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Just a gentle reminder that WP:3RR even if you're right unless it's clear vandalism. The IPs edits to this page, while possibly misguided, are definitely not vandalism - they're sourced for a start. Although I broadly agree with your view about the age of the sources I think the IP does have a weak case. Dpmuk ( talk) 20:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Would you please assist me and spotlight where in WP:MOSDAB is the advice that leads to the idea of preferring Cairo, New York (disambiguation) to Cairo, New York, and Kairo (disambiguation) to Kairo. — Anomalocaris ( talk) 05:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
The preceding paragraph does not apply to redirects to disambiguation pages for reasons other than signaling intentional links: do not create a double redirect, but make a redirect to the disambiguation page directly (thus Ann Hathaway, a redirect from alternative name, redirects directly to the disambiguation page Anne Hathaway and does not go via the redirect at Anne Hathaway (disambiguation)).
Our esteemed editors deleted the second article, and did a half-assed, inadequate and incomplete merge of the subject matter into the first. I was not given notice of any of this, despite having been a substantial contributor to the second article, and a smaller contributor to the first. This was SNAFU and perhaps FUBAR, but it is water over the Wikipedia dam. So I am not trying to reopen this. I would like access to the deleted article, which actually has a lot of references and citations that need to be in the second. I do not want to have to reinvent the wheel. If somebody would put it (or a link) onto my talk page it would be appreciated. Please give me a hand. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 21:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC) Stan
An article that you have been involved in editing,
Fred Green, has been proposed for a
merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going
here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you.
Paul McDonald (
talk)
14:05, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I can see why you partially reverted my change, on rereading that part is somewhat stilted. However, I believe that the current text departs from the usual style for disambiguation pages in 2 important respects:
As I indicated above, on reflection I accept my attempt at improvement was not successful. May I suggest the alternate wording:
which seems to me to be as natural as the current wording. Thanks, -- MegaSloth ( talk) 04:20, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi there Bkonrad,
Judge Maning is my ancestor and I am doing a little research on his Irish links. The article mentions he came from a place called Johnville in County Dublin. I am not sure whether this was your writing or another person's edit but I hope you can help.
I cannot find any place in County Dublin called Johnville and even contacted the Ordnance Survey Ireland in Dublin - who agree they have never heard of it. They searched their databases and in particular the Census of Ireland 1851 which lists all the townlands in Ireland and could find no record of 'Johnville' in Dublin, or any county in Ireland. There are several 'Johnstown' listed for Dublin though.
Can you help clarify where Johnville is, whether it had/has another name today, the source of this piece of information?
Many thanks, Robyn Rkamira ( talk) 21:05, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. From your edit with the edit summary "no reason to avoid legitimate redirects", I guess I still don't really understand MOS:DAB. The guideline says "piping or redirects should not be used in disambiguation pages." The only exceptions I can fathom are are "to link to a specific section" and "an alternative term which is already in the article's lead section", both of which do not apply. What am I missing? Please don't take this as an attack but as an attempt to understand the policy better. Best regards. -- Muhandes ( talk) 15:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Oops! Sorry, I missed that one! Moonraker12 ( talk) 14:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi why was a reference to 'crook' being Australian and NZ for being sick not acceptable? Ozdaren ( talk) 05:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Sir, You have vandalized the article RAPINI.I wander if you have an excuse, for showing such incompetence and arrogance!. I have been working for a week with the help of more sensible editors such as Vrenator.I was considering accepting their offer to become a regular collaborator to Wikipedia, but now I am disgusted. I am not familiar with your red-tape, so if if you have anything to say, please anwer here. 93.43.209.146 ( talk) 08:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC) Professor Albert C. 93.43.209.146 ( talk) 08:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Mr Bkonrad,Since Ms Vrenator came to your rescue, I left a note with her, please read it.It is I, who DEMAND some apology from you. I hope you reply personally.Thank you. 93.43.208.140 ( talk) 12:40, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Bkonrad, [older but not wiser],.Probably I was wrong, hoping that, for once, you would be reasonable and not arrogant.It is childish to respond the way you did (...Me arrogant?, listen who's talking...you are the arrogant...).I hope at least that, if you did not read the article, you read my note.Now, if you didn't, I ask you again, humbly,
WHAT RIGHT have you to destroy the contents if you don't like the format? Why didn't you give me a warning, as Vrenator did, telling me WHERE I went wrong? What is the procedure that I have violated in my incompetence?.
You see, sonny boy, I fully ADMIT my incompetence, in the fields where I am an incompetent.And I will ADMIT my ARROGANCE too, if you for once, would be so kind and reasonable to give me some concrete semblance of an argument.I DO not allow any young cheeky stripling Jack-in-the-office to liquidate Me as arrogant.Is that clear? P.S. I haven't verbally attacked you, YET. With my best regards. A.C. 93.43.208.140 ( talk) 13:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I wish you realize the beauty and the power of the box. 93.43.208.140 ( talk) 13:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Bkonrad [sadder but wiser]!. I suppose you are a native speaker of English, I am not. But I'll teach you an English lesson. You where arrogant because you ARROGATED the right to destroy a scholarly article, that few people in the whole planet might have written, and ARROGATED the right to judge, being incompetent. Then you were arrogant , in the common sense of the word, because you defended your mistake abusing of your office. Another Linguistis lesson is that language cannot be arrogant.I cannot be arrogant because of the language I use.Probably tou referred to the TONE of my notes, which vibrated with outrage!. I will not trouble you further with technical argument you wouldn't understand. As as I didn't attack you in the first place, I don't want to humiliate you. It was YOU ,that attacked ,unjustly and OVERBEARINGLY, my article. I was lashing because , during this week of fatigue, I met many other, incompetent but decent and less violent, editors, so I could be SURE that your behaviour is below the standard. I warn you not to restore my article, because you deserve the load of rubbish you have brought back. Nothing personal! I do hope now you'll be wiser. 93.43.203.58 ( talk) 14:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
That's a fair suggestion, and I've started on it. I can't finish it now, but it (editing these links) has confirmed for me the absurdity of the earlier redirect; a significant number of the pages that are redirecting to History of Jakarta in fact are not correctly aimed there, demonstrating, as I feel, that the presumption of the redirect (which you have restored) is way off the mark. Frankly, I think that it makes sense for the redirect to be changed immediately back the way I had it, so that the many articles incorrectly heading to Javanese history (and probably confusing the hell out of the readers getting there) would instead at least get to a dab page. But I respect your motives, and shall endeavour to complete the job you've suggested and I've started. I just can't now, as I have to sign off. But I'll get it done soon. (And, now that I recognize that this cannot be a one-size-fits-all fix, I need to review what I've already done--it may well be it can be done better than I've done thus far.) HuskyHuskie ( talk) 05:43, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Not at all. See Don't fix redirects that aren't broken. You might be thinking of WP:Double redirects, which are a problem for readers. older ≠ wiser 20:42, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Do you have a rationale for that reversion? Note that it was not a "copy and paste move" of nothing. Also, America is a continent with many other countries, and not just the country which includes the name of the continent in its own name. Please, don't revert it again, unless you discuss it somewhere (preferrably, here.) Diego Grez ( talk) 22:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
How is it possible to have 87,000 edits in only 7 years, like you have? PPdd ( talk) 21:47, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I posted where you said, although it says there is a backlog. Did I do move request right for Ridiculous, Ridiculous (album), and Ridiculous (general use)? PPdd ( talk) 00:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
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The Disambiguator's Barnstar | |
Thanks for all your hard work on disambiguation pages, Boleyn ( talk) 20:26, 12 February 2011 (UTC) |
There is a discussion starting up at Talk:Batavia (disambiguation), that may be of interest to you. The subject is technically a page move discussion, but the purpose of the discussion is to decide where Batavia should redirect. Until earlier today, Batavia redirected to History of Jakarta, but during this discussion, it is redirecting to Batavia (disambiguation). Your comments and suggestions are welcome.
Thanks for your help. HuskyHuskie ( talk) 22:40, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
You are receiving this because you are one of the principal editors of one of the articles that is linked to Batavia (disambiguation). This notice is being posted to all of the top three editors of each of these articles (in terms of total edits), with the following exceptions:
This is an attempt to be a neutrally-phrased posting in keeping with the principles of WP:CANVASS. If you find anything in the wording or the manner posted to be a violation of that guideline, please notify me at my talk page.
You deleted my edit on "Caca". why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cakebread ( talk • contribs) 02:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
you keep deleting my post but you do not explain why. Can you explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cakebread ( talk • contribs) 03:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Orion - 15 February 2011
Regarding Orion, why did you delete my addition of our company, MAISON ORION, to the list?
Genoahugo (
talk)
03:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)genoahugo
Thanks for clearing that up - as the last major tidier-up of the dab page I thought it might seem like WP:OWN if I just leapt in and tried to sort it out this time. PamD ( talk) 18:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I would like to place who is currently in place at Leoni, and with your resistance, I challenge you to write about the supervisor. All cities usually have this information. So —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.242.150.98 ( talk) 19:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I did a thing where you make the name of the internal link different from the actual page, so the link leads (or lead) to the same page as Walter E. Kurtz. If it didn't exist, it wouldn't have been blue in the first place, silly. :p TheArchaeologist 20:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpelgrift ( talk • contribs)
So I'm looking at some of your reverts to me (such as [5] and [6]), and I'm a bit confused, because we just went through a whole thing to move Batavia (disambiguation) to Batavia. But if I understand your edits correctly, what you are saying is that, even if the dab page doesn't include "(disambiguation)" in the name, that I should include it in the hatnote? Is that what this is about? HuskyHuskie ( talk) 16:23, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
You recently participated in this discussion. There is now a follow-up discussion here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 35 | ← | Archive 40 | Archive 41 | Archive 42 | Archive 43 | Archive 44 | Archive 45 |
Just a gentle reminder that WP:3RR even if you're right unless it's clear vandalism. The IPs edits to this page, while possibly misguided, are definitely not vandalism - they're sourced for a start. Although I broadly agree with your view about the age of the sources I think the IP does have a weak case. Dpmuk ( talk) 20:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
Would you please assist me and spotlight where in WP:MOSDAB is the advice that leads to the idea of preferring Cairo, New York (disambiguation) to Cairo, New York, and Kairo (disambiguation) to Kairo. — Anomalocaris ( talk) 05:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
The preceding paragraph does not apply to redirects to disambiguation pages for reasons other than signaling intentional links: do not create a double redirect, but make a redirect to the disambiguation page directly (thus Ann Hathaway, a redirect from alternative name, redirects directly to the disambiguation page Anne Hathaway and does not go via the redirect at Anne Hathaway (disambiguation)).
Our esteemed editors deleted the second article, and did a half-assed, inadequate and incomplete merge of the subject matter into the first. I was not given notice of any of this, despite having been a substantial contributor to the second article, and a smaller contributor to the first. This was SNAFU and perhaps FUBAR, but it is water over the Wikipedia dam. So I am not trying to reopen this. I would like access to the deleted article, which actually has a lot of references and citations that need to be in the second. I do not want to have to reinvent the wheel. If somebody would put it (or a link) onto my talk page it would be appreciated. Please give me a hand. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen ( talk) 21:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC) Stan
An article that you have been involved in editing,
Fred Green, has been proposed for a
merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going
here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you.
Paul McDonald (
talk)
14:05, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I can see why you partially reverted my change, on rereading that part is somewhat stilted. However, I believe that the current text departs from the usual style for disambiguation pages in 2 important respects:
As I indicated above, on reflection I accept my attempt at improvement was not successful. May I suggest the alternate wording:
which seems to me to be as natural as the current wording. Thanks, -- MegaSloth ( talk) 04:20, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi there Bkonrad,
Judge Maning is my ancestor and I am doing a little research on his Irish links. The article mentions he came from a place called Johnville in County Dublin. I am not sure whether this was your writing or another person's edit but I hope you can help.
I cannot find any place in County Dublin called Johnville and even contacted the Ordnance Survey Ireland in Dublin - who agree they have never heard of it. They searched their databases and in particular the Census of Ireland 1851 which lists all the townlands in Ireland and could find no record of 'Johnville' in Dublin, or any county in Ireland. There are several 'Johnstown' listed for Dublin though.
Can you help clarify where Johnville is, whether it had/has another name today, the source of this piece of information?
Many thanks, Robyn Rkamira ( talk) 21:05, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. From your edit with the edit summary "no reason to avoid legitimate redirects", I guess I still don't really understand MOS:DAB. The guideline says "piping or redirects should not be used in disambiguation pages." The only exceptions I can fathom are are "to link to a specific section" and "an alternative term which is already in the article's lead section", both of which do not apply. What am I missing? Please don't take this as an attack but as an attempt to understand the policy better. Best regards. -- Muhandes ( talk) 15:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Oops! Sorry, I missed that one! Moonraker12 ( talk) 14:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi why was a reference to 'crook' being Australian and NZ for being sick not acceptable? Ozdaren ( talk) 05:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Sir, You have vandalized the article RAPINI.I wander if you have an excuse, for showing such incompetence and arrogance!. I have been working for a week with the help of more sensible editors such as Vrenator.I was considering accepting their offer to become a regular collaborator to Wikipedia, but now I am disgusted. I am not familiar with your red-tape, so if if you have anything to say, please anwer here. 93.43.209.146 ( talk) 08:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC) Professor Albert C. 93.43.209.146 ( talk) 08:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Mr Bkonrad,Since Ms Vrenator came to your rescue, I left a note with her, please read it.It is I, who DEMAND some apology from you. I hope you reply personally.Thank you. 93.43.208.140 ( talk) 12:40, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Bkonrad, [older but not wiser],.Probably I was wrong, hoping that, for once, you would be reasonable and not arrogant.It is childish to respond the way you did (...Me arrogant?, listen who's talking...you are the arrogant...).I hope at least that, if you did not read the article, you read my note.Now, if you didn't, I ask you again, humbly,
WHAT RIGHT have you to destroy the contents if you don't like the format? Why didn't you give me a warning, as Vrenator did, telling me WHERE I went wrong? What is the procedure that I have violated in my incompetence?.
You see, sonny boy, I fully ADMIT my incompetence, in the fields where I am an incompetent.And I will ADMIT my ARROGANCE too, if you for once, would be so kind and reasonable to give me some concrete semblance of an argument.I DO not allow any young cheeky stripling Jack-in-the-office to liquidate Me as arrogant.Is that clear? P.S. I haven't verbally attacked you, YET. With my best regards. A.C. 93.43.208.140 ( talk) 13:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I wish you realize the beauty and the power of the box. 93.43.208.140 ( talk) 13:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Bkonrad [sadder but wiser]!. I suppose you are a native speaker of English, I am not. But I'll teach you an English lesson. You where arrogant because you ARROGATED the right to destroy a scholarly article, that few people in the whole planet might have written, and ARROGATED the right to judge, being incompetent. Then you were arrogant , in the common sense of the word, because you defended your mistake abusing of your office. Another Linguistis lesson is that language cannot be arrogant.I cannot be arrogant because of the language I use.Probably tou referred to the TONE of my notes, which vibrated with outrage!. I will not trouble you further with technical argument you wouldn't understand. As as I didn't attack you in the first place, I don't want to humiliate you. It was YOU ,that attacked ,unjustly and OVERBEARINGLY, my article. I was lashing because , during this week of fatigue, I met many other, incompetent but decent and less violent, editors, so I could be SURE that your behaviour is below the standard. I warn you not to restore my article, because you deserve the load of rubbish you have brought back. Nothing personal! I do hope now you'll be wiser. 93.43.203.58 ( talk) 14:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
That's a fair suggestion, and I've started on it. I can't finish it now, but it (editing these links) has confirmed for me the absurdity of the earlier redirect; a significant number of the pages that are redirecting to History of Jakarta in fact are not correctly aimed there, demonstrating, as I feel, that the presumption of the redirect (which you have restored) is way off the mark. Frankly, I think that it makes sense for the redirect to be changed immediately back the way I had it, so that the many articles incorrectly heading to Javanese history (and probably confusing the hell out of the readers getting there) would instead at least get to a dab page. But I respect your motives, and shall endeavour to complete the job you've suggested and I've started. I just can't now, as I have to sign off. But I'll get it done soon. (And, now that I recognize that this cannot be a one-size-fits-all fix, I need to review what I've already done--it may well be it can be done better than I've done thus far.) HuskyHuskie ( talk) 05:43, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Not at all. See Don't fix redirects that aren't broken. You might be thinking of WP:Double redirects, which are a problem for readers. older ≠ wiser 20:42, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Do you have a rationale for that reversion? Note that it was not a "copy and paste move" of nothing. Also, America is a continent with many other countries, and not just the country which includes the name of the continent in its own name. Please, don't revert it again, unless you discuss it somewhere (preferrably, here.) Diego Grez ( talk) 22:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
How is it possible to have 87,000 edits in only 7 years, like you have? PPdd ( talk) 21:47, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I posted where you said, although it says there is a backlog. Did I do move request right for Ridiculous, Ridiculous (album), and Ridiculous (general use)? PPdd ( talk) 00:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
![]() |
The Disambiguator's Barnstar | |
Thanks for all your hard work on disambiguation pages, Boleyn ( talk) 20:26, 12 February 2011 (UTC) |
There is a discussion starting up at Talk:Batavia (disambiguation), that may be of interest to you. The subject is technically a page move discussion, but the purpose of the discussion is to decide where Batavia should redirect. Until earlier today, Batavia redirected to History of Jakarta, but during this discussion, it is redirecting to Batavia (disambiguation). Your comments and suggestions are welcome.
Thanks for your help. HuskyHuskie ( talk) 22:40, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
You are receiving this because you are one of the principal editors of one of the articles that is linked to Batavia (disambiguation). This notice is being posted to all of the top three editors of each of these articles (in terms of total edits), with the following exceptions:
This is an attempt to be a neutrally-phrased posting in keeping with the principles of WP:CANVASS. If you find anything in the wording or the manner posted to be a violation of that guideline, please notify me at my talk page.
You deleted my edit on "Caca". why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cakebread ( talk • contribs) 02:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
you keep deleting my post but you do not explain why. Can you explain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cakebread ( talk • contribs) 03:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Orion - 15 February 2011
Regarding Orion, why did you delete my addition of our company, MAISON ORION, to the list?
Genoahugo (
talk)
03:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)genoahugo
Thanks for clearing that up - as the last major tidier-up of the dab page I thought it might seem like WP:OWN if I just leapt in and tried to sort it out this time. PamD ( talk) 18:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I would like to place who is currently in place at Leoni, and with your resistance, I challenge you to write about the supervisor. All cities usually have this information. So —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.242.150.98 ( talk) 19:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I did a thing where you make the name of the internal link different from the actual page, so the link leads (or lead) to the same page as Walter E. Kurtz. If it didn't exist, it wouldn't have been blue in the first place, silly. :p TheArchaeologist 20:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpelgrift ( talk • contribs)
So I'm looking at some of your reverts to me (such as [5] and [6]), and I'm a bit confused, because we just went through a whole thing to move Batavia (disambiguation) to Batavia. But if I understand your edits correctly, what you are saying is that, even if the dab page doesn't include "(disambiguation)" in the name, that I should include it in the hatnote? Is that what this is about? HuskyHuskie ( talk) 16:23, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
You recently participated in this discussion. There is now a follow-up discussion here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:42, 28 February 2011 (UTC)