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I don't think the links to index pages (e.g. "See USS Albacore for other ships of that name.") need to be at the top of the articles. They're more of a ==See Also== feature. It's a good thing to have disambiguation links at the top, so that if someone types Albacore, and didn't mean the fish, they can go on without having to scroll down the page (though in fact that page has the links to other Albacores at the bottom!). But if someone types (or follows a link to) "USS Albacore (SS-218)", they presumably know where they intend to go. —wwoods 10:38, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I see you flagged your changes to WP:AN/3RR (among many others) as a minor edit. Use of this flag for that edit was inappropriate. Help:Minor edit gives guidelines on when it's appropriate to use that flag; please follow them. And before you say that in your opinion, your change was minor, please note that that page says:
so whether you think they are minor is less important than what other editors think. While I'm at it, please always fill in edit summaries with a description of your change. Wikipedia:Edit summary says:
(Emphasis in the original.) Thanks! Noel (talk) 18:37, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
PS: I don't usually check other User_talk: pages (so that I don't have to monitor a whole long list of User_Talk: pages - one for each person with whom I am having a "conversation"), so please leave any messages for me on my talk page (above); if you leave a message for me here I probably will not see it. I know not everyone uses this style (they would rather keep all the text of a thread in one place), but I simply can't monitor all the User_talk: pages I leave messages on. Thanks!
Re. what you wrote on my talk page: this article absolutely nothing to do with me! Grinner 12:33, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, Calton, for helping me replace the link. :-) Something must have happened when I was moving the text around. -- Death phoenix 14:07, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Regarding GRider's 'Socratic' VfD nominations and the ensuing reactions by voters, please read and comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/GRider2. Thanks. Radiant _* 10:26, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
Every time he creates one of these public accounts, he's going to get blocked. Rick K 21:25, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
Greetings. :-) I just wanted to drop by and thank you for taking the time to respond. I think it's terrible that some Wiki users would prefer to reprimand me when I tire of such attacks and respond with mere sarcasm -- and ignore Wareware's comments entirely. They'd rather pretend they don't see the racist poison he spews on a regular basis. Wikipedia is truly appalling in that way. No wonder there are so few blacks here. Anyway, I followed your advice and left a message on the admin page. We'll see what shakes out. Peace 2 u -- and thanks again for taking the time for trying to make Wikipedia a better website, a better community. :-) deeceevoice 23:15, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Wait, too bad you don't own this wiki. There is absolutely nothing around here that says I can't have an article on my bloody userpage -- and I'm going to, whether you like it or not. You come to my userpage, acting all authoritive and godlike (when really, you're not even a sysop yourself. Hell, you're just like me!) and setting some sort of a "deadline". I immediantly thought "Oh noes, Calton is going to ask an admin to delete my article that I worked hard on before some jackass came and accused my favourite painter of not existing". Oh, but then I realised that you CAN'T. Let the bloody VfD finish, and try not to act so pissy to newer people.
In other news, I have emailed the owner of SKIR to ask if they could send me their sections of their webpage so I could prove Saito has existed. So hold your horses, oh-authority, and I'll be adding some images to the article (that or send them to your email if they're non-fairuse-able). Sheesh. Suffice 17:24, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've heard of it, somebody mentioned it on the wikien-l a few days ago. It could warrant a story, but I don't know if I'll have time to get around to it. If you're interested and think it's worth the effort, you could certainly start drafting an article for The Signpost yourself.
A vaguely related news item that has also come up this week is the new WikiWax index. See wikinews:Surfwax releases "quick index" to 600k Wikipedia terms. Tying those two together might make for a decent story. -- Michael Snow 21:00, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If you or anyone else have any actual evidence (rather than circumstantial evidence and bad faith assumptions) that demonstrates that I'm someone else, or that someone else is me (or whatever other conspiracy is currently flavour of the month), then publish it. I've already given a more than adequate response to the recent allegations to the contrary. -- Centauri 06:34, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Just waving "Hi" - you might remember me as <josh> from The WELL. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 05:04, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I received your message regarding my presentation of evidence in Netoholic's case. I believe I have provided many references to evidence along with my arguments. Argument is certainly allowed in the rules and as evidenced in prior cases. All argument is supported with reference to evidence. I just got done reformatting a large portion of this and Netoholic will likely be removing his section so this could be causing some confusion while we transition.
Thanks. -- Wgfinley 08:20, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Calton, thanks for your message. I decided a week or so ago not to edit that topic again, as it seemed that there were people involved who had interests other than trying to be encyclopedic; when the discussion started to become abusive, I disengaged and don't want to re-engage. I'm sorry. It happens in these controversial areas. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 03:33, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)
Copied from SlimVirgin's talk page, since she keeps deleting it.
At Talk:Anti-globalization and Anti-Semitism, you wrote Anyway, I've used another program and I've now managed to see what's written on the star. It isn't sheriff.
What program did you use and what was that word? And are you going to get a refund on that program? Because this image ( Image:Davos WEF Golden Calf.png) indicates your program doesn't work very well. Any comments? -- Calton | Talk 01:28, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You know, it's none of my business, but you're not showing a lot of
Wikipedia:WikiLove to SlimVirgin. Even if you think she is misguided, you could just let the issue go. It's beginning to look a lot like you're hounding her. How is that improving the article? She does not have to explain herself. This is not a court of law. This is a place where friends come together and work to build an encyclopaedia. Now, both you and SlimVirgin are good editors. Neither of you is gaining anything from this spat and Wikipedia certainly isn't. If she wants to delete the comments and just move on, let her. Why not? What's to gain for you from making this an unpleasant environment for other editors? I apologise for the interruption. Normal service is now resumed.
Grace Note 08:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You know, SlimVirgin is a nice person and a good editor. You're a little shit. I tried to talk to you like a human being, you're aggressive. I don't take away a good impression of you. I approached you in friendship. You bit the hand held out to you. Don't talk to me about "integrity", dude, you have no idea what it means. Grace Note 13:49, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I adore your impersonation of a 12-year-old boy. I picture you wagging your finger at me. I'm not actually obliged to stand by and watch you harass a decent editor though. She told you she doesn't want to talk about it. Now I'm telling you I don't want to talk to you any more about this subject. I've said all I want to say about it. I am going to rob you of your opportunity to dicksize with me by simply ignoring you.
This place is about "niceness", Calton. That is the objective circumstance here. It's not about trying to be number one or overcoming your fears about yourself by demeaning others. You're doing nothing productive here. Neither am I, so this is more than enough. Grace Note 02:14, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
AP versus PDF. Please comment here or in the image talk page (if you choose to comment, that is), rather than on my talk page. El_C 13:00, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Calton - it took over four months of fierce debate to come up with a wording for the China-geo-stub that was acceptable to as many wikipedians as possible. PLEASE do change it. I don't think anyone wants to start the raging arguments that ensued last time. (have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Criteria#The_China-Taiwan_mess for just one of about six different parts of Wikipedia where the battle took place)! Grutness| hello? 06:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Please reconsider your vote to delete the article Netbux, which has been completely re-written. Your delete vote reflects your attitute to the previous version of the page, but I am sure your vote will be to keep the current version. Thanks. THE KING 08:24, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, if you have an interest, pleaee visit WP:JCOTW and vote, thanks. -- Aphaea * 04:32, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
hey, thanks for doing all that work on the day-pages. i appreciate the edits you're making. Kingturtle 06:10, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I have added some more info which may suggest notability. It's still a work in progress though. You may want to watchlist to see if you want to change your vote later. Thanks, 205.217.105.2 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
do you spend every waking moment on this thing? (Unsigned comment by User:4.46.47.124 13 May 2005, 15:51 (UTC))
Hi Calton, appreciate your enthusiasm, but your insistence that the non-aligned movement did not have any dictators and Nehru was never a socialist and that India never had a state-contreolled economy, and statements by PBS, Parliament of India, Frontline (India), Forbes Magazine, Encyclopedia Brittanica are all conspiracies to defame Wikipedia is incorrect. India *is* still a largely state-controlled economy. It has improved since 1991 ever since it started dismantling the Nehrucian economy, what you read in the mainstream press is not the result of any grand conspiracy. (Unsigned message from [[User::67.121.92.254]], 16:46, 15 May 2005)
You're not very welcome for that rant on my talkpage. You have obviously taken offense at the fact that I'm actually explaining to the new user how the article might benefit from her contributions.
You seem to have absolutely no idea how often people insert links of dubious significance into medical articles. Perhaps it's different in your area of interest. A brief look at Alzheimer's disease shows the accrued matter of endless insertions without any good structure.
As there is no supercilious attitude, I've got nothing to lose. JFW | T@lk 15:02, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I know it's gotten a bit big (~80K); I just did a big round of archiving on it a few days ago, and I've been busy with other things since; just getting around to doing another round of archiving. (Actually, once I get things all caught up, I think I'm going to try and get someone else to take over the archiving - I've been doing it for 6 months, but it's getting really old.) Noel (talk) 19:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
Did you already read the discussion on Gdansk talk? Do it and then "spin" all articles back ...-- Witkacy 04:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed you voted to delete on a number of elementary/middle school VfD pages. For example, the following caught my eye, on Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/All_Saints'_Academy:
Please try to keep things in perspective. Surely this article is far more important, and far more worthy of a WP page, than, say for example, just about any article in Category:Soviet Navy submarines? Good lord, the Soviets are gone, the cold war is over, the damned boats have sank already; why bother wasting electrons on submarines, (or railway lines, for that matter; I notice you are interested in these too), and then VfD'ing schools? Surely, some hobunk elementary school in the middle of nowhere is more noteworthy and encyclopaedic than some rusty railway line or some smelly submarine? I mean, if the schools collapse, who is going to have the education, the knowledge, the know-how to pilot the subs? The Chinese? The Indians? linas 00:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining. I couldn't tell if he was serious or it was just some elaborate joke he was playing. I'm still a little suspicious that he might just be having a laugh at my expense. In any event, I appreciate your clearing that up. Jayjg (talk) 02:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
But you have to admit that there are people who should have a Wikipedia page, but don't as of yet? The red links can be an invitation for someone to create an article. In fact, I just created a stub based on a red link in the List of Holocaust victims page, on the notable French poet/literary critic Benjamin Fondane. Don't know much about him as of yet, but he seems to be notable enough, and I might expand it. Eixo 05:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
But you're ignoring my main point: a red link can be an invitation to create an article on a person who should have an article but does not, as of yet. Are you saying that Wikipedia lists should only have blue links? Eixo 05:57, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
I've put the point in bold, so it will be easier for you to spot. Eixo 06:12, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
I didn't address your direct answer because I thought your last reply was rude. As for your solution to my "trivial" point: that's not, for the moment, how Wikipedia works, as any of these pages will show you. Your solution would elliminate the invitation represented by the red links - right there on the article page - for anyone to add an article on a subject if they find it notable, or remove it if not. Eixo 15:31, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
The examples I chose were representative, and I also gave you the justification. An intellect of a certain calibre should be able to extract precedence from individual examples, without requiring a rigid policy. But if that’s a problem, then check out Wikipedia:Lists, where it says “Some lists are useful for Wikipedia development purposes. The lists of related topics give an indication of the state of the 'pedia, the articles that have been written, and the articles that have yet to be written.” Which is more or less the exact point I was making. Eixo 01:04, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
I have struggled long and hard to make any sense of your last response, but I got stuck on my alleged “inability to make choices”. In any case, since that was probably some sort of personal attack, I’ll ignore it, and move on to the substance of the debate. What it seems you have failed to understand is that, since Wikipedia is a community, the dichotomy between what is precedence and what is policy is a false one. Wikipedia works the way users want it to work. I am quite happy about the way lists are operated at the moment, if you are not, you will have to argue against it in public fora.
Anyway, you say you’re not interested in the issue, and I’m not really interested in continuing the debate on your level, so why don’t we just call it quits? Eixo 14:39, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
Could you please read the nation article? It is not correct to describe the PRC as a nation (thought you would have an argument for the China article). For one example of many of a state being described with its primary characteristics to begin, see the Taiwan article.
Whoops, I meant the Republic of China article, not the Taiwan article.
You sure do make a lot of friends.
I know you're not likely to understand this, but my argument (logical, not rancorous) was in the form of the date—namely dd Mmmm yyyy as opposed to Mmmm dd yyyy, and not the minutiae of whether or not a comma was needed or appropriate anywhwere. After all, I used the example of 3/11/05 at one point in my argument which has no commas at all. It was the form. Yep, about 98% of my point. You managed to miss 100% of it. Well done. Duckecho 23:26, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that your style edit on the Schiavo page is not a critical issue, and I will not revert it, if you feel, with your skills in English literature, that the "surgical" word is superfluous and not needed. You did check out the "diff" at http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Terri_Schiavo&diff=14763933&oldid=14756196 didn't you. In any case, the editors on the Schiavo talk page frequently argue over much larger matters. I wish all the disputed edits were like this one, where either option was OK. I just wanted to drop you a line to let you know that your opinion was considered as useful; perhaps some of the other editors who know how to will look at the diffs and weigh in or maybe not. Your comment on your front page about WIKI suggesting WIKI is rather addictive and sucks you in is quite correct: Don't let it, unless it is just for enjoyment. I, too, didn't know that WIKI could be edited by anyone, until I, too, discovered some problems, and took a "closer look." Have a nice day, Calton, way over there in Japan.-- GordonWattsDotCom 07:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) Bold text
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I don't think the links to index pages (e.g. "See USS Albacore for other ships of that name.") need to be at the top of the articles. They're more of a ==See Also== feature. It's a good thing to have disambiguation links at the top, so that if someone types Albacore, and didn't mean the fish, they can go on without having to scroll down the page (though in fact that page has the links to other Albacores at the bottom!). But if someone types (or follows a link to) "USS Albacore (SS-218)", they presumably know where they intend to go. —wwoods 10:38, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I see you flagged your changes to WP:AN/3RR (among many others) as a minor edit. Use of this flag for that edit was inappropriate. Help:Minor edit gives guidelines on when it's appropriate to use that flag; please follow them. And before you say that in your opinion, your change was minor, please note that that page says:
so whether you think they are minor is less important than what other editors think. While I'm at it, please always fill in edit summaries with a description of your change. Wikipedia:Edit summary says:
(Emphasis in the original.) Thanks! Noel (talk) 18:37, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
PS: I don't usually check other User_talk: pages (so that I don't have to monitor a whole long list of User_Talk: pages - one for each person with whom I am having a "conversation"), so please leave any messages for me on my talk page (above); if you leave a message for me here I probably will not see it. I know not everyone uses this style (they would rather keep all the text of a thread in one place), but I simply can't monitor all the User_talk: pages I leave messages on. Thanks!
Re. what you wrote on my talk page: this article absolutely nothing to do with me! Grinner 12:33, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, Calton, for helping me replace the link. :-) Something must have happened when I was moving the text around. -- Death phoenix 14:07, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Regarding GRider's 'Socratic' VfD nominations and the ensuing reactions by voters, please read and comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/GRider2. Thanks. Radiant _* 10:26, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
Every time he creates one of these public accounts, he's going to get blocked. Rick K 21:25, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
Greetings. :-) I just wanted to drop by and thank you for taking the time to respond. I think it's terrible that some Wiki users would prefer to reprimand me when I tire of such attacks and respond with mere sarcasm -- and ignore Wareware's comments entirely. They'd rather pretend they don't see the racist poison he spews on a regular basis. Wikipedia is truly appalling in that way. No wonder there are so few blacks here. Anyway, I followed your advice and left a message on the admin page. We'll see what shakes out. Peace 2 u -- and thanks again for taking the time for trying to make Wikipedia a better website, a better community. :-) deeceevoice 23:15, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Wait, too bad you don't own this wiki. There is absolutely nothing around here that says I can't have an article on my bloody userpage -- and I'm going to, whether you like it or not. You come to my userpage, acting all authoritive and godlike (when really, you're not even a sysop yourself. Hell, you're just like me!) and setting some sort of a "deadline". I immediantly thought "Oh noes, Calton is going to ask an admin to delete my article that I worked hard on before some jackass came and accused my favourite painter of not existing". Oh, but then I realised that you CAN'T. Let the bloody VfD finish, and try not to act so pissy to newer people.
In other news, I have emailed the owner of SKIR to ask if they could send me their sections of their webpage so I could prove Saito has existed. So hold your horses, oh-authority, and I'll be adding some images to the article (that or send them to your email if they're non-fairuse-able). Sheesh. Suffice 17:24, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've heard of it, somebody mentioned it on the wikien-l a few days ago. It could warrant a story, but I don't know if I'll have time to get around to it. If you're interested and think it's worth the effort, you could certainly start drafting an article for The Signpost yourself.
A vaguely related news item that has also come up this week is the new WikiWax index. See wikinews:Surfwax releases "quick index" to 600k Wikipedia terms. Tying those two together might make for a decent story. -- Michael Snow 21:00, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If you or anyone else have any actual evidence (rather than circumstantial evidence and bad faith assumptions) that demonstrates that I'm someone else, or that someone else is me (or whatever other conspiracy is currently flavour of the month), then publish it. I've already given a more than adequate response to the recent allegations to the contrary. -- Centauri 06:34, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Just waving "Hi" - you might remember me as <josh> from The WELL. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 05:04, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I received your message regarding my presentation of evidence in Netoholic's case. I believe I have provided many references to evidence along with my arguments. Argument is certainly allowed in the rules and as evidenced in prior cases. All argument is supported with reference to evidence. I just got done reformatting a large portion of this and Netoholic will likely be removing his section so this could be causing some confusion while we transition.
Thanks. -- Wgfinley 08:20, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Calton, thanks for your message. I decided a week or so ago not to edit that topic again, as it seemed that there were people involved who had interests other than trying to be encyclopedic; when the discussion started to become abusive, I disengaged and don't want to re-engage. I'm sorry. It happens in these controversial areas. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 03:33, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)
Copied from SlimVirgin's talk page, since she keeps deleting it.
At Talk:Anti-globalization and Anti-Semitism, you wrote Anyway, I've used another program and I've now managed to see what's written on the star. It isn't sheriff.
What program did you use and what was that word? And are you going to get a refund on that program? Because this image ( Image:Davos WEF Golden Calf.png) indicates your program doesn't work very well. Any comments? -- Calton | Talk 01:28, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You know, it's none of my business, but you're not showing a lot of
Wikipedia:WikiLove to SlimVirgin. Even if you think she is misguided, you could just let the issue go. It's beginning to look a lot like you're hounding her. How is that improving the article? She does not have to explain herself. This is not a court of law. This is a place where friends come together and work to build an encyclopaedia. Now, both you and SlimVirgin are good editors. Neither of you is gaining anything from this spat and Wikipedia certainly isn't. If she wants to delete the comments and just move on, let her. Why not? What's to gain for you from making this an unpleasant environment for other editors? I apologise for the interruption. Normal service is now resumed.
Grace Note 08:50, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You know, SlimVirgin is a nice person and a good editor. You're a little shit. I tried to talk to you like a human being, you're aggressive. I don't take away a good impression of you. I approached you in friendship. You bit the hand held out to you. Don't talk to me about "integrity", dude, you have no idea what it means. Grace Note 13:49, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I adore your impersonation of a 12-year-old boy. I picture you wagging your finger at me. I'm not actually obliged to stand by and watch you harass a decent editor though. She told you she doesn't want to talk about it. Now I'm telling you I don't want to talk to you any more about this subject. I've said all I want to say about it. I am going to rob you of your opportunity to dicksize with me by simply ignoring you.
This place is about "niceness", Calton. That is the objective circumstance here. It's not about trying to be number one or overcoming your fears about yourself by demeaning others. You're doing nothing productive here. Neither am I, so this is more than enough. Grace Note 02:14, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
AP versus PDF. Please comment here or in the image talk page (if you choose to comment, that is), rather than on my talk page. El_C 13:00, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Calton - it took over four months of fierce debate to come up with a wording for the China-geo-stub that was acceptable to as many wikipedians as possible. PLEASE do change it. I don't think anyone wants to start the raging arguments that ensued last time. (have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Criteria#The_China-Taiwan_mess for just one of about six different parts of Wikipedia where the battle took place)! Grutness| hello? 06:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Please reconsider your vote to delete the article Netbux, which has been completely re-written. Your delete vote reflects your attitute to the previous version of the page, but I am sure your vote will be to keep the current version. Thanks. THE KING 08:24, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, if you have an interest, pleaee visit WP:JCOTW and vote, thanks. -- Aphaea * 04:32, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
hey, thanks for doing all that work on the day-pages. i appreciate the edits you're making. Kingturtle 06:10, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I have added some more info which may suggest notability. It's still a work in progress though. You may want to watchlist to see if you want to change your vote later. Thanks, 205.217.105.2 19:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
do you spend every waking moment on this thing? (Unsigned comment by User:4.46.47.124 13 May 2005, 15:51 (UTC))
Hi Calton, appreciate your enthusiasm, but your insistence that the non-aligned movement did not have any dictators and Nehru was never a socialist and that India never had a state-contreolled economy, and statements by PBS, Parliament of India, Frontline (India), Forbes Magazine, Encyclopedia Brittanica are all conspiracies to defame Wikipedia is incorrect. India *is* still a largely state-controlled economy. It has improved since 1991 ever since it started dismantling the Nehrucian economy, what you read in the mainstream press is not the result of any grand conspiracy. (Unsigned message from [[User::67.121.92.254]], 16:46, 15 May 2005)
You're not very welcome for that rant on my talkpage. You have obviously taken offense at the fact that I'm actually explaining to the new user how the article might benefit from her contributions.
You seem to have absolutely no idea how often people insert links of dubious significance into medical articles. Perhaps it's different in your area of interest. A brief look at Alzheimer's disease shows the accrued matter of endless insertions without any good structure.
As there is no supercilious attitude, I've got nothing to lose. JFW | T@lk 15:02, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I know it's gotten a bit big (~80K); I just did a big round of archiving on it a few days ago, and I've been busy with other things since; just getting around to doing another round of archiving. (Actually, once I get things all caught up, I think I'm going to try and get someone else to take over the archiving - I've been doing it for 6 months, but it's getting really old.) Noel (talk) 19:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
Did you already read the discussion on Gdansk talk? Do it and then "spin" all articles back ...-- Witkacy 04:54, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed you voted to delete on a number of elementary/middle school VfD pages. For example, the following caught my eye, on Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/All_Saints'_Academy:
Please try to keep things in perspective. Surely this article is far more important, and far more worthy of a WP page, than, say for example, just about any article in Category:Soviet Navy submarines? Good lord, the Soviets are gone, the cold war is over, the damned boats have sank already; why bother wasting electrons on submarines, (or railway lines, for that matter; I notice you are interested in these too), and then VfD'ing schools? Surely, some hobunk elementary school in the middle of nowhere is more noteworthy and encyclopaedic than some rusty railway line or some smelly submarine? I mean, if the schools collapse, who is going to have the education, the knowledge, the know-how to pilot the subs? The Chinese? The Indians? linas 00:26, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining. I couldn't tell if he was serious or it was just some elaborate joke he was playing. I'm still a little suspicious that he might just be having a laugh at my expense. In any event, I appreciate your clearing that up. Jayjg (talk) 02:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
But you have to admit that there are people who should have a Wikipedia page, but don't as of yet? The red links can be an invitation for someone to create an article. In fact, I just created a stub based on a red link in the List of Holocaust victims page, on the notable French poet/literary critic Benjamin Fondane. Don't know much about him as of yet, but he seems to be notable enough, and I might expand it. Eixo 05:05, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
But you're ignoring my main point: a red link can be an invitation to create an article on a person who should have an article but does not, as of yet. Are you saying that Wikipedia lists should only have blue links? Eixo 05:57, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
I've put the point in bold, so it will be easier for you to spot. Eixo 06:12, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
I didn't address your direct answer because I thought your last reply was rude. As for your solution to my "trivial" point: that's not, for the moment, how Wikipedia works, as any of these pages will show you. Your solution would elliminate the invitation represented by the red links - right there on the article page - for anyone to add an article on a subject if they find it notable, or remove it if not. Eixo 15:31, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
The examples I chose were representative, and I also gave you the justification. An intellect of a certain calibre should be able to extract precedence from individual examples, without requiring a rigid policy. But if that’s a problem, then check out Wikipedia:Lists, where it says “Some lists are useful for Wikipedia development purposes. The lists of related topics give an indication of the state of the 'pedia, the articles that have been written, and the articles that have yet to be written.” Which is more or less the exact point I was making. Eixo 01:04, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
I have struggled long and hard to make any sense of your last response, but I got stuck on my alleged “inability to make choices”. In any case, since that was probably some sort of personal attack, I’ll ignore it, and move on to the substance of the debate. What it seems you have failed to understand is that, since Wikipedia is a community, the dichotomy between what is precedence and what is policy is a false one. Wikipedia works the way users want it to work. I am quite happy about the way lists are operated at the moment, if you are not, you will have to argue against it in public fora.
Anyway, you say you’re not interested in the issue, and I’m not really interested in continuing the debate on your level, so why don’t we just call it quits? Eixo 14:39, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
Could you please read the nation article? It is not correct to describe the PRC as a nation (thought you would have an argument for the China article). For one example of many of a state being described with its primary characteristics to begin, see the Taiwan article.
Whoops, I meant the Republic of China article, not the Taiwan article.
You sure do make a lot of friends.
I know you're not likely to understand this, but my argument (logical, not rancorous) was in the form of the date—namely dd Mmmm yyyy as opposed to Mmmm dd yyyy, and not the minutiae of whether or not a comma was needed or appropriate anywhwere. After all, I used the example of 3/11/05 at one point in my argument which has no commas at all. It was the form. Yep, about 98% of my point. You managed to miss 100% of it. Well done. Duckecho 23:26, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
I just wanted to let you know that your style edit on the Schiavo page is not a critical issue, and I will not revert it, if you feel, with your skills in English literature, that the "surgical" word is superfluous and not needed. You did check out the "diff" at http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Terri_Schiavo&diff=14763933&oldid=14756196 didn't you. In any case, the editors on the Schiavo talk page frequently argue over much larger matters. I wish all the disputed edits were like this one, where either option was OK. I just wanted to drop you a line to let you know that your opinion was considered as useful; perhaps some of the other editors who know how to will look at the diffs and weigh in or maybe not. Your comment on your front page about WIKI suggesting WIKI is rather addictive and sucks you in is quite correct: Don't let it, unless it is just for enjoyment. I, too, didn't know that WIKI could be edited by anyone, until I, too, discovered some problems, and took a "closer look." Have a nice day, Calton, way over there in Japan.-- GordonWattsDotCom 07:45, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) Bold text