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Thanks for your review comments on the FAC page. I believe I've addressed your concerns about the resources. -- SkotyWA T C 02:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
(Further Rinaldo discussion removed to foot of page)
Hi Brian - thank you so much for your comments on the Tillson Harrison FAC. I was worried that I wouldn't get any comments on the FAC for a while there!! Anyway, I have addressed the feedback you left on the nomination page. In short, while you did have a couple of good, valid points ("tell-all account"... not sure why I wrote that, to be honest!), the statements that appeared to not be backed up by a source were indeed verifiable. For your convenience, I have included an inline citation directly after the statements in question for the purposes of this FAC so you can double-check. Thanks again for your feedback! Arctic Night 14:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
I would open a sockpuppet investigation - see WP:SPI and please ask if you have questions. What you left on my talk page would be a pretty good start for a SPI note. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:53, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi Brianboulton, if you have the time would you be willing to do a source check for the U2 3D FAC? It is on it's second nomination, which has been restarted, and things look to be moving rather slowly on it. I know from previous FACs that you are fairly knowledgable about this aspect of the process, and if you have the time to give the article a check I'm sure it would be very much appreciated by the nominator. Cheers, Melicans ( talk, contributions) 00:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
You are doing a fantastic job with this article Brian. Just letting you know, WP:WikiProject Opera guidelines for recording sections are to use the table I made. The only time they are not used in an opera article is if the table has been split off onto an opera discography page. Since it seemed un-neccesary to have the table with your excellent prose section, I went ahead and created the discography page for you at Rinaldo discography. Let me know if I can be of help to you in any way. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 20:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I just created an article on the aria " Lascia ch'io pianga" which previously redirected to Rinaldo. You've done a great job Brian and I think the article is now ready for peer review. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 05:38, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
That's a most impressive (and I think pleasing) piece of work in the image that Jappalang has so kindly tracked down and uploaded. (Jappalang really is a star!) Do you think we might use it instead of the Town Hall at the top of the article, or should we put it near the end of the biog section on the supposition that it belongs with the funerary stuff? My preference is for the former, but I am wholly biddable. Tim riley ( talk) 18:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello Brian, are you able to revisit this one at all? The last FAC failed in part because a commenter didn't come back to address my response - I would hate for something similar to happen again! Thanks, Arctic Night 02:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Brian, I have replied to your comments. -- Reckless182 ( talk) 13:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Brian, but really my contribution was <1% of yours and Tim's. Best. -- Guillaume Tell 22:12, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the good wishes regarding the Met tonight. I may try to sneak a cell phone shot or two but I suspect there's a reason why articles don't have such things. I guess the thing on the Pipe Dream plot is that it is difficult to say things which Hammerstein doesn't. I suspect that few had any doubt who saw the play that the Bear Flag was a whorehouse, but Hammerstein doesn't actually say it (leaving me with being not explicit enough on one side of things and too explicit on the "member" thing. (which I'm going to leave in at least for now). Do you have any suggestions? Can I offer parentheticals in a plot description, and if I do, should I source them?-- Wehwalt ( talk) 18:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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Thank you for your comments and suggestions on the Battle of Towton, especially appreciated are your copy-editing and sources check. Your support was invaluable to recognising it as a Featured Article. Jappalang ( talk) 22:04, 9 February 2011 (UTC) |
Well, thank you very much! It was a worthy article, and thoroughly deserved its promotion. Brianboulton ( talk) 22:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I think the "members" inspired you!-- Wehwalt ( talk) 22:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I will do my best to do the sources review in the next 12 or 13 hours. Have you ever thought of getting Handel's Messiah to FA? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:49, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
I will get to the FAC tonight, I just want to read it over again all in one pass, rather than choppily in review. Nixon in China 's first half was fairly good, I would say all of Act I, but sometime in Act II, it descended into weirdness, and stayed that way in Act 3. Adams conducted, and I know the music is brilliant, but ... I picked up the playbill and Opera News, both of which seem to have articles, though I did not read them. First time I've been to the Met in several years, it has not changed very much-- Wehwalt ( talk) 05:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Here is a photograph of a Handel autograph score of the opening of Lascia ch’io pianga, from 1711 and this website. It cites permission of the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge, but this is old enough to be PD-US (I believe). Would it be worth Jappalang checking it out? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:35, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
PS The same website has a photo of the 1711 bilingual libretto too. Again it is old enough to be free as the published work, and in the US photos of PD two-dimensional works are free too. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
{{
PD-Art|PD-Old}}
template together with the {{
Do not move to Commons}}
and an explanation of why it could still be copyrighted in the UK as above.OK, I uploaded all three:
Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:04, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Wonderful. In the end I loaded the autograph, as its fits properly into the Editions section, and the libretto. Brianboulton ( talk) 11:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Done, except
Thank you so much for your help. I Help, When I Can. [12] 22:31, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I thought Rinaldo was a football player, like Diefenbaker.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 23:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
As a preview to the upcoming opera premiere, Handel could be seen on the Main page today, smile. I wonder if in his article the aria mentioned from Rinaldo should be changed to Lascia ch'io pianga, now that there is an article? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your initial sources review of this article. I think I have addressed your concerns, and User:Nigej has added more source information for those sources which he has provided to the article. Would you be able to revisit the review? Regards, Harrias talk 17:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
FYI, I started a topic here to see if Rinaldo can be promoted this week. However, even if it is, the current request for Feb 24 has an equal number of points (maybe 1 more actually) and a large number of supports. Interestingly, 100th anniversary and 300th anniversary are scored the same on the requests page. Raul may have to make a difficult choice between the two articles. Regardless, it has been remarkable to watch that article's rapid metamorphasis. Excellent work. -- SkotyWA T C 17:20, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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Given with respect and admiration to Brianboulton for working so hard to get Rinaldo to FA in time for its 300th anniversary, then voluntarily giving up any claim to the actual date of the 300th anniversary TFA. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 22:32, 15 February 2011 (UTC) |
I can't follow that! But in mere prose I add my congratulations. Another triumph! Tim riley ( talk) 13:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Featured Article machine. A suggestion for one of your next FACs: Philip Larkin. The article has been stable for a while (excepting a little 25th anniversary fluff last year) and those of us who have got the article to the state it is in now have pretty much gone as far as we can. There was a Peer Review a year or so ago, which left some sizeable issues that I'm sure would be within your capabilities. I believe that you contributed to the PR - mentioning that the Letters should have been used more? (Now there is also the Letters to Monica) I became a WP editor because I was embarrassed at the state the Larkin page was in and felt that there was something I could do about it. In turn I became embarrassed that I wasn't in a position to work through issues raised at the PR and bring the page up to FA standard, and would be delighted to see this important page brought up to the highest level. almost- instinct 20:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on February 25, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 25, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director, Raul654 ( talk · contribs). If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 19:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Rinaldo is an opera by George Frideric Handel composed in 1711, and was the first Italian language opera written specifically for the London stage. The libretto was prepared by Giacomo Rossi from a scenario provided by Aaron Hill, and the work was first performed at the Queen's Theatre in London's Haymarket. The story of love, battle and redemption set at the time of the First Crusade is loosely based on Torquato Tasso's epic poem Gerusalemme liberata ("Jerusalem Delivered"), and its staging involved many original and vivid effects. It was a great success with the public, despite negative reactions from literary critics hostile to the contemporary trend towards Italian entertainment in English theatres. Rinaldo was the most frequently performed during Handel's lifetime. However, after 1731 the opera was not staged for more than 200 years. Following a successful run at New York's Metropolitan Opera in 1984, performances and recordings of the work have become more frequent worldwide. Despite the lack of a standard edition, with its spectacular vocal and orchestral passages Rinaldo has been cited as one of Handel's greatest operas. Of its individual numbers the soprano aria " Lascia ch'io pianga" has become a particular favourite and is a popular concert piece. ( more...)
You are welcome for the images. Feel free to add and remove as you desire. I was expecting the images to change as the article improves and will not be alarmed if any are altered or removed. Here are some scholarly sources that may aid you: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9] Cheers. 4meter4 ( talk) 17:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Thanks for your review comments on the FAC page. I believe I've addressed your concerns about the resources. -- SkotyWA T C 02:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
(Further Rinaldo discussion removed to foot of page)
Hi Brian - thank you so much for your comments on the Tillson Harrison FAC. I was worried that I wouldn't get any comments on the FAC for a while there!! Anyway, I have addressed the feedback you left on the nomination page. In short, while you did have a couple of good, valid points ("tell-all account"... not sure why I wrote that, to be honest!), the statements that appeared to not be backed up by a source were indeed verifiable. For your convenience, I have included an inline citation directly after the statements in question for the purposes of this FAC so you can double-check. Thanks again for your feedback! Arctic Night 14:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
I would open a sockpuppet investigation - see WP:SPI and please ask if you have questions. What you left on my talk page would be a pretty good start for a SPI note. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:53, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi Brianboulton, if you have the time would you be willing to do a source check for the U2 3D FAC? It is on it's second nomination, which has been restarted, and things look to be moving rather slowly on it. I know from previous FACs that you are fairly knowledgable about this aspect of the process, and if you have the time to give the article a check I'm sure it would be very much appreciated by the nominator. Cheers, Melicans ( talk, contributions) 00:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
You are doing a fantastic job with this article Brian. Just letting you know, WP:WikiProject Opera guidelines for recording sections are to use the table I made. The only time they are not used in an opera article is if the table has been split off onto an opera discography page. Since it seemed un-neccesary to have the table with your excellent prose section, I went ahead and created the discography page for you at Rinaldo discography. Let me know if I can be of help to you in any way. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 20:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I just created an article on the aria " Lascia ch'io pianga" which previously redirected to Rinaldo. You've done a great job Brian and I think the article is now ready for peer review. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 05:38, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
That's a most impressive (and I think pleasing) piece of work in the image that Jappalang has so kindly tracked down and uploaded. (Jappalang really is a star!) Do you think we might use it instead of the Town Hall at the top of the article, or should we put it near the end of the biog section on the supposition that it belongs with the funerary stuff? My preference is for the former, but I am wholly biddable. Tim riley ( talk) 18:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello Brian, are you able to revisit this one at all? The last FAC failed in part because a commenter didn't come back to address my response - I would hate for something similar to happen again! Thanks, Arctic Night 02:57, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Brian, I have replied to your comments. -- Reckless182 ( talk) 13:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Brian, but really my contribution was <1% of yours and Tim's. Best. -- Guillaume Tell 22:12, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the good wishes regarding the Met tonight. I may try to sneak a cell phone shot or two but I suspect there's a reason why articles don't have such things. I guess the thing on the Pipe Dream plot is that it is difficult to say things which Hammerstein doesn't. I suspect that few had any doubt who saw the play that the Bear Flag was a whorehouse, but Hammerstein doesn't actually say it (leaving me with being not explicit enough on one side of things and too explicit on the "member" thing. (which I'm going to leave in at least for now). Do you have any suggestions? Can I offer parentheticals in a plot description, and if I do, should I source them?-- Wehwalt ( talk) 18:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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The Wars of the Roses Barnstar | |
Thank you for your comments and suggestions on the Battle of Towton, especially appreciated are your copy-editing and sources check. Your support was invaluable to recognising it as a Featured Article. Jappalang ( talk) 22:04, 9 February 2011 (UTC) |
Well, thank you very much! It was a worthy article, and thoroughly deserved its promotion. Brianboulton ( talk) 22:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I think the "members" inspired you!-- Wehwalt ( talk) 22:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I will do my best to do the sources review in the next 12 or 13 hours. Have you ever thought of getting Handel's Messiah to FA? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:49, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
I will get to the FAC tonight, I just want to read it over again all in one pass, rather than choppily in review. Nixon in China 's first half was fairly good, I would say all of Act I, but sometime in Act II, it descended into weirdness, and stayed that way in Act 3. Adams conducted, and I know the music is brilliant, but ... I picked up the playbill and Opera News, both of which seem to have articles, though I did not read them. First time I've been to the Met in several years, it has not changed very much-- Wehwalt ( talk) 05:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Here is a photograph of a Handel autograph score of the opening of Lascia ch’io pianga, from 1711 and this website. It cites permission of the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge, but this is old enough to be PD-US (I believe). Would it be worth Jappalang checking it out? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:35, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
PS The same website has a photo of the 1711 bilingual libretto too. Again it is old enough to be free as the published work, and in the US photos of PD two-dimensional works are free too. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:55, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
{{
PD-Art|PD-Old}}
template together with the {{
Do not move to Commons}}
and an explanation of why it could still be copyrighted in the UK as above.OK, I uploaded all three:
Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:04, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Wonderful. In the end I loaded the autograph, as its fits properly into the Editions section, and the libretto. Brianboulton ( talk) 11:47, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Done, except
Thank you so much for your help. I Help, When I Can. [12] 22:31, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I thought Rinaldo was a football player, like Diefenbaker.-- Wehwalt ( talk) 23:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
As a preview to the upcoming opera premiere, Handel could be seen on the Main page today, smile. I wonder if in his article the aria mentioned from Rinaldo should be changed to Lascia ch'io pianga, now that there is an article? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:53, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your initial sources review of this article. I think I have addressed your concerns, and User:Nigej has added more source information for those sources which he has provided to the article. Would you be able to revisit the review? Regards, Harrias talk 17:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
FYI, I started a topic here to see if Rinaldo can be promoted this week. However, even if it is, the current request for Feb 24 has an equal number of points (maybe 1 more actually) and a large number of supports. Interestingly, 100th anniversary and 300th anniversary are scored the same on the requests page. Raul may have to make a difficult choice between the two articles. Regardless, it has been remarkable to watch that article's rapid metamorphasis. Excellent work. -- SkotyWA T C 17:20, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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Given with respect and admiration to Brianboulton for working so hard to get Rinaldo to FA in time for its 300th anniversary, then voluntarily giving up any claim to the actual date of the 300th anniversary TFA. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 22:32, 15 February 2011 (UTC) |
I can't follow that! But in mere prose I add my congratulations. Another triumph! Tim riley ( talk) 13:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Featured Article machine. A suggestion for one of your next FACs: Philip Larkin. The article has been stable for a while (excepting a little 25th anniversary fluff last year) and those of us who have got the article to the state it is in now have pretty much gone as far as we can. There was a Peer Review a year or so ago, which left some sizeable issues that I'm sure would be within your capabilities. I believe that you contributed to the PR - mentioning that the Letters should have been used more? (Now there is also the Letters to Monica) I became a WP editor because I was embarrassed at the state the Larkin page was in and felt that there was something I could do about it. In turn I became embarrassed that I wasn't in a position to work through issues raised at the PR and bring the page up to FA standard, and would be delighted to see this important page brought up to the highest level. almost- instinct 20:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on February 25, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 25, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director, Raul654 ( talk · contribs). If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 19:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Rinaldo is an opera by George Frideric Handel composed in 1711, and was the first Italian language opera written specifically for the London stage. The libretto was prepared by Giacomo Rossi from a scenario provided by Aaron Hill, and the work was first performed at the Queen's Theatre in London's Haymarket. The story of love, battle and redemption set at the time of the First Crusade is loosely based on Torquato Tasso's epic poem Gerusalemme liberata ("Jerusalem Delivered"), and its staging involved many original and vivid effects. It was a great success with the public, despite negative reactions from literary critics hostile to the contemporary trend towards Italian entertainment in English theatres. Rinaldo was the most frequently performed during Handel's lifetime. However, after 1731 the opera was not staged for more than 200 years. Following a successful run at New York's Metropolitan Opera in 1984, performances and recordings of the work have become more frequent worldwide. Despite the lack of a standard edition, with its spectacular vocal and orchestral passages Rinaldo has been cited as one of Handel's greatest operas. Of its individual numbers the soprano aria " Lascia ch'io pianga" has become a particular favourite and is a popular concert piece. ( more...)
You are welcome for the images. Feel free to add and remove as you desire. I was expecting the images to change as the article improves and will not be alarmed if any are altered or removed. Here are some scholarly sources that may aid you: [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9] Cheers. 4meter4 ( talk) 17:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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