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Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations. WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Jytdog ( talk) 16:48, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
hi there, I added the initial link back as I genuinely thought someone had wrongly removed my edit (since anybody can edit a wiki page). Thanks for your help and appreciate you are all volunteers and yes it is a learning curve, I have made many good edits to Wikipedia over many years and yes a couple of times edits have been changed when someone has kindly pointed out to me and explained why my edit was removed. I genuinely thought that was a credible research paper, it's certainly more credible than the untrue and unscientific stuff on that page that has cited to merely to the DEA - example
Other side effects include high heart rate and blood pressure, liver toxicity, and trouble sleeping. [1] [2] - none if this is true (if so, where is the citation?)
I have added a link to another study, which I'm sure you will agree abides by Wikipedia's rules. You will note I have had this account for a long time with no warnings and the last thing I want to do is have my account removed, since I value it very much, as I also value Wikipedia. Please feel free to check, there are a few other changes I should like to make to that page and I value any input from you or other wikipedia editors, after all, the point of Wikipedia is to be a credible source of information.
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Christopherbrian ( talk) 18:25, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi there, Jytdog I added two credible links in replacement of the link you said did not abide by the wiki standards. I also changed it to point out the 15 deaths attributed to Kratom were deaths related to M. speciosa in the 3-Factor Analysis, 9 involved other drugs (often many other drugs), 1 involved alcohol, 1 involved complicating health issues (hypoxic encephalopathy), and 1 involved depression/suicide (self-inflicted gunshot). This was deleted, as it said snopes.com was not credible, so I am looking to find exactly where snopes.com got that info from, as I believe it to be true. It does seem to me that this page is being heavily edited to be biassed against kratom rather than impartial, which is NOT what wikipedia is about and is not why I donate money to you every month. Christopherbrian ( talk) 20:06, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
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Jytdog - I added two links that conformed to Wikipedia standards as per your request, however the two links have been removed by another wikipedia editor (so fast he didn't even have time to look at them). Please can you tell me the procedure to complain to wikipedia when somebody is clearly editing a page so it is biassed and not impartial. I'm truly shocked at this as I have always had so much respect for Wikipedia in the past.
Your recent editing history at Mitragyna speciosa shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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Hi Jytdog
Thank you for your reply and please be assured the last thing I want to be involved with is an edit war (something I've never heard of). The two articles I linked to did abide by wikipedia standards, and the person who removed them didn't even read them. How am I supposed to know who removed them, in fact, I thought I'd accidentally removed them with another edit. I'm trying to get the article to be fair and balanced yet their is clearly a policy here that no links to credible articles are permitted on the m. speciosa page. I have no intention of wasting my valuable free time editing that page any more, since it is quite clear the page is censored to be anti-kratom.
To be fair you have replied to my questions in a polite and fair manner, I would appreciate it if you could remove the Edit War warning, since that is most unfair, if anything, the person who removed the two links that I sourced that were in line with Wikipedia guidelines (as per your request) should be the one on the receiving end of an Edit Warning. I love Wikipedia, but not every single user is familiar with the rules or how the tags work, it took me ages to figure out how to add those perfectly reasonable changes, yet in return for giving up my free time, I get the links removed and insulted with an Edit Warning. You say I can always ask, but where do I ask? And what is the point in asking when properly made changes with links to academic studies in line with Wikipedia policy are removed. I shall look into dispute resolution - however of course, like you, I also have a job and I'm doing this in my free time. All I'm trying to do is provide factual information, yet still even when I abided by the conditions you laid out to me, my posts were deleted and I have been personally offended and insulted with an Edit Warning, despite being a loyal user and contributor to wikipedia for many years. Check my account - do you see that I have been involved in any Edit Wars in the past, in fact, I've corrected some terrible errors in the past that my eagle eye has spotted. The reason I tried to change the kratom page a bit, was because it is terribly inaccurate and full of wrong information, - I have been working with the University of Turin for many years researching into kratom, so this isn't some kid who doesn't know what he's talking about.
I have contacted a friend who works for Newsweek who has already written about kratom recently, which is of interest ATM in the news since the DEA might schedule it, to see if he is interested in a story about wikipedia being censored to not give fair and factual information. As stated, I love Wikipedia, I help correct errors from time to time and donate financially, I'm completely shocked to be treated in such a way and to see such blatant censorship - what reason would wikipedia have not providing access to kratom studies that meet the wikipedia standards, i.e., published in good quality journals, or statements by major medical/scientific bodies. Your statement that I ignored your advice is simply incorrect and I should like you to review that and reconsider. With behaviour like this, I shall be scared to make edits to Wikipedia for fear of a perhaps well-meaning, but ill-informed editor disabling my account.
Jytdog the kratom page says little research has been done into the health effects, 24 links here (I have more) to show that statement is simply not true, the only citation you give is a very poor study that is linked repeatedly on the m speciosa page. Is it possible for the page to tell the truth, or will I just be wasting my time and risk having my valued Wikipedia account deleted?
1. Jansen KL, Prast CJ. Ethnopharmacology of kratom and the Mitragyna alkaloids. J Ethnopharmacol. 1988;23(1):115-119. doi: dx.doi.org/10.1016/0378-8741(88)90121-3. http://uka.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Ethnopharmacology_of_kratom_and_the_Mitragyna_alkaloids.pdf 2. Disalvo D. Results Of My Kratom Experiment. David Disalvo. Published April 5th, 2013. http://www.daviddisalvo.org/the-daily-brain/2013/4/5/results-of-my-kratom-experiment.html. Accessed March 8, 2016.
3. Hassan Z, Muzaimi M, Navaratnam V, et al. From Kratom to mitragynine and its derivatives: Physiological and behavioural effects related to use, abuse, and addiction. Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews. 2013;37(2):138-151. doi: 10.1016/j.neubiorev.2012.11.012. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23206666
4. Harizal SN, Mansor SM, Hasnan J, Tharakan JKJ, Abdullah J. Acute toxicity study of the standardized methanolic extract of Mitragyna speciosa Korth in Rodent. J Ethnopharmacol. 2010;131(2):404-409. doi: 10.1016/j.jep.2010.07.013. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20643198 5. Reanmongkol W, Keawpradub N, Sawangjaroen K. Effects of the extracts from Mitragyna speciosa Korth leaves on analgesic and behavioral activities in experimental animals. Songklanakarin J Sci Technol. 2007;29(Suppl 1):39-48. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kitja_Sawangjaroen/publication/26469428_Effects_of_the_extracts_from_Mitragyna_speciosa_Korth._leaves_on_analgesic_and_behavioral_activities_in_experimental_animals/links/02e7e520a59f4a8d17000000.pdf. Published March, 2007. Accessed March 28, 2016.
6. Warner ML, Kaufman NC, Grundmann O. The pharmacology and toxicology of kratom: from traditional herb to drug of abuse. Int J Legal Med. 2016;130(1):127-138. doi: 10.1007/s00414-015-1279-y. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26511390
7. Forrester MB. Kratom Exposures Reported to Texas Poison Centers. Journal of Addictive Diseases. 2013;32(4):396-400. doi: 10.1080/10550887.2013.854153. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24325774
8. Huus K. Asian leaf “kratom” making presence felt in US emergency rooms - U.S. News. NBC News. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/19/10760892-asian-leaf-kratom-making-presence-felt-in-us-emergency-rooms. Published March 19, 2013. Accessed March 3, 2016.
9. SAMHSA. The DAWN Report: Highlights of the 2011 Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) Findings on Drug-Related Emergency Department Visits. http://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/DAWN127/DAWN127/sr127-DAWN-highlights.pdf. Published 2013. Accessed March 28th, 2016.
10. Cornara L, Borghesi B, Canali C, et al. Smart drugs: green shuttle or real drug? International J Legal Med. 2013;127(6):1109-1123. doi: 10.1007/s00414-013-0893-9. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23842669
11 .Prozialeck WC, Jivan JK, Andurkar SV. Pharmacology of kratom: an emerging botanical agent with stimulant, analgesic and opioid-like effects. J Am Osteopath Assoc. 2012;112(12):792-799. doi: 10.7556/jaoa.2012.112.12.792. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23212430
12. Idid, SZ, Saad, LB, Yaacob, H, Shahimi, MM. Evaluation of analgesia induced by mitragynine, morphine, and paracetamol in mice. 1998; ASEAN Review of Biodiversity and Environmental Conservation. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Lamees_Bensaad3/publication/237217107_Evaluation_of_analgesia_induced_by_mitragynine_morphine_and_paracetamol_on_mice/links/53ef28180cf26b9b7dcdea57.pdf?inViewer=0&pdfJsDownload=0&origin=publication_detail. Published May, 1998. Accessed April 26th, 2016.
13. Vicknasingam B, Narayanan S, Beng GT, Mansor SM. The informal use of ketum (Mitragyna speciosa) for opioid withdrawal in the northern states of peninsular Malaysia and implications for drug substitution therapy. Int J Drug Policy. 2010;21(4):283-288. doi: 10.1016/j.drugpo.2009.12.003. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20092998 14. Ahmad K, Aziz Z. Mitragyna speciosa use in the northern states of Malaysia: a cross-sectional study. J Ethnopharmacol. 2012;141(1):446-450. doi: 10.1016/j.jep.2012.03.009. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22440259
16. Saingam D, Assanangkornchai S, Geater AF, Balthip Q. Pattern and consequences of krathom (Mitragyna speciosa Korth.) use among male villagers in southern Thailand: A qualitative study. International Journal of Drug Policy. 2013;24 (4):351-358. doi: 10.1016/j.drugpo.2012.09.004. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23083922 17. Tanguay P. Kratom in Thailand. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1908849. Published April, 2011. Accessed March 9th, 2016.
18. Hazim AI, Ramanathan S, Parthasarathy S, Muzaimi M, Mansor SM. Anxiolytic-like effects of mitragynine in the open-field and elevated plus-maze tests in rats. J Physiol Sci. 2014;64(3):161-169. doi: 10.1007/s12576-014-0304-0. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24464759
19. Idayu NF, Hidayat MT, Moklas M a. M, et al. Antidepressant-like effect of mitragynine isolated from Mitragyna speciosa Korth in mice model of depression. Phytomedicine. 2011;18(5):402-407. doi: 10.1016/j.phymed.2010.08.011. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20869223
20. Utar Z, Majid MIA, Adenan MI, Jamil MFA, Lan TM. Mitragynine inhibits the COX-2 mRNA expression and prostaglandin E₂ production induced by lipopolysaccharide in RAW264.7 macrophage cells. J Ethnopharmacol. 2011;136(1):75-82. doi: 10.1016/j.jep.2011.04.011. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21513785
21. Cinosi E, Martinotti G, Simonato P, et al. Following “the Roots” of Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa): The Evolution of an Enhancer from a Traditional Use to Increase Work and Productivity in Southeast Asia to a Recreational Psychoactive Drug in Western Countries. Biomed Res Int. 2015;2015. doi: 10.1155/2015/968786. https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2015/968786/
22. Arizona State Legislature. House Bill 5526. http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/51leg/ 2r/laws/0036.pdf. Published August, 2014. Accessed March 8th, 2016. 23. Illinois State Legislature. House Bill 5526. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?Doc Name=&SessionId=85&GA=98&DocTypeId=HB&DocNum=5526&GAID=12&LegID=&SpecSess=&Session=. Published August 18th, 2014. Accessed March 8th, 2016. 24. Wallman B. Broward Acts Not to Ban Kratom – For Now. Sun Sentinal. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fl-kratom-ban-broward-20141028-story.html. Published October 28th, 2014. Accessed March 8th, 2016.
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Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations. WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note. Jytdog ( talk) 16:48, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
hi there, I added the initial link back as I genuinely thought someone had wrongly removed my edit (since anybody can edit a wiki page). Thanks for your help and appreciate you are all volunteers and yes it is a learning curve, I have made many good edits to Wikipedia over many years and yes a couple of times edits have been changed when someone has kindly pointed out to me and explained why my edit was removed. I genuinely thought that was a credible research paper, it's certainly more credible than the untrue and unscientific stuff on that page that has cited to merely to the DEA - example
Other side effects include high heart rate and blood pressure, liver toxicity, and trouble sleeping. [1] [2] - none if this is true (if so, where is the citation?)
I have added a link to another study, which I'm sure you will agree abides by Wikipedia's rules. You will note I have had this account for a long time with no warnings and the last thing I want to do is have my account removed, since I value it very much, as I also value Wikipedia. Please feel free to check, there are a few other changes I should like to make to that page and I value any input from you or other wikipedia editors, after all, the point of Wikipedia is to be a credible source of information.
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Christopherbrian ( talk) 18:25, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi there, Jytdog I added two credible links in replacement of the link you said did not abide by the wiki standards. I also changed it to point out the 15 deaths attributed to Kratom were deaths related to M. speciosa in the 3-Factor Analysis, 9 involved other drugs (often many other drugs), 1 involved alcohol, 1 involved complicating health issues (hypoxic encephalopathy), and 1 involved depression/suicide (self-inflicted gunshot). This was deleted, as it said snopes.com was not credible, so I am looking to find exactly where snopes.com got that info from, as I believe it to be true. It does seem to me that this page is being heavily edited to be biassed against kratom rather than impartial, which is NOT what wikipedia is about and is not why I donate money to you every month. Christopherbrian ( talk) 20:06, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello again
Jytdog - I added two links that conformed to Wikipedia standards as per your request, however the two links have been removed by another wikipedia editor (so fast he didn't even have time to look at them). Please can you tell me the procedure to complain to wikipedia when somebody is clearly editing a page so it is biassed and not impartial. I'm truly shocked at this as I have always had so much respect for Wikipedia in the past.
Your recent editing history at Mitragyna speciosa shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog ( talk) 20:28, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Jytdog
Thank you for your reply and please be assured the last thing I want to be involved with is an edit war (something I've never heard of). The two articles I linked to did abide by wikipedia standards, and the person who removed them didn't even read them. How am I supposed to know who removed them, in fact, I thought I'd accidentally removed them with another edit. I'm trying to get the article to be fair and balanced yet their is clearly a policy here that no links to credible articles are permitted on the m. speciosa page. I have no intention of wasting my valuable free time editing that page any more, since it is quite clear the page is censored to be anti-kratom.
To be fair you have replied to my questions in a polite and fair manner, I would appreciate it if you could remove the Edit War warning, since that is most unfair, if anything, the person who removed the two links that I sourced that were in line with Wikipedia guidelines (as per your request) should be the one on the receiving end of an Edit Warning. I love Wikipedia, but not every single user is familiar with the rules or how the tags work, it took me ages to figure out how to add those perfectly reasonable changes, yet in return for giving up my free time, I get the links removed and insulted with an Edit Warning. You say I can always ask, but where do I ask? And what is the point in asking when properly made changes with links to academic studies in line with Wikipedia policy are removed. I shall look into dispute resolution - however of course, like you, I also have a job and I'm doing this in my free time. All I'm trying to do is provide factual information, yet still even when I abided by the conditions you laid out to me, my posts were deleted and I have been personally offended and insulted with an Edit Warning, despite being a loyal user and contributor to wikipedia for many years. Check my account - do you see that I have been involved in any Edit Wars in the past, in fact, I've corrected some terrible errors in the past that my eagle eye has spotted. The reason I tried to change the kratom page a bit, was because it is terribly inaccurate and full of wrong information, - I have been working with the University of Turin for many years researching into kratom, so this isn't some kid who doesn't know what he's talking about.
I have contacted a friend who works for Newsweek who has already written about kratom recently, which is of interest ATM in the news since the DEA might schedule it, to see if he is interested in a story about wikipedia being censored to not give fair and factual information. As stated, I love Wikipedia, I help correct errors from time to time and donate financially, I'm completely shocked to be treated in such a way and to see such blatant censorship - what reason would wikipedia have not providing access to kratom studies that meet the wikipedia standards, i.e., published in good quality journals, or statements by major medical/scientific bodies. Your statement that I ignored your advice is simply incorrect and I should like you to review that and reconsider. With behaviour like this, I shall be scared to make edits to Wikipedia for fear of a perhaps well-meaning, but ill-informed editor disabling my account.
Jytdog the kratom page says little research has been done into the health effects, 24 links here (I have more) to show that statement is simply not true, the only citation you give is a very poor study that is linked repeatedly on the m speciosa page. Is it possible for the page to tell the truth, or will I just be wasting my time and risk having my valued Wikipedia account deleted?
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