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I don't think this is useful to anyone that has >10-100 main space edits, but thanks anyway, learned 1 or 2 things from it.
Justiyaya (
talk)
16:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
@
TigerScientist and
EpicPupper: Thank you EpicPupper for explaining the situation. Hi TigerScientist, I wasnt ignore you but I was travelling for last 5 days and I just got home. Thank you for interested in
WP:CVUA. I saw you have done a few
WP:TWA missions, and please finish all the mission of TWA so you may understand the fundamental Wikipedia guidance prior starting the CVUA program. Please note the CUVA program do require a lot of reading and working on assignment, so you need to prepare to spend time on the said tasks. Once you have completed the TWA program and pop back here if you still want to join the CUVA program but do note that I will be busy with packing and travelling for the coming days for I am moving back to Sydney. Just be a little patient if I dont reply your message on within 24 hours. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)13:49, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I have been editing a bit and only just started the adventure. I already created my user page and due to that, I can't advance in the adventure. I easily understand a lot of it though. I am ready for any amount of time and reading.
TigerScientistChat >
contribs15:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
@
TigerScientist: Good day. You can restart (from Mission 1/new) working on the TWA program even you have started editing your user page. Once you have done that, then pop back here and let me know.
Cassiopeia(
talk)21:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
@
TigerScientist: I have a look at your history page on your user page and I dont understand you are you trying to tell me above. All you have to do is go go
WP:TWA and start doing the all the mission (I know you did some before, but please redo them "all" this time). It will take about 90 -120 mins of your time. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)21:43, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
I did that. I did that but it should say something like continue right? I edited the user page but then it still says I have to edit it. I don't get why it still says I need to do stuff after I did it.
TigerScientistChat >
contribs21:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
@
TigerScientist: Redo again (start a new TWA)). Do all the mission from start to finish even those you have done before. Treat it as it this is the first time you doing it. Start a new TWA.
Cassiopeia(
talk)21:57, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Yeah I did. I created a new account called
LionScientist to test and well lets just say I GOT SUM BADGES. I am 100% sure the problem was I already had a user page on this account. It worked flawlessly on the other account.
TigerScientistChat >
contribs00:43, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
@
EpicPupper,
Nearlyevil665, and
TigerScientist:, Thank you EpicPupper and neralyevil665 for communicate with TigerScientist while I was absent. Appreciate your input. TigerScientist, have set up the program for you and pls read the links (reading material) and the communication section at the bottom of the assignment before you start answering the questions. Also, since you have created another user account, I would STRONGLY suggest you to just use one account, your old account "TigerScientist", if you happen to use both account and if you use them either intentionally or unintentionally which violate 3RR, use it as
WP:SOCK edits in nature, you WILL BE BLOCKED INDEFENATELY. So pls stick to only one account. Note, I will still be busy for the next few days and should be settled in by next Monday, so if you do not hear from me for the new few days, pls be patient and I will get back to you as soon as I am available. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)10:58, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much for getting me in the program. I will never use that account again or use it to gain a advantage in arguments or edit wars. Thank you
TigerScientistChat >
contribs15:14, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
I personally recommend putting a
Retired template on your alternate account user page, and adding a note on that page on the usage of that account. You also should add a note on your own user page.
EpicPupper (
talk)
16:13, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
#1Lib1Ref Campaign in Italy, as part of the IFLA Wikidata Working Group campaign (May 15 - June 5); more than 10k references have already been added (see the
dashboard for more details)
Wikidata-related projects that have been developed/improved during the
Wikimedia Hackathon 2021:
User:Lucas_Werkmeister/Ranker - Finished and announced the batch modes for the Ranker tool, allowing users to edit the ranks of statements in Wikidata or Structured Data on Commons in bulk
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
The Wikimedia movement has been using
IRC on a network called
Freenode. There have been changes around who is in control of the network. The
Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts have
decided to move to the new
Libera Chat network instead. This is not a formal decision for the movement to move all channels but most Wikimedia IRC channels will probably leave Freenode. There is a
migration guide and ongoing Wikimedia
discussions about this.
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 May. It will be on all wikis from 27 May (
calendar).
Hi Cassiopeia. I was recommended to sign up for the CVUA and we apparently share the same timezone! I have sporadically edited Wikipedia under an IP. I picked up the Tinkle and Redwarn after making an account and I just kinda dived right in after reading a whole bunch. However, I'm not super confident and I think I'd benefit from some guidance. If you have space for me, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks so much.
Abillionradios (
talk)
04:51, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Abillionradios, Good day. Pls note that the CUVA program do required a lot of your time to read Wikipedia guidelines (reading material) and working on assignments. Many participants were informed of the above; and yet they do not anticipate the amount of time and work needed to complete the program, resulting of quitting of the program. So if you still want to participate the program, pls make sure you would have time as well as the determination to complete it. At the meantime, pls complete the
WP:TWA program (about 120 mins) so you would familiar with some basic Wikipedia guidelines. Pop back here when you have finish the TWA program. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)06:25, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Potential future issue
Hey, so the new season of Contender's Series is gonna happen this year, but I see a potential issue happening in the future. I don't see Contender Series ending anytime soon and the page is just gonna keep on going on and on, until one of the admins says that we will have to make it smaller. If we do it now, we can avoid the trouble of having to do even more work redoing all the links on the fighter's pages in the future.
Likewise, I just have some pages that I hope you can review.
HeinzMaster Done review. As for the DWCS, we could split the article into "year" such as "DWCS in 20xx". By the way, I reverted your edit because DWCS is not UFC event for the promotion licence belongs to Dana White and not UFC. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)03:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Tofiq is the RIZIN Lightweight Champion and has fought 4 times in RIZIN (top tier promotion). He defeated 4 other notable fighters and the UFC made an offer to sign him. He was recognized by members of Azerbaijani government after winning the RIZIN title. His page should not be deleted.
Darbaki (
talk)
04:06, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Darbaki good day. Thank you for the message above. Rizin has never been a top tier promotion under Wikipdedia
WP:MMATIER guidelines. Secondly, I have yet to find any independent, reliable English source stated the subject has been signed by UFC. Even if he is signed by UFC (by other languages sources), the subject needs to have at least 3 fights under tier one promoter or has been ranked world to ten to be warrant a page in Wikipedia. Thank you.
Cassiopeia(
talk)06:19, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
June 2021 at Women in Red
Women in Red| June 2021, Volume 7, Issue 6, Numbers 184, 188, 196, 199, 200, 201
SPARQL queries
live on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, June 1 at 18:00 CEST
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Affinity Group Co-facilitators will recap the last year, introduce plans for the coming year, and receive suggestions from the community for future sessions.;
[1], June 1st.
Italian Wikiversity used Lua on their Recent Changes SpecialPage via overwriting a MediaWiki message. Our code used to not expect that, now it does. (
phab:T283240)
Updating the panel that tracks Wikidata edits over time in different namespaces to include all namespaces (
phab:T281356)
Working on adding a new constraints type for Lexemes (
phab:T200689)
Working on designs for improving Special:NewLexeme
Working on designs for the system to find mismatches between Wikidata's data and other databases
Fixing some malformed globe-coordinate precisions in the database (
phab:T283576)
Hello! I hope you're having a fantastic day. I would like to request training for the Counter-vandalism unit, I have over 300 mainspace edits and am interested in learning more about counter-vandalism. Regards,
Pink Saffron (
talk)
14:20, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Pink Saffron, Good day. Pls note that the CUVA program do required a lot of your time to read Wikipedia guidelines (reading material) and working on assignments. Many participants were informed of the above; and yet they do not anticipate the amount of time and work needed to complete the program, resulting of quitting of the program. So if you still want to participate the program, pls make sure you would have time as well as the determination to complete it. At the meantime, pls complete the
WP:TWA program (about 120 mins) so you would familiar with some basic Wikipedia guidelines. Pop back here when you have finish the TWA program. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)02:56, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Pink Saffron, You only have done partial of the TWA. Pls complete all the missions. If you cant continue where you left off then start the TWA all over again. Once you have done that, then let me know.
Cassiopeia(
talk)02:42, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Problems
There was an issue on the Vector skin with the text size of categories and notices under the page title. It was fixed last Monday.
[2]
I need help getting my revised article on <<Duane Torrance McRuer>> posted. I have a difficult time following all of the detailed instructions. I edited the sandlot version today. I'm willing to pay to have it uploaded and posted.
Steven Harsey (
talk)
02:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Steven Harsey Good day. Frist of all, I would like to advise you not to disclose you personal info on Wikipedia as once it is posted, it will always remain in Wikipedia which might compromise your privacy info. Secondly, Wikipedia is a site where articles are mostly created by volunteers and paid editors are strongly discourage. Thirdly, pls read
Help:Your first article on how to write an article and
Help:Referencing for beginners on how to provide inline citations (sources) to support the content claimed.
Cassiopeia(
talk)02:49, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 June. It will be on all wikis from 10 June (
calendar).
Future changes
The Wikimedia movement uses
Phabricator for technical tasks. This is where we collect technical suggestions, bugs and what developers are working on. The company behind Phabricator will stop working on it. This will not change anything for the Wikimedia movement now. It could lead to changes in the future.
[3][4][5]
Searching on Wikipedia will find more results in some languages. This is mainly true for when those who search do not use the correct
diacritics because they are not seen as necessary in that language. For example searching for Bedusz doesn't find Będusz on German Wikipedia. The character ę isn't used in German so many would write e instead. This will work better in the future in some languages.
[6]
The
CSRF token parameters in the
action API were changed in 2014. The old parameters from before 2014 will stop working soon. This can affect bots, gadgets and user scripts that still use the old parameters.
[7][8]
SPARQL Jupyter notebooks in PAWS: PAWS is a wikitech services which allows to run Jupyter notebooks. There is a SPARQL kernel which makes it possible to run SPARQL queries. See this
example notebook.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
Wikidata Community/Diversity 2021 Survey has been
published. The results are meant to serve as a baseline to see how the community might (not) change in the future.
WikidataCon 2021: A sustainable future for Wikidata. Information about "the conference theme, its three-day program structure and a special project on diversity taking place before the conference itself".
The
call for candidates for 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board elections has begun on June 9. The last date to apply is June 29, 2021.
Working on no longer using the Query Service to evaluate Constraints Checks regular expressions (this should make our checks faster and allow for further improvements) (
phab:T176312)
Changing the rate limits for assigning Item IDs further, which should result in even fewer Q-IDs being skipped in the future (
phab:T284538)
Finalizing the concepts for a tool to help work on mismatches between Wikidata's data and other databases/websites/...
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current talk page.
I don't think this is useful to anyone that has >10-100 main space edits, but thanks anyway, learned 1 or 2 things from it.
Justiyaya (
talk)
16:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
@
TigerScientist and
EpicPupper: Thank you EpicPupper for explaining the situation. Hi TigerScientist, I wasnt ignore you but I was travelling for last 5 days and I just got home. Thank you for interested in
WP:CVUA. I saw you have done a few
WP:TWA missions, and please finish all the mission of TWA so you may understand the fundamental Wikipedia guidance prior starting the CVUA program. Please note the CUVA program do require a lot of reading and working on assignment, so you need to prepare to spend time on the said tasks. Once you have completed the TWA program and pop back here if you still want to join the CUVA program but do note that I will be busy with packing and travelling for the coming days for I am moving back to Sydney. Just be a little patient if I dont reply your message on within 24 hours. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)13:49, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I have been editing a bit and only just started the adventure. I already created my user page and due to that, I can't advance in the adventure. I easily understand a lot of it though. I am ready for any amount of time and reading.
TigerScientistChat >
contribs15:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
@
TigerScientist: Good day. You can restart (from Mission 1/new) working on the TWA program even you have started editing your user page. Once you have done that, then pop back here and let me know.
Cassiopeia(
talk)21:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
@
TigerScientist: I have a look at your history page on your user page and I dont understand you are you trying to tell me above. All you have to do is go go
WP:TWA and start doing the all the mission (I know you did some before, but please redo them "all" this time). It will take about 90 -120 mins of your time. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)21:43, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
I did that. I did that but it should say something like continue right? I edited the user page but then it still says I have to edit it. I don't get why it still says I need to do stuff after I did it.
TigerScientistChat >
contribs21:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
@
TigerScientist: Redo again (start a new TWA)). Do all the mission from start to finish even those you have done before. Treat it as it this is the first time you doing it. Start a new TWA.
Cassiopeia(
talk)21:57, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Yeah I did. I created a new account called
LionScientist to test and well lets just say I GOT SUM BADGES. I am 100% sure the problem was I already had a user page on this account. It worked flawlessly on the other account.
TigerScientistChat >
contribs00:43, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
@
EpicPupper,
Nearlyevil665, and
TigerScientist:, Thank you EpicPupper and neralyevil665 for communicate with TigerScientist while I was absent. Appreciate your input. TigerScientist, have set up the program for you and pls read the links (reading material) and the communication section at the bottom of the assignment before you start answering the questions. Also, since you have created another user account, I would STRONGLY suggest you to just use one account, your old account "TigerScientist", if you happen to use both account and if you use them either intentionally or unintentionally which violate 3RR, use it as
WP:SOCK edits in nature, you WILL BE BLOCKED INDEFENATELY. So pls stick to only one account. Note, I will still be busy for the next few days and should be settled in by next Monday, so if you do not hear from me for the new few days, pls be patient and I will get back to you as soon as I am available. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)10:58, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much for getting me in the program. I will never use that account again or use it to gain a advantage in arguments or edit wars. Thank you
TigerScientistChat >
contribs15:14, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
I personally recommend putting a
Retired template on your alternate account user page, and adding a note on that page on the usage of that account. You also should add a note on your own user page.
EpicPupper (
talk)
16:13, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
#1Lib1Ref Campaign in Italy, as part of the IFLA Wikidata Working Group campaign (May 15 - June 5); more than 10k references have already been added (see the
dashboard for more details)
Wikidata-related projects that have been developed/improved during the
Wikimedia Hackathon 2021:
User:Lucas_Werkmeister/Ranker - Finished and announced the batch modes for the Ranker tool, allowing users to edit the ranks of statements in Wikidata or Structured Data on Commons in bulk
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Recent changes
The Wikimedia movement has been using
IRC on a network called
Freenode. There have been changes around who is in control of the network. The
Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts have
decided to move to the new
Libera Chat network instead. This is not a formal decision for the movement to move all channels but most Wikimedia IRC channels will probably leave Freenode. There is a
migration guide and ongoing Wikimedia
discussions about this.
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 May. It will be on all wikis from 27 May (
calendar).
Hi Cassiopeia. I was recommended to sign up for the CVUA and we apparently share the same timezone! I have sporadically edited Wikipedia under an IP. I picked up the Tinkle and Redwarn after making an account and I just kinda dived right in after reading a whole bunch. However, I'm not super confident and I think I'd benefit from some guidance. If you have space for me, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks so much.
Abillionradios (
talk)
04:51, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Abillionradios, Good day. Pls note that the CUVA program do required a lot of your time to read Wikipedia guidelines (reading material) and working on assignments. Many participants were informed of the above; and yet they do not anticipate the amount of time and work needed to complete the program, resulting of quitting of the program. So if you still want to participate the program, pls make sure you would have time as well as the determination to complete it. At the meantime, pls complete the
WP:TWA program (about 120 mins) so you would familiar with some basic Wikipedia guidelines. Pop back here when you have finish the TWA program. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)06:25, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Potential future issue
Hey, so the new season of Contender's Series is gonna happen this year, but I see a potential issue happening in the future. I don't see Contender Series ending anytime soon and the page is just gonna keep on going on and on, until one of the admins says that we will have to make it smaller. If we do it now, we can avoid the trouble of having to do even more work redoing all the links on the fighter's pages in the future.
Likewise, I just have some pages that I hope you can review.
HeinzMaster Done review. As for the DWCS, we could split the article into "year" such as "DWCS in 20xx". By the way, I reverted your edit because DWCS is not UFC event for the promotion licence belongs to Dana White and not UFC. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)03:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Tofiq is the RIZIN Lightweight Champion and has fought 4 times in RIZIN (top tier promotion). He defeated 4 other notable fighters and the UFC made an offer to sign him. He was recognized by members of Azerbaijani government after winning the RIZIN title. His page should not be deleted.
Darbaki (
talk)
04:06, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Darbaki good day. Thank you for the message above. Rizin has never been a top tier promotion under Wikipdedia
WP:MMATIER guidelines. Secondly, I have yet to find any independent, reliable English source stated the subject has been signed by UFC. Even if he is signed by UFC (by other languages sources), the subject needs to have at least 3 fights under tier one promoter or has been ranked world to ten to be warrant a page in Wikipedia. Thank you.
Cassiopeia(
talk)06:19, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
June 2021 at Women in Red
Women in Red| June 2021, Volume 7, Issue 6, Numbers 184, 188, 196, 199, 200, 201
SPARQL queries
live on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, June 1 at 18:00 CEST
Next Linked Data for Libraries
LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Affinity Group Co-facilitators will recap the last year, introduce plans for the coming year, and receive suggestions from the community for future sessions.;
[1], June 1st.
Italian Wikiversity used Lua on their Recent Changes SpecialPage via overwriting a MediaWiki message. Our code used to not expect that, now it does. (
phab:T283240)
Updating the panel that tracks Wikidata edits over time in different namespaces to include all namespaces (
phab:T281356)
Working on adding a new constraints type for Lexemes (
phab:T200689)
Working on designs for improving Special:NewLexeme
Working on designs for the system to find mismatches between Wikidata's data and other databases
Fixing some malformed globe-coordinate precisions in the database (
phab:T283576)
Hello! I hope you're having a fantastic day. I would like to request training for the Counter-vandalism unit, I have over 300 mainspace edits and am interested in learning more about counter-vandalism. Regards,
Pink Saffron (
talk)
14:20, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Pink Saffron, Good day. Pls note that the CUVA program do required a lot of your time to read Wikipedia guidelines (reading material) and working on assignments. Many participants were informed of the above; and yet they do not anticipate the amount of time and work needed to complete the program, resulting of quitting of the program. So if you still want to participate the program, pls make sure you would have time as well as the determination to complete it. At the meantime, pls complete the
WP:TWA program (about 120 mins) so you would familiar with some basic Wikipedia guidelines. Pop back here when you have finish the TWA program. Stay safe and best.
Cassiopeia(
talk)02:56, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Pink Saffron, You only have done partial of the TWA. Pls complete all the missions. If you cant continue where you left off then start the TWA all over again. Once you have done that, then let me know.
Cassiopeia(
talk)02:42, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Problems
There was an issue on the Vector skin with the text size of categories and notices under the page title. It was fixed last Monday.
[2]
I need help getting my revised article on <<Duane Torrance McRuer>> posted. I have a difficult time following all of the detailed instructions. I edited the sandlot version today. I'm willing to pay to have it uploaded and posted.
Steven Harsey (
talk)
02:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Steven Harsey Good day. Frist of all, I would like to advise you not to disclose you personal info on Wikipedia as once it is posted, it will always remain in Wikipedia which might compromise your privacy info. Secondly, Wikipedia is a site where articles are mostly created by volunteers and paid editors are strongly discourage. Thirdly, pls read
Help:Your first article on how to write an article and
Help:Referencing for beginners on how to provide inline citations (sources) to support the content claimed.
Cassiopeia(
talk)02:49, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.
Translations are available.
Changes later this week
The
new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 June. It will be on all wikis from 10 June (
calendar).
Future changes
The Wikimedia movement uses
Phabricator for technical tasks. This is where we collect technical suggestions, bugs and what developers are working on. The company behind Phabricator will stop working on it. This will not change anything for the Wikimedia movement now. It could lead to changes in the future.
[3][4][5]
Searching on Wikipedia will find more results in some languages. This is mainly true for when those who search do not use the correct
diacritics because they are not seen as necessary in that language. For example searching for Bedusz doesn't find Będusz on German Wikipedia. The character ę isn't used in German so many would write e instead. This will work better in the future in some languages.
[6]
The
CSRF token parameters in the
action API were changed in 2014. The old parameters from before 2014 will stop working soon. This can affect bots, gadgets and user scripts that still use the old parameters.
[7][8]
SPARQL Jupyter notebooks in PAWS: PAWS is a wikitech services which allows to run Jupyter notebooks. There is a SPARQL kernel which makes it possible to run SPARQL queries. See this
example notebook.
Other Noteworthy Stuff
Wikidata Community/Diversity 2021 Survey has been
published. The results are meant to serve as a baseline to see how the community might (not) change in the future.
WikidataCon 2021: A sustainable future for Wikidata. Information about "the conference theme, its three-day program structure and a special project on diversity taking place before the conference itself".
The
call for candidates for 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board elections has begun on June 9. The last date to apply is June 29, 2021.
Working on no longer using the Query Service to evaluate Constraints Checks regular expressions (this should make our checks faster and allow for further improvements) (
phab:T176312)
Changing the rate limits for assigning Item IDs further, which should result in even fewer Q-IDs being skipped in the future (
phab:T284538)
Finalizing the concepts for a tool to help work on mismatches between Wikidata's data and other databases/websites/...