Mr. Beamathan, I just realize that it is written in the article Kosovo: "Kosova" redirects here. For other uses, see Kosova (disambiguation). but that is not the case as when I type Kosova it does redirect me to " Kosova (disambiguation)". So I would appreciate your help, Sir. -- Tubesship ( talk) 07:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have thrown my support behind this in the talk:kosovo page. Beam ( talk) 11:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello Beamathan, contrary to a reached consensus there is a splitting going on instead a merging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kosovo#Split_completed And I would appreciate your assistance. Thank you! -- Tubesship ( talk) 05:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I could not tell you how much thankfulness I felt about your involvement in the article Kosova. It seemed that it was foremost your endeavour that saved this article from being abused by people with an obvious resentment against Albanians. So I wanted to thank you, dear Beam! But your trying to create a fork surprised me. Not in a good way. -- Tubesship ( talk) 03:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)BTW: I hope you do not change your mind about the Kosova case like many turncoats before as this forks seems to indicate this.
- Well, just so you know, I don't think it's helpful when you spout crap like "KOSOVO IS INDEPENDENT THIS IS A FACT, REPUBLIC OF KOSOVO IS KOSOVO." But hey, I do what I can. And it didn't work anyway. I had the article actually working, and then it was reverted, and I don't feel like an edit war. Beam ( talk) 21:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry Beam, but I think Ricky just prevented a POV fork. You should learn to accept that Kosova is not at all "crap". -- Tubesship ( talk) 10:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
You are a very manpipulative person Tube. When I was arguing for NPOV you were only hoping to be able to instill your personal POV. Look at all your "Thank you beam, dear" posts. They were all lies. I can't believe how quickly some people discard NPOV after it's been used to get rid of something they apparently were only interested in changing to their POV not NPOV. It's almost funny. Beam ( talk) 16:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Do not lose your sense of humor, you will need it, if you are really a turncoat as your pro merging, pro splitting moves indicates. Well, everybody is like he is, take it easy. -- Tubesship ( talk) 16:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC) BTW: You may rather call me naive as you obviously managed to fool me.
- I'm now officially disgusted. Fooled you? I am staying with the same argument I've had for weeks. Go look at the talk page. Go look at what you've said, and now look at what you're saying! How can you try telling me that I'm a "turncoat"? I fought for this merge harder than ANYONE here. You only went along with me to get it done apparently. Your recent actions speak louder than anything you can say now. Beam ( talk) 16:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Let me cite dab, he wrote: "what the hell? You just clamored for merging, and merging we did. If you want an article on the Republic of Kosovo, your position is splitting.", see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kosovo#Structure and I have to agree with him. You pretend being pro merging but you did the opposite. How would you call this behaviour? Not turncoat like, but? I am really curious about your pretext. -- Tubesship ( talk) 21:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
You're lying. He didn't say that in response to me. Why do you lie so blatantly? I'm sorry but you're acting crazy, but I hope not on purpose. Let's also read something from that very passage you lied about: No, you cannot get a single "Kosovo" article that is in fact about the "Republic of Kosovo". That's of course what you would like to happen, but that's something that needs to happen in the real world first (majority or universal recognition), and only then on Wikipedia. This article as it stands is about the Kosovo region as a whole. You are very devious, and perhaps dab was right to reprimand you repeatedly. I suggest you change your ways. Beam ( talk) 23:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- So you want to say that you were against merging all the time but we all misunderstood you? So everybody of us is crazy and you are the only sane? So it be, let us the reader make the decision about whom he believes, you or the rest of the world. -- Tubesship ( talk) 06:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
What are you talking about? You're not making any sense. Beam ( talk) 12:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- That is what you wrote: "Agreed, merge it. We have a consensus, do it now. Beam (talk) 01:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)", see at archive 17. So you pretended to be pro merge and then admin Ricky had to avoid your split. How comes? Do really all of us misunderstand you? Do you want to say this? -- Tubesship ( talk) 13:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Are you ok? Don't you get it? I have always said, and you have always agreed, to one article on Kosovo. This article is not supposed to focus on the RoK. The RoK is a new development. Why would it be the focus of an article on Kosovo? You're so biased it's ridiculous, you only agreed with me for a merge to push your own POV. It's gross. And why won't you admit you just lied within this section? You're a liar and a deceiver. Beam ( talk) 14:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Do you admit or deny that you were pro merging the article Republic of Kosovo and the article about Kosovo (geopolitical region) into the article Kosovo? So again, why did you try to create again an article named "Republic of Kosovo" after you were pro merging? Whom do you try to deceive? -- Tubesship ( talk) 14:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I have always been clear on exactly the best way to do this, and you agreed! And now you lie in this section and continue to ignore it. Are you that insane? Or are you just so evil and biased? As you said I have ALWAYS been for an article about Kosovo. Sorry Kosovo has not ALWAYS BEEN THE ROK. It's only been the RoK for months. And as I have always said the point of a Kosovo article is NOT for a ROK article. Sorry, crazy girl, you know I'm right. And apparently you only agreed with me to get a merged article to change it into an ROK article, and I've never agreed to that because that's retarded. So retarded. And regardless of your little commentary here and there you know you're wrong. I'll take an apology and a promise to stay the freak off my talk page now. Thanks! Beam ( talk) 15:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
And here you go Tube: The way I presented the Merge, and the way it gained consensus was NPOV. These people who deceived just to get a merge are so biased, it's scary. The right way to do this article is merged, about Kosovo. As I say repeatedly the RoK's several months does not need to dominate an article about the whole Kosovo. A merged article is the correct way to do it. Bias must not ruin it. NPOV will prevail. Beam (talk) 23:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
That's in Talk:Kosovo#To_Some_of_Those_who_stood_by_me_in_making_this_Merge_happen: go take up your lunacy there. Thanks. Beam ( talk) 15:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- For good luck there are admins like Ricky above, taking care of your sense of "reality" and your split pushings. And my gender as much as my ethnic background or my religion should be off topic, please. -- Tubesship ( talk) 15:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I never brought up your background or religion, stop spewing lies, do not return to my talk page, please. Goto that section of talk if you want to push your POV further. Beam ( talk) 15:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
How about emotional lying biased liar? Good enough? Beam ( talk) 18:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- You are talking about yourself, are not you? But you will not fool the admins like Ricky who already stopped you from split pushing and they will continue to do so. Just give it up. Nobody believes you. They know you better than you think. -- Tubesship ( talk) 23:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
lol, dab was right about you. I was blinded by your lies then, but now I see. Please, stop coming to my talk page or I will start to quote your lies from the Kosovo talk page, so for your own good, just stop. It's laughable. Beam ( talk) 23:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Stay off of my talk page please, you're not welcome. And I'd also appreciate it if you did not directly address me in any way. You disgust me. Thank you very much for your help in this matter. :) Beam ( talk) 01:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
The following are from Tube's talk page, which have been edited there because...well because Tube is trying to twist what happened. Maybe a week ago on the Kosovo Talk Page, he said he was leaving for a forum that he could spout rhetoric on, than he came back. I was asking why. I brought the convo to his talk page...here it is before he removed it. Beam 14:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
(begin copy from his text page)
(started by me)
As an aside, I thought you left and weren't coming back? I thought you found an Albanian Nationalist forum that you liked. What happened? Beam 19:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- It seems you want to be banned again as you continue your personal attacks. Keep on and they will ban you again, dear beam! --Tubesship (talk) 19:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Miss, I wasn't attacking you, I was honestly wondering. But, I'll bring it to your talk page. I'll make this edit so everyone can see, and then we can continue it there if you'd like. Oh, and if you continue to ask people to ban other editors who actually contribute, like me and Dab, it may end up that you get banned. Beam 19:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh and so you know, both times I was banned were found to be poor decisions by a wayward administrator. Beam 19:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
(nodent) If you don't want to tell me what happened to your forum, just delete this section. No hard feelings if you do. Regards, Beam 20:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
(this one subsequently started by him)
Miss... Beam 19:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Beam, keep your racist and sexual slander on your own talk page. I hereby officially ban you from my talk page. --Tubesship (talk) 21:56, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, no problem. But "Miss" doesn't have anything to do with being Albanian, it's actually a polite way to address a person in American English. Beam 23:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- I told you again and again that I am a man and not a woman and I am sick and tired of repeating myself. EOD. --Tubesship (talk) 00:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, I had forgotten I always think girl because you use "dear" and the such. My mistake. It still has nothing to do with racism or being Albanian. Beam 00:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- This does not change anything. And now please: EOD. --Tubesship (talk) 00:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, no problem. But "Miss" doesn't have anything to do with being Albanian, it's actually a polite way to address a person in American English. Beam 23:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
(end copy from his talk page) Beam 14:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Mr. Beamathan, I just realize that it is written in the article Kosovo: "Kosova" redirects here. For other uses, see Kosova (disambiguation). but that is not the case as when I type Kosova it does redirect me to " Kosova (disambiguation)". So I would appreciate your help, Sir. -- Tubesship ( talk) 07:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have thrown my support behind this in the talk:kosovo page. Beam ( talk) 11:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello Beamathan, contrary to a reached consensus there is a splitting going on instead a merging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kosovo#Split_completed And I would appreciate your assistance. Thank you! -- Tubesship ( talk) 05:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I could not tell you how much thankfulness I felt about your involvement in the article Kosova. It seemed that it was foremost your endeavour that saved this article from being abused by people with an obvious resentment against Albanians. So I wanted to thank you, dear Beam! But your trying to create a fork surprised me. Not in a good way. -- Tubesship ( talk) 03:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)BTW: I hope you do not change your mind about the Kosova case like many turncoats before as this forks seems to indicate this.
- Well, just so you know, I don't think it's helpful when you spout crap like "KOSOVO IS INDEPENDENT THIS IS A FACT, REPUBLIC OF KOSOVO IS KOSOVO." But hey, I do what I can. And it didn't work anyway. I had the article actually working, and then it was reverted, and I don't feel like an edit war. Beam ( talk) 21:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry Beam, but I think Ricky just prevented a POV fork. You should learn to accept that Kosova is not at all "crap". -- Tubesship ( talk) 10:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
You are a very manpipulative person Tube. When I was arguing for NPOV you were only hoping to be able to instill your personal POV. Look at all your "Thank you beam, dear" posts. They were all lies. I can't believe how quickly some people discard NPOV after it's been used to get rid of something they apparently were only interested in changing to their POV not NPOV. It's almost funny. Beam ( talk) 16:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Do not lose your sense of humor, you will need it, if you are really a turncoat as your pro merging, pro splitting moves indicates. Well, everybody is like he is, take it easy. -- Tubesship ( talk) 16:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC) BTW: You may rather call me naive as you obviously managed to fool me.
- I'm now officially disgusted. Fooled you? I am staying with the same argument I've had for weeks. Go look at the talk page. Go look at what you've said, and now look at what you're saying! How can you try telling me that I'm a "turncoat"? I fought for this merge harder than ANYONE here. You only went along with me to get it done apparently. Your recent actions speak louder than anything you can say now. Beam ( talk) 16:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- Let me cite dab, he wrote: "what the hell? You just clamored for merging, and merging we did. If you want an article on the Republic of Kosovo, your position is splitting.", see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kosovo#Structure and I have to agree with him. You pretend being pro merging but you did the opposite. How would you call this behaviour? Not turncoat like, but? I am really curious about your pretext. -- Tubesship ( talk) 21:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
You're lying. He didn't say that in response to me. Why do you lie so blatantly? I'm sorry but you're acting crazy, but I hope not on purpose. Let's also read something from that very passage you lied about: No, you cannot get a single "Kosovo" article that is in fact about the "Republic of Kosovo". That's of course what you would like to happen, but that's something that needs to happen in the real world first (majority or universal recognition), and only then on Wikipedia. This article as it stands is about the Kosovo region as a whole. You are very devious, and perhaps dab was right to reprimand you repeatedly. I suggest you change your ways. Beam ( talk) 23:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- So you want to say that you were against merging all the time but we all misunderstood you? So everybody of us is crazy and you are the only sane? So it be, let us the reader make the decision about whom he believes, you or the rest of the world. -- Tubesship ( talk) 06:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
What are you talking about? You're not making any sense. Beam ( talk) 12:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- That is what you wrote: "Agreed, merge it. We have a consensus, do it now. Beam (talk) 01:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)", see at archive 17. So you pretended to be pro merge and then admin Ricky had to avoid your split. How comes? Do really all of us misunderstand you? Do you want to say this? -- Tubesship ( talk) 13:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Are you ok? Don't you get it? I have always said, and you have always agreed, to one article on Kosovo. This article is not supposed to focus on the RoK. The RoK is a new development. Why would it be the focus of an article on Kosovo? You're so biased it's ridiculous, you only agreed with me for a merge to push your own POV. It's gross. And why won't you admit you just lied within this section? You're a liar and a deceiver. Beam ( talk) 14:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Do you admit or deny that you were pro merging the article Republic of Kosovo and the article about Kosovo (geopolitical region) into the article Kosovo? So again, why did you try to create again an article named "Republic of Kosovo" after you were pro merging? Whom do you try to deceive? -- Tubesship ( talk) 14:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I have always been clear on exactly the best way to do this, and you agreed! And now you lie in this section and continue to ignore it. Are you that insane? Or are you just so evil and biased? As you said I have ALWAYS been for an article about Kosovo. Sorry Kosovo has not ALWAYS BEEN THE ROK. It's only been the RoK for months. And as I have always said the point of a Kosovo article is NOT for a ROK article. Sorry, crazy girl, you know I'm right. And apparently you only agreed with me to get a merged article to change it into an ROK article, and I've never agreed to that because that's retarded. So retarded. And regardless of your little commentary here and there you know you're wrong. I'll take an apology and a promise to stay the freak off my talk page now. Thanks! Beam ( talk) 15:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
And here you go Tube: The way I presented the Merge, and the way it gained consensus was NPOV. These people who deceived just to get a merge are so biased, it's scary. The right way to do this article is merged, about Kosovo. As I say repeatedly the RoK's several months does not need to dominate an article about the whole Kosovo. A merged article is the correct way to do it. Bias must not ruin it. NPOV will prevail. Beam (talk) 23:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
That's in Talk:Kosovo#To_Some_of_Those_who_stood_by_me_in_making_this_Merge_happen: go take up your lunacy there. Thanks. Beam ( talk) 15:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- For good luck there are admins like Ricky above, taking care of your sense of "reality" and your split pushings. And my gender as much as my ethnic background or my religion should be off topic, please. -- Tubesship ( talk) 15:23, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I never brought up your background or religion, stop spewing lies, do not return to my talk page, please. Goto that section of talk if you want to push your POV further. Beam ( talk) 15:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
How about emotional lying biased liar? Good enough? Beam ( talk) 18:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- You are talking about yourself, are not you? But you will not fool the admins like Ricky who already stopped you from split pushing and they will continue to do so. Just give it up. Nobody believes you. They know you better than you think. -- Tubesship ( talk) 23:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
lol, dab was right about you. I was blinded by your lies then, but now I see. Please, stop coming to my talk page or I will start to quote your lies from the Kosovo talk page, so for your own good, just stop. It's laughable. Beam ( talk) 23:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Stay off of my talk page please, you're not welcome. And I'd also appreciate it if you did not directly address me in any way. You disgust me. Thank you very much for your help in this matter. :) Beam ( talk) 01:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
The following are from Tube's talk page, which have been edited there because...well because Tube is trying to twist what happened. Maybe a week ago on the Kosovo Talk Page, he said he was leaving for a forum that he could spout rhetoric on, than he came back. I was asking why. I brought the convo to his talk page...here it is before he removed it. Beam 14:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
(begin copy from his text page)
(started by me)
As an aside, I thought you left and weren't coming back? I thought you found an Albanian Nationalist forum that you liked. What happened? Beam 19:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- It seems you want to be banned again as you continue your personal attacks. Keep on and they will ban you again, dear beam! --Tubesship (talk) 19:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Miss, I wasn't attacking you, I was honestly wondering. But, I'll bring it to your talk page. I'll make this edit so everyone can see, and then we can continue it there if you'd like. Oh, and if you continue to ask people to ban other editors who actually contribute, like me and Dab, it may end up that you get banned. Beam 19:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh and so you know, both times I was banned were found to be poor decisions by a wayward administrator. Beam 19:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
(nodent) If you don't want to tell me what happened to your forum, just delete this section. No hard feelings if you do. Regards, Beam 20:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
(this one subsequently started by him)
Miss... Beam 19:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Beam, keep your racist and sexual slander on your own talk page. I hereby officially ban you from my talk page. --Tubesship (talk) 21:56, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, no problem. But "Miss" doesn't have anything to do with being Albanian, it's actually a polite way to address a person in American English. Beam 23:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- I told you again and again that I am a man and not a woman and I am sick and tired of repeating myself. EOD. --Tubesship (talk) 00:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, I had forgotten I always think girl because you use "dear" and the such. My mistake. It still has nothing to do with racism or being Albanian. Beam 00:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- This does not change anything. And now please: EOD. --Tubesship (talk) 00:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, no problem. But "Miss" doesn't have anything to do with being Albanian, it's actually a polite way to address a person in American English. Beam 23:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
(end copy from his talk page) Beam 14:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)