This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current talk page.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
CSS in templates can now be stored in a separate page on all wikis. This is called
TemplateStyles. This is to make it easier to edit how templates look.
[1]
Changes later this week
There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on
14 August at 18:30 (UTC). See
how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
15 August at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Future changes
The developers are planning more ways to block users. This could be blocking someone from just a page or a namespace. You can
read more. You can leave feedback on the
talk page.
[2]
Hello and welcome to the August 2018 GOCE newsletter. Thanks to everyone who participated in the Guild's June election; your new and returning coordinators are listed below. The next election will occur in December 2018; all Wikipedia editors in good standing may take part.
Our June blitz focused on
Requests and articles tagged for copy edit in October 2017. Of the eleven people who signed up, eight editors recorded a total of 28 copy edits, including 3 articles of more than 10,000 words. Complete results, including barnstars awarded, are available
here.
Thanks to everyone who participated in the July drive. Of the seventeen people who signed up, thirteen editors completed 194 copy edits, successfully removing all articles tagged in the last three months of 2017. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are
here.
The August blitz will run for one week, from 19 to 25 August. Sign up now!
Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Tdslk.
Hi
Sorry to bother u
I think you are an editor In the page of
William II of the Netherlands
He is a king but in his categories he is put as and lgbt head of goverments also with him being lgbt heads of state
So is this right
As a king he is a head of goverment
How is that
Can you please clarify if u dont mind
And thx
AdamPrideTN (
talk) 15:50, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
AdamPrideTNSorry, but I am not familiar with Dutch political systems. So I am not sure whether he was an absolute monarch or a constitutional monarch and whether Dutch kings are regarded as heads of state. Hopefully, someone who knows will respond to your question on the article's talk page.--
Chewings72 (
talk) 05:07, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #326
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
This is the Wikidata summary of the week before 2018-08-20.
JOSM/Plugins/Wikipedia/GSoC 2018: 'Floscher' has been working to improve the Wikidata/Wikipedia-related functionality of the 'JOSM' editor for OpenStreetMap
Design Challenges in Named Entity Transliteration - a paper discussing "fundamental design challenges that impact the development of a multilingual state-of-the-art named entity transliteration system", with reference to Wikidata
Quicksilver: Training an #ML system to generate draft Wikipedia articles and Wikidata entries simultaneously,
slides by John Bohannon and Vedant Dharnidharka
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 August. It will be on all wikis from 23 August (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
22 August at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Future changes
The
2018 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the
Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
Legacy JavaScript global variables have been deprecated for seven years. They will soon be removed from all wikis. Gadgets and scripts that use them will stop working. You can test your community's gadgets on "group0" wikis. For example
Test Wikipedia or
mediawiki.org. The legacy JavaScript global variables are already disabled there. You can
read the migration guide to fix old scripts.
[3]
It's possible to add somevalue and novalue using
QuickStatements, and to use the tool on test.wikidata.org as well.
More properties can be searched using haswbstatement. This includes all properties with "external identifier", "string", "item", "property", "lexeme", "form" and "sense" datatypes, except published in (P1433) and cites (P2860). In addition you may make queries without a specified value.
The page creation and edit rate limit imposed in April will be removed in the next days. However, users who are not bots or administrators are throttled to 90 edits per minute (
which was set up on all Wikimedia wikis in May).
These new languages are now supported for monolingual text strings: mid, mnw, gmy, rar, haz, uga. The language doesn't show up in the suggester, but you can save the statement and it will be stored properly.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
You can now see moved paragraphs in diffs in the mobile view. It also works on all languages in the desktop view.
[4]
Bureaucrats on all Wikimedia wikis can now remove the
interface admin user right.
[5]
Problems
Some diffs show lines in the wrong order. The developers are working on fixing it.
[6]
Changes later this week
The message you see when you thank a user will change. This is to make it easier to understand.
[7]
AWB will stop adding using AWB in the edit summary. Instead it will add a
tag that says AWB.
[8]
Some
abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables
on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says Deprecated. Use ... instead. An example is article_text which is now page_title.
[9]
Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is page_age.
[10]
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 August. It will be on all wikis from 30 August (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on
28 August at 18:30 (UTC). See
how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
29 August at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Future changes
Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at
14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
You can read more about this.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
There is a new user right for users who can edit
CSS and
JavaScript for the entire wiki. Before this all admins could edit CSS and JavaScript. This was a security risk. This group is called
interface administrators. Administrators can delete user CSS and JavaScript pages.
[11][12]
There will be an
A/B test on the Wikipedia mobile website. It starts this week. It tests how we show templates that show information about an article. The test will last two weeks.
[13][14]
You can now use different CSS rules for different skins when you edit templates. This is because of
TemplateStyles.
[15]
When you get a new message on your talk page you get a yellow message in the toolbar. The preference to show or not show this has been removed.
[17]
Problems
UploadWizard had problems with
campaigns. Users could not upload files. This has now been fixed.
[18]
You can get a
notification when a link is made to a page you created. This has not worked since June. It was fixed last week.
[19]
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 September. It will be on all wikis from 6 September (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
5 September at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Future changes
The Wikimedia Foundation
Readers department will work on advanced mobile editing. You can
read more about this and other things they plan to work on over the next year. You can also
see the presentation.
Continued work on merging Lexemes. Merging via the SpecialPage is done and will be rolled out soon. Merging via the API is still being worked on. (
phabricator:T189129)
Long Lemmas in Lexemes look bad because they are not flowing to the next line and instead break the layout. Working on a fix. (
phabricator:T195367)
Improving the validity of the HTML of the Lexeme headers. (
phabricator:T196228)
Worked on showing the Lemma(s) or Representation(s) when Lexemes or Forms are mentioned in constraint reports. (
phabricator:T195315)
Got a new beta feature ready for deployment that will improve the suggestions for properties like sex/gender by first suggesting the values defined in the one-of constraint. (
phabricator:T202712)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
When you added or edited a template with the visual editor the input boxes were very big. This has been fixed. The input boxes will now be smaller until you click on them. Then they will change size to fit the text.
[21]
Problems
Some diffs showed lines in the wrong order. This was fixed last week.
[22]
Marking a cross-wiki notification as read didn't work every time. The other wiki was not updated. This has now been fixed.
[23]
<maplink> did not work for a few days. This was because of a bug. This has now been fixed.
[24]
{{subst:REVISIONUSER}} is used by some templates. For a period edits saved with {{subst:REVISIONUSER}} would save the previous user's name and not your username. This is now fixed. Edits made before the bug was fixed will still be wrong and need to be corrected.
[25]
When you move a page the title still shows the old page name. The developers are working on fixing this.
[26]
Changes later this week
Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at
14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
You can read more about this.
Because of
the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on
11 Septmber at 18:30 (UTC). See
how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
12 September at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Continuing through September and early October: Andy Mabbett is
touring Australia for a series of open-science and GLAM Wiki-focused talks, workshops, and meetups.
An increasing number of reports from This Month in GLAM Wikidata related stories. To follow,
subscribe here. Though most country reports include Wikidata activities, highlights from this month include:
Collection Explorer, a Wikidata-driven tool bringing together collection data from the Ashmolean Museum, the Bodleian Library, and the Pitt Rivers Museum.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
The
Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. Images uploaded using Nearby are now automatically added to the associated Wikidata item. You can browse other images on Commons. You can see your achievements and your upload statistics. It has also fixed some bugs.
[27]
MediaWiki web requests now have a time limit of 60 seconds for GET requests and 200 seconds for POST requests.
[28]
Problems
You could not see the menu on the notifications page on the mobile version. This has now been fixed.
[29]
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 September. It will be on all wikis from 20 September (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
19 September at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 September. It will be on all wikis from 27 September (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
26 September at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Why you Removed the Saint Infobox on Page Pope Gregory ISimple Lang Ako (
talk) 07:31, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Simple Lang Ako All you had done with your addition was repeat information that was already in the existing infobox. The only thing you added that was new was the older likeness of the Pope.--
Chewings72 (
talk) 11:59, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current talk page.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
CSS in templates can now be stored in a separate page on all wikis. This is called
TemplateStyles. This is to make it easier to edit how templates look.
[1]
Changes later this week
There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on
14 August at 18:30 (UTC). See
how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
15 August at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Future changes
The developers are planning more ways to block users. This could be blocking someone from just a page or a namespace. You can
read more. You can leave feedback on the
talk page.
[2]
Hello and welcome to the August 2018 GOCE newsletter. Thanks to everyone who participated in the Guild's June election; your new and returning coordinators are listed below. The next election will occur in December 2018; all Wikipedia editors in good standing may take part.
Our June blitz focused on
Requests and articles tagged for copy edit in October 2017. Of the eleven people who signed up, eight editors recorded a total of 28 copy edits, including 3 articles of more than 10,000 words. Complete results, including barnstars awarded, are available
here.
Thanks to everyone who participated in the July drive. Of the seventeen people who signed up, thirteen editors completed 194 copy edits, successfully removing all articles tagged in the last three months of 2017. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are
here.
The August blitz will run for one week, from 19 to 25 August. Sign up now!
Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Tdslk.
Hi
Sorry to bother u
I think you are an editor In the page of
William II of the Netherlands
He is a king but in his categories he is put as and lgbt head of goverments also with him being lgbt heads of state
So is this right
As a king he is a head of goverment
How is that
Can you please clarify if u dont mind
And thx
AdamPrideTN (
talk) 15:50, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
AdamPrideTNSorry, but I am not familiar with Dutch political systems. So I am not sure whether he was an absolute monarch or a constitutional monarch and whether Dutch kings are regarded as heads of state. Hopefully, someone who knows will respond to your question on the article's talk page.--
Chewings72 (
talk) 05:07, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #326
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
This is the Wikidata summary of the week before 2018-08-20.
JOSM/Plugins/Wikipedia/GSoC 2018: 'Floscher' has been working to improve the Wikidata/Wikipedia-related functionality of the 'JOSM' editor for OpenStreetMap
Design Challenges in Named Entity Transliteration - a paper discussing "fundamental design challenges that impact the development of a multilingual state-of-the-art named entity transliteration system", with reference to Wikidata
Quicksilver: Training an #ML system to generate draft Wikipedia articles and Wikidata entries simultaneously,
slides by John Bohannon and Vedant Dharnidharka
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 August. It will be on all wikis from 23 August (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
22 August at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Future changes
The
2018 Community Wishlist Survey begins on 29 October. The survey decides what the
Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 29 October to 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 16 November to 30 November.
Legacy JavaScript global variables have been deprecated for seven years. They will soon be removed from all wikis. Gadgets and scripts that use them will stop working. You can test your community's gadgets on "group0" wikis. For example
Test Wikipedia or
mediawiki.org. The legacy JavaScript global variables are already disabled there. You can
read the migration guide to fix old scripts.
[3]
It's possible to add somevalue and novalue using
QuickStatements, and to use the tool on test.wikidata.org as well.
More properties can be searched using haswbstatement. This includes all properties with "external identifier", "string", "item", "property", "lexeme", "form" and "sense" datatypes, except published in (P1433) and cites (P2860). In addition you may make queries without a specified value.
The page creation and edit rate limit imposed in April will be removed in the next days. However, users who are not bots or administrators are throttled to 90 edits per minute (
which was set up on all Wikimedia wikis in May).
These new languages are now supported for monolingual text strings: mid, mnw, gmy, rar, haz, uga. The language doesn't show up in the suggester, but you can save the statement and it will be stored properly.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
You can now see moved paragraphs in diffs in the mobile view. It also works on all languages in the desktop view.
[4]
Bureaucrats on all Wikimedia wikis can now remove the
interface admin user right.
[5]
Problems
Some diffs show lines in the wrong order. The developers are working on fixing it.
[6]
Changes later this week
The message you see when you thank a user will change. This is to make it easier to understand.
[7]
AWB will stop adding using AWB in the edit summary. Instead it will add a
tag that says AWB.
[8]
Some
abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables
on mediawiki.org. They have a note which says Deprecated. Use ... instead. An example is article_text which is now page_title.
[9]
Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is page_age.
[10]
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 August. It will be on all wikis from 30 August (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on
28 August at 18:30 (UTC). See
how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
29 August at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Future changes
Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at
14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
You can read more about this.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
There is a new user right for users who can edit
CSS and
JavaScript for the entire wiki. Before this all admins could edit CSS and JavaScript. This was a security risk. This group is called
interface administrators. Administrators can delete user CSS and JavaScript pages.
[11][12]
There will be an
A/B test on the Wikipedia mobile website. It starts this week. It tests how we show templates that show information about an article. The test will last two weeks.
[13][14]
You can now use different CSS rules for different skins when you edit templates. This is because of
TemplateStyles.
[15]
When you get a new message on your talk page you get a yellow message in the toolbar. The preference to show or not show this has been removed.
[17]
Problems
UploadWizard had problems with
campaigns. Users could not upload files. This has now been fixed.
[18]
You can get a
notification when a link is made to a page you created. This has not worked since June. It was fixed last week.
[19]
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 September. It will be on all wikis from 6 September (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
5 September at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Future changes
The Wikimedia Foundation
Readers department will work on advanced mobile editing. You can
read more about this and other things they plan to work on over the next year. You can also
see the presentation.
Continued work on merging Lexemes. Merging via the SpecialPage is done and will be rolled out soon. Merging via the API is still being worked on. (
phabricator:T189129)
Long Lemmas in Lexemes look bad because they are not flowing to the next line and instead break the layout. Working on a fix. (
phabricator:T195367)
Improving the validity of the HTML of the Lexeme headers. (
phabricator:T196228)
Worked on showing the Lemma(s) or Representation(s) when Lexemes or Forms are mentioned in constraint reports. (
phabricator:T195315)
Got a new beta feature ready for deployment that will improve the suggestions for properties like sex/gender by first suggesting the values defined in the one-of constraint. (
phabricator:T202712)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
When you added or edited a template with the visual editor the input boxes were very big. This has been fixed. The input boxes will now be smaller until you click on them. Then they will change size to fit the text.
[21]
Problems
Some diffs showed lines in the wrong order. This was fixed last week.
[22]
Marking a cross-wiki notification as read didn't work every time. The other wiki was not updated. This has now been fixed.
[23]
<maplink> did not work for a few days. This was because of a bug. This has now been fixed.
[24]
{{subst:REVISIONUSER}} is used by some templates. For a period edits saved with {{subst:REVISIONUSER}} would save the previous user's name and not your username. This is now fixed. Edits made before the bug was fixed will still be wrong and need to be corrected.
[25]
When you move a page the title still shows the old page name. The developers are working on fixing this.
[26]
Changes later this week
Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at
14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
You can read more about this.
Because of
the data centre test there will be no new version of MediaWiki this week. Changes for this week will come next week instead.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on
11 Septmber at 18:30 (UTC). See
how to join.
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
12 September at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Continuing through September and early October: Andy Mabbett is
touring Australia for a series of open-science and GLAM Wiki-focused talks, workshops, and meetups.
An increasing number of reports from This Month in GLAM Wikidata related stories. To follow,
subscribe here. Though most country reports include Wikidata activities, highlights from this month include:
Collection Explorer, a Wikidata-driven tool bringing together collection data from the Ashmolean Museum, the Bodleian Library, and the Pitt Rivers Museum.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
The
Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. Images uploaded using Nearby are now automatically added to the associated Wikidata item. You can browse other images on Commons. You can see your achievements and your upload statistics. It has also fixed some bugs.
[27]
MediaWiki web requests now have a time limit of 60 seconds for GET requests and 200 seconds for POST requests.
[28]
Problems
You could not see the menu on the notifications page on the mobile version. This has now been fixed.
[29]
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 September. It will be on all wikis from 20 September (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
19 September at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 September. It will be on all wikis from 27 September (
calendar).
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on
26 September at 15:00 (UTC). See
how to join.
Why you Removed the Saint Infobox on Page Pope Gregory ISimple Lang Ako (
talk) 07:31, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Simple Lang Ako All you had done with your addition was repeat information that was already in the existing infobox. The only thing you added that was new was the older likeness of the Pope.--
Chewings72 (
talk) 11:59, 25 September 2018 (UTC)