{{helpme}}
I am looking for help creating a template from someone that is familiar with all the code and how that all works. In the past, I remember there being a place where they have a list of users who are knowledgeable about this but I can't remember where it is. I need to either find that list of editors, or get help from a user that is knowledgeable.► Chris Nelson Holla! 02:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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L'Aquatique, I tweaked the arguments a bit and now it works (see above change). Seems odd, no? — Wknight94 ( talk) 20:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I fixed the number column and got the colors working correctly I think (see above). What's next? — Wknight94 ( talk) 01:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Well how come Template:Atlanta Hawks roster is spread out horizontally and takes up the whole page?► Chris Nelson Holla! 19:25, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I did at first, but then I realized it wouldn't sort right (or at least not without things getting complicated) so I used the age template and now it just displays that, which is easily sortable and really all the necessary info anyway.
Yeah I know there is a way, I just forget how.
Also, I opened the template up in IE and it came up clean too, so it looks fine in Firefox and IE for me.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't understand your question. Thanks for the help with the rookie thing, by the way. Can you add the appropriate edit to the template in Template:NFLplayer?► Chris Nelson Holla! 06:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
...I still think it's too much information being presented. The sortability is nice, but I can go to any team website and do the same sorting – and they're the ones filling out all that info, not me or Chris. Right now it's very difficult to follow as an 80+ alphabetical list of names; it's a lot easier to pick out certain positions and a quick look at reserve lists with the old template. Sometimes simpler is better and much clearer. I agree that this style template is good for small rosters like in the NBA – but once you get above 20 or 25 players, nevermind 53 – it's just a shitload of numbers and info filling up the entire page, and then some. Pats1 T/ C 16:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
The heights and weights are irrelevant to you, because I'll handle it all. Plus, I always use the official websites for the heights and weights on player articles for consistency, so they always come from the same place. But like I said, that is stuff i will handle (and already do with the player articles) so it doesn't affect you.
Furthermore, the template offers things the player articles or rosters on official sites do not. They offer a sortability the individual player articles obviously do not, and they offer sortability on more complete, detailed and accurate rosters than the official sites usually have, as you well know. The advantages of this template are clear, while your only arguments against it are either untrue (extra work) or insignificant (length).► Chris Nelson Holla! 17:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
The situations are not comparable.► Chris Nelson Holla! 18:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Not enough to make this template not ridiculously awesome.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
The fact is there has yet to be a legitimate reason why these templates cannot be on Wikipedia.► Chris Nelson Holla! 02:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm not trying to create a standard, I adopted the NBA template because I think it'd be useful as an NFL template. It will, and that's why I'm going to keep it on Wikipedia somewhere. You can have your player lists if you want, but the rosters like this will stay because it's all good info and will definitely be useful. I know I'll use it all the time and I know others will too. This is not comparable to the Chris Long IP user situation, by the way, because his content was not relevant when it came to the encyclopedia, while the content in the roster template is.► Chris Nelson Holla! 02:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
The simple fact is this is a very good, informative template and you cannot come up with good reasons that it should be excluded altogether. Perhaps the old style does have its uses, but so does this one and to be so against such a template even being on Wikipedia is wrong. That is why I will make sure it stays somewhere in this encyclopedia. No way in hell you can keep it out completely just because it doesn't have certain perks of something else. It has plenty of its own perks, and would add good info to the team articles. It's not going anywhere.► Chris Nelson Holla! 02:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
If you're going to be obtuse it's going to be a lot harder to discuss. It'd help if you'd stop bringing up the same "issues" that I've already explained. Yes, you can link the official website and get a similar roster to my template, but will be it as accurate? No. That's the beauty of our rosters – they are always more accurate than the official websites. Do the official sites offer sorting like mine? Yeah, but they do not offer sorting on 100% accurate rosters, which we would. That is the key difference, and it's why we don't simply link the official site from the beginning. Because we do it better.
And yeah, your opinion matters. But your personal opinion has nothing to do with whether or not it's relevant. If you don't care to use something on the encyclopedia, that's your own thing. But it doesn't mean it isn't relevant or useful to others. This template would be, and that is a fact. Therefore your lack of interest in the template is irrelevant when it comes to its presence on the encyclopedia. I'm never going to use the All My Children article, but others will and that's why it should be here. Myself and others will use the new template, which is why it should and will stay.► Chris Nelson Holla! 17:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
So, the current solution is that the current roster templates will linked to the expanded detailed ones, correct? Bjewiki ( Talk) 15:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking we could set up a list article like something I have started in my sandbox, with the correct colors, of course. If you want a detailed roster, it might as well include all of the details. -- bmitchelf• T• F 18:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
It's not redundant because they both serve different purposes. One is essentially just a small list of the players, the other is a full roster will all other kinds of sortable info. They can both stay because they have two very different purposes.► Chris Nelson Holla! 17:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I undid your revision of my previous edit regarding Brandon Inge being the Tigers starting catcher. I understand fully that this is not a depth chart, and the policy is to follow the rosters on MLB.com as closely as possible. However, we all know how slow MLB.com can be to update rosters at times, and how many mistakes they make. There had been many articles published from MLB.com & detroittigers.com, the Detroit Free Press (www.freep.com) and other sources quote Leyland, Dombrowski and others regarding Inge's status as starting catcher now that Pudge has been traded. Additionally, I watch nearly every Tigers game and can confirm that Inge has started all since Pudge left. Not trying to start a "rivision war" here, but I respectfully submit that an exception to the norm be made in this case, as Sardinha is NOT the Tigers everyday catcher. Mattfranko81 ( talk) 22:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I was checking out your new NFL Player template. I like it, especially the custom sorting weights. I was going to help you out, and add a couple commons ones that I thought were missing (RB/KR, WR/PR, etc). Quick suggestion though. Why weight the sorting differently for secondary positions? It seems like a WR should be weighted the same as a WR/TE or WR/KR or WR/PR. (Of course, I'm assuming you can give two items the same sort weight here).
For instance, I think this:
Jason Avant WR
Reggie Brown WR
Kevin Curtis WR
Michael Gasperson WR/TE
DeSean Jackson WR/PR
Jammal Jones WR
Greg Lewis WR
Would be preferrable to this:
Jason Avant WR
Reggie Brown WR
Kevin Curtis WR
Jammal Jones WR
Greg Lewis WR
Michael Gasperson WR/TE
DeSean Jackson WR/PR
Any thoughts?
Bjewiki ( Talk) 12:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Chris,
I was wondering where you got the info that the Oakland Raiders signed Glenn Pakulak. NFL tranaction list doesn't show the transaction ( http://www.nfl.com/transactions) and neither does spider site kffl (allthough kffl often misses stuff). Cheers, Z Doc ( talk) 12:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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Yeah, I planned on doing that when the preseason was over. But to keep up with the info, I just did it game-by-game like it is now. John ( talk) 23:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Why did you move Chad Johnson to Chad Ocho Cinco? Burner0718 Jibba Jabba! 20:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Per WP:COMMONNAME, "Use the most common name of a person or thing" Chad Johnson is by far the most common name, and I would bet the barn that he will still be called and known as Chad Johnson, even though he has this idiotic "real" name. By all means, if the media accepts it and we stop hearing about Chad Johnson and we start hearing about Chad 85, then by all means move the page back. But right now it needs to be at the destination Chad Johnson. « Gonzo fan2007 ( talk ♦ contribs) @ 18:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Just delaying the inevitable.► Chris Nelson Holla! 18:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Stop the gheyness on the Ocho Cinco talk page. Its just become spam and if it continues I will remove it... HPJoker Leave me a message 19:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
The way I understand the NF/Inj list is that it is basically PUP with a specification on the cause of the injury. PUP still apply which mean that would either have to place him on the active roster or PUP. Since the former is clearly not the case I take it they put him on PUP as reported by NFL.com and Jaguars.com
Huh?► Chris Nelson Holla! 01:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I just double checked the miami herald. It was Josh McCown who got traded, not Beck. I remembered it incorrectly. Halli B ( talk) 05:35, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey Chris, I have deleted this category again, as it still has no navigational use to the project. The category itself is too broadly defined to actually be useful in navigation. Would we add every player who has ever played the QB position to the category? Every Packers player who has been listed as a QB, but never played? Only the starters? Only the main QBs who have played a lot? As you can see, the category is subjective and will never be properly filled. Now you state that all the other teams have it, which is fine and dandy, but there is no reason to embrace a problem just because everyone has the problem. As a compromise, if you want a navigational category for Green Bay Packers QB's, why not create Category:Green Bay Packers starting quarterbacks, which has a very easily defined scope and will allow us to fill the category accurately and not subjectively, and will create a category that will be very useful for navigation? I am of course open to other ideas, but Category:Green Bay Packers quarterbacks really doesnt help with navigation. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 ( talk ♦ contribs) @ 20:08, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
My opposition to deletion was clear the first time it had to re-create it, so deleting it today was admin abuse.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:25, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
$.02: I don't see how having a starting quarterbacks category is "easier to maintain." What if you have someone like Cleo Lemon who started a few games here and there? Is he considered a starting quarterback? Or what if Tom Brady goes down in Week 16 and Matt Cassel starts Week 17? Having just a quarterbacks category is easier to maintain, because it eliminates that element of picking-and-choosing. Pats1 T/ C 20:28, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
{{helpme}}
I am looking for help creating a template from someone that is familiar with all the code and how that all works. In the past, I remember there being a place where they have a list of users who are knowledgeable about this but I can't remember where it is. I need to either find that list of editors, or get help from a user that is knowledgeable.► Chris Nelson Holla! 02:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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L'Aquatique, I tweaked the arguments a bit and now it works (see above change). Seems odd, no? — Wknight94 ( talk) 20:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I fixed the number column and got the colors working correctly I think (see above). What's next? — Wknight94 ( talk) 01:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Well how come Template:Atlanta Hawks roster is spread out horizontally and takes up the whole page?► Chris Nelson Holla! 19:25, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I did at first, but then I realized it wouldn't sort right (or at least not without things getting complicated) so I used the age template and now it just displays that, which is easily sortable and really all the necessary info anyway.
Yeah I know there is a way, I just forget how.
Also, I opened the template up in IE and it came up clean too, so it looks fine in Firefox and IE for me.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't understand your question. Thanks for the help with the rookie thing, by the way. Can you add the appropriate edit to the template in Template:NFLplayer?► Chris Nelson Holla! 06:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
...I still think it's too much information being presented. The sortability is nice, but I can go to any team website and do the same sorting – and they're the ones filling out all that info, not me or Chris. Right now it's very difficult to follow as an 80+ alphabetical list of names; it's a lot easier to pick out certain positions and a quick look at reserve lists with the old template. Sometimes simpler is better and much clearer. I agree that this style template is good for small rosters like in the NBA – but once you get above 20 or 25 players, nevermind 53 – it's just a shitload of numbers and info filling up the entire page, and then some. Pats1 T/ C 16:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
The heights and weights are irrelevant to you, because I'll handle it all. Plus, I always use the official websites for the heights and weights on player articles for consistency, so they always come from the same place. But like I said, that is stuff i will handle (and already do with the player articles) so it doesn't affect you.
Furthermore, the template offers things the player articles or rosters on official sites do not. They offer a sortability the individual player articles obviously do not, and they offer sortability on more complete, detailed and accurate rosters than the official sites usually have, as you well know. The advantages of this template are clear, while your only arguments against it are either untrue (extra work) or insignificant (length).► Chris Nelson Holla! 17:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
The situations are not comparable.► Chris Nelson Holla! 18:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Not enough to make this template not ridiculously awesome.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
The fact is there has yet to be a legitimate reason why these templates cannot be on Wikipedia.► Chris Nelson Holla! 02:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm not trying to create a standard, I adopted the NBA template because I think it'd be useful as an NFL template. It will, and that's why I'm going to keep it on Wikipedia somewhere. You can have your player lists if you want, but the rosters like this will stay because it's all good info and will definitely be useful. I know I'll use it all the time and I know others will too. This is not comparable to the Chris Long IP user situation, by the way, because his content was not relevant when it came to the encyclopedia, while the content in the roster template is.► Chris Nelson Holla! 02:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
The simple fact is this is a very good, informative template and you cannot come up with good reasons that it should be excluded altogether. Perhaps the old style does have its uses, but so does this one and to be so against such a template even being on Wikipedia is wrong. That is why I will make sure it stays somewhere in this encyclopedia. No way in hell you can keep it out completely just because it doesn't have certain perks of something else. It has plenty of its own perks, and would add good info to the team articles. It's not going anywhere.► Chris Nelson Holla! 02:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
If you're going to be obtuse it's going to be a lot harder to discuss. It'd help if you'd stop bringing up the same "issues" that I've already explained. Yes, you can link the official website and get a similar roster to my template, but will be it as accurate? No. That's the beauty of our rosters – they are always more accurate than the official websites. Do the official sites offer sorting like mine? Yeah, but they do not offer sorting on 100% accurate rosters, which we would. That is the key difference, and it's why we don't simply link the official site from the beginning. Because we do it better.
And yeah, your opinion matters. But your personal opinion has nothing to do with whether or not it's relevant. If you don't care to use something on the encyclopedia, that's your own thing. But it doesn't mean it isn't relevant or useful to others. This template would be, and that is a fact. Therefore your lack of interest in the template is irrelevant when it comes to its presence on the encyclopedia. I'm never going to use the All My Children article, but others will and that's why it should be here. Myself and others will use the new template, which is why it should and will stay.► Chris Nelson Holla! 17:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
So, the current solution is that the current roster templates will linked to the expanded detailed ones, correct? Bjewiki ( Talk) 15:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking we could set up a list article like something I have started in my sandbox, with the correct colors, of course. If you want a detailed roster, it might as well include all of the details. -- bmitchelf• T• F 18:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
It's not redundant because they both serve different purposes. One is essentially just a small list of the players, the other is a full roster will all other kinds of sortable info. They can both stay because they have two very different purposes.► Chris Nelson Holla! 17:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I undid your revision of my previous edit regarding Brandon Inge being the Tigers starting catcher. I understand fully that this is not a depth chart, and the policy is to follow the rosters on MLB.com as closely as possible. However, we all know how slow MLB.com can be to update rosters at times, and how many mistakes they make. There had been many articles published from MLB.com & detroittigers.com, the Detroit Free Press (www.freep.com) and other sources quote Leyland, Dombrowski and others regarding Inge's status as starting catcher now that Pudge has been traded. Additionally, I watch nearly every Tigers game and can confirm that Inge has started all since Pudge left. Not trying to start a "rivision war" here, but I respectfully submit that an exception to the norm be made in this case, as Sardinha is NOT the Tigers everyday catcher. Mattfranko81 ( talk) 22:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I was checking out your new NFL Player template. I like it, especially the custom sorting weights. I was going to help you out, and add a couple commons ones that I thought were missing (RB/KR, WR/PR, etc). Quick suggestion though. Why weight the sorting differently for secondary positions? It seems like a WR should be weighted the same as a WR/TE or WR/KR or WR/PR. (Of course, I'm assuming you can give two items the same sort weight here).
For instance, I think this:
Jason Avant WR
Reggie Brown WR
Kevin Curtis WR
Michael Gasperson WR/TE
DeSean Jackson WR/PR
Jammal Jones WR
Greg Lewis WR
Would be preferrable to this:
Jason Avant WR
Reggie Brown WR
Kevin Curtis WR
Jammal Jones WR
Greg Lewis WR
Michael Gasperson WR/TE
DeSean Jackson WR/PR
Any thoughts?
Bjewiki ( Talk) 12:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Chris,
I was wondering where you got the info that the Oakland Raiders signed Glenn Pakulak. NFL tranaction list doesn't show the transaction ( http://www.nfl.com/transactions) and neither does spider site kffl (allthough kffl often misses stuff). Cheers, Z Doc ( talk) 12:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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Yeah, I planned on doing that when the preseason was over. But to keep up with the info, I just did it game-by-game like it is now. John ( talk) 23:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Why did you move Chad Johnson to Chad Ocho Cinco? Burner0718 Jibba Jabba! 20:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Per WP:COMMONNAME, "Use the most common name of a person or thing" Chad Johnson is by far the most common name, and I would bet the barn that he will still be called and known as Chad Johnson, even though he has this idiotic "real" name. By all means, if the media accepts it and we stop hearing about Chad Johnson and we start hearing about Chad 85, then by all means move the page back. But right now it needs to be at the destination Chad Johnson. « Gonzo fan2007 ( talk ♦ contribs) @ 18:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Just delaying the inevitable.► Chris Nelson Holla! 18:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Stop the gheyness on the Ocho Cinco talk page. Its just become spam and if it continues I will remove it... HPJoker Leave me a message 19:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
The way I understand the NF/Inj list is that it is basically PUP with a specification on the cause of the injury. PUP still apply which mean that would either have to place him on the active roster or PUP. Since the former is clearly not the case I take it they put him on PUP as reported by NFL.com and Jaguars.com
Huh?► Chris Nelson Holla! 01:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I just double checked the miami herald. It was Josh McCown who got traded, not Beck. I remembered it incorrectly. Halli B ( talk) 05:35, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey Chris, I have deleted this category again, as it still has no navigational use to the project. The category itself is too broadly defined to actually be useful in navigation. Would we add every player who has ever played the QB position to the category? Every Packers player who has been listed as a QB, but never played? Only the starters? Only the main QBs who have played a lot? As you can see, the category is subjective and will never be properly filled. Now you state that all the other teams have it, which is fine and dandy, but there is no reason to embrace a problem just because everyone has the problem. As a compromise, if you want a navigational category for Green Bay Packers QB's, why not create Category:Green Bay Packers starting quarterbacks, which has a very easily defined scope and will allow us to fill the category accurately and not subjectively, and will create a category that will be very useful for navigation? I am of course open to other ideas, but Category:Green Bay Packers quarterbacks really doesnt help with navigation. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 ( talk ♦ contribs) @ 20:08, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
My opposition to deletion was clear the first time it had to re-create it, so deleting it today was admin abuse.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:25, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
$.02: I don't see how having a starting quarterbacks category is "easier to maintain." What if you have someone like Cleo Lemon who started a few games here and there? Is he considered a starting quarterback? Or what if Tom Brady goes down in Week 16 and Matt Cassel starts Week 17? Having just a quarterbacks category is easier to maintain, because it eliminates that element of picking-and-choosing. Pats1 T/ C 20:28, 31 August 2008 (UTC)