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The source for the comments I made regarding Telstra come from Alexa [1] and from comments made by Telstra in their own press releases and various interviews, as well as my 10 years online marketing experience. It would pay to ask first for sources before reversing the edit. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 12:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC) The comments I made are now under the category Criticisms... -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 12:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
well gee... if you look at the statistics, that is how it appears... without owning Alexa, and having an intimate knowledge of how they calculate their stats, I cannot say for sure. It now has a source, so how about we leave it there before this just escalates into bs... -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 12:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
You must be joking! If you have a hitwise account, you can look for yourself! i'm happy to put a list of at least 50 articles all saying the same thing, and essentially filling up Telstra's page with refs. My source does not need to be an article, as even images can be referenced (maybe YOU should check the policy). I really get annoyed when someone who uses wikipedia maybe a little too much starts to police it... usually at the detriment of free speech and free press. The source has been referenced, that is all.. it is YOU who needs to be civil and stop trying to run wikipedia the way YOU want it to be run. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 13:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I do not have a hitwise account and yes not an article but it has to be reliable and not just one figure. Since you can't be civil and assuming good faith please make anyother comments on the Telstra talkpage. Bidgee ( talk) 13:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
As I stated previously (and you deleted the edit), you are not an admin, nor a Telstra or Alexa employee, so I fail to understand why you believe you are in a position to cite the post as an Unreliable Source? In fact, if you have something to say about the post, then by all means, contact me and ask me first before deleting what I type... a pattern that seems to be emerging with other reverts that you have made on a regular basis. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 14:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Nice to see you back again - hope you have a nice trip home. I have changed my user name again! Was Golden Wattle and before that AYArktos Regards-- Matilda talk 20:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
And again acknowledging I see your name pop up on my watchlists - good to see you are still around despite being up north. Hope your studies are going well Regards -- Matilda talk 01:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bidgee, I was noticing your edits to Northern Territory-related articles and was wondering whether you'd like to join the Northern Territory WikiProject! Thanks for all those great photos of Darwin, I hope you take more! :) ~ Riana ⁂ 01:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Dear Bidgee, you have reverted my edits and I have no idea why did you do that. The information I've supplied contains useful info and nothing harm to any policies in Wikipedia.
Ah ok, but i did was to give a main introduction which attracts everyone. I am sorry i can't find that it's already in the article... If it's already there, my introduction is still creative and attractive than the previous one...Any ideas?? Have you changed your mind?
Ok, I've got it. But next time, I strongly suggest you to add the reason for reverting in the edit summary, otherwise people will simply get confused...
Thank you very much!
And one more thing, I need advice for the following :
"Lightning is one of the most beautiful displays in nature. It is also one of the most deadly natural phenomena known to man."
Ok, how do you say it's my own view? Even a 7-year-old kid will say it's true... -- Chamath Mc ( talk) 15:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey Bidgee, sorry to read that you have left the Territory. Appreciate all your help with Wiki-Northern Territory. All the best for the future and hope you make it back one day. Regards, Spy007au ( talk) 00:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi - I noticed a spacte of vandalism and have taken it on myself to semi-protect your user page. The vandalism was being reverted but it seems unnecessary. Let me know if you want the page unprotected. Regards Matilda talk 05:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi - I am curious about a photo of a building only to be stopped by NSW Police (Using some LAW banning photography which is the first I've heard of it). The only one I have heard of is some really bizarre law stopping you from taking photos on the Sydney Harbour foreshore but it does seem to be qualified for commercial purpose. There are restrictions apparently about "defence installations" This info sheet is not bad but perhaps it is not wholly complete and does mention "defence installation" restrictions - http://www.artslaw.com.au/LegalInformation/StreetPhotographersRights.asp I am curious - if you are prepared to tell me - what were you photographing and what did the police say? regards -- Matilda talk 06:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
In regards to your recent edits to the Underbelly article, which I reverted, which you re-reverted:
The official website link which you placed in the external links should be removed because it is already in the infobox. According to Wikipedia policy, this should not be repeated, not should the other (TV.com and IMDb) links in the infobox.
I don't see why you removed the link to the TV IV wiki. You quote WP:ELNO 12 which states that "Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors." should not be included. It also states that "wikis that meet this criteria might also be added to Meta:Interwiki map". In my opinion, the TV IV has a substantial number of editors and, it appears that other Wikipedians do too, as it has been added to Meta:Interwiki map.
Also, the Australian Television Information Archive is a very informative website for Australian series. I do not see any point in WP:ELNO that should allow the removal of this link.
If I am mistaken, please let me know.
Thanks, Daniel99091 ( talk) 08:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC).
Trust you know the WP:3RR processes - I am gonna ask some admins to watch the kunnunnura - it is frustrating to watch this from cold perth - but probably wrth asking an admin to watch over the article - cheers - please tell me to p off if youd rather deal with it yourself - but an admin watching is always a good idea Satu Suro 12:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Good to see you went to the admin help area- some occasionally interesting bods seem to inhabit that part of the universe :) Satu Suro 12:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bidgee. I noticed that you added a photo of a safety car to the History section of the V8 Supercars article. I'm thinking of reverting it because that section makes no reference to safety cars at all so I think it looks out of place. In fact, the entire article only mentions the safety car once and that's in relation to the Bathurst 1000. I wanted to get your feedback before making a change. What do you think? -- Fruv ( talk) 04:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Good on ya mate. Hesperian 13:25, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Why, would you remove the wiki link of Back-building thunderstorm? Anyways, not trying to scorn your editing, but I am putting it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miajmw ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I see that you removed my link for the Allpet Roaches Forum, yet the link for the Blattodea Culture Group Forum persists. Why? I did get your link to the rules section which states that forums can't be linked to, but am curious why you didn't also delete the other forum? Peter Clausen ( talk)Peter Clausen
Gosh, don't you think it might be worth leaving the statement and the citation needed in at all? get a grip. Greg Locock ( talk) 11:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
What is wrong with you, Bidgee? Do you have to edit everyone's stuff? Are you just a troll? I add something, you edit.. it's like you are using wikipedia for your own personal flaming... snap out of it, or the next edit will be your requested removal from wikipedia. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 09:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I notice that you have been bandying AGF around a fair bit yesterday. It seems to me that repeatedly deleting unsourced material rather than asking for refs is a failure to apply AGF by yourself to other editors. You are NOT the one to ajudicate what new content goes onto a page, you are perfectly entitled to ask for refs in the usual way, and then delete the material if no refs are forthcoming after a reasonable amount of time. I shall be observing your future behaviour with interest. Greg Locock ( talk) 01:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for this edit, in which you reverted an anonymous user blanking my user page. — Alan De Smet | Talk 05:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I have deleted six edits from this page; three that contained your personal information, and your three reverts of them. Hesperian 12:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Since I am not welcome to talk here that leaves me in a quandary, so far as communication with you goes. I am loathe to use a third party's talk page. Since you seem unwilling to engage in rational discourse on your own talk page then I am exercising my right to discuss your poor behaviour elsewhere. No regards (posted here and there) Greg Locock ( talk) 14:16, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
He says as he fires the first salvo. You left comments on my pages. In response, please be notified that I am left with no option but to formalise a complaint about your behaviour and your ongoing edit wars. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 20:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
The article does not seem to meet the A7 criteria for speedy deletion, as there is a claim to notability. TigerShark ( talk) 22:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
The source for the comments I made regarding Telstra come from Alexa [1] and from comments made by Telstra in their own press releases and various interviews, as well as my 10 years online marketing experience. It would pay to ask first for sources before reversing the edit. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 12:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC) The comments I made are now under the category Criticisms... -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 12:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
well gee... if you look at the statistics, that is how it appears... without owning Alexa, and having an intimate knowledge of how they calculate their stats, I cannot say for sure. It now has a source, so how about we leave it there before this just escalates into bs... -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 12:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
You must be joking! If you have a hitwise account, you can look for yourself! i'm happy to put a list of at least 50 articles all saying the same thing, and essentially filling up Telstra's page with refs. My source does not need to be an article, as even images can be referenced (maybe YOU should check the policy). I really get annoyed when someone who uses wikipedia maybe a little too much starts to police it... usually at the detriment of free speech and free press. The source has been referenced, that is all.. it is YOU who needs to be civil and stop trying to run wikipedia the way YOU want it to be run. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 13:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I do not have a hitwise account and yes not an article but it has to be reliable and not just one figure. Since you can't be civil and assuming good faith please make anyother comments on the Telstra talkpage. Bidgee ( talk) 13:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
As I stated previously (and you deleted the edit), you are not an admin, nor a Telstra or Alexa employee, so I fail to understand why you believe you are in a position to cite the post as an Unreliable Source? In fact, if you have something to say about the post, then by all means, contact me and ask me first before deleting what I type... a pattern that seems to be emerging with other reverts that you have made on a regular basis. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 14:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Nice to see you back again - hope you have a nice trip home. I have changed my user name again! Was Golden Wattle and before that AYArktos Regards-- Matilda talk 20:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
And again acknowledging I see your name pop up on my watchlists - good to see you are still around despite being up north. Hope your studies are going well Regards -- Matilda talk 01:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bidgee, I was noticing your edits to Northern Territory-related articles and was wondering whether you'd like to join the Northern Territory WikiProject! Thanks for all those great photos of Darwin, I hope you take more! :) ~ Riana ⁂ 01:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Dear Bidgee, you have reverted my edits and I have no idea why did you do that. The information I've supplied contains useful info and nothing harm to any policies in Wikipedia.
Ah ok, but i did was to give a main introduction which attracts everyone. I am sorry i can't find that it's already in the article... If it's already there, my introduction is still creative and attractive than the previous one...Any ideas?? Have you changed your mind?
Ok, I've got it. But next time, I strongly suggest you to add the reason for reverting in the edit summary, otherwise people will simply get confused...
Thank you very much!
And one more thing, I need advice for the following :
"Lightning is one of the most beautiful displays in nature. It is also one of the most deadly natural phenomena known to man."
Ok, how do you say it's my own view? Even a 7-year-old kid will say it's true... -- Chamath Mc ( talk) 15:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey Bidgee, sorry to read that you have left the Territory. Appreciate all your help with Wiki-Northern Territory. All the best for the future and hope you make it back one day. Regards, Spy007au ( talk) 00:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi - I noticed a spacte of vandalism and have taken it on myself to semi-protect your user page. The vandalism was being reverted but it seems unnecessary. Let me know if you want the page unprotected. Regards Matilda talk 05:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi - I am curious about a photo of a building only to be stopped by NSW Police (Using some LAW banning photography which is the first I've heard of it). The only one I have heard of is some really bizarre law stopping you from taking photos on the Sydney Harbour foreshore but it does seem to be qualified for commercial purpose. There are restrictions apparently about "defence installations" This info sheet is not bad but perhaps it is not wholly complete and does mention "defence installation" restrictions - http://www.artslaw.com.au/LegalInformation/StreetPhotographersRights.asp I am curious - if you are prepared to tell me - what were you photographing and what did the police say? regards -- Matilda talk 06:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
In regards to your recent edits to the Underbelly article, which I reverted, which you re-reverted:
The official website link which you placed in the external links should be removed because it is already in the infobox. According to Wikipedia policy, this should not be repeated, not should the other (TV.com and IMDb) links in the infobox.
I don't see why you removed the link to the TV IV wiki. You quote WP:ELNO 12 which states that "Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors." should not be included. It also states that "wikis that meet this criteria might also be added to Meta:Interwiki map". In my opinion, the TV IV has a substantial number of editors and, it appears that other Wikipedians do too, as it has been added to Meta:Interwiki map.
Also, the Australian Television Information Archive is a very informative website for Australian series. I do not see any point in WP:ELNO that should allow the removal of this link.
If I am mistaken, please let me know.
Thanks, Daniel99091 ( talk) 08:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC).
Trust you know the WP:3RR processes - I am gonna ask some admins to watch the kunnunnura - it is frustrating to watch this from cold perth - but probably wrth asking an admin to watch over the article - cheers - please tell me to p off if youd rather deal with it yourself - but an admin watching is always a good idea Satu Suro 12:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Good to see you went to the admin help area- some occasionally interesting bods seem to inhabit that part of the universe :) Satu Suro 12:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bidgee. I noticed that you added a photo of a safety car to the History section of the V8 Supercars article. I'm thinking of reverting it because that section makes no reference to safety cars at all so I think it looks out of place. In fact, the entire article only mentions the safety car once and that's in relation to the Bathurst 1000. I wanted to get your feedback before making a change. What do you think? -- Fruv ( talk) 04:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Good on ya mate. Hesperian 13:25, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Why, would you remove the wiki link of Back-building thunderstorm? Anyways, not trying to scorn your editing, but I am putting it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miajmw ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I see that you removed my link for the Allpet Roaches Forum, yet the link for the Blattodea Culture Group Forum persists. Why? I did get your link to the rules section which states that forums can't be linked to, but am curious why you didn't also delete the other forum? Peter Clausen ( talk)Peter Clausen
Gosh, don't you think it might be worth leaving the statement and the citation needed in at all? get a grip. Greg Locock ( talk) 11:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
What is wrong with you, Bidgee? Do you have to edit everyone's stuff? Are you just a troll? I add something, you edit.. it's like you are using wikipedia for your own personal flaming... snap out of it, or the next edit will be your requested removal from wikipedia. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 09:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I notice that you have been bandying AGF around a fair bit yesterday. It seems to me that repeatedly deleting unsourced material rather than asking for refs is a failure to apply AGF by yourself to other editors. You are NOT the one to ajudicate what new content goes onto a page, you are perfectly entitled to ask for refs in the usual way, and then delete the material if no refs are forthcoming after a reasonable amount of time. I shall be observing your future behaviour with interest. Greg Locock ( talk) 01:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for this edit, in which you reverted an anonymous user blanking my user page. — Alan De Smet | Talk 05:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I have deleted six edits from this page; three that contained your personal information, and your three reverts of them. Hesperian 12:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Since I am not welcome to talk here that leaves me in a quandary, so far as communication with you goes. I am loathe to use a third party's talk page. Since you seem unwilling to engage in rational discourse on your own talk page then I am exercising my right to discuss your poor behaviour elsewhere. No regards (posted here and there) Greg Locock ( talk) 14:16, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
He says as he fires the first salvo. You left comments on my pages. In response, please be notified that I am left with no option but to formalise a complaint about your behaviour and your ongoing edit wars. -- Hollowpointr ( talk) 20:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
The article does not seem to meet the A7 criteria for speedy deletion, as there is a claim to notability. TigerShark ( talk) 22:12, 28 April 2008 (UTC)