <!--None-->}}.
results in
Notice the double dot at the end.
These should be cleaned up to
{{Cite journal | journal = Nature | volume = 389 | issue = 162–164 | year = 1997 | doi = 10.1038/38241 | title = Direct observation of a fractional charge | first1 = R. | last1 = de-Picciotto | first2 = M. | last2 = Reznikov | first3 = M. | last3 = Heiblum | first4 = V. | last4 = Umansky | first5 = G. | last5 = Bunin | first6 = D. | last6 = Mahalu | pages = 162 }}
to give the proper
So basically, if you find |postscript=<!--None-->
(case/spacing insensitive, as long as the content of the comment is 'none'), remove it. And if a CS1 template without |mode=cs2
, or a {{
citation}} with |mode=cs1
, is followed with a dot after the final }}
, remove that dot.
Headbomb {
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{{ fixed}} as well as it be. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 23:48, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Back soon we hope. In mean time use gadget mode.
{{ fixed}}
Link to in progress pull, if someone can look at it. https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1624 and comment. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 03:20, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
PLEASE TRY this. It appears to work now. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 19:58, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Uh, the weird thing seems to be that when I ask to run the bot, the edits are made under my account, rather than under the bot's account... Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 20:18, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Extended content
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Everyone should have actually read the discussions more carefully over the last year about this issue, since literally none of this is news (obviously we all made wrong assumptions, since no one said “you seem to be talking about different things”). AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 21:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
In any case, could the recent OAuth changes be undeployed ASAP? In the meantime, I have made EF request to prevent unauthorized bot runs on user accounts. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 02:44, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
So, having the user id and bot switching places in the edit summary is the end of the world. I could add code to make the bot check if itself is blocked. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 16:53, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
You can filter your watch list to no show the citation bot based upon the tags. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 17:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC) "it's also that these edits and runs get performed from unflagged accounts, being able to destructively run on large amounts of pages that the bot was never meant to be run on" -- how is that any different whether the bot is set to write as itself or as a user? Are there pages that are in some way flagged to not allow bots to edit? AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 17:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
I have talked to Smith and he liked it the old way, so I should have code deployed soon. I have been pushing the discussion hard to try to figure out what is really troubling people, and all I have gotten is "it is better when the bot does it", which is enough if Smith likes it that way. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Someone needs to unblock the bot, because the security problem is fixed by forcing edits to be done as the user. We are working on conversion to writing as the bot but with verifiable user names because of people who don’t like seeing bots on their watchlist. Either way, the need for the block is gone. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 12:42, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/davidbarratt AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 01:16, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
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Reading the above discussion in more depth, I wonder if the 'check for block' point has been misunderstood. I was never suggesting the bot needs to check if it itself is block. I guess this is useful if the bot is allowed to operate from random unsanctioned accounts, but that is still a problem for other reasons so was never likely to be an acceptable solution. My point was the bot needed to check that the user activating was not blocked since otherwise the misuse would be harder to stop even with disclosure and verification of the user activating. If the bot is only running from its own account as it should be, then checking whether it is blocked is not quite so important. Probably the bot does need some sort of basic sanity check otherwise it could break when it is unblocked if it doesn't understand it was blocked before and its edits failed. (It could just completely break when it is blocked and needed to be manually killed or something. And flooding the servers with denied requests may be a problem from the WMF's POV. But those don't really affect us directly here.) In any case, if there's still a lot of misunderstanding over what's being request going on, maybe it would be helpful if people summarise somewhere what they plan to do. In sufficient detail so there should be no confusion but not so much that no one will read it. Then hopefully someone with more knowledge will have the time to say whether it's right or not. Nil Einne ( talk) 11:46, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1827
AManWithNoPlan (
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23:08, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
As well as
|postscript=<!-- None-->
(as detailed
here)also cover
|postscript=<!-- Bot inserted parameter. Either remove it; or change its value to "." for the cite to end in a ".", as necessary. -->
Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 00:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ fixed}}
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1829
AManWithNoPlan (
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23:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
If you have
{{cite journal |title=Selenium Chloride and Bromide Equilibria in Aprotic Solvents; A <sup>77</sup>Se NMR Study |journal=Polyhedron |year=1990 |volume=9 |pages=589–595 |doi=10.1016/S0277-5387(00)86238-5}}
the bot won't expand it.
However, if you have
{{cite journal |journal=Polyhedron |year=1990 |volume=9 |pages=589–595 |doi=10.1016/S0277-5387(00)86238-5}}
{{
cite journal}}
: Missing or empty |title=
(
help)then the bot will expand it to
Title mismatches aren't important when the DOI is provided. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 17:11, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1828 should help a lot
AManWithNoPlan (
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23:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
{{
fixed}}
AManWithNoPlan (
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00:44, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Note that apart from the year being 0001 which is quite unlikely the date starts with a - and dates should obviously not be negative.
Redalert2fan (
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19:01, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
AdsAbs is giving the 999 error again, It seems we have used up all our uses. Is it correct that we have 25000 in total per x amount of time? I think I saw a counter on the web page while running a list of pages. My apologies to everyone else, I probably used 15000 of those haha. Redalert2fan ( talk) 10:15, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Limit busted again. When I ran bibcode bot, they gave me unlimited rates, so I don't see why they couldn't give unlimited rates to this bot either. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 02:56, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
When a certain bibcode (e.g. Bibcode: 2018MNRAS.tmp.2192I) is valid but redirects to a new bibcode (e.g. Bibcode: 2018MNRAS.481..703I) the bibcode should be updated. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 19:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
tmp
ones, and it's always safe to updatee to the most recent / active value.
User:Bibcode Bot used to do that, but it's currently down because of API changes at ADSABS.
Headbomb {
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This will help once deployed
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1833/files#diff-47b867068e1aef0388448a571c8c7092
AManWithNoPlan (
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05:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Need to expand based upon URL, Chapter-URL, and ChapterURL. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 17:51, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
See also
User talk:Citation bot/Archive 15#remove via when no url give, but doi/other identifiers present.
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|via=
parameter when there is any identifier (save for ISSN, which is crap, and points nowhere useful) and no url. Basically, in line with the relevant part of the documentation "when the URL provided does not make clear the identity of the deliverer".
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https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1840
AManWithNoPlan (
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22:10, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
! Did not receive results from Google API search isbn:9783941957503
That ISBN corresponds to https://frl.publisso.de/resource/frl:5226608
"Did not receive results from Google API search isbn:9783941957503" There is nothing we can do about books Google does not have. The Hive Mind is not all knowing yet.
AManWithNoPlan (
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04:05, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Note the comma removal, and the url handling.
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The API is completely busted. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 23:42, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ fixed}}
We don't remove them unless we can fix them or there is a doi present.
AManWithNoPlan (
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13:51, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1852 AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 14:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
🤔 tool server right now is having some serious black listing problems. Might be related. I know some of the reported issues actually work just find on the test cluster.
AManWithNoPlan (
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02:37, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
I see that crossref returns Szeg{ö and that makes me wonder if there is any way to know what the { means in a name with an reliablity.
AManWithNoPlan (
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19:44, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
This was the Wikipedia standard and then it wasn’t. The bot now only does it for 2007 and later. I should note that using dashes is now the standard too, but we don’t mess with that.
AManWithNoPlan (
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17:42, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:ISBN This style guide. So, you are supposed to use ISBN13, if it exists. Everything 2007 and forward as ISBN13. The bot checks the date and then converts it, if the date is 2007 or newer. This is a change to the old guidance which was to convert them all. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:50, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Interestingly, that citation has a PMID, an ISBN, and a URL. They all point to different end urls about the same thing. So, the via actually is applicable enough for the bot to leave. You as a human have judgement and can remove it.
AManWithNoPlan (
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01:16, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
|via=
is kept when new URLs are added and |via=
isn't updated, or
pointlessly kept around.
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[[ANTIC (magazine)|''ANTIC'']]
AManWithNoPlan (
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02:29, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
{{
cite journal}}
: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |journal=
(
help)When you have something like
{{cite journal |author1=Vennes |first1=S. |last2=Kawka |first2=A. |year=2008 |title=On the empirical evidence for the existence of ultramassive white dwarfs |journal=Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society |volume=389 |issue=3 |pages=1367 |arxiv=0806.4742 |bibcode=2008MNRAS.389.1367V |doi=10.1111/j.1365-2966.2008.13652.x }}
It should be cleaned up to
{{cite journal |last1=Vennes |first1=S. |last2=Kawka |first2=A. |year=2008 |title=On the empirical evidence for the existence of ultramassive white dwarfs |journal=Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society |volume=389 |issue=3 |pages=1367 |arxiv=0806.4742 |bibcode=2008MNRAS.389.1367V |doi=10.1111/j.1365-2966.2008.13652.x }}
Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 16:55, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Done.
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1861 {{
fixed}}.
AManWithNoPlan (
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17:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Not sure how safe this is, but it's worth investigation. I believe we're doing similar things with PDF at the start of the title though.
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agency: The news agency (wire service) that provided the content; examples: Associated Press, Reuters, Agence France-Presse. May be wikilinked if relevant.-- Izno ( talk) 18:25, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Original: "FDA's New Regulations for E-Cigarettes, Cigars, and All Other Tobacco Products". United States Department of Health and Human Services. United States Food and Drug Administration. 17 August 2017.
Agency removed: "FDA's New Regulations for E-Cigarettes, Cigars, and All Other Tobacco Products". United States Food and Drug Administration. 17 August 2017.
What is the best way to reformat this citation? I would like the bot to fix it without me trying to fix it. QuackGuru ( talk) 18:28, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
|agency=
refers to wire services like Reuters and not government agencies.
AManWithNoPlan (
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19:32, 25 June 2019 (UTC)It changed the FDA citations to "cite journal". [51] QuackGuru ( talk) 04:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Citation bot should not shorten first names, as it was not always easy to find what that first name was. Urhixidur ( talk) 12:53, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
I did a page search for "United States Department of Health and Human Services". I just noticed the same problem with the Surgeon General citations. I restored the issue for one of the citations for the bot to undo. QuackGuru ( talk) 21:51, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
We don’t always do it, since some things should have volume/vol in the text (volume is part of the actual title for many books and should not use volume parameter, but they do). Will adjust code for this case.
AManWithNoPlan (
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04:02, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
volume is part of the actual title for many books and should not use volume parameter, but they doWhere is this assertion coming from? I routinely remove volume from title. -- Izno ( talk) 12:03, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
It already tries to this. If no expansion is successful, then we revert to the original. Sometime ResearchGate lets us in, and often not.
AManWithNoPlan (
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22:19, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
<ref>[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23907078_Far-infrared_sources_in_the_vicinity_of_the_supernova_remnant_W28 Bla bla bla]</ref>
→ <ref>[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23907078 Bla bla bla]</ref>
though. Not critical however.
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That’s really weird.
AManWithNoPlan (
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13:16, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
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https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1722
AManWithNoPlan (
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13:56, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
{{
notabug}} Neither link worked, then they both worked. academia.edu was having trouble. Thank you for reporting it though. As I go through EVERY page that has blocked the bot, I am finding a few bugs that have NEVER been reported. People just blocked the bot and reverted the edits and went on their merry way.
AManWithNoPlan (
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13:48, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I just tried to run the bot, however on the progress page for every AdsAbs database check the above was returned, following the api querry link I get: {
"error": "Unauthorized"
}
. --
Redalert2fan (
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07:13, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure what is going on here, but it seems like its taking the
Amazon Standard Identification Number (ASIN): 6317859612 that is listed on the page and seeing it as an ISBN, converting cite web into cite book. In any case no books here, since its a page to buy a DVD set.
Redalert2fan (
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14:14, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
log from the web process:
> Remedial work to prepare citations
- Dropping parameter "publisher"
- Dropping parameter "accessdate"
- Dropping parameter "url"
- Dropping parameter "publisher"
~ Converting URL to ASIN parameter
~ Converted ISBN10 to ISBN13
+ Adding isbn: 6317859612
-- Redalert2fan ( talk) 14:16, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Amazon uses "ISBN" that start with "630" for their stuff. We blocked that. They are now using "631", so I blocked "61*". Once this is uploaded, this problem will be gone. https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1724 AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 14:33, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
@ Kaldari:, I believe it needs kicked. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 19:37, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1728
AManWithNoPlan (
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22:17, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
If something more limited is desired, this should cover at least AGU Fall Meeting Abstracts and AGU Spring Meeting Abstracts.
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Saving for later to look at. We get this:
author": [ [ "Isaac Davison Social Issues Reporter, NZ Herald", "isaac.davison@nzherald.co.nz @isaac_davison"
AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 03:32, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
This should help https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1723 once uploaded. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 14:07, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1738
AManWithNoPlan (
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20:09, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Article was posted on 2017-08-13 08:06 according to the page.
Redalert2fan (
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09:40, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
In some sense this is GIGO. But in general: The ACM supplies metadata saying that the "series" of its conference proceedings is the abbreviated title for the same conference — in this case, we have title "Proceedings of the 20th Annual ACM-SIAM Symposium on Discrete Algorithms" and series "SODA '09". This is an incorrect usage of the series parameter, and the reference already had it correctly incorporated directly into the title ("Proceedings of the 20th Annual ACM-SIAM Symposium on Discrete Algorithms (SODA '09)"). This bot edit made it worse, in three ways: (1) it uncorrected the metadata by splitting out the bogus series again, (2) it left the same series name incorporated into the title parameter, creating unnecessary and redundant duplication of the same material twice, and (3) it capitalized an initialism that should correctly have been left all-uppercase. If the bot cannot have the intelligence to recognize that this is a case of GIGO and that it would be better left unchanged, it should not run at all. Do I need to re-add the bot-exclusion flag for this article that
AManWithNoPlan removed immediately before making this bad edit? Maybe the best general fix would be to ignore the series parameter when it comes from ACM? —
David Eppstein (
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20:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Pursuant to blocking policy and bot policy, I have unblocked the bot.
I would strongly encourage all those involved in maintaining the bot to review the nature of the bot's operation and ensure that all tasks are approved and have community support. A new BRFA would be appropriate for any tasks that have been added that are outside the initial approval. Uninvited Company 17:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ fixed}} archive flag
EVERYONE needs their own PMC these days 🙄
AManWithNoPlan (
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03:24, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1732 AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:50, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, this edit: diff added a citeseerx according to the edit summary, however I thought this function was removed to unblock the bot. Now I'm not familiar with this so could you please take a look? Thanks, Redalert2fan ( talk) 22:54, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Need to fix these. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:17, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
|url=
to |chapter-url=
when |chapter=
has a wikilink (
diff)
bot changed this:
{{cite book |chapter= [[Bangla Bhasha Procholon Ain, 1987]]|script-chapter=বাংলা ভাষা প্রচলন আইন, ১৯৮৭ |trans-chapter=Bengali Language Implementation Act, 1987 |chapter-format= |title= Bangladesh Code|script-title=বাংলাদেশ কোড |trans-title= |url= http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/pdf/705___.pdf|dead-url= |language=bn |volume=27 |issue= |others= |edition=Online |location=Dhaka |publisher=Ministry of Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs, Bangladesh |publication-date= |page= |pages= |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date=2019-05-23 }}
{{
cite book}}
: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url=
(
help); Invalid |script-chapter=
: missing prefix (
help); Invalid |script-title=
: missing prefix (
help)to this:
{{cite book |chapter= [[Bangla Bhasha Procholon Ain, 1987]]|script-chapter=বাংলা ভাষা প্রচলন আইন, ১৯৮৭ |trans-chapter=Bengali Language Implementation Act, 1987 |title= Bangladesh Code|script-title=বাংলাদেশ কোড |trans-title= |chapter-url= http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/pdf/705___.pdf|dead-url= |language=bn |volume=27 |issue= |others= |edition=Online |location=Dhaka |publisher=Ministry of Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs, Bangladesh |date= |page= |pages= |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date=2019-05-23 }}
{{
cite book}}
: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url=
(
help); Invalid |script-chapter=
: missing prefix (
help); Invalid |script-title=
: missing prefix (
help); URL–wikilink conflict (
help)— Trappist the monk ( talk) 15:49, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
|trans-chapter=
because that parameter is not linked by |chapter-url=
. Yeah, this is only good if there is a valid target for the English translation title.
{{cite book |chapter=Bangla Bhasha Procholon Ain, 1987 |script-chapter=বাংলা ভাষা প্রচলন আইন, ১৯৮৭ |trans-chapter=[[Bengali Language Implementation Act, 1987]] |title= Bangladesh Code|script-title=বাংলাদেশ কোড |trans-title= |chapter-url= http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/pdf/705___.pdf|dead-url= |language=bn |volume=27 |issue= |others= |edition=Online |location=Dhaka |publisher=Ministry of Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs, Bangladesh |date= |page= |pages= |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date=2019-05-23 }}
{{
cite book}}
: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url=
(
help); Invalid |script-chapter=
: missing prefix (
help); Invalid |script-title=
: missing prefix (
help)
All words added.
AManWithNoPlan (
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16:58, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ Resolved}}
I believe there are two problems at work here:
Accordingly, I believe the best way forward would be to submit a new request for approval at WP:BRFA. @ AManWithNoPlan:, if you wish to step up and be the maintainer of record, it would fall to you to make the formal request. It seems to me that an accepted BRFA would make it clear that the bot should be unblocked. Uninvited Company 17:48, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
The concerns in the first bullet may be 'legitimate', but it is also unfounded and irrelevant. Bot policy require that concerns and messages are addressed by either the bot op or others maintainers and helpers. Since maintainers are clearly active, the operation of the bot is fully compliant with WP:BOTCOMM. Likewise, WP:BOTPOL requires that the operator of the bot is identified, and they are: User:Smith609, as the banner at the top of User:Citation bot makes it clear. Likewise, User talk:Citation bot makes it clear who the maintainers are: User:Smith609, User:Kaldari, and User:AManWithNoPlan. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 21:50, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
This Citation Style 1 template is used to create citations for news articles in print, video, audio or web.-- Izno ( talk) 12:19, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Before 2014, editors needed to decide whether to use {{Cite web}} or {{Cite news}} based on their features. In 2014, however, most of the differences between the two templates were eliminated. As of 29 July 2016, {{Cite web}} and {{Cite news}} have the following differences: {{Cite news}} can be used for offline (paper) sources whereas {{Cite web}} generates a missing URL error when no URL is provided...But given the same set of valid parameters, their output is exactly the same". "Offline (paper) sources" is distinct. Pyxis Solitary yak 12:45, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ resolved}} I don't care anymore if {{bots|deny=Citation bot}} is a "blunt instrument". Do not remove it from any articles until the problems with the bot has have been fixed. I am out of patience with bad changes. Thank you. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:50, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
I fixed the citations that caused trouble. The issues are 1. Meta data for non journals being presented to the bot using journal style descriptions. The bots additions add information, but poorly allocated to the template parameters. 2. Local vs Zulu time. Can give you a date that is one different than expected. Really unsolvable. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
The bot is currently blocked. See above. In the mean time use gadget mode.
AManWithNoPlan (
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15:00, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
We are rolling out the new OAuth based code while blocked, thus instead of failing at write, the bot fails instantly now. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 21:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
|title=ScienceDirect
should be replaced.
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1791
AManWithNoPlan (
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21:51, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
|volume=Vol. 46 Iss. 3
|volume=46
|issue=3
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1792
AManWithNoPlan (
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21:51, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
One more for the bad title list: Cur_Title -- Redalert2fan ( talk) 16:58, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ fixed}}
Seems to be because the page is dead, but not a good title anyways.
Redalert2fan (
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21:13, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the bot is being used by someone who is evading a block to continually follow around two other editors; and there is apparently no way to prevent this with the current configuration. And nothing to prevent other LTAs from doing the same to other editors. If the bot can be modified to resolve this problem, an admin can unblock without talking to me first, but my understanding is this is going to be very difficult. I'm sorry, I know this bot is very useful to a lot of good faith volunteers.
For background, see here. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 23:11, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Floquenbeam Or someone else. Please unblock the account. 20:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Is the OAuth work completed such that it is no longer possible to trigger the bot anonymously? Uninvited Company 15:35, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
I just tried it on my sandbox page and got an error, fwiw. Uninvited Company 20:10, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Way back when, citation bot was doing things like
[25], adding |postscript=<!-- none -->
to citations that got followed by a period.
This behaviour is long gone, but the stuff remains in article. This should be cleaned up because things like
{{Cite journal | journal = Nature | volume = 389 | issue = 162–164 | year = 1997 | doi = 10.1038/38241 | title = Direct observation of a fractional charge | first1 = R. | last1 = de-Picciotto | first2 = M. | last2 = Reznikov | first3 = M. | last3 = Heiblum | first4 = V. | last4 = Umansky | first5 = G. | last5 = Bunin | first6 = D. | last6 = Mahalu | pages = 162 | postscript = <!--None-->}}.
results in
Notice the double dot at the end.
These should be cleaned up to
{{Cite journal | journal = Nature | volume = 389 | issue = 162–164 | year = 1997 | doi = 10.1038/38241 | title = Direct observation of a fractional charge | first1 = R. | last1 = de-Picciotto | first2 = M. | last2 = Reznikov | first3 = M. | last3 = Heiblum | first4 = V. | last4 = Umansky | first5 = G. | last5 = Bunin | first6 = D. | last6 = Mahalu | pages = 162 }}
to give the proper
So basically, if you find |postscript=<!--None-->
(case/spacing insensitive, as long as the content of the comment is 'none'), remove it. And if a CS1 template without |mode=cs2
, or a {{
citation}} with |mode=cs1
, is followed with a dot after the final }}
, remove that dot.
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{{ fixed}} as well as it be. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 23:48, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Back soon we hope. In mean time use gadget mode.
{{ fixed}}
Link to in progress pull, if someone can look at it. https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1624 and comment. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 03:20, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
PLEASE TRY this. It appears to work now. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 19:58, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Uh, the weird thing seems to be that when I ask to run the bot, the edits are made under my account, rather than under the bot's account... Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 20:18, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Extended content
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Everyone should have actually read the discussions more carefully over the last year about this issue, since literally none of this is news (obviously we all made wrong assumptions, since no one said “you seem to be talking about different things”). AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 21:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
In any case, could the recent OAuth changes be undeployed ASAP? In the meantime, I have made EF request to prevent unauthorized bot runs on user accounts. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 02:44, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
So, having the user id and bot switching places in the edit summary is the end of the world. I could add code to make the bot check if itself is blocked. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 16:53, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
You can filter your watch list to no show the citation bot based upon the tags. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 17:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC) "it's also that these edits and runs get performed from unflagged accounts, being able to destructively run on large amounts of pages that the bot was never meant to be run on" -- how is that any different whether the bot is set to write as itself or as a user? Are there pages that are in some way flagged to not allow bots to edit? AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 17:37, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
I have talked to Smith and he liked it the old way, so I should have code deployed soon. I have been pushing the discussion hard to try to figure out what is really troubling people, and all I have gotten is "it is better when the bot does it", which is enough if Smith likes it that way. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Someone needs to unblock the bot, because the security problem is fixed by forcing edits to be done as the user. We are working on conversion to writing as the bot but with verifiable user names because of people who don’t like seeing bots on their watchlist. Either way, the need for the block is gone. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 12:42, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/davidbarratt AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 01:16, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
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Reading the above discussion in more depth, I wonder if the 'check for block' point has been misunderstood. I was never suggesting the bot needs to check if it itself is block. I guess this is useful if the bot is allowed to operate from random unsanctioned accounts, but that is still a problem for other reasons so was never likely to be an acceptable solution. My point was the bot needed to check that the user activating was not blocked since otherwise the misuse would be harder to stop even with disclosure and verification of the user activating. If the bot is only running from its own account as it should be, then checking whether it is blocked is not quite so important. Probably the bot does need some sort of basic sanity check otherwise it could break when it is unblocked if it doesn't understand it was blocked before and its edits failed. (It could just completely break when it is blocked and needed to be manually killed or something. And flooding the servers with denied requests may be a problem from the WMF's POV. But those don't really affect us directly here.) In any case, if there's still a lot of misunderstanding over what's being request going on, maybe it would be helpful if people summarise somewhere what they plan to do. In sufficient detail so there should be no confusion but not so much that no one will read it. Then hopefully someone with more knowledge will have the time to say whether it's right or not. Nil Einne ( talk) 11:46, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1827
AManWithNoPlan (
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23:08, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
As well as
|postscript=<!-- None-->
(as detailed
here)also cover
|postscript=<!-- Bot inserted parameter. Either remove it; or change its value to "." for the cite to end in a ".", as necessary. -->
Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 00:30, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ fixed}}
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1829
AManWithNoPlan (
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23:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
If you have
{{cite journal |title=Selenium Chloride and Bromide Equilibria in Aprotic Solvents; A <sup>77</sup>Se NMR Study |journal=Polyhedron |year=1990 |volume=9 |pages=589–595 |doi=10.1016/S0277-5387(00)86238-5}}
the bot won't expand it.
However, if you have
{{cite journal |journal=Polyhedron |year=1990 |volume=9 |pages=589–595 |doi=10.1016/S0277-5387(00)86238-5}}
{{
cite journal}}
: Missing or empty |title=
(
help)then the bot will expand it to
Title mismatches aren't important when the DOI is provided. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 17:11, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1828 should help a lot
AManWithNoPlan (
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23:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
{{
fixed}}
AManWithNoPlan (
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00:44, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Note that apart from the year being 0001 which is quite unlikely the date starts with a - and dates should obviously not be negative.
Redalert2fan (
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19:01, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
AdsAbs is giving the 999 error again, It seems we have used up all our uses. Is it correct that we have 25000 in total per x amount of time? I think I saw a counter on the web page while running a list of pages. My apologies to everyone else, I probably used 15000 of those haha. Redalert2fan ( talk) 10:15, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Limit busted again. When I ran bibcode bot, they gave me unlimited rates, so I don't see why they couldn't give unlimited rates to this bot either. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 02:56, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
When a certain bibcode (e.g. Bibcode: 2018MNRAS.tmp.2192I) is valid but redirects to a new bibcode (e.g. Bibcode: 2018MNRAS.481..703I) the bibcode should be updated. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 19:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
tmp
ones, and it's always safe to updatee to the most recent / active value.
User:Bibcode Bot used to do that, but it's currently down because of API changes at ADSABS.
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This will help once deployed
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1833/files#diff-47b867068e1aef0388448a571c8c7092
AManWithNoPlan (
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05:03, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Need to expand based upon URL, Chapter-URL, and ChapterURL. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 17:51, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
See also
User talk:Citation bot/Archive 15#remove via when no url give, but doi/other identifiers present.
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|via=
parameter when there is any identifier (save for ISSN, which is crap, and points nowhere useful) and no url. Basically, in line with the relevant part of the documentation "when the URL provided does not make clear the identity of the deliverer".
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https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1840
AManWithNoPlan (
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22:10, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
! Did not receive results from Google API search isbn:9783941957503
That ISBN corresponds to https://frl.publisso.de/resource/frl:5226608
"Did not receive results from Google API search isbn:9783941957503" There is nothing we can do about books Google does not have. The Hive Mind is not all knowing yet.
AManWithNoPlan (
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04:05, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Note the comma removal, and the url handling.
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The API is completely busted. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 23:42, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
{{ fixed}}
We don't remove them unless we can fix them or there is a doi present.
AManWithNoPlan (
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13:51, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1852 AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 14:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
🤔 tool server right now is having some serious black listing problems. Might be related. I know some of the reported issues actually work just find on the test cluster.
AManWithNoPlan (
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02:37, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
I see that crossref returns Szeg{ö and that makes me wonder if there is any way to know what the { means in a name with an reliablity.
AManWithNoPlan (
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19:44, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
This was the Wikipedia standard and then it wasn’t. The bot now only does it for 2007 and later. I should note that using dashes is now the standard too, but we don’t mess with that.
AManWithNoPlan (
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17:42, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:ISBN This style guide. So, you are supposed to use ISBN13, if it exists. Everything 2007 and forward as ISBN13. The bot checks the date and then converts it, if the date is 2007 or newer. This is a change to the old guidance which was to convert them all. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:50, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Interestingly, that citation has a PMID, an ISBN, and a URL. They all point to different end urls about the same thing. So, the via actually is applicable enough for the bot to leave. You as a human have judgement and can remove it.
AManWithNoPlan (
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01:16, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
|via=
is kept when new URLs are added and |via=
isn't updated, or
pointlessly kept around.
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[[ANTIC (magazine)|''ANTIC'']]
AManWithNoPlan (
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02:29, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
{{
cite journal}}
: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |journal=
(
help)When you have something like
{{cite journal |author1=Vennes |first1=S. |last2=Kawka |first2=A. |year=2008 |title=On the empirical evidence for the existence of ultramassive white dwarfs |journal=Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society |volume=389 |issue=3 |pages=1367 |arxiv=0806.4742 |bibcode=2008MNRAS.389.1367V |doi=10.1111/j.1365-2966.2008.13652.x }}
It should be cleaned up to
{{cite journal |last1=Vennes |first1=S. |last2=Kawka |first2=A. |year=2008 |title=On the empirical evidence for the existence of ultramassive white dwarfs |journal=Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society |volume=389 |issue=3 |pages=1367 |arxiv=0806.4742 |bibcode=2008MNRAS.389.1367V |doi=10.1111/j.1365-2966.2008.13652.x }}
Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 16:55, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Done.
https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/pull/1861 {{
fixed}}.
AManWithNoPlan (
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17:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Not sure how safe this is, but it's worth investigation. I believe we're doing similar things with PDF at the start of the title though.
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agency: The news agency (wire service) that provided the content; examples: Associated Press, Reuters, Agence France-Presse. May be wikilinked if relevant.-- Izno ( talk) 18:25, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Original: "FDA's New Regulations for E-Cigarettes, Cigars, and All Other Tobacco Products". United States Department of Health and Human Services. United States Food and Drug Administration. 17 August 2017.
Agency removed: "FDA's New Regulations for E-Cigarettes, Cigars, and All Other Tobacco Products". United States Food and Drug Administration. 17 August 2017.
What is the best way to reformat this citation? I would like the bot to fix it without me trying to fix it. QuackGuru ( talk) 18:28, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
|agency=
refers to wire services like Reuters and not government agencies.
AManWithNoPlan (
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19:32, 25 June 2019 (UTC)It changed the FDA citations to "cite journal". [51] QuackGuru ( talk) 04:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Citation bot should not shorten first names, as it was not always easy to find what that first name was. Urhixidur ( talk) 12:53, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
I did a page search for "United States Department of Health and Human Services". I just noticed the same problem with the Surgeon General citations. I restored the issue for one of the citations for the bot to undo. QuackGuru ( talk) 21:51, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
We don’t always do it, since some things should have volume/vol in the text (volume is part of the actual title for many books and should not use volume parameter, but they do). Will adjust code for this case.
AManWithNoPlan (
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04:02, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
volume is part of the actual title for many books and should not use volume parameter, but they doWhere is this assertion coming from? I routinely remove volume from title. -- Izno ( talk) 12:03, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
It already tries to this. If no expansion is successful, then we revert to the original. Sometime ResearchGate lets us in, and often not.
AManWithNoPlan (
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22:19, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
<ref>[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23907078_Far-infrared_sources_in_the_vicinity_of_the_supernova_remnant_W28 Bla bla bla]</ref>
→ <ref>[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23907078 Bla bla bla]</ref>
though. Not critical however.
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That’s really weird.
AManWithNoPlan (
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13:16, 3 July 2019 (UTC)