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Why do you keep reverting all of my edits, there are like a billion Wikipedia users out there but you chose to persistently revert MY edits. Now please stop with this drama or there will be trouble. Thank you. Dino245 ( talk) 01:29, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
I do, however revert poor edits on articles which are on my watchlist because I have previously edited them, such as this recent one: [1] where you undid a clear improvement with no explanation. If you don't want your edits to be reverted I suggest you take more care not to make such bad ones. We'd like to retain editors, not scare them away by undoing their positive work with no explanation.
I hope that makes things clearer for you. As for 'trouble', I agree that it is a wise thing not to seek that out, and I advise you to stop doing so with poorly considered knee-jerk little 'mini-rants' like this. Thank you. -- Begoon 01:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
"This applies to pages consisting entirely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history. It does not cover poor writing, partisan screeds, obscene remarks, implausible theories, vandalism or hoaxes, fictional material, coherent non-English material, or poorly translated material.". That clearly doesn't apply in this case, and again you risk discouraging a good faith new editor by careless application of inappropriate deletion templates.
The other reason I'm pointing it out is that, when removing the tag after the editor had raised their concern with you (again with no explanatory edit summary), you also carelessly removed the AFC template. I'll leave you to correct your own error, since you dislike being reverted. Update: The editor has now had to fix your new error and replace the tag themselves. --
Begoon
03:14, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Can you please delete the section above, as I was rejected at Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback because of it? Also, can you be nice enough and give me rollback privileges, since you are an admin? Thanks, Dino245 ( talk) 13:13, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
It makes no difference to experienced editors whether a section is still on a page or has been removed or archived anyway. The admin who denied your request would look through your contributions, and would see this conversation in any case - removing things isn't a way to "hide them" - you should remember that when dealing with your own talk page messages. Your contribution list and page histories, and those of every editor, are a permanent record of all edits you have made and all messages you have received, and are viewable by anyone, at any time. Removing something from a page doesn't change that. -- Begoon 13:41, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 05:58, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello!
Thanks for editing all my SVGs. I opened the SVGs you said were fake in Inkscape and it seemed as only the trophies in the File:Svenska Cupen logo.svg and File:Svenska Cupen (women) logo.svg were raster, is that correct? The trophies were the only part that didn't show any nodes anyway. About the File:IFK Uddevalla logo.svg though, every part does show nodes so I don't understand what's raster in that logo. Can you please explain? Thanks! Jonteemil ( talk) 06:32, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
As for File:IFK Uddevalla logo.svg - yes, that's a pure vector - all I did was reduce the nominal dimensions, per NFC and tidy the code a bit. Where did I imply that one is not a vector? You may be confusing it with File:IFK Uddevalla Futsal logo.svg which is basically nothing but raster/bitmap in an svg "wrapper". It looks quite smooth even at relatively large rescales because it's a 4000px bitmap so you won't get "jaggies" unless you scale it larger - but it's a bitmap nonetheless. -- Begoon 07:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
{{
di-orphaned fair use}}
- they'll be deleted as CSD:F5 orphans in 7 days - there's no real rush. Thanks also for updating the logos for all the articles you have done - they are greatly improved by
your efforts. Cheers. --
Begoon
08:39, 15 August 2019 (UTC)My pleasure! By the way, do you think you can take a look at File:Landskrona BoIS logo.svg? I removed the redundant invisible part of the file but it didn't go as planned, see for example Landskrona BoIS and sv:Landskrona BoIS, it doesn't generate correctly. Jonteemil ( talk) 09:09, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Incidentally, in most infoboxes at least here at en.wp you don't need (and shouldn't use) the [[File:xxx.xxx|xxx]]
mark-up - you just use the filename without the File:
prefix.
If you want a caption there's usually a |caption=
parameter or similar, and there's also usually |image_size=
or similar for image size. The use of the latter is discouraged though, because it overrides default thumbnail sizes in people's preferences - so you should only force a size if unavoidable. If |image_upright=
or |upright=
or similar is available, that's preferable if you absolutely have to make images display differently because of aspect ratio (see
Help:Pictures#Upright_images) - but many infoboxes don't have it. In general just leaving the size out is best.
If you can't find the parameters you have to look at the documentation for the particular infobox - in this case {{
Infobox football club}}
. Sadly, they have not been standardised... --
Begoon
09:55, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
I deleted the cache on my computer and it all looks good now. Mindblown every time something works. Thanks again! Jonteemil ( talk) 10:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
the "V" is
<p><polygon clip-path="url(#SVGID_32_)" fill="#231F20" points="98.65,31.171 111.358,31.171 91.38,88.032 79.816,88.032
60.037,31.171 73.113,31.171 85.822,74.328 "/>
<polygon clip-path="url(#SVGID_32_)" fill="none" stroke="#231F20" stroke-width="6.0893" stroke-miterlimit="3.864" points="
98.65,31.171 111.358,31.171 91.38,88.032 79.816,88.032 60.037,31.171 73.113,31.171 85.822,74.328 "/>
<polygon clip-path="url(#SVGID_32_)" fill="#231F20" points="383.639,31.171 395.531,31.171 395.531,54.599 417.867,31.171
433.48,31.171 409.773,54.599 434.693,88.032 419.16,88.032 401.301,63.19 395.531,69.018 395.531,88.032 383.639,88.032 "/>
<polygon clip-path="url(#SVGID_32_)" fill="none" stroke="#231F20" stroke-width="6.0893" stroke-miterlimit="3.864" points="
383.639,31.171 395.531,31.171 395.531,54.599 417.867,31.171 433.48,31.171 409.773,54.599 434.693,88.032 419.16,88.032
401.301,63.19 395.531,69.018 395.531,88.032 383.639,88.032 "/>
If you don't see any handles or control points then you can select one and use Path > Object to Path from the menu.
Embedded rasters are easy to recognise if you open an svg in a text editor like Notepad++ - you'll see something like:
<image xlink:href="data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgEASABIAAD/7AARRHVja3kAAQAEAAAAHgAA/+4AIUFkb2JlAGTAAAAAAQMA EAMCAwYAAewfAALx6gAGJzv/2wCEABALCwsMCxAMDBAXDw0PFxsUEBAUGx8XFxcXFx8eFxoaGhoX Hh4jJSclIx4vLzMzLy9AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEABEQ8PERMRFRISFRQRFBEUGhQWFhQaJhoaHBoa JjAjHh4eHiMwKy4nJycuKzU1MDA1NUBAP0BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQP/CABEID6APoAMBIgACEQEDEQH/ xAD0AAEAAwADAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAABQYHAQMEAgEBAAMBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEBQIBEAABBAIA BAYABAYCAwEBAAMCAQMEBQAGEDBAESBQYBITFCEzFQdwMSIyNRaAIyQ2FyU0kLAmEQACAQECBgoP BQUHBAIDAQEBAgMEABEhMUFREiIgQGFxgZGhsTITEDBQYMHRQlJicpIjQxQFgqKywjTSM1NzJHDh Y4OTo7OA8MMV8ePi02R0sBIAAQICBQoFBAEFAQEBAQEBAQACESEQMDFBUSBAUGFxgZESIjKhsdFS A8FCYnJgcOGCkhMz8aKQ8FP/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQAAANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOs7H k6OvJJDdPXk+rXT1za1P6/V0Ub468vigdfvmhs6+TR2bcetKZoeaWzQaWzXl7pLOPrxorPOwv6h/ fnt5Uvs59uCqd3iyoDu56mUb38++t19nPoAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA4OXk8PfMyq/hk5uzPPFJxqHVk/RJzqfkzZ3zfvJTHfNp81fd8 y3m8Tvzt6jrkPQAA+j5d/wB+e+V7ezz2OSf14ikvz4h0yIZMiGTHBEJX59RiR6/Xier4986H18++ AAAO3qePb6Ylz1YPTVnHtz9dBcdaT68rcdbB24338da6y/2x9aGpPuj7tCG90fXrcc8dAAAAAAAA .... lots of unreadable encoded binary data - usually several screenfuls like this...
Hello again! How do you identify what part of a vector file that’s raster? For example the logo for A3 Basket on page 6 of https://doc-0c-5k-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/pvp69trs9r6b9ml1b59m5g8kkmh93uho/fkl7ul3q072cuit31blv4jmnikouoivt/1568044800000/11838691802533371934/15330211272914938303/1mdd5Z4DTM8n5nhBQk6NCZXL2JiSJSD1n?e=download&nonce=ebg3ud78iu1po&user=15330211272914938303&hash=l5d0geihj1s85bcirbpc5b5vaih5b13j seems completely vector, yet Notepad++ finds several png and jpg images. I don’t know how this can be. Jonteemil ( talk) 16:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
<image...>
tags with their encoded base64 binary data in Notepad++ one by one, saving as a 'test' svg and seeing what, if anything changes when you look at the modified svg. You have to be careful not to remove anything else, or you'll just break the svg.Another quick and dirty trick is to put a copy of the suspect svg in a new, empty folder somewhere, open it with Inkscape and save as PDF in the same folder, then open that document with Inkscape. Uncheck "embed images", in the (second?) dialog when opening and all the pngs/jpegs should be extracted into that folder so you can see what they are. (Make sure you do this in a new, empty folder, because for Illustrator effects and the like there can be dozens of bitmaps and if they get thrown all over a folder like your desktop you'll curse the cleanup task...)
If you want me to see the file without email/uploading to other sites, you can upload it (upload a new version of this file...) briefly to Commons:File:Test.svg then revert that file to the 'Test Card' image straight away for other users and let me know you did that, then I can get it from the file history. -- Begoon 22:05, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
One of the problems diagnosing pdf <=> svg 'issues' is that, while svg is an open format, pdf isn't - it's a proprietary (compressed binary?) format owned by Adobe, so it can be a bit of a 'black box' and difficult to peer 'under the hood'. It certainly has at least a few built in 'transition algorithms' between it and Adobe's own Illustrator which can be rather 'opaque' and more than a little confusing/mysterious.
Anyway, what's really important is that Spock did say that in the novel "
Spock Must Die!" by James Blish, which I owned as a boy, and that is obviously why I remember it - I don't think he ever said it on screen; the Star Trek Wiki says "Alfred Korzybski (July 3, 1879 - March 1. 1950) was a Human philosopher. He coined the phrase "A difference which makes no difference is no difference.""
but most real life searches credit it to William James or to C. S. Peirce. --
Begoon
00:00, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello. As you had dealt with the copyright issue of this file- File:College of Agriculture Pune logo.png on 8th October, can you please also take a look at this file? - File:The Asiatic Society of Mumbai Logo.png. And can you please tell me how to put this template 'Non-free media information and use rationale' and the whole matter regarding the same while uploading a work which is not mine? Prat1212 ( talk) 20:11, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
sorry for any inconvenience. I fixed the issues that you raised. please let me know if there is still any thing required. John's friend took the photo while John was performing in Llewellyn Hall,Canberra, Australia . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nrahimian ( talk • contribs) 03:37, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Be aware that donating the image under a free license means that anyone, anywhere, will be able to use or modify the image for whatever purpose, even commercial, they choose, even if those uses might be ones of which the copyright holder would not approve, and there would be no legal recourse in that event. You can't restrict usage of the donated image to wikipedia, or to non-commercial use, forbid modifications, or restrict in other ways, since that would not result in a compatible free license for us to use. Some people/organisations are unwilling to make such a donation, for those reasons, so I felt it wise just to mention the implications. Thanks for taking the trouble to do this properly - it's appreciated. -- Begoon 05:47, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Can you reduce (and crop) this file? Thanks! AlbanGeller ( talk) 10:36, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw that you cut
File:Iran_Khodro_logo.svg to the content removed the white space just by editing the code. I thought you could tell me how to do it for this logo
File:Compuware_company_logo_2018.svg. I am certainly not an svg expert. Sorry if I am bothering you.
Masum Reza
📞
14:06, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
If you don't want to resize, but just want to crop to the content, you can skip the steps with the extra indent.
As you discovered, you can change overall nominal size with a quick code change, but in this case you want to trim to all the elements, so Inkscape is easier. You can read all about viewbox/viewport sizing in the tutorial here. Cheers. -- Begoon 00:12, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi, could you help me to build up a proper rationale for the image? I do not have experience in doing so, and I believe, whether I made a mistake from the beginning or not, that this image is relevant to the Copa América Centenario article, as well as the CONMEBOL article. I'm sorry to make use of your time, but if you could help out, it would be greatly appreciated. Cheers! 3BRBS ( talk) 04:28, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Incidentally, if you'd like wider input than just my opinion on how NFC should be interpreted here, you are always free to start a discussion for either or both of these older logos at WP:FFD - a wider range of opinions can often be helpful. -- Begoon 05:22, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for replacing the file with a .png file ( File:UniWestminster_Coat_of_Arms.png -- Aloneinthewild ( talk) 09:59, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
However, it's not always a good idea to convert from jpeg to png - particularly for Mediawiki use, because Mediawiki "blurs" thumbnails of some png images - especially those containing "photographic" data. There's also the obvious issue that a png will usually be bigger (sometimes many times bigger) because it's not compressed like a jpeg, so png files take longer to download and use more bandwidth. That's not the big issue it once was, with improving internet speeds, but it can still be significant, especially for large files. Smaller files are obviously more "mobile friendly".
Png is useful because it's lossless, which means you can edit and save a png without quality loss. Jpeg potentially degrades every time you edit and resave because it gets recompressed, and that's a "lossy" process. For that reason if you are going to be editing a file it's always best to work in a png "master" file which you keep, and save the jpeg only when (each time) the editing is done.
The mediawiki 'blurry' png thumbnail issue is annoying, and longstanding. Png is a lossless format, unlike jpg which degrades when edited, so keeping lossless png 'masters' but using a jpg copy for thumbnailing is a workaround. Mediawiki sharpens jpg thumbnails, but not png, often resulting in annoyingly, noticeably 'blurry' png thumbnails by comparison. See c:Commons:Graphic Lab/Photography workshop/Archive/2018#Margaret Thatcher and phabricator: T192744 for more on this issue of 'blurry' png thumbnailing by mediawiki. -- Begoon 10:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Damn you're fast! :) Do you mind doing the same for the other logos? Also some parts near the edges seem to have vanished for some reason, can it be fixed? Jonteemil ( talk) 06:07, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
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The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar |
Thanks for your edits regarding the copyright issues I faced. Taha Wasiq 19:14, 1 November 2019 (UTC)(UTC) |
Who remove this page( Allegations of support system in Pakistan for Osama bin Laden) from wikipedia and please recover this page Jku456 ( talk) 10:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Incidentally, I was quite serious in my message on your talk page - your disruptive behaviour and lack of competence with "see-also"s has got to stop now. My patience, and that of others, is pretty much exhausted clearing up the mess you've been making. -- Begoon 21:25, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
The reason why the caption is redundant is that the building has not changed since 2012, so context of when the photo was taken is irrelevant. It's very obvious that the image depicts the subject of the article, as it is at the top of the infobox, so telling people that it is an image of the towers is also irrelevant. To me, it is clear that this caption is redundant. IWI ( chat) 19:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Begoon. Would you mind reducing these fair-use images, if you have the time? Thanks! AlbanGeller ( talk) 10:27, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
{{
Non-free reduce}}
in the meantime.
AlbanGeller (
talk)
10:50, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw you uploaded a new version of the Oakland Raiders 60th logo. I’m not sure what you changed to it, but I have always been told that the hxw should be 300x300px, or under... that’s why I had it at 228x248. I’m just curious as there wasn’t an explanation! Corky 09:05, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
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Why do you keep reverting all of my edits, there are like a billion Wikipedia users out there but you chose to persistently revert MY edits. Now please stop with this drama or there will be trouble. Thank you. Dino245 ( talk) 01:29, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
I do, however revert poor edits on articles which are on my watchlist because I have previously edited them, such as this recent one: [1] where you undid a clear improvement with no explanation. If you don't want your edits to be reverted I suggest you take more care not to make such bad ones. We'd like to retain editors, not scare them away by undoing their positive work with no explanation.
I hope that makes things clearer for you. As for 'trouble', I agree that it is a wise thing not to seek that out, and I advise you to stop doing so with poorly considered knee-jerk little 'mini-rants' like this. Thank you. -- Begoon 01:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
"This applies to pages consisting entirely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history. It does not cover poor writing, partisan screeds, obscene remarks, implausible theories, vandalism or hoaxes, fictional material, coherent non-English material, or poorly translated material.". That clearly doesn't apply in this case, and again you risk discouraging a good faith new editor by careless application of inappropriate deletion templates.
The other reason I'm pointing it out is that, when removing the tag after the editor had raised their concern with you (again with no explanatory edit summary), you also carelessly removed the AFC template. I'll leave you to correct your own error, since you dislike being reverted. Update: The editor has now had to fix your new error and replace the tag themselves. --
Begoon
03:14, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Can you please delete the section above, as I was rejected at Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Rollback because of it? Also, can you be nice enough and give me rollback privileges, since you are an admin? Thanks, Dino245 ( talk) 13:13, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
It makes no difference to experienced editors whether a section is still on a page or has been removed or archived anyway. The admin who denied your request would look through your contributions, and would see this conversation in any case - removing things isn't a way to "hide them" - you should remember that when dealing with your own talk page messages. Your contribution list and page histories, and those of every editor, are a permanent record of all edits you have made and all messages you have received, and are viewable by anyone, at any time. Removing something from a page doesn't change that. -- Begoon 13:41, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
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Five years! |
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 05:58, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello!
Thanks for editing all my SVGs. I opened the SVGs you said were fake in Inkscape and it seemed as only the trophies in the File:Svenska Cupen logo.svg and File:Svenska Cupen (women) logo.svg were raster, is that correct? The trophies were the only part that didn't show any nodes anyway. About the File:IFK Uddevalla logo.svg though, every part does show nodes so I don't understand what's raster in that logo. Can you please explain? Thanks! Jonteemil ( talk) 06:32, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
As for File:IFK Uddevalla logo.svg - yes, that's a pure vector - all I did was reduce the nominal dimensions, per NFC and tidy the code a bit. Where did I imply that one is not a vector? You may be confusing it with File:IFK Uddevalla Futsal logo.svg which is basically nothing but raster/bitmap in an svg "wrapper". It looks quite smooth even at relatively large rescales because it's a 4000px bitmap so you won't get "jaggies" unless you scale it larger - but it's a bitmap nonetheless. -- Begoon 07:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
{{
di-orphaned fair use}}
- they'll be deleted as CSD:F5 orphans in 7 days - there's no real rush. Thanks also for updating the logos for all the articles you have done - they are greatly improved by
your efforts. Cheers. --
Begoon
08:39, 15 August 2019 (UTC)My pleasure! By the way, do you think you can take a look at File:Landskrona BoIS logo.svg? I removed the redundant invisible part of the file but it didn't go as planned, see for example Landskrona BoIS and sv:Landskrona BoIS, it doesn't generate correctly. Jonteemil ( talk) 09:09, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Incidentally, in most infoboxes at least here at en.wp you don't need (and shouldn't use) the [[File:xxx.xxx|xxx]]
mark-up - you just use the filename without the File:
prefix.
If you want a caption there's usually a |caption=
parameter or similar, and there's also usually |image_size=
or similar for image size. The use of the latter is discouraged though, because it overrides default thumbnail sizes in people's preferences - so you should only force a size if unavoidable. If |image_upright=
or |upright=
or similar is available, that's preferable if you absolutely have to make images display differently because of aspect ratio (see
Help:Pictures#Upright_images) - but many infoboxes don't have it. In general just leaving the size out is best.
If you can't find the parameters you have to look at the documentation for the particular infobox - in this case {{
Infobox football club}}
. Sadly, they have not been standardised... --
Begoon
09:55, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
I deleted the cache on my computer and it all looks good now. Mindblown every time something works. Thanks again! Jonteemil ( talk) 10:20, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
the "V" is
<p><polygon clip-path="url(#SVGID_32_)" fill="#231F20" points="98.65,31.171 111.358,31.171 91.38,88.032 79.816,88.032
60.037,31.171 73.113,31.171 85.822,74.328 "/>
<polygon clip-path="url(#SVGID_32_)" fill="none" stroke="#231F20" stroke-width="6.0893" stroke-miterlimit="3.864" points="
98.65,31.171 111.358,31.171 91.38,88.032 79.816,88.032 60.037,31.171 73.113,31.171 85.822,74.328 "/>
<polygon clip-path="url(#SVGID_32_)" fill="#231F20" points="383.639,31.171 395.531,31.171 395.531,54.599 417.867,31.171
433.48,31.171 409.773,54.599 434.693,88.032 419.16,88.032 401.301,63.19 395.531,69.018 395.531,88.032 383.639,88.032 "/>
<polygon clip-path="url(#SVGID_32_)" fill="none" stroke="#231F20" stroke-width="6.0893" stroke-miterlimit="3.864" points="
383.639,31.171 395.531,31.171 395.531,54.599 417.867,31.171 433.48,31.171 409.773,54.599 434.693,88.032 419.16,88.032
401.301,63.19 395.531,69.018 395.531,88.032 383.639,88.032 "/>
If you don't see any handles or control points then you can select one and use Path > Object to Path from the menu.
Embedded rasters are easy to recognise if you open an svg in a text editor like Notepad++ - you'll see something like:
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Hello again! How do you identify what part of a vector file that’s raster? For example the logo for A3 Basket on page 6 of https://doc-0c-5k-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/pvp69trs9r6b9ml1b59m5g8kkmh93uho/fkl7ul3q072cuit31blv4jmnikouoivt/1568044800000/11838691802533371934/15330211272914938303/1mdd5Z4DTM8n5nhBQk6NCZXL2JiSJSD1n?e=download&nonce=ebg3ud78iu1po&user=15330211272914938303&hash=l5d0geihj1s85bcirbpc5b5vaih5b13j seems completely vector, yet Notepad++ finds several png and jpg images. I don’t know how this can be. Jonteemil ( talk) 16:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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tags with their encoded base64 binary data in Notepad++ one by one, saving as a 'test' svg and seeing what, if anything changes when you look at the modified svg. You have to be careful not to remove anything else, or you'll just break the svg.Another quick and dirty trick is to put a copy of the suspect svg in a new, empty folder somewhere, open it with Inkscape and save as PDF in the same folder, then open that document with Inkscape. Uncheck "embed images", in the (second?) dialog when opening and all the pngs/jpegs should be extracted into that folder so you can see what they are. (Make sure you do this in a new, empty folder, because for Illustrator effects and the like there can be dozens of bitmaps and if they get thrown all over a folder like your desktop you'll curse the cleanup task...)
If you want me to see the file without email/uploading to other sites, you can upload it (upload a new version of this file...) briefly to Commons:File:Test.svg then revert that file to the 'Test Card' image straight away for other users and let me know you did that, then I can get it from the file history. -- Begoon 22:05, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
One of the problems diagnosing pdf <=> svg 'issues' is that, while svg is an open format, pdf isn't - it's a proprietary (compressed binary?) format owned by Adobe, so it can be a bit of a 'black box' and difficult to peer 'under the hood'. It certainly has at least a few built in 'transition algorithms' between it and Adobe's own Illustrator which can be rather 'opaque' and more than a little confusing/mysterious.
Anyway, what's really important is that Spock did say that in the novel "
Spock Must Die!" by James Blish, which I owned as a boy, and that is obviously why I remember it - I don't think he ever said it on screen; the Star Trek Wiki says "Alfred Korzybski (July 3, 1879 - March 1. 1950) was a Human philosopher. He coined the phrase "A difference which makes no difference is no difference.""
but most real life searches credit it to William James or to C. S. Peirce. --
Begoon
00:00, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello. As you had dealt with the copyright issue of this file- File:College of Agriculture Pune logo.png on 8th October, can you please also take a look at this file? - File:The Asiatic Society of Mumbai Logo.png. And can you please tell me how to put this template 'Non-free media information and use rationale' and the whole matter regarding the same while uploading a work which is not mine? Prat1212 ( talk) 20:11, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
sorry for any inconvenience. I fixed the issues that you raised. please let me know if there is still any thing required. John's friend took the photo while John was performing in Llewellyn Hall,Canberra, Australia . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nrahimian ( talk • contribs) 03:37, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Be aware that donating the image under a free license means that anyone, anywhere, will be able to use or modify the image for whatever purpose, even commercial, they choose, even if those uses might be ones of which the copyright holder would not approve, and there would be no legal recourse in that event. You can't restrict usage of the donated image to wikipedia, or to non-commercial use, forbid modifications, or restrict in other ways, since that would not result in a compatible free license for us to use. Some people/organisations are unwilling to make such a donation, for those reasons, so I felt it wise just to mention the implications. Thanks for taking the trouble to do this properly - it's appreciated. -- Begoon 05:47, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Can you reduce (and crop) this file? Thanks! AlbanGeller ( talk) 10:36, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw that you cut
File:Iran_Khodro_logo.svg to the content removed the white space just by editing the code. I thought you could tell me how to do it for this logo
File:Compuware_company_logo_2018.svg. I am certainly not an svg expert. Sorry if I am bothering you.
Masum Reza
📞
14:06, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
If you don't want to resize, but just want to crop to the content, you can skip the steps with the extra indent.
As you discovered, you can change overall nominal size with a quick code change, but in this case you want to trim to all the elements, so Inkscape is easier. You can read all about viewbox/viewport sizing in the tutorial here. Cheers. -- Begoon 00:12, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi, could you help me to build up a proper rationale for the image? I do not have experience in doing so, and I believe, whether I made a mistake from the beginning or not, that this image is relevant to the Copa América Centenario article, as well as the CONMEBOL article. I'm sorry to make use of your time, but if you could help out, it would be greatly appreciated. Cheers! 3BRBS ( talk) 04:28, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Incidentally, if you'd like wider input than just my opinion on how NFC should be interpreted here, you are always free to start a discussion for either or both of these older logos at WP:FFD - a wider range of opinions can often be helpful. -- Begoon 05:22, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for replacing the file with a .png file ( File:UniWestminster_Coat_of_Arms.png -- Aloneinthewild ( talk) 09:59, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
However, it's not always a good idea to convert from jpeg to png - particularly for Mediawiki use, because Mediawiki "blurs" thumbnails of some png images - especially those containing "photographic" data. There's also the obvious issue that a png will usually be bigger (sometimes many times bigger) because it's not compressed like a jpeg, so png files take longer to download and use more bandwidth. That's not the big issue it once was, with improving internet speeds, but it can still be significant, especially for large files. Smaller files are obviously more "mobile friendly".
Png is useful because it's lossless, which means you can edit and save a png without quality loss. Jpeg potentially degrades every time you edit and resave because it gets recompressed, and that's a "lossy" process. For that reason if you are going to be editing a file it's always best to work in a png "master" file which you keep, and save the jpeg only when (each time) the editing is done.
The mediawiki 'blurry' png thumbnail issue is annoying, and longstanding. Png is a lossless format, unlike jpg which degrades when edited, so keeping lossless png 'masters' but using a jpg copy for thumbnailing is a workaround. Mediawiki sharpens jpg thumbnails, but not png, often resulting in annoyingly, noticeably 'blurry' png thumbnails by comparison. See c:Commons:Graphic Lab/Photography workshop/Archive/2018#Margaret Thatcher and phabricator: T192744 for more on this issue of 'blurry' png thumbnailing by mediawiki. -- Begoon 10:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Damn you're fast! :) Do you mind doing the same for the other logos? Also some parts near the edges seem to have vanished for some reason, can it be fixed? Jonteemil ( talk) 06:07, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for your edits regarding the copyright issues I faced. Taha Wasiq 19:14, 1 November 2019 (UTC)(UTC) |
Who remove this page( Allegations of support system in Pakistan for Osama bin Laden) from wikipedia and please recover this page Jku456 ( talk) 10:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Incidentally, I was quite serious in my message on your talk page - your disruptive behaviour and lack of competence with "see-also"s has got to stop now. My patience, and that of others, is pretty much exhausted clearing up the mess you've been making. -- Begoon 21:25, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
The reason why the caption is redundant is that the building has not changed since 2012, so context of when the photo was taken is irrelevant. It's very obvious that the image depicts the subject of the article, as it is at the top of the infobox, so telling people that it is an image of the towers is also irrelevant. To me, it is clear that this caption is redundant. IWI ( chat) 19:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Begoon. Would you mind reducing these fair-use images, if you have the time? Thanks! AlbanGeller ( talk) 10:27, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
{{
Non-free reduce}}
in the meantime.
AlbanGeller (
talk)
10:50, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, I saw you uploaded a new version of the Oakland Raiders 60th logo. I’m not sure what you changed to it, but I have always been told that the hxw should be 300x300px, or under... that’s why I had it at 228x248. I’m just curious as there wasn’t an explanation! Corky 09:05, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
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