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Hello Chetsford. Many thanks for protecting this article – however, on the RFPP page you mentioned it was protected for a week, but only seems to be for 48 hours? Cheers, Number 5 7 12:53, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello @ Chetsford. Thanks for your input as I'm in agreement that the article should be cited sufficiently to confirm the notability of the subject. I've added twelve citations under "Additional References" heading. These are all secondary sources I believe. Let me know if you have any further questions. Regards, Wdallen49 ( talk) 14:08, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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Would more albums in discography enhance the notability requirements? Any editing feedback would be appreciated.
Hi. Thanks for adding the page protection. Just passing on what I know. The individual is an LTA. See Talk:Chris Buescher#LTA is still active here and the linked discussions within that post for some background and history. Lately when I report to AIV, they typically block for "Block evasion" ( latest example) I assume in reference to the lengthy block of one of the ranges. I recommend blocking this particular IP if you're at all inclined to do so. -- DB1729 talk 06:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for reviewing this. I'm a bit confused as to why this does not include sufficient references. Could I know a little bit more about the rationale behind the decline? TLA (talk) 05:45, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:Charleston County Public Library.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under non-free content criteria, but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to the file description page, and edit it to include a non-free rationale.
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Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Regarding my citing former high-level Army Intelligence analyst and NSA officer John M. Newman's *self-published* book, Uncovering Popov's Mole in my draft, I'd like to point out that in addition to his being a professor of political science and there being a Wikipedia article on him, Carroll and Graf published his 600+ page Oswald and the CIA in 1995, Warner Books published his JFK and Vietnam: Deception, Intrigue and the Struggle for Power in 1992, and he gave testimony to the Assassination Records Review Board in 1991. In short, I think it's fair to say that he's an expert on the CIA and the KGB, and that I should therefore be allowed to cite his 2022 book, Uncovering Popov's Mole in my draft. Thanks. PS Please check out my Wikipedia article on Solie's bugbear, Tennent H. Bagley Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 02:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Chetsford. As suggested in the title of my message to you, it's regarding my Wikipedia draft article on Bruce Leonard Solie, which draft article was turned down for publication by Wikipedia a couple of weeks ago, and about which you told me at that time that John M. Newman's self-published book, Uncovering Popov's Mole, was probably unacceptable for me to use as a citation because ... well ... he self-published it. PS I believe I mentioned Solie at least once in my Wikipedia article on Tennent H. Bagley which article was published by Wikipedia about half-a-year ago. Have you had an opportunity to read it, yet? Thanks! Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 05:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Sorry. Here's the link. I think. Draft:Bruce Leonard Solie - Wikipedia Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 06:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Okay, that didn't work. How do I go about doing that? Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 06:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
It's on my "Was Kisevalter Nash?" talk page. Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 06:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
It at the bottom of this page: User talk:Was Kisevalter Nash? Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 06:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Chetsford.
It's a pity that the Richards Heuer link is broken. I have a copy of his 29-page article, and I've just now counted eleven times that he mentions Solie in it.
Regarding Simpich, my citation # 19 was intended to refer to Chapter 1 (I may have said Chapter 2 by mistake) in his online article, State Secret -- and not to Bruce Solie, per se, but to the background story as to why probable "mole" Solie may have sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Lee Harvey Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA; i.e., that in April of 1958, Popov told the CIA in Berlin (via his CIA handler, George Kisevalter) that he'd overheard a drunken GRU colonel brag that the Kremlin knew all about the CIA's top-secret Lockheed U-2 spy plane.
This is what Simpich writes about that in his State Secret article, Chapter 1 "The Double Dangle":
While Oswald was a radar operator in Asia, Col. Pyotr Popov was a top double agent for the CIA, providing important Soviet military intelligence to Angleton under the code name ATTIC. In April, 1958, Popov heard a drunken colonel brag about the "technical details" that the KGB had on a new high-altitude spycraft that America was flying over the USSR. Popov concluded that the leak of such details came from within the U-2 project itself. While in Berlin, Popov passed this U-2 leak to the Agency [via his handler, George Kisevalter] and then returned to Moscow.[10]
Simpich's footnote [10] refers to pages 154-55 in Mark Riebling's fine book, Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA (published in 1994 by Alfred A. Knopf), in which he writes about Solie on eleven pages. I forgot to add that 563-page opus as a citation or two in my draft. Riebling's Wedge is free-to-read on the internet -- just Google "wedge" "riebling" and "archive" simultaneously.
Finally, regarding Tennent H. Bagley, I don't know which "offline" book of his you've got, but in his 2007 Yale University Press book, Spy Wars: Moles, Mysteries and Deadly Games (which is also free-to-read online by Googling "spy wars" and "archive" simultaneously), he writes quite a lot about Solie (and rather scathingly, I might add) on yet another eleven pages (232-3, 236-8, 241-45, 328).
Thanks!
PS I see that my # 19 citation wasn't to Simpich's long State Secret article, after all, but to his shorter The Twelve Who Built the Oswald Legend article, instead. My bad. Regardless, he says the same thing about Popov, the drunken GRU colonel, and the U-2 in it as he said in State Secret, but for some reason he doesn't link it to pages 154-55 in Riebling's book. Oh well.
Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 01:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hello! Your submission of
James Townsend (abolitionist) at the
Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at
your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!
Narutolovehinata5 (
talk ·
contributions) 10:45, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello Chetsford. Many thanks for protecting this article – however, on the RFPP page you mentioned it was protected for a week, but only seems to be for 48 hours? Cheers, Number 5 7 12:53, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello @ Chetsford. Thanks for your input as I'm in agreement that the article should be cited sufficiently to confirm the notability of the subject. I've added twelve citations under "Additional References" heading. These are all secondary sources I believe. Let me know if you have any further questions. Regards, Wdallen49 ( talk) 14:08, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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Would more albums in discography enhance the notability requirements? Any editing feedback would be appreciated.
Hi. Thanks for adding the page protection. Just passing on what I know. The individual is an LTA. See Talk:Chris Buescher#LTA is still active here and the linked discussions within that post for some background and history. Lately when I report to AIV, they typically block for "Block evasion" ( latest example) I assume in reference to the lengthy block of one of the ranges. I recommend blocking this particular IP if you're at all inclined to do so. -- DB1729 talk 06:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for reviewing this. I'm a bit confused as to why this does not include sufficient references. Could I know a little bit more about the rationale behind the decline? TLA (talk) 05:45, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:Charleston County Public Library.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under non-free content criteria, but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to the file description page, and edit it to include a non-free rationale.
If you have uploaded other non-free media, consider checking that you have specified the non-free rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described in section F6 of the criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions, please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Salavat ( talk) 14:59, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Regarding my citing former high-level Army Intelligence analyst and NSA officer John M. Newman's *self-published* book, Uncovering Popov's Mole in my draft, I'd like to point out that in addition to his being a professor of political science and there being a Wikipedia article on him, Carroll and Graf published his 600+ page Oswald and the CIA in 1995, Warner Books published his JFK and Vietnam: Deception, Intrigue and the Struggle for Power in 1992, and he gave testimony to the Assassination Records Review Board in 1991. In short, I think it's fair to say that he's an expert on the CIA and the KGB, and that I should therefore be allowed to cite his 2022 book, Uncovering Popov's Mole in my draft. Thanks. PS Please check out my Wikipedia article on Solie's bugbear, Tennent H. Bagley Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 02:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Chetsford. As suggested in the title of my message to you, it's regarding my Wikipedia draft article on Bruce Leonard Solie, which draft article was turned down for publication by Wikipedia a couple of weeks ago, and about which you told me at that time that John M. Newman's self-published book, Uncovering Popov's Mole, was probably unacceptable for me to use as a citation because ... well ... he self-published it. PS I believe I mentioned Solie at least once in my Wikipedia article on Tennent H. Bagley which article was published by Wikipedia about half-a-year ago. Have you had an opportunity to read it, yet? Thanks! Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 05:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Sorry. Here's the link. I think. Draft:Bruce Leonard Solie - Wikipedia Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 06:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Okay, that didn't work. How do I go about doing that? Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 06:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
It's on my "Was Kisevalter Nash?" talk page. Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 06:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
It at the bottom of this page: User talk:Was Kisevalter Nash? Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 06:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Chetsford.
It's a pity that the Richards Heuer link is broken. I have a copy of his 29-page article, and I've just now counted eleven times that he mentions Solie in it.
Regarding Simpich, my citation # 19 was intended to refer to Chapter 1 (I may have said Chapter 2 by mistake) in his online article, State Secret -- and not to Bruce Solie, per se, but to the background story as to why probable "mole" Solie may have sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Lee Harvey Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA; i.e., that in April of 1958, Popov told the CIA in Berlin (via his CIA handler, George Kisevalter) that he'd overheard a drunken GRU colonel brag that the Kremlin knew all about the CIA's top-secret Lockheed U-2 spy plane.
This is what Simpich writes about that in his State Secret article, Chapter 1 "The Double Dangle":
While Oswald was a radar operator in Asia, Col. Pyotr Popov was a top double agent for the CIA, providing important Soviet military intelligence to Angleton under the code name ATTIC. In April, 1958, Popov heard a drunken colonel brag about the "technical details" that the KGB had on a new high-altitude spycraft that America was flying over the USSR. Popov concluded that the leak of such details came from within the U-2 project itself. While in Berlin, Popov passed this U-2 leak to the Agency [via his handler, George Kisevalter] and then returned to Moscow.[10]
Simpich's footnote [10] refers to pages 154-55 in Mark Riebling's fine book, Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA (published in 1994 by Alfred A. Knopf), in which he writes about Solie on eleven pages. I forgot to add that 563-page opus as a citation or two in my draft. Riebling's Wedge is free-to-read on the internet -- just Google "wedge" "riebling" and "archive" simultaneously.
Finally, regarding Tennent H. Bagley, I don't know which "offline" book of his you've got, but in his 2007 Yale University Press book, Spy Wars: Moles, Mysteries and Deadly Games (which is also free-to-read online by Googling "spy wars" and "archive" simultaneously), he writes quite a lot about Solie (and rather scathingly, I might add) on yet another eleven pages (232-3, 236-8, 241-45, 328).
Thanks!
PS I see that my # 19 citation wasn't to Simpich's long State Secret article, after all, but to his shorter The Twelve Who Built the Oswald Legend article, instead. My bad. Regardless, he says the same thing about Popov, the drunken GRU colonel, and the U-2 in it as he said in State Secret, but for some reason he doesn't link it to pages 154-55 in Riebling's book. Oh well.
Was Kisevalter Nash? ( talk) 01:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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