Boo! Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 05:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I removed the quote on the share of GDP of SUGHD province of Tajikistan that you provided (i.e that Sughd accounts for 70% of the GDP), because there was no source listed for this and I could not verify the information.
Can you provide the source please? Thanks. 5 May 2009 Misha
Tajikistan is a Iranian-speaking country and also a large number of Iranian-speaking people live in Uzbekistan. So, I think the term 'Central Asia' is more appropriate as Turkestan literally means 'land of the Turks'. 'Russian conquest of Turkestan' suggests that they conquered the whole of Turkestan, but Russian camapign didn't cover East Turkestan (a large area). I know that 'Central Asia' isn't perfect either. But it's better of the two, according to me. Himel Rahmon ( talk)
Hi, thanks for expanding the Nogai Horde article. However, there are some problems and I've added the necessary tags. I noticed you added the sentence, "There appears to be no academic book in English on the Nogais, so this article is weakly sourced." Keep in mind that non-English sources are permitted on Wikipedia. If you have sources, and they aren't in English, feel free to add them to the article anyways. It is preferred that you use the <ref> ([1], [2], etc.) system (see an example at Ali Akbar Abdolrashidi). Also, keep in mind that we can't cite other Wikipedias, as Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source. Cheers and happy editing. Khoi khoi 09:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks for adding to the Tuckahoe/Cohee article. I haven't visited this article in some time, and I'm happy with its development. Your comparitive sociology segment is just what is needed to continue its development.
Incidently, as a root cause of small holders being successful in mountainous regions, it seems to me to be self-evident that the cost of military imposition of control on areas which are easily defended and favorable to guerilla-style warfare are high, while the marginal advantage of establishing such control is slight. In other words, the effort is not worth the reward of trying to bring such people under tight social control as long as they maintain a stubborn resistance to such control.
Lee Mathers Gwyncann ( talk) 23:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC) new email is gwyncann@gmail.com
I took a crack at making a map for you, take a look at Image:Siberiariverroutemap.png and let me know what you think. Any needed edits? Kmusser ( talk) 20:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
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The title is still not perfect, of course, but it may be a good idea to start a discussion on the article talkpage to get more ideas on page names. There may be better titles that we simply haven't thought of yet.
Let me know if you have any questions. Kylu ( talk) 02:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Hi, thank you for inquiring about the Dzoosotoyn Elisen Desert article. If you would like to converse on my Talk Page, feel free to add it to your Watch List, and i will keep answering any questions there. Here are some links i hope will help.
Conversation thread here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Teledildonix314#Dzoostoyn_Elisen_Dessert
Help pages associated with this area here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_mergers
The two topics, which may or may not be Mergeable (i don't know the technical details, and i don't know any Chinese desert geography): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurbantunggut_Desert http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzoosotoyn_Elisen_Desert
Replies here: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Teledildonix314&action=edit§ion=12
Thank you kindly, reply if you need more help suggestions, i'm sort of a newbie also. Teledildonix314 Talk ~ contributions 16:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I moved your sentence about the Russian location to a new article, Dobryi, which you might like to develop further. (It doesn't seem to have any connection with Dobry, Poland.)-- Kotniski ( talk) 08:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Great; major improvement on the old article. I'm looking forward to seeing Fedot Dankarl ( talk) 02:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry no help on Altasov. Dankarl ( talk) 13:00, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
I added some references and a little text to Anadyrsk; see what you think. Where does 1652 founding date come from? Dankarl ( talk) 02:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
So we have Atlasov to thank for the Fedotov story, and Stadukhin was appointed an Ataman. I had always thought the term Cossack was used pretty loosely in the context of Siberian colonization; use of the title Ataman is interesting. Dankarl ( talk) 17:14, 30 September 2009 (UTC) Is Ivanov building the stockade from Fisher? Dankarl ( talk) 23:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Have you seen anything on Kurbat Ibanov exploration of Gulf of Anadyr, Kresta Bay, Provideniya Bay circa 1660? Dankarl ( talk) 03:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Petit Fute says that the suggestion to rename East Cape as Cape Dezhnev came from A.E. Nordenskiold. I can't find confirmation of this information, but a Google search seems to suggest Fisher might mention it. Do you recall any such mention, or know another source? If you have it at hand, does it say when and where Nordenskiold made the suggestion? Dankarl ( talk) 19:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Please see my response at my talk page. Vmenkov ( talk) 03:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. What I don't get is that Ivanof was a mapmaker, he supposedly visited Provideniya Bay, but the bay did not wind up on Russian maps. Dankarl ( talk) 04:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I ran across (actually back across) a passage you might be interested in:
"The next day I discovered one of the reasons why reports of distances given us by different natives vary so much. Some of them calculate distance by 'sabachi,' the long or dog verst, and some by 'kony,' the short, or horse verst." Olaf Swenson, Northwest of the World Dodd Mead, NY, 1944 p 229. The conversation reported took place in a Yakut house in the Kolyma district in 1928, or possibly on the trail in the same region. Note Swenson spells phonetically. Dankarl ( talk) 19:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Benjamin, thanks for adding the Dutch map - it's a good interim solution. I'm currently creating a series of eight maps - one for each of the states with its territory highlighted then a generic one for things like the Warring States article. The problem I have is that I am stuck behind the GFC and can't upload anything to commons. Any chance you could help me out when the maps are complete? Best Philg88 ( talk) 05:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed for Stadukhin's page you cited Fisher's work. What does his work say about Stadukhin's expedition along the northern coast of the Sea of Okhotsk from 1651-57? Does it go into detail, or just mention it in passing? I would like to know whether it would be worth getting a copy, so I could perhaps cite it for an article I'm editing on wiki. Jonas Poole ( talk) 04:30, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Benjamin! I was wondering if you could give me some context for this entry (a town or fort)? I'm trying to determine whether it corresponds to any modern places called "Bely Yar". Thanks!— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); December 1, 2010; 18:34 (UTC)
Dear Benjamin Trovato, I will respond on my page where you posted your note [2]. Barefact ( talk) 06:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
[5] (((from BillMasen)))
If I span off the early part of History of Sino-Russian relations into its own article, would that be ok by you? And reduced the early history to a summary? You clearly know more about the subject that I can claim to. BillMasen ( talk) 14:52, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi, long time no see, hope all is well. There are a couple issues with this new map that you've added to Cai (state) amongst othera:
And that's just after a quick look. I haven't reverted your edits out of courtesy but please get this sorted out. Thanks and all the best. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 07:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello Benjamin. Congratulations on your new article Exploration of the Pacific. It is a very high quality article. I noticed that you nominated the two references you used. So far you have not identified in detail the source of any of the information in the article. Wikipedia requires that any information that is challenged, or likely to be challenged, must be independently verifiable by the use of in-line citations leading to the document, page number etc from which the information was taken. See WP:VERIFY.
Please have a look at WP:RS which provides a lot of information about the need for reliable sources being identified for all material published in Wikipedia. Please also return to your new article and add in-line citations to allow independent verification of your material. Keep up the good work! Dolphin ( t) 03:56, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Trade wind easterlies are constant in the tropics of both hemispheres, north and south, within 20 degrees of the equator, on the poleward side of the subtropical ridge. The problem is, people who initially sailed from the Philippines to Mexico in the 16th century would be sailing headlong into the easterlies (which blow FROM Mexico to the Philippines). It wasn't until they discovered the warm water currents like the Kuroshio and Gulf Stream that sailors found a quick way from west to east across the ocean. The problem is, the warm water currents that flow from west to east lie north of the 35th parallel, which is well north of Mexico and the Philippines, so it took them a while to figure it out. Eventually, they discovered the winds drove the currents, but that took another 2-3 centuries. Thegreatdr ( talk) 22:11, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I don't know whether you have noticed recent additions to Semyon Dezhnyov; there is now material drawn from several sources other than Fisher, with inline citations. I wonder whether I could persuade you to return long enough to add inline citations for the parts sourced from Ficher? Dankarl ( talk) 16:41, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
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This is probably the site at a location called called Kasilof, I have seen it variously attributed to Eskimo (presumably Aleutiq), Indians, and Russians, but the Russians I have seen mentioned are the group led by Kolomin of the Lebedef-Lastochkin Company and it's not clear whether the writer meant the Russians lived in these houses or that natives who moved there for trade did (looks like the author of the WP article read the same thing I did). I think I remember seeing some speculative mention of a Deshnev angle years ago but I can't turn it up now. Likewise I remember something about some unexplained Russian artifacts maybe from the same place or maybe nearer Anchorage. The site always seems to be presented as being a little mysterious; I have the impression the archaeologists are a little nonplussed at not being able to immediately classify it. A stretch. Very little available. Dankarl ( talk) 03:02, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hi! While doing the probable correction to this article, the inline citation to DoCB was also removed. It was intended to confirm Mackay at Pine Island Fort which it does. I presume it was removed in error. Will you put it back? Thanks! Stormbay ( talk) 03:41, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Benjamin Trovato, I have a couple questions regarding your recent edits to Alberta-related articles.
Please clarify on both. Cheers, Hwy43 ( talk) 03:03, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Benjamin. In August 2011 I left a message on your Talk page about your new article Exploration of the Pacific. I drew your attention to Wikipedia’s policy that the information in articles should be attributed to a reliable published source. See my diff1 and diff2. You added one in-line citation. Since then, no additional in-line citations have been added so the article remains incomplete and incompatible with Wikipedia’s policy. For this reason, the article has the “Refimprove” banner.
Since August 2011 you have done a commendable job of creating many more new articles. With some of these articles you have added a suitable number of in-line citations to identify reliable published sources for your information. Those articles are:
Unfortunately, with many of your other articles you have supplied either no in-line citations, or an inadequate number. Other Users have observed the inadequate use of in-line citations and have added banners to eight of your articles, as follows:
I have added the “Refimprove” banner to six of your articles because they are incomplete due to insufficient use of in-line citations, and therefore incompatible with Wikipedia’s policy:
I have added the “No footnotes” banner to six of your articles that contain a reference or two but no in-line citations:
Your article Athabasca Country contains no references or citations of any kind. (This suggests you don't comprehend Wikipedia's policy regarding verifiability.) I added the “Nosources” banner.
Please don’t imagine that when you create a new article a group of Wikipedia volunteers will come along and add all the necessary in-line citations. Wikipedia doesn’t work that way. The User who adds a piece of information has primary responsibility to add sufficient in-line citations to identify reliable published sources from which that information can be independently verified. Please read WP:RS and WP:VERIFY – they clarify and confirm Wikipedia’s policy regarding the vital importance of having all published information able to be independently attributed to reliable published sources. Information that is not attributed to a source can be removed!
You have become a prolific creator of new articles and I congratulate you for that. However, before creating any new articles please return to the articles listed above, starting with Athabasca Country, and begin the process of adding sufficient in-line citations to allow the information in your articles to be independently verified as coming from a reliable published source. Happy editing! Dolphin ( t) 06:32, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Benjamin. Thanks for your prompt and considered reply. You ended by saying If I am missing something, let me know. I think you are missing something important and I will try to explain. You appear to believe writing an article for Wikipedia is like writing a blog for Facebook. On Facebook, people are allowed to write whatever they like, and present it in whatever format they like. Wikipedia is nothing like that. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that is being produced by an on-line community of people. The Wikipedia community has determined what the encyclopedia should ultimately look like, and has written a number of policies and guidance documents to achieve uniformity across the encyclopedia and to achieve a high level of credibility. One of the most important policies applicable to the entire encyclopedia is the policy of verifiability. You can read about it at WP:Verifiability. In your reply to me you did not mention any of Wikipedia’s policies or guidelines. Instead you told me about some of your personal views regarding Wikipedia. For example, your reply includes:
Wikipedia’s policy on verifiability is very simple and very clear. WP:Verifiability begins with the following summary in a box at the top of the page:
The Wikipedia community is entitled to determine policies regarding the accuracy and credibility of the final encyclopedia, and to determine standards to ensure a uniform appearance. Those policies and standards are now readily available to all Users in policy documents such as WP:Verifiability. When we contribute to Wikipedia there is an expectation that we will respect the policies and standards determined by the community. There is nothing written anywhere on Wikipedia that invites individual Users to invent their own style of writing, compose their own policies or apply their own personal views in contravention of the view of the Wikipedia community.
You are clearly a competent and prolific writer. We want you to produce articles that are of high quality and do not require a lot of repair work by others. Unfortunately, your personal views regarding in-line citations means your articles fall substantially short of Wikipedia’s quality standards because it is not immediately possible for your information to be independently verified as coming from a reliable published source. (See WP:RS) For many of your articles to reach an acceptable standard of quality in the area of verifiability it is necessary for other Users to add banners regarding finding and adding in-line citations, and ultimately for a large number of others to find suitable sources and add them as in-line citations. Why should you expect others to do this work for you? You are capable of doing it yourself.
The Wikipedia community’s policy regarding verifiability is not burdensome. It is entirely legitimate. Please respect that policy and apply it in your work on Wikipedia. Your personal views about footnotes and verifiability are not relevant here. Best wishes! Dolphin ( t) 06:18, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
@Benjamin: Many editors have reviewed your articles and placed a banner at the top of articles, saying "its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations." For example:
This is the official Wikipedia way of saying the whole article does not meet quality standards because more citations are needed. So rather than these editors placing a "citation needed" tag on one or two statements, they have flagged the fact that the entire article is in need of proper attribution to reliable published sources.
Wikipedia's policy on verifiability is available at WP:VERIFY. If you think this policy is inappropriate or in error, please discuss your desired changes at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability. Don't simply dismiss Wikipedia's legitimate requests and replace them with your personal views. Please respect Wikipedia's requests and don't make work for others unnecessarily. Thank you. Dolphin ( t) 22:42, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Reply: The people who posted these banners made no changes to the articles, did not mark as citation-needed any statement they could not find in the sources and left nothing on the talk page. I see no evidence that they looked at the references and were unable to verify any statement from the listed references. To justify a footnote or correction we need a specific case of something in the article that cannot be easily found in the references. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 05:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Here's the short version. Dolphin, you have been mis-representing policy. There's nothing in policy that says that what Benjamin is doing is wrong. Benjamin, you are misunderstanding the norms and norms for good editing practice of Wikipedia. The norm is to cite a large amount of the material that you write, much more than you have been. Besides being normal and good practice, it can lead to many problems (e.g. tagging and deletion of material once challenged, and even disappearance of the article if wp:notability of the topic is unclear and not established in sourcing) if you don't do that. Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 11:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Reply: As for WP:Verifiability I see nothing that requires inline citations when they are not needed. Oddly, it talks of inline citations rather than references and says nothing about the case in which something can be found by looking in the index of the reference. As for being called wrong, I have no objection to that. If two people disagree each thinks the other is wrong and until the matter is discussed each has a fifty-fifty chance of being right. As for persuading or educating me on Ymblanter's talk page, when two people disagree they are trying to help each other by correcting each others mistakes. If you seek to educate and not be educated you are missing half of the problem. Oddly, this is a religious issue. It is the old puritan-cavalier debate that was first recognized by Pericles in the Funeral Oration. Briefly, the puritan thinks that ethics is a matter of obeying rules and following orders while the cavalier thinks that one should know the problem and use good judgment. Dolphin appears to be a puritan who thinks that There Must Be Footnotes regardless of particular cases. I am taking the cavalier view that footnotes should be added only when they are necessary. We seem to be still at the original question: why should a footnote be added if the information can be easily found by looking in the reference? As for the multiple citation-neededs I checked Asp House and found everything in the reference with one minor exception. See the talk page of that article. I will probably check some of the others, but I have better things to do than check articles when there is no positive evidence that they need checking. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 06:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Reply: I went through William Pullen and found everything in the references except as noted on the talk page. I assume we agree on the following: Footnotes are sometimes needed and sometimes not. What is true in a hypothetical case is not necessarily true in a particular case. Counting footnotes is a good rough-and-ready way to guess that footnotes might be needed, but it remains a guess until someone does the work of comparing the article to the sources. I just realized that I have never attempted to verify someone else's article except in cases of contradiction, so I might not be a good judge. On the things I have checked I cannot remember a case where lack of Wikipedia footnotes caused a problem. In the future I will try to footnote anything that cannot be easily found by looking in the source index. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 10:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Benjamin. I have been noting that you have not been violating any rules when you have been writing without in-line citations, so this is not about that.
From our previous interactions I know that you write from sources. In that context I would like to make a suggestion to just put some in-line cites in as you are adding that material. One other observation is that IMHO it is 10 times easier to put them in initially (when you have the book or web page source open and also know where the just-inserted material came from) than it is to put them in later (including figuring what came from where). I would like to present a few more thoughts for my suggestion:
So my suggestion would be to just routinely put in more cites when adding the material and I hope that I have provided at least some support for that being a good idea. What do you think of my idea? Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 13:59, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Reply: Small things first. As for featured articles, I don't give a hoot. As for erasing my stuff, I usually respect the opinion of the other editor unless I have a strong case. These are usually questionable and it is better to err on the side of quality. As for footnotes to books, they are of no use unless you have the book and if I had the book I would just read it. A Wikipedia footnote would be good only if the information were in an odd place.
We seem to be dealing with a difference of personality or personal experience. My guess is that the Lotsa Footnotes idea came from people who had to deal with an edit war or had to clean up an article that had been messed up by many editors using many unfootnoted sources. They then applied this to normal articles which they had not looked at. Much of what I read has few footnotes and I have never noticed that the quality of a book or Wikipedia article was proportional to the number of footnotes. Since I rarely check other people's work to see if their article matches its sources (how often is this done?), I do not have a good feel for when footnotes are necessary. We seem to be where we started: Lotsa Footnotes as a general rule versus the hard work of looking at an article and seeing if footnotes are needed. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 12:47, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Ben. Most European rivers (except UK) are most commonly referred to in English (and often in their native language) as "Foo", although you will see all the other variants as well. "Foo River" is used in N America because "River" is part of the official name. This is not the case in Europe, where the Rhine is the Rhine and the Danube is just the Danube. Currently most European river articles follow this pattern; I have simply been trying to tidy up the anomalies. If you look at Azerbaijani river articles, you'll see that they are either "Foo" or "Foo River". The latter is just being used for disambiguation. The Aras is the same: Aras goes to some disambiguation page and the article was only called Aras River to disambiguate it. According to Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers#Naming that is wrong; it should be disambiguated by "(river)" which is what I've done. Hope that helps.
P.S. British rivers usually have "River" in front, but some place it behind too e.g. Fivehead River, East Lyn River. But here again "River" is part of the official name. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 10:01, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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Heh, thanks for notifying, had missed this error myself in the reference. Its fixed now. Oh, and in case you're still wondering, that language (pagina's, etc) is Dutch. :-) Bests - LouisAragon ( talk) 06:23, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for your interesting contributions such as the History of the western steppe, but please, can you add Wikipedia:Inline citation (footnotes) to your articles? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:00, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Benjamin Trovato, I will reply, as I don't think Piotrus saw your message as you didn't add a ping. I came to your page to add exactly the same comment as Piotrus. For a reader trying to see where a fact has come from, inline citations are always necessary. Without them, others are reluctant to add information and clear sources because it then gets confusing as to where each piece of information is sourced from. Also if the sources aren't inlnie, the article can never get Good Article or Featured Article status. The most important point, however, is simply that it is less clear for the reader, especially if they are looking to use the article for research. Best wishes, Boleyn ( talk) 21:37, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
You only add citations when you consider they are necessary? That is your practice but it is not what the vast majority of contributors to this project have determined is the best practice. Wikipedia’s principles on this subject are specified at WP:Verifiability. Those principles include All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed.
Wikipedia’s criterion for when an inline citation is required is any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, ... What Piotrus and Boleyn are saying is that they are challenging the verifiability of some of the information you have added. Whether you consider such citations are necessary is irrelevant. Your additions have been challenged so, according to Wikipedia’s principles, you are expected to supply inline citations.
This is not the first time your practice regarding citations has been challenged and explained to you in painful detail. See:
You choose to contribute to Wikipedia. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to choose to abide by the Wikipedia community’s principles? It's not difficult. Dolphin ( t) 01:11, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello. The edit you made may have changed the whole page. May you explain this please? -- George Ho ( talk) 22:47, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm Owlsmcgee. Benjamin Trovato, thanks for creating History of the central steppe!
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Your work on the History of the central steppe is fantastic. However, I noticed that you didn't make use of inline citations, which is essential for helping others verify the source of factual information in an article. Since many of your sources are offline, it would be extremely helpful if you would consider adding your sources into the text of the article.
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Hello. Do you know if the RAC ever built a settlement on Big Shantar Island? In particular, a whaling station? I've seen photos and video of old rusted machinery on the island, including an old steam engine. Do you know anything about its history? ST1849 ( talk) 15:57, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
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Caught by a web host block but this host or IP is not a web host. Place any further information here. I have no idea why this happened. Have been using this for years. Recent changes. Updated Firefox, which I rarely use. Have Chrome also on. My condo is putting in a network, but my connection is independent of it. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 17:13, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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Benjamin...not lurking...you and I worked together several years back on north woods stuff I still had you on my watch list. A proxy (server) is sort of like a "front man" which people use to go onto the internet for them to hide their IP address. It shows them its IP address instead. The notice is claiming that the IP address that is going on the internet for you is a known "front man" and they are blocking it, "not you". They are assuming that you are using some extraordinary measures to go through the front man, and are saying "stop doing that and just surf in the normal manner and you'll be OK". Of course the whole thing could be a mistake on their part. North8000 ( talk) 18:36, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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Could you please stop messing up the Ğazı II Giray article? You persist on bolding text in it which is not an accepted practice here and reanranging text so that huge chunks of text remain unreferenced. I understand you have good intentions but your actions are actively downgrading the quality of the article from B class which it was at the timeframe I rewrote it to start class.-- Catlemur ( talk) 22:44, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you for your recent articles, including Canibek Giray, which I read with interest. When you create a new article, can you add the WikiProject assessment templates to the talk of that article? See the talk page of the article I mentioned for an example of what I mean. Usually it is very simple, you just add something like {{WikiProject Keyword}} to the article's talk, with keyword replaced by the associated WikiProject (ex. if it's a biography article, you would use WikiProject Biography; if it's a United States article, you would use WikiProject United States, and so on). You do not have to rate the article if you do not want to, others will do it eventually. Those templates are very useful, as they bring the articles to a WikiProject attention, and allow them to start tracking the articles through Wikipedia:Article alerts and other tools. For example, WikiProject Poland relies on such templates to generate listings such as Article Alerts, Popular Pages, Quality and Importance Matrix and the Cleanup Listing. Thanks to them, WikiProject members are more easily able to defend your work from deletion, or simply help try to improve it further. Feel free to ask me any questions if you'd like more information about using those talk page templates. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:15, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
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References and citations (see WP:CITE) are rather important. The problem with your edits [6] [7] were 1) you removed existing citations and article material without justification, those sources seemed to be valid; and 2) your addition to the Description was not properly supported with citations. The Smithsonian Atlas you mention would seem to be a valid source, but it should not be the only or predominant source for the article; the description should not be changed without adding supporting sources/citations and those changes should retain the existing sources where appropriate. Please take some time to review WP:V and WP:CITE before making significant changes such as a new version of the river's description. Dl2000 ( talk) 16:47, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Central asia was part of the russian empire Look at the map-- 2601:3C5:8200:97E0:11A0:BA:8EAC:6579 ( talk) 04:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)-- 2601:3C5:8200:97E0:11A0:BA:8EAC:6579 ( talk) 04:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, can you check the situation in this article? You might want to check this first. This user has been making Russian nationalist edits and calling people who revert his edits as his "opponents". Now they reverted your and mine edits at attempting to fix that horrible nationalist POV article calling them "strange edits", and when I undid this act of vandalism it seems they have blamed me for WP:EDITWAR and WP:BATTLEGROUND, which I say is ironic since that's exactly what they have been doing. I think we need a third opinion to avoid an edit war, so can you check that? Adigabrek Talk 16:14, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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I made this edit because I think that you meant it to apply to the end of the next sentence that talks about cannibalism.
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I removed the note you added to Methuselah (tree). I have a subscription to the Washington Post, and did a search, which did not return any article about the tree. If you wish to reinstate the note, please add a URL in order for other editors to verify the material. The 4854-year age is currently supported by both The Rocky Mountain Tree Ring research group and The Gymnosperm Database. — hike395 ( talk) 04:36, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
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I was wondering if you could explain in more depth why you reverted my edit? I think the conceptual content of the original text remained unchanged - my edit was mostly to remove the use of "you", which is against Wikipedia style guidelines. Thanks, RaisedArizona ( talk) 03:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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Boo! Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 05:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I removed the quote on the share of GDP of SUGHD province of Tajikistan that you provided (i.e that Sughd accounts for 70% of the GDP), because there was no source listed for this and I could not verify the information.
Can you provide the source please? Thanks. 5 May 2009 Misha
Tajikistan is a Iranian-speaking country and also a large number of Iranian-speaking people live in Uzbekistan. So, I think the term 'Central Asia' is more appropriate as Turkestan literally means 'land of the Turks'. 'Russian conquest of Turkestan' suggests that they conquered the whole of Turkestan, but Russian camapign didn't cover East Turkestan (a large area). I know that 'Central Asia' isn't perfect either. But it's better of the two, according to me. Himel Rahmon ( talk)
Hi, thanks for expanding the Nogai Horde article. However, there are some problems and I've added the necessary tags. I noticed you added the sentence, "There appears to be no academic book in English on the Nogais, so this article is weakly sourced." Keep in mind that non-English sources are permitted on Wikipedia. If you have sources, and they aren't in English, feel free to add them to the article anyways. It is preferred that you use the <ref> ([1], [2], etc.) system (see an example at Ali Akbar Abdolrashidi). Also, keep in mind that we can't cite other Wikipedias, as Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source. Cheers and happy editing. Khoi khoi 09:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks for adding to the Tuckahoe/Cohee article. I haven't visited this article in some time, and I'm happy with its development. Your comparitive sociology segment is just what is needed to continue its development.
Incidently, as a root cause of small holders being successful in mountainous regions, it seems to me to be self-evident that the cost of military imposition of control on areas which are easily defended and favorable to guerilla-style warfare are high, while the marginal advantage of establishing such control is slight. In other words, the effort is not worth the reward of trying to bring such people under tight social control as long as they maintain a stubborn resistance to such control.
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I took a crack at making a map for you, take a look at Image:Siberiariverroutemap.png and let me know what you think. Any needed edits? Kmusser ( talk) 20:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
While the attempt was valiant, please don't "fix" moves/renames by means of cut-and-paste or reverts. They do little more than obscure the page history and make unreadable articles. To correct a "broken" cut and paste, it takes an administrator (such as myself) following extra steps to fix. See Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves for more information.|
If you'd like to move or rename a page, there is a "move" tab at the top of your screen which you may use instead. Using this function brings the page history along with the text, which is a requirement of the GFDL license that Wikipedia uses for its text.
The title is still not perfect, of course, but it may be a good idea to start a discussion on the article talkpage to get more ideas on page names. There may be better titles that we simply haven't thought of yet.
Let me know if you have any questions. Kylu ( talk) 02:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi Hi, thank you for inquiring about the Dzoosotoyn Elisen Desert article. If you would like to converse on my Talk Page, feel free to add it to your Watch List, and i will keep answering any questions there. Here are some links i hope will help.
Conversation thread here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Teledildonix314#Dzoostoyn_Elisen_Dessert
Help pages associated with this area here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_mergers
The two topics, which may or may not be Mergeable (i don't know the technical details, and i don't know any Chinese desert geography): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurbantunggut_Desert http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzoosotoyn_Elisen_Desert
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Thank you kindly, reply if you need more help suggestions, i'm sort of a newbie also. Teledildonix314 Talk ~ contributions 16:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I moved your sentence about the Russian location to a new article, Dobryi, which you might like to develop further. (It doesn't seem to have any connection with Dobry, Poland.)-- Kotniski ( talk) 08:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Great; major improvement on the old article. I'm looking forward to seeing Fedot Dankarl ( talk) 02:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry no help on Altasov. Dankarl ( talk) 13:00, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
I added some references and a little text to Anadyrsk; see what you think. Where does 1652 founding date come from? Dankarl ( talk) 02:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
So we have Atlasov to thank for the Fedotov story, and Stadukhin was appointed an Ataman. I had always thought the term Cossack was used pretty loosely in the context of Siberian colonization; use of the title Ataman is interesting. Dankarl ( talk) 17:14, 30 September 2009 (UTC) Is Ivanov building the stockade from Fisher? Dankarl ( talk) 23:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Have you seen anything on Kurbat Ibanov exploration of Gulf of Anadyr, Kresta Bay, Provideniya Bay circa 1660? Dankarl ( talk) 03:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Petit Fute says that the suggestion to rename East Cape as Cape Dezhnev came from A.E. Nordenskiold. I can't find confirmation of this information, but a Google search seems to suggest Fisher might mention it. Do you recall any such mention, or know another source? If you have it at hand, does it say when and where Nordenskiold made the suggestion? Dankarl ( talk) 19:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Please see my response at my talk page. Vmenkov ( talk) 03:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. What I don't get is that Ivanof was a mapmaker, he supposedly visited Provideniya Bay, but the bay did not wind up on Russian maps. Dankarl ( talk) 04:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I ran across (actually back across) a passage you might be interested in:
"The next day I discovered one of the reasons why reports of distances given us by different natives vary so much. Some of them calculate distance by 'sabachi,' the long or dog verst, and some by 'kony,' the short, or horse verst." Olaf Swenson, Northwest of the World Dodd Mead, NY, 1944 p 229. The conversation reported took place in a Yakut house in the Kolyma district in 1928, or possibly on the trail in the same region. Note Swenson spells phonetically. Dankarl ( talk) 19:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Benjamin, thanks for adding the Dutch map - it's a good interim solution. I'm currently creating a series of eight maps - one for each of the states with its territory highlighted then a generic one for things like the Warring States article. The problem I have is that I am stuck behind the GFC and can't upload anything to commons. Any chance you could help me out when the maps are complete? Best Philg88 ( talk) 05:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed for Stadukhin's page you cited Fisher's work. What does his work say about Stadukhin's expedition along the northern coast of the Sea of Okhotsk from 1651-57? Does it go into detail, or just mention it in passing? I would like to know whether it would be worth getting a copy, so I could perhaps cite it for an article I'm editing on wiki. Jonas Poole ( talk) 04:30, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Benjamin! I was wondering if you could give me some context for this entry (a town or fort)? I'm trying to determine whether it corresponds to any modern places called "Bely Yar". Thanks!— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); December 1, 2010; 18:34 (UTC)
Dear Benjamin Trovato, I will respond on my page where you posted your note [2]. Barefact ( talk) 06:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
[5] (((from BillMasen)))
If I span off the early part of History of Sino-Russian relations into its own article, would that be ok by you? And reduced the early history to a summary? You clearly know more about the subject that I can claim to. BillMasen ( talk) 14:52, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi, long time no see, hope all is well. There are a couple issues with this new map that you've added to Cai (state) amongst othera:
And that's just after a quick look. I haven't reverted your edits out of courtesy but please get this sorted out. Thanks and all the best. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 07:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Hello Benjamin. Congratulations on your new article Exploration of the Pacific. It is a very high quality article. I noticed that you nominated the two references you used. So far you have not identified in detail the source of any of the information in the article. Wikipedia requires that any information that is challenged, or likely to be challenged, must be independently verifiable by the use of in-line citations leading to the document, page number etc from which the information was taken. See WP:VERIFY.
Please have a look at WP:RS which provides a lot of information about the need for reliable sources being identified for all material published in Wikipedia. Please also return to your new article and add in-line citations to allow independent verification of your material. Keep up the good work! Dolphin ( t) 03:56, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Trade wind easterlies are constant in the tropics of both hemispheres, north and south, within 20 degrees of the equator, on the poleward side of the subtropical ridge. The problem is, people who initially sailed from the Philippines to Mexico in the 16th century would be sailing headlong into the easterlies (which blow FROM Mexico to the Philippines). It wasn't until they discovered the warm water currents like the Kuroshio and Gulf Stream that sailors found a quick way from west to east across the ocean. The problem is, the warm water currents that flow from west to east lie north of the 35th parallel, which is well north of Mexico and the Philippines, so it took them a while to figure it out. Eventually, they discovered the winds drove the currents, but that took another 2-3 centuries. Thegreatdr ( talk) 22:11, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I don't know whether you have noticed recent additions to Semyon Dezhnyov; there is now material drawn from several sources other than Fisher, with inline citations. I wonder whether I could persuade you to return long enough to add inline citations for the parts sourced from Ficher? Dankarl ( talk) 16:41, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
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This is probably the site at a location called called Kasilof, I have seen it variously attributed to Eskimo (presumably Aleutiq), Indians, and Russians, but the Russians I have seen mentioned are the group led by Kolomin of the Lebedef-Lastochkin Company and it's not clear whether the writer meant the Russians lived in these houses or that natives who moved there for trade did (looks like the author of the WP article read the same thing I did). I think I remember seeing some speculative mention of a Deshnev angle years ago but I can't turn it up now. Likewise I remember something about some unexplained Russian artifacts maybe from the same place or maybe nearer Anchorage. The site always seems to be presented as being a little mysterious; I have the impression the archaeologists are a little nonplussed at not being able to immediately classify it. A stretch. Very little available. Dankarl ( talk) 03:02, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hi! While doing the probable correction to this article, the inline citation to DoCB was also removed. It was intended to confirm Mackay at Pine Island Fort which it does. I presume it was removed in error. Will you put it back? Thanks! Stormbay ( talk) 03:41, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Benjamin Trovato, I have a couple questions regarding your recent edits to Alberta-related articles.
Please clarify on both. Cheers, Hwy43 ( talk) 03:03, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi Benjamin. In August 2011 I left a message on your Talk page about your new article Exploration of the Pacific. I drew your attention to Wikipedia’s policy that the information in articles should be attributed to a reliable published source. See my diff1 and diff2. You added one in-line citation. Since then, no additional in-line citations have been added so the article remains incomplete and incompatible with Wikipedia’s policy. For this reason, the article has the “Refimprove” banner.
Since August 2011 you have done a commendable job of creating many more new articles. With some of these articles you have added a suitable number of in-line citations to identify reliable published sources for your information. Those articles are:
Unfortunately, with many of your other articles you have supplied either no in-line citations, or an inadequate number. Other Users have observed the inadequate use of in-line citations and have added banners to eight of your articles, as follows:
I have added the “Refimprove” banner to six of your articles because they are incomplete due to insufficient use of in-line citations, and therefore incompatible with Wikipedia’s policy:
I have added the “No footnotes” banner to six of your articles that contain a reference or two but no in-line citations:
Your article Athabasca Country contains no references or citations of any kind. (This suggests you don't comprehend Wikipedia's policy regarding verifiability.) I added the “Nosources” banner.
Please don’t imagine that when you create a new article a group of Wikipedia volunteers will come along and add all the necessary in-line citations. Wikipedia doesn’t work that way. The User who adds a piece of information has primary responsibility to add sufficient in-line citations to identify reliable published sources from which that information can be independently verified. Please read WP:RS and WP:VERIFY – they clarify and confirm Wikipedia’s policy regarding the vital importance of having all published information able to be independently attributed to reliable published sources. Information that is not attributed to a source can be removed!
You have become a prolific creator of new articles and I congratulate you for that. However, before creating any new articles please return to the articles listed above, starting with Athabasca Country, and begin the process of adding sufficient in-line citations to allow the information in your articles to be independently verified as coming from a reliable published source. Happy editing! Dolphin ( t) 06:32, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Benjamin. Thanks for your prompt and considered reply. You ended by saying If I am missing something, let me know. I think you are missing something important and I will try to explain. You appear to believe writing an article for Wikipedia is like writing a blog for Facebook. On Facebook, people are allowed to write whatever they like, and present it in whatever format they like. Wikipedia is nothing like that. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that is being produced by an on-line community of people. The Wikipedia community has determined what the encyclopedia should ultimately look like, and has written a number of policies and guidance documents to achieve uniformity across the encyclopedia and to achieve a high level of credibility. One of the most important policies applicable to the entire encyclopedia is the policy of verifiability. You can read about it at WP:Verifiability. In your reply to me you did not mention any of Wikipedia’s policies or guidelines. Instead you told me about some of your personal views regarding Wikipedia. For example, your reply includes:
Wikipedia’s policy on verifiability is very simple and very clear. WP:Verifiability begins with the following summary in a box at the top of the page:
The Wikipedia community is entitled to determine policies regarding the accuracy and credibility of the final encyclopedia, and to determine standards to ensure a uniform appearance. Those policies and standards are now readily available to all Users in policy documents such as WP:Verifiability. When we contribute to Wikipedia there is an expectation that we will respect the policies and standards determined by the community. There is nothing written anywhere on Wikipedia that invites individual Users to invent their own style of writing, compose their own policies or apply their own personal views in contravention of the view of the Wikipedia community.
You are clearly a competent and prolific writer. We want you to produce articles that are of high quality and do not require a lot of repair work by others. Unfortunately, your personal views regarding in-line citations means your articles fall substantially short of Wikipedia’s quality standards because it is not immediately possible for your information to be independently verified as coming from a reliable published source. (See WP:RS) For many of your articles to reach an acceptable standard of quality in the area of verifiability it is necessary for other Users to add banners regarding finding and adding in-line citations, and ultimately for a large number of others to find suitable sources and add them as in-line citations. Why should you expect others to do this work for you? You are capable of doing it yourself.
The Wikipedia community’s policy regarding verifiability is not burdensome. It is entirely legitimate. Please respect that policy and apply it in your work on Wikipedia. Your personal views about footnotes and verifiability are not relevant here. Best wishes! Dolphin ( t) 06:18, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
@Benjamin: Many editors have reviewed your articles and placed a banner at the top of articles, saying "its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations." For example:
This is the official Wikipedia way of saying the whole article does not meet quality standards because more citations are needed. So rather than these editors placing a "citation needed" tag on one or two statements, they have flagged the fact that the entire article is in need of proper attribution to reliable published sources.
Wikipedia's policy on verifiability is available at WP:VERIFY. If you think this policy is inappropriate or in error, please discuss your desired changes at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability. Don't simply dismiss Wikipedia's legitimate requests and replace them with your personal views. Please respect Wikipedia's requests and don't make work for others unnecessarily. Thank you. Dolphin ( t) 22:42, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Reply: The people who posted these banners made no changes to the articles, did not mark as citation-needed any statement they could not find in the sources and left nothing on the talk page. I see no evidence that they looked at the references and were unable to verify any statement from the listed references. To justify a footnote or correction we need a specific case of something in the article that cannot be easily found in the references. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 05:33, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Here's the short version. Dolphin, you have been mis-representing policy. There's nothing in policy that says that what Benjamin is doing is wrong. Benjamin, you are misunderstanding the norms and norms for good editing practice of Wikipedia. The norm is to cite a large amount of the material that you write, much more than you have been. Besides being normal and good practice, it can lead to many problems (e.g. tagging and deletion of material once challenged, and even disappearance of the article if wp:notability of the topic is unclear and not established in sourcing) if you don't do that. Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 11:28, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Reply: As for WP:Verifiability I see nothing that requires inline citations when they are not needed. Oddly, it talks of inline citations rather than references and says nothing about the case in which something can be found by looking in the index of the reference. As for being called wrong, I have no objection to that. If two people disagree each thinks the other is wrong and until the matter is discussed each has a fifty-fifty chance of being right. As for persuading or educating me on Ymblanter's talk page, when two people disagree they are trying to help each other by correcting each others mistakes. If you seek to educate and not be educated you are missing half of the problem. Oddly, this is a religious issue. It is the old puritan-cavalier debate that was first recognized by Pericles in the Funeral Oration. Briefly, the puritan thinks that ethics is a matter of obeying rules and following orders while the cavalier thinks that one should know the problem and use good judgment. Dolphin appears to be a puritan who thinks that There Must Be Footnotes regardless of particular cases. I am taking the cavalier view that footnotes should be added only when they are necessary. We seem to be still at the original question: why should a footnote be added if the information can be easily found by looking in the reference? As for the multiple citation-neededs I checked Asp House and found everything in the reference with one minor exception. See the talk page of that article. I will probably check some of the others, but I have better things to do than check articles when there is no positive evidence that they need checking. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 06:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Reply: I went through William Pullen and found everything in the references except as noted on the talk page. I assume we agree on the following: Footnotes are sometimes needed and sometimes not. What is true in a hypothetical case is not necessarily true in a particular case. Counting footnotes is a good rough-and-ready way to guess that footnotes might be needed, but it remains a guess until someone does the work of comparing the article to the sources. I just realized that I have never attempted to verify someone else's article except in cases of contradiction, so I might not be a good judge. On the things I have checked I cannot remember a case where lack of Wikipedia footnotes caused a problem. In the future I will try to footnote anything that cannot be easily found by looking in the source index. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 10:17, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Benjamin. I have been noting that you have not been violating any rules when you have been writing without in-line citations, so this is not about that.
From our previous interactions I know that you write from sources. In that context I would like to make a suggestion to just put some in-line cites in as you are adding that material. One other observation is that IMHO it is 10 times easier to put them in initially (when you have the book or web page source open and also know where the just-inserted material came from) than it is to put them in later (including figuring what came from where). I would like to present a few more thoughts for my suggestion:
So my suggestion would be to just routinely put in more cites when adding the material and I hope that I have provided at least some support for that being a good idea. What do you think of my idea? Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 13:59, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Reply: Small things first. As for featured articles, I don't give a hoot. As for erasing my stuff, I usually respect the opinion of the other editor unless I have a strong case. These are usually questionable and it is better to err on the side of quality. As for footnotes to books, they are of no use unless you have the book and if I had the book I would just read it. A Wikipedia footnote would be good only if the information were in an odd place.
We seem to be dealing with a difference of personality or personal experience. My guess is that the Lotsa Footnotes idea came from people who had to deal with an edit war or had to clean up an article that had been messed up by many editors using many unfootnoted sources. They then applied this to normal articles which they had not looked at. Much of what I read has few footnotes and I have never noticed that the quality of a book or Wikipedia article was proportional to the number of footnotes. Since I rarely check other people's work to see if their article matches its sources (how often is this done?), I do not have a good feel for when footnotes are necessary. We seem to be where we started: Lotsa Footnotes as a general rule versus the hard work of looking at an article and seeing if footnotes are needed. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 12:47, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Ben. Most European rivers (except UK) are most commonly referred to in English (and often in their native language) as "Foo", although you will see all the other variants as well. "Foo River" is used in N America because "River" is part of the official name. This is not the case in Europe, where the Rhine is the Rhine and the Danube is just the Danube. Currently most European river articles follow this pattern; I have simply been trying to tidy up the anomalies. If you look at Azerbaijani river articles, you'll see that they are either "Foo" or "Foo River". The latter is just being used for disambiguation. The Aras is the same: Aras goes to some disambiguation page and the article was only called Aras River to disambiguate it. According to Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers#Naming that is wrong; it should be disambiguated by "(river)" which is what I've done. Hope that helps.
P.S. British rivers usually have "River" in front, but some place it behind too e.g. Fivehead River, East Lyn River. But here again "River" is part of the official name. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 10:01, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I'm Lakun.patra. Benjamin Trovato, thanks for creating Kyakhta trade!
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Heh, thanks for notifying, had missed this error myself in the reference. Its fixed now. Oh, and in case you're still wondering, that language (pagina's, etc) is Dutch. :-) Bests - LouisAragon ( talk) 06:23, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you for your interesting contributions such as the History of the western steppe, but please, can you add Wikipedia:Inline citation (footnotes) to your articles? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:00, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Benjamin Trovato, I will reply, as I don't think Piotrus saw your message as you didn't add a ping. I came to your page to add exactly the same comment as Piotrus. For a reader trying to see where a fact has come from, inline citations are always necessary. Without them, others are reluctant to add information and clear sources because it then gets confusing as to where each piece of information is sourced from. Also if the sources aren't inlnie, the article can never get Good Article or Featured Article status. The most important point, however, is simply that it is less clear for the reader, especially if they are looking to use the article for research. Best wishes, Boleyn ( talk) 21:37, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
You only add citations when you consider they are necessary? That is your practice but it is not what the vast majority of contributors to this project have determined is the best practice. Wikipedia’s principles on this subject are specified at WP:Verifiability. Those principles include All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed.
Wikipedia’s criterion for when an inline citation is required is any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, ... What Piotrus and Boleyn are saying is that they are challenging the verifiability of some of the information you have added. Whether you consider such citations are necessary is irrelevant. Your additions have been challenged so, according to Wikipedia’s principles, you are expected to supply inline citations.
This is not the first time your practice regarding citations has been challenged and explained to you in painful detail. See:
You choose to contribute to Wikipedia. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to choose to abide by the Wikipedia community’s principles? It's not difficult. Dolphin ( t) 01:11, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello. The edit you made may have changed the whole page. May you explain this please? -- George Ho ( talk) 22:47, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm Owlsmcgee. Benjamin Trovato, thanks for creating History of the central steppe!
I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Your work on the History of the central steppe is fantastic. However, I noticed that you didn't make use of inline citations, which is essential for helping others verify the source of factual information in an article. Since many of your sources are offline, it would be extremely helpful if you would consider adding your sources into the text of the article.
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Hello. Do you know if the RAC ever built a settlement on Big Shantar Island? In particular, a whaling station? I've seen photos and video of old rusted machinery on the island, including an old steam engine. Do you know anything about its history? ST1849 ( talk) 15:57, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
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Caught by a web host block but this host or IP is not a web host. Place any further information here. I have no idea why this happened. Have been using this for years. Recent changes. Updated Firefox, which I rarely use. Have Chrome also on. My condo is putting in a network, but my connection is independent of it. Benjamin Trovato ( talk) 17:13, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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Benjamin...not lurking...you and I worked together several years back on north woods stuff I still had you on my watch list. A proxy (server) is sort of like a "front man" which people use to go onto the internet for them to hide their IP address. It shows them its IP address instead. The notice is claiming that the IP address that is going on the internet for you is a known "front man" and they are blocking it, "not you". They are assuming that you are using some extraordinary measures to go through the front man, and are saying "stop doing that and just surf in the normal manner and you'll be OK". Of course the whole thing could be a mistake on their part. North8000 ( talk) 18:36, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for creating Kuban Nogai Uprising! I edit here too, under the username Caorongjin and it's nice to meet you :-)
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Could you please stop messing up the Ğazı II Giray article? You persist on bolding text in it which is not an accepted practice here and reanranging text so that huge chunks of text remain unreferenced. I understand you have good intentions but your actions are actively downgrading the quality of the article from B class which it was at the timeframe I rewrote it to start class.-- Catlemur ( talk) 22:44, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
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– bradv 🍁 21:22, 21 July 2019 (UTC)Thank you for your recent articles, including Canibek Giray, which I read with interest. When you create an extensive and well referenced article, you may want to have it featured on Wikipedia's main page in the Did You Know section. Articles included there will be read by thousands of our viewers. To do so, add your article to the list at T:TDYK. Let me know if you need help, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:15, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your recent articles, including Canibek Giray, which I read with interest. When you create a new article, can you add the WikiProject assessment templates to the talk of that article? See the talk page of the article I mentioned for an example of what I mean. Usually it is very simple, you just add something like {{WikiProject Keyword}} to the article's talk, with keyword replaced by the associated WikiProject (ex. if it's a biography article, you would use WikiProject Biography; if it's a United States article, you would use WikiProject United States, and so on). You do not have to rate the article if you do not want to, others will do it eventually. Those templates are very useful, as they bring the articles to a WikiProject attention, and allow them to start tracking the articles through Wikipedia:Article alerts and other tools. For example, WikiProject Poland relies on such templates to generate listings such as Article Alerts, Popular Pages, Quality and Importance Matrix and the Cleanup Listing. Thanks to them, WikiProject members are more easily able to defend your work from deletion, or simply help try to improve it further. Feel free to ask me any questions if you'd like more information about using those talk page templates. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:15, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Xingu River, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Dl2000 ( talk) 20:55, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
References and citations (see WP:CITE) are rather important. The problem with your edits [6] [7] were 1) you removed existing citations and article material without justification, those sources seemed to be valid; and 2) your addition to the Description was not properly supported with citations. The Smithsonian Atlas you mention would seem to be a valid source, but it should not be the only or predominant source for the article; the description should not be changed without adding supporting sources/citations and those changes should retain the existing sources where appropriate. Please take some time to review WP:V and WP:CITE before making significant changes such as a new version of the river's description. Dl2000 ( talk) 16:47, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Central asia was part of the russian empire Look at the map-- 2601:3C5:8200:97E0:11A0:BA:8EAC:6579 ( talk) 04:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)-- 2601:3C5:8200:97E0:11A0:BA:8EAC:6579 ( talk) 04:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, can you check the situation in this article? You might want to check this first. This user has been making Russian nationalist edits and calling people who revert his edits as his "opponents". Now they reverted your and mine edits at attempting to fix that horrible nationalist POV article calling them "strange edits", and when I undid this act of vandalism it seems they have blamed me for WP:EDITWAR and WP:BATTLEGROUND, which I say is ironic since that's exactly what they have been doing. I think we need a third opinion to avoid an edit war, so can you check that? Adigabrek Talk 16:14, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you for creating Persian crisis of 1722-1736.
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An article you recently created,
Saadet IV Giray, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from
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Please do not introduce links in actual articles to draft articles, as you did to Meñli II Giray. Since a draft is not yet ready for the main article space, it is not in shape for ordinary readers, and links from articles should not go to a draft. Such links are contrary to the Manual of Style. These links have been removed. Thank you. - Arjayay ( talk) 12:59, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot ( talk) 08:01, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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Boleyn ( talk) 18:21, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot ( talk) 00:04, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Benjamin Trovato. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Devlet III Giray, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot ( talk) 01:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
I made this edit because I think that you meant it to apply to the end of the next sentence that talks about cannibalism.
In addition, the proper way to handle an issue is to tag it, in this case with {{ better source}}.– CaroleHenson ( talk) 23:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 23:38, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Benjamin Trovato. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Devlet III Giray".
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
I removed the note you added to Methuselah (tree). I have a subscription to the Washington Post, and did a search, which did not return any article about the tree. If you wish to reinstate the note, please add a URL in order for other editors to verify the material. The 4854-year age is currently supported by both The Rocky Mountain Tree Ring research group and The Gymnosperm Database. — hike395 ( talk) 04:36, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Hi there Benjamin,
I was wondering if you could explain in more depth why you reverted my edit? I think the conceptual content of the original text remained unchanged - my edit was mostly to remove the use of "you", which is against Wikipedia style guidelines. Thanks, RaisedArizona ( talk) 03:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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