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Slow down! There's nothing wrong with adding so much, but wait until you've accumulated it, then add it. If you really want to renovate an article, start it on a subpage of your user account, then transfer it to the main article once it's complete. — The Man in Question (gesprec) · (forðung) 21:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bart! I did some reading to get to the bottom of whether to use "External links" or "References" for links like those found on the Lucy Hannah page, and this is what I came up with -- the style guideline on "external links" says in part:
Sites that have been used as sources in the creation of an article should be cited in the article, and linked as references, either in-line or in a references section. Links to these source sites are not "external links" for the purposes of this guideline, and should not be placed in an external links section.
The style guideline on citing sources says contrasts "general references ... that support a significant amount of material in the article" with "inline citations ... that provide source information for specific statements".
If I read these guidelines correctly, the Hannah article is aptly tagged for cleanup for lacking inline citations -- but the links which are provided do serve as general references, and therefore do not belong in the external links section. Does that make sense? -- Shunpiker ( talk) 04:46, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Even though I did most of the work, I couldn't help some of your edits to Lazare Ponticelli. I have requested a peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Lazare Ponticelli/archive1, in case you wish to comment. Hopefully we can improve it to GA status. Editor of the wiki 23:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
After a long series of warnings about your disruption, I finally warned you earlier in January that if you continued to insert your personal bias on the Ruby Muhammad page and violating the consensus discussed in the Request for Comment you would be blocked for one week. Then you continued, but still I and others tried to discuss it with you on your talk page and you were warned by myself and others to stop being disruptive on that page. I thought the message had finally gotten through, since you seemed to be greatly improving in your edits and I was very happy. But then, for no reason whatsoever, you do this in complete disregard for the fact that the consensus on the talk page is not to reference her possible age fib due to a lack of its publication in third-party, reliable sources.
I said that "I'm fine with changing her to longevity claim, if we apply the standard to EVERYONE who turns 110 until they are verified by an international body." Well, you didn't put her in one category or the other, just accused her of not being 111 (true or not is irrelevant thanks to WP:BLP) and you didn't do the same for Yakup Satar, whom you edited three minutes before. Therefore, because you have received a dozen warnings and yet continue to be disruptive and ignore consensus on the page, I am blocking you for 72 hours. I brought it down from my original warning of a week because I think you've done a lot of constructive work over the past week or so and you've been very respectful. But nothing excuses constant disruption after this many warnings from this many users. Cheers, CP 15:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
just the word "alleged" is not forbidden, is it, and, by the way, for all I know she could be dead: someone first changed the sentence mentioned into "she turned 111", but that isn't proven either, meaning her current status of living
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you were ignoring consensus, and thereby disruptive. In future, establish consensus on the talk page, and then make the article changes. — PhilKnight ( talk) 19:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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what consensus, for there is none?
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That question is not a reason why your block violated blocking policy and should be overturned. — Sandstein ( talk) 22:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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I was blocked by an administrator who is definitely already too much involved in the matter itself to have the right to block me
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Not sure if non-admins can make comments, but here goes:
Bart, you're making too many fallacies. Italicizing your text.
just the word "alleged" is not forbidden, is it,
and, by the way, for all I know she could be dead:
someone first changed the sentence mentioned into "she turned 111", but that isn't proven either, meaning her current status of living
By the way, Bart, as for your editing of my text, I understand English is not your fluent language, so you follow it in a very computer-like sense. When I say the number 2 (and not two), I did it on purpose. I type out numbers, then spell them for a very courtesy reason: which is more easier for you to read, three hundred fourty-seven or 347? And, as for my usage of commas, my intent in that wasn't to try to be grammatically correct, but to let the readers know when to pause. Anyways, this is your talk page, so...
This is the difference between editing someone's text where they "accidentally" made a mistake, or when it was their intent. I understand you do not feel the word "accidentally" deserves to have quotes around it, but removing it would be redundant (assuming I did it on purpose). Neal ( talk) 23:07, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Consider this another in a long string of warnings about editing other people's talk page comments, which I believe you have been blocked for several times in the past, even beyond the dozens of warnings you've received from others. Also, in this case, you didn't even edit it properly since correct English would never say that he has "the Italian nationality". You've already done it twice in the hour that you have been back. Please, be respectful of the talk page guidelines from now on. Cheers, CP 16:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Apparently, you haven't gotten it. How many times do you have to be warned and blocked regarding talk page guidelines? You've been asked not be disruptive in this fashion innumerable times. This disruption is too much.
Bart, grow a brain. The Katherine Plunket is a European case. When BrownHairedGirl worked hard on un-stubbing it, she changed the Month N, Year format to N Month Year format. I accidentally made a mistake of putting it in the U.S. format, and fixed it. Matter fact, everywhere in the article did it use the N Month Year format, not Month N, Year. I see you already reverted to my edits twice without providing any explanation. If you revert back to the U.S. format again, I'll be sure to let BrownHairedGirl know, and I betcha you won't want her on your case.
Matter fact, the article itself also belongs to WikiProject: Ireland, and looking at several of her articles (preferably her grandfather), they all follow the N Month Year format. I don't think WikiProject: Ireland would approve of your U.S edits either.
By the way, you're not from the U.S. either, so why use the U.S. format? I know the Gerontology Research Group says "December 15" for the day Delina Filkins died, so I don't think it violates a policy for changing it to 15 December, eh? Neal ( talk) 17:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
About this WikiProject. Editor of the wiki 19:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
See this. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok hi I replied to you in my talk page. Neal ( talk) 14:53, 6 April 2008 (UTC).
Just two comments:
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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lazare Ponticelli. Editor of the wiki 01:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in what I wrote here. 125.162.163.120 ( talk) 03:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey Bart, in just 5 more days, Edna Parker may reach 115! Wow! We haven't had a verified 115 year-old since January 2007. This will be exciting! Neal ( talk) 17:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC).
How do you justify this edit or this one when you have been blocked and warned countless times for editing others comments and being warned how disruptive it is? Cheers, CP 17:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Also, I would note that I'm not "stalking" you. WP:STALK has a full definition but, most importantly, "stalking" refers to the act of following an editor to another article to continue disruption and proper use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing errors or violations of Wikipedia policy. As a user with an extensive history of disruption on talk pages, it is reasonable to keep an eye on your edits, particularly the ones on talk pages. I am not attempting to continue disruption, but stop it. Cheers, CP 19:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
You have been warned plenty of times and been blocked for a week just last month for exactly the same thing, even though you said then you'd got it and immediately went back on your word. Above you say it won't happen again, but why would I believe you now when you've made the same promise at least twice before and forgotten it. Your promises now carry no weight and you need to have some time off to reflect on our policies. Spend the time reading WP:TPG for a start. Your block logs here and at the Dutch Wikipedia are a disgrace and its time you started to show some respect to the rest of the community by following our policies rather than thumbing your nose at us.
You do not change other peoples edits. Minor spelling and grammatical errors should be left as you find them. — Moondyne click! 01:52, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, here's the deal Bart. Once this current block expires, you may return to normal editing, However, the very next time you revert another persons talk page edits you will be immediately blocked for 3 months. No warnings will be given. This condition will stand for 12 months. If this is not clear then please let me know. Your behaviour just takes too much time and energy away from people who respect this project and it is my belief that your absence won't be a large loss. I hope that you can start to play by the rules. Moondyne 06:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
A request for comment has been initiated at Talk:List of the verified oldest people. As you have been involved in the issue, you may wish to comment there. Cheers, CP 00:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I know you didn't write this. I would've asked Young, since he wrote it, but since he is blocked and his talk page is protected, I'll ask you. How do you know that if 128 males live to 115, it is certain that one of them will beat Jeanne Calment? Interactive Fiction Expert/ Talk to me 06:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
The odds of Emiliano catching Jeanne Calment are about 1 in
128...meaning given 128 115-year-old males, there would be an even chance of one making it to 122.45 years old. → R Young {yakłtalk} 12:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
It says one needs 128 115-year-old males to get EVEN odds of catching
Jeanne Calment...NOT that someone WOULD catch Jeanne Calment.
Also, Inflict Action Expert (or whatever) should set up a Wiki e-mail
system. I can still receive e-mails.
Sincerely Robert Young
Bart, you have done so much on Wikipedia, you should nominate yourself for adminship. WP:Rfa is the page to go to do so. Just start your adminship with Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bart Versieck, add to the top of the RfA page, and see how well your request goes. You should also tell Young to do exactly this once he gets unblocked. Interactive Fiction Expert/ Talk to me 06:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Well Bart, you were warned after your last block that any more editing of people's comments on talk pages and you would be blocked for three months without a warning, something you stated that you clearly understood. This and especially this are unacceptable. I will now be instituting the block that Moondyne recommended.
I have reduced your block to three weeks, as I and several other admins feel three months was too harsh. However, I have reviewed your contributions, and what I see is a user who thus far has made no effort whatsoever to change his behavior despite numerous warnings and blocks. Consider this your final administrative warning. If there's a next time for such behavior, the next block will be much, much longer--and possibly indefinite. Blueboy 96 18:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for your message but I'm a bit confused by receiving a message from 'Extremely sexy'. Are you now editing under the name Bart Versieck? I tried to find your edits under 'Extremely sexy' . . . . Which articles were you referring to? Opera singer categorization is explained here. About 1400 articles are categorized this way. Thanks. -- Klein zach 03:18, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
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You can appeal the block by adding {{unblock|your reason here}} below. And the reason you are blocked is because of editing others' comments. Please stop doing so - I don't want to see you blocked indefinitely. Interactive Fiction Expert/ Talk to me 11:53, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
This and this put you on very shaky ground. While it can be argued that these were mere formatting changes (the only reason I didn't block you), you should really be more careful about how you edit talk pages. I say again--even one blatant violation of WP:TPG, and an indef is coming your way. Blueboy 96 12:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bart - intrigued to know why you removed Trampolining category from Nissen's entry. You reverted my addition without explanation and I feel it merits that since Nissen was (still is) clearly a major influence in the modern sport as we know it today. I'll watch this page for any response you have. DaveK@BTC ( talk) 08:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
This block is the matter of a discussion at WP:AN#Bart Versieck. You may wish to review the comments before posting an unblock request. LessHeard vanU ( talk) 14:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Bart Versieck ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I have a very big problem indeed, because my computer's browser at home doesn't accept cookies anymore since a couple of days (hence my anonymous contributions yesterday evening, which have been deleted afterwards, and now I'm at my job's), but I honestly don't understand at all why I have been blocked this time around (no harm done): could you explain, please, for that so-called "violation" has just been a justified deletion, and one that has been restored by someone else, by the way, so I'm definitely going to appeal this block, plus, moreover, an eternal ban is absolutely out of proportion. Extremely sexy ( talk) 08:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Decline reason:
As long as a community ban is being considered, it would probably not be a good idea to unblock you and the consensus there is that some sort of long-term block is warranted. — Daniel Case ( talk) 14:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
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unblock|Mr.Z-man has restored my own edit, which has been considered as being a justified one, so my ban is definitely utterly unjustified}}
Wrong. If that's the day he may have become the OLP, then Grace Clawson, Christina Cock, Adelina Domingues, Germaine Haye, Mae Harrington, and Mary Parr are not validated. 124.180.35.187 ( talk) 05:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Bart, there is no need to pipe World War II into the Second World War when "World War II" is the title of the article. It's a complete waste. Furthermore, trying to sneak it back in without explanation after I reverted it is not good faith and certainly not conducive to the spirit of Wikipedia discussion and consensus. Finally, it is extremely misleading and disingenuous to provide an automatic edit summary of "reverting edit blah blah blah", then perform a whole bunch of editing that is completely unrelated within the same edit (unless you also add in the edit summary that you are doing it). Your entire editing behavior, not just your actions on talk pages, are being watched, and shenanigans such as these are not very conducive to promoting your good faith contributions to this encyclopedia after so many warnings. Cheers, CP 19:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Here is the link to the picture as you requested. I contacted Jeff Wheeler about it but I only asked for permission on Wikipedia. I decided not to contact him for free use. If you wish to contact him about the picture be my guest. -- Npnunda ( talk) 23:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Bart, try reading some policies. WP:LEAD clearly states "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article." Seeing as how it went through a good article review that noted that the introduction was good, it should remain there. Also, you have already twice broken your promise not to touch other's talk page edits for any reason, and I have brought it up here with another administrator to discuss the appropriate course of action. Cheers, CP 19:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
And yet you didn't ask him about this. Should I tell LHvU or will you? Cheers, CP 19:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, of course I was going to be watching your talkpage. If you needed to have changed the time/date you should have asked the editor concerned to clarify it, or asked someone else to place a comment, such as <small> (original comment placed at XX:XX on YYY and later signed as here.) </small>, under it. Please just sit out this block, BV, so you will remember better what it is that you must not do. Try to ensure that there is no "next time" LessHeard vanU ( talk) 19:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Lucy, you've got some 'splainin' to do. Am I mistaken in thinking that the agreement was that you wouldn't touch anyone else's comments for any reason? Cheers, CP 18:01, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
You have not answered the concerns of 3 editors above, so I have blocked you from editing while you consider your response. You will note that this block is longer than the previous one, and the next one will be longer still. This cycle of "violation/block" will increase until either you stop editing other contributors comments, or you are blocked permanently from the encyclopedia. Had you responded to the above it is possible that there would have been no block, although I cannot guarantee this would have been the case, but since you responded to subsequent comments on your page I have assumed you are unwilling to reply to the concerns raised. It was on this basis that I decided to reblock you. LessHeard vanU ( talk) 12:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Bart Versieck ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
See above
Decline reason:
After reading your talk page, it seems like you really don't understand what you did was wrong; besides, your unblock reason isn't very clear nor does it address the problem. — Jauerback dude?/ dude. 15:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
Well: "LessHeard vanU" should be dealing with this, and he specifically stated that he probably wouldn't have blocked me if I had responded to them, and furthermore he assumed that I was unwilling to answer them since he thought that I had responded to others on my talkpage at that time, which is incorrect, because I wasn't online and the subsequent headings are from weeks ago.
Decline reason:
Declining unblock to remove you from the category and will leave a message on LHvU's talk page. – xeno ( talk) 16:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
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Please stop undoing my edits on this article. All i'm doing is adding perfectly sensible internal links to snooker player articles. Thank you. Samasnookerfan ( talk) 19:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Bart, I was coming here to get you to explain this, which I figured was pushing it given your circumstances. Then I saw your edit summary and figured that your incivility is reason enough to have you blocked. "I was angry" is not acceptable and is certainly not an excuse for incivility and a personal attack in the edit summary explaining your incivility. You've been a contributor here long enough to know that that behavior is not welcome here. I sat back merely pointed out the infractions when you were editing talk pages again, but I won't stand for this much incivility from an experienced editor. If LHVU or xeno want to discuss or modify the block, they're welcome to, but I believe that, given all the incivility and person attacks pointed out by xeno, this action is justified. Cheers, CP 18:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
I wasn't uncivil at all, and I have just returned to edit to have you blocking me as a MODERATOR WHO IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED, which is AGAINST ALL RULES: you are ABUSING YOUR OWN POWER
Decline reason:
I've had your talk page on my watchlist since I declined your last request. The only reason that I didn't block you was because CP beat me to it. — Jauerback dude?/ dude. 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
And your so-called reason for blocking me is non existant, let alone that you state why you decline it: you are just a good mate of Paul's and also too much involved
Decline reason:
For the sake of actually following procedures: I was reviewing the original unblock request, but Jauerback beat me to the decline. I would decline the request as well. B.V.: you have been blocked a great many times and your incivility has been a continuing problem. After all this time I'm surprised you haven't actually served a longer block like this before now. When you get back, engage in actual civil behavior, do not modify the comments of others for any reason, and we can all let this drop. Mango juice talk 18:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
An "administrator" attacked me himself and then blocked me for so-called "personal attacks", while referring to another editor in an earlier dispute, for which I already had been blocked
Decline reason:
I won't unblock you, but I will give you some friendly advice. You seem to be on a path that I've seen before, and I know how your path often ends. Users who just cannot learn to talk politely to other people find themselves blocked for longer and longer periods of time. This is sad for those who just never learned good manners, and who don't understand why their way of talking to other people doesn't work on a project that depends on everyone working together peacefully. The ones who can't gracefully accept correction, who can't resist blaming other people when they are in the wrong or when they're blocked, they usually hang on for a little while, as the community hopes that they will learn better manners and be useful to the project. Eventually, though, the community loses patience with them, and they are indefinitely blocked. The reason is simple math: if the amount of trouble and unhappiness you cause is greater than the amount of improvement to the encyclopedia you create, then eventually, consensus decides that you are no longer worth the effort. This hasn't happened to you yet, but that's the direction you appear to be headed in. Whether you learn better manners and become a credit to the project, or whether you keep being mean to people and eventually get indefinitely blocked, is entirely up to you, and I don't care much either way- but your talk page is now on the watchlist of every admin who has declined your unblock request, so you can expect to get blocked a lot faster the next time there's a similar problem. — FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 19:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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I want to note for the record that the message I left at User talk:Jauerback was the first time I have ever contacted this user in any way, and my offer there is valid - I will not block Bart anymore (but I will bring violations to light) for anything, no matter how blatant, so long as this talk page has a few neutral admins watching it. I would also like to see some diffs that make me the "king of personal attacks" please, ones from after I became an admin since I admitted to any that I made prior to that during my RfA. Cheers, CP 18:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
From a review of your circumstances and your talk page, it appears that you are under very specific (and relatively minor) restrictions on your conduct. You cannot edit talk pages in a manner that alters in any way the contributions of others. Seems simple. Yet I see repeated violations here, and I do not see an acknowledgement that your conduct is problematic. Accusing admins of bias does not address your conduct in any way, nor does it give a neutral admin any reason whatsoever to consider an unblock. I also note that several admins, despite your history, have gone to bat repeatedly for you, and I must assume that the number of people willing (and able) to defend your actions is dwindling. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 18:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Bart Versieck ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Request for my mentor to unblock me again
Decline reason:
Procedural decline only, will leave a message for LHvU to come over here when he gets on. – xeno ( talk) 20:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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← Well, its best not to be uncivil, either way. Type it up, preview it, then if it seems uncivil, discard the changes - maybe that will help. – xeno ( talk) 20:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, this is the deal; I will unblock you, Bart, because as the aggrieved party Canadian Paul should not have blocked you (and as far as that is concerned, that is the end of that matter). I will then reblock you for 1 week for editing CP's post in exactly the same manner which earned you a 3 hour block earlier this month, and then block you for a further week for the language and insults you handed out for what would have been a legit block other than the conflict of interest issue. That equals a 2 week block.
Or
You sit out this block. You contemplate what, "No altering (including adding to, or undeleting) of other peoples comments under any circumstances" means. You contemplate also that while I am stating here and now I shall block you for a month for the next transgression, there is growing consensus to block you indefinitely if there is a next time.
I'm an admin, Bart, and at the end of the day I enact the communities wishes (according to the rules and policies). You wish to remain editing and I have tried to help you, as a member of the community, to find a way to do that. If a larger percentage of the community want you not to edit and have good reasons for requesting that then I cannot and will not stop them, for I have no remit to do so.
I don't think you need 2 weeks to figure out your likely (non)future if you continue in this vein, so I suggest you complete the weeks block and stay the fuck out of fucking with other peoples comments - cos otherwise it is a long or indefinite block.
LessHeard vanU (
talk) 21:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I am aware that editing this page is for admins only and this message may be construed as an abuse of power - if so, I welcome any administrator to remove this comment if they wish. I would, however, like to apologize for the conflict of interest that was created over this incident - I had only recused myself from blocks regarding the talk page editing when I should have recused myself from all blocks to Bart Versieck, something that I will do because I now feel that this page is being watched by enough neutral admins that I don't have to worry about his behavior going unnoticed. So I do apologize to Bart and the community for any misuse, either real or apparent, of the administrative tools. Cheers, CP 22:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bart - noting you have just tidied up this article, I'm interested in your thoughts on the merits of the inclusion of the Weald Park Golf Course (which was a small part of your tidy-up). This is only one of some 12 or more in the Borough of Brentwood and not necessarily the closest to the town (which would be the municipal one in King Georges Playing Fields) and so I was wondering if it is really worth mentioning specifically - it seemed a little bit spammy but I was unsure whether to remove it or not... DaveK@BTC ( talk) 14:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
The guidance in the Manual of Style on what shouldn't be linked has recently been clarified. The relevant bits are at WP:CONTEXT#What generally should not be linked and WP:CONTEXT#Dates.
“ | The names of geographical locations that are likely to be well-known to English-speakers should generally not be linked where, in the context, they are unlikely to be confused with other locations of the same name, and the linked article would not specifically add to readers' understanding of the topic at hand. | ” |
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Wikilinking dates provides a small benefit to a small proportion of readers but is at best useless and at worst a distraction for the vast majority, so when I'm making some other change to an article, I'm also de-linking dates and also unlinking familiar concepts such as the major countries and cities of the world. Colonies Chris ( talk) 15:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Unless the policy has changed, I'd like to note that indefinitely blocked and banned users are not allowed a voice or an opinion on this project, that's why they were blocked/banned. Giving them one, as you did for the indef. blocked Robert Young here, can land you in the same type of trouble, so a friendly recommendation (since I can't/won't do anything to you for it) is to not do it. Robert Young, as with all users in his position, have had their editing privileges revoked and, as such, do not get a say on Wikipedia. It's one of the reasons it takes so much to indef. block or ban users is because the consequences are so harsh. Cheers, CP 22:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
You might want to see the message I left for LHvU. Consider it very carefully before you reply. Cheers, CP 23:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Well... while these might (and I emphasize "might") be legitimate edits for other users, can you explain how these four edits from today do not fall under the scope of your agreement not to edit anyone's posts for any reason? #1 is pointless at best, and a silly reason to test the water. #2 was blatant and pointless removal of content someone added in an (ill-formated) attempt to identify themselves, which is inexcusable as far as I'm concerned. #3 and #4 are steps in one edit to a remove a comment that, while pointless, is not really vandalism (and weren't you supposed to alert another editor if you wanted vandalism removed)? As I mentioned to LHvU, if there was another incident, no matter small, I would go an appropriate venue and make a full and detailed report of your behavior since you were last put before the community. Three incidents in one day, at least one of which is not a "borderline" case is more than enough for me to do that. I am, however, willing to hear a defense. Cheers, CP 03:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry that I missed the thread at AN/I before it was archived (its a place I mostly manage to avoid) and have just seen this discussion. I wish to add my name into supporting a 3 month block on Bart's account. Bart, you've wasted too much time of too many good people who apparently need to look over your shoulder constantly. Your smug remarks and wikilawyering here just reinforce my opinion that you will continue to disrupt the project and that a block is the only means we have left of stopping that. If LHVU or any other admin wishes to apply the block, it has my support. Moondyne 15:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Bart, you act like you've never been told this before. Jauerback dude?/ dude. 20:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Behave now, Bart! No talk-page editing! Ryoung122 01:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
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See Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Bart Versieck. Per WP:BLOCK, I could reset your block from today for block evasion. I won't, but be assured that any more attempts at avoiding this will result in an extension. Moondyne 08:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Bart, we know that you want to be a rebel, but that is not going to take you anywhere on Wikipedia. Creating the user Flemishboy ( talk · contribs) is invading your current block or ban, and that is not tolerated here on Wikipedia according to WP:Sock. Also removing other peoples comments on talk pages is not allowed too as you did here and saying that you don't as you did here is a lie. Since you have been editing Wikipedia since July 2005 you know darn well what you are doing. You are a hard working Wikipedian by looking at your contributions. But like every game there is rules, and we all must follow them. Here on Wikipedia we have rules and every user including administrators must follow those rules. It is nothing personal Bart. Rules are there for a reason. Have a nice day. Regards. 209.129.33.248 ( talk) 03:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Your time is almost expired Bart. Be a good editor. Ok? 209.129.34.11 ( talk) 04:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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Bart, your account is now unblocked to allow you to rejoin the project and participate in the above FAR should you wish to. Good luck. – Moondyne 13:15, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
After more than a year gone, it's nice to see you back on the battlefield. Ryoung122 08:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
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I have undone your additions to this article for the reasons stated in my edit summary. I have not done this on the basis of vandalism but due to original research and synthesis and because the changes are questionable (common names in register of soldiers do not prove that a later claimant was the same person; no birth dates or other connecting information). Also, they are contrary to the sources shown in the references which are based on research and investigation. One instance shows how unlikely these changes are. If Walter Washington was born on the date he claimed, he would have been older than the oldest man ever verified to have lived. If I had not left this special message, you would have received no notification unless you were watching the article. I think that would have been unfair to you. I do not want to engage in any sort of edit war over this so if you wish to carry this on, we can refer it to the Military History Committee or some other previously uninvolved editor or editors. Donner60 ( talk) 03:28, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Bart. Are we really going to go down this road again after almost a decade? You know exactly where it leads. You know from previous discussions that there's a very specific meaning to the term reliable sources and that it has nothing to do with primary sources. In fact, census results constitute original research because they need to be interpreted within a broader context, and census takers are just as (if not more) likely to make mistakes than published sources. Even if census results were acceptable, you would still have to integrate the findings into the prose of the article - a question mark tells an uninformed reader absolutely nothing.
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I erronously logged in with another account instead of this one, definitely not in order to evade a block, since I wasn't blocked at all before: this is a legitimate account over here, so please, unblock it!
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I haven't got any other account- correct me if I'm wrong), it would have to be something like "AQK", "SQLK" or "SWL", and not "CinnamonGuy1" for example. It would be a stretch for it to have the same password, but I suppose perhaps both accounts could have the most common password possible in common. Bbb23 - Are you able to elaborate on how the accounts were used abusively? SQL Query me! 02:51, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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@ Bart Versieck: bestaat er een reden voor waarom je deze pagina niet archiveert? Het is nogal verwarrend. Wat betreft die andere "blokkades", kan je daar ook een extendedconfirmed aanvragen? Ik bedoel maar, er zijn gebruikers en gebruikers... :-) Lotje ( talk) 09:55, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Bart! I did some reading to get to the bottom of whether to use "External links" or "References" for links like those found on the Lucy Hannah page, and this is what I came up with -- the style guideline on "external links" says in part:
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The style guideline on citing sources says contrasts "general references ... that support a significant amount of material in the article" with "inline citations ... that provide source information for specific statements".
If I read these guidelines correctly, the Hannah article is aptly tagged for cleanup for lacking inline citations -- but the links which are provided do serve as general references, and therefore do not belong in the external links section. Does that make sense? -- Shunpiker ( talk) 04:46, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Even though I did most of the work, I couldn't help some of your edits to Lazare Ponticelli. I have requested a peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Lazare Ponticelli/archive1, in case you wish to comment. Hopefully we can improve it to GA status. Editor of the wiki 23:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
After a long series of warnings about your disruption, I finally warned you earlier in January that if you continued to insert your personal bias on the Ruby Muhammad page and violating the consensus discussed in the Request for Comment you would be blocked for one week. Then you continued, but still I and others tried to discuss it with you on your talk page and you were warned by myself and others to stop being disruptive on that page. I thought the message had finally gotten through, since you seemed to be greatly improving in your edits and I was very happy. But then, for no reason whatsoever, you do this in complete disregard for the fact that the consensus on the talk page is not to reference her possible age fib due to a lack of its publication in third-party, reliable sources.
I said that "I'm fine with changing her to longevity claim, if we apply the standard to EVERYONE who turns 110 until they are verified by an international body." Well, you didn't put her in one category or the other, just accused her of not being 111 (true or not is irrelevant thanks to WP:BLP) and you didn't do the same for Yakup Satar, whom you edited three minutes before. Therefore, because you have received a dozen warnings and yet continue to be disruptive and ignore consensus on the page, I am blocking you for 72 hours. I brought it down from my original warning of a week because I think you've done a lot of constructive work over the past week or so and you've been very respectful. But nothing excuses constant disruption after this many warnings from this many users. Cheers, CP 15:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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just the word "alleged" is not forbidden, is it, and, by the way, for all I know she could be dead: someone first changed the sentence mentioned into "she turned 111", but that isn't proven either, meaning her current status of living
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what consensus, for there is none?
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I was blocked by an administrator who is definitely already too much involved in the matter itself to have the right to block me
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Not sure if non-admins can make comments, but here goes:
Bart, you're making too many fallacies. Italicizing your text.
just the word "alleged" is not forbidden, is it,
and, by the way, for all I know she could be dead:
someone first changed the sentence mentioned into "she turned 111", but that isn't proven either, meaning her current status of living
By the way, Bart, as for your editing of my text, I understand English is not your fluent language, so you follow it in a very computer-like sense. When I say the number 2 (and not two), I did it on purpose. I type out numbers, then spell them for a very courtesy reason: which is more easier for you to read, three hundred fourty-seven or 347? And, as for my usage of commas, my intent in that wasn't to try to be grammatically correct, but to let the readers know when to pause. Anyways, this is your talk page, so...
This is the difference between editing someone's text where they "accidentally" made a mistake, or when it was their intent. I understand you do not feel the word "accidentally" deserves to have quotes around it, but removing it would be redundant (assuming I did it on purpose). Neal ( talk) 23:07, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Consider this another in a long string of warnings about editing other people's talk page comments, which I believe you have been blocked for several times in the past, even beyond the dozens of warnings you've received from others. Also, in this case, you didn't even edit it properly since correct English would never say that he has "the Italian nationality". You've already done it twice in the hour that you have been back. Please, be respectful of the talk page guidelines from now on. Cheers, CP 16:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Apparently, you haven't gotten it. How many times do you have to be warned and blocked regarding talk page guidelines? You've been asked not be disruptive in this fashion innumerable times. This disruption is too much.
Bart, grow a brain. The Katherine Plunket is a European case. When BrownHairedGirl worked hard on un-stubbing it, she changed the Month N, Year format to N Month Year format. I accidentally made a mistake of putting it in the U.S. format, and fixed it. Matter fact, everywhere in the article did it use the N Month Year format, not Month N, Year. I see you already reverted to my edits twice without providing any explanation. If you revert back to the U.S. format again, I'll be sure to let BrownHairedGirl know, and I betcha you won't want her on your case.
Matter fact, the article itself also belongs to WikiProject: Ireland, and looking at several of her articles (preferably her grandfather), they all follow the N Month Year format. I don't think WikiProject: Ireland would approve of your U.S edits either.
By the way, you're not from the U.S. either, so why use the U.S. format? I know the Gerontology Research Group says "December 15" for the day Delina Filkins died, so I don't think it violates a policy for changing it to 15 December, eh? Neal ( talk) 17:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
About this WikiProject. Editor of the wiki 19:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
See this. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok hi I replied to you in my talk page. Neal ( talk) 14:53, 6 April 2008 (UTC).
Just two comments:
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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lazare Ponticelli. Editor of the wiki 01:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in what I wrote here. 125.162.163.120 ( talk) 03:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey Bart, in just 5 more days, Edna Parker may reach 115! Wow! We haven't had a verified 115 year-old since January 2007. This will be exciting! Neal ( talk) 17:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC).
How do you justify this edit or this one when you have been blocked and warned countless times for editing others comments and being warned how disruptive it is? Cheers, CP 17:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Also, I would note that I'm not "stalking" you. WP:STALK has a full definition but, most importantly, "stalking" refers to the act of following an editor to another article to continue disruption and proper use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing errors or violations of Wikipedia policy. As a user with an extensive history of disruption on talk pages, it is reasonable to keep an eye on your edits, particularly the ones on talk pages. I am not attempting to continue disruption, but stop it. Cheers, CP 19:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
You have been warned plenty of times and been blocked for a week just last month for exactly the same thing, even though you said then you'd got it and immediately went back on your word. Above you say it won't happen again, but why would I believe you now when you've made the same promise at least twice before and forgotten it. Your promises now carry no weight and you need to have some time off to reflect on our policies. Spend the time reading WP:TPG for a start. Your block logs here and at the Dutch Wikipedia are a disgrace and its time you started to show some respect to the rest of the community by following our policies rather than thumbing your nose at us.
You do not change other peoples edits. Minor spelling and grammatical errors should be left as you find them. — Moondyne click! 01:52, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, here's the deal Bart. Once this current block expires, you may return to normal editing, However, the very next time you revert another persons talk page edits you will be immediately blocked for 3 months. No warnings will be given. This condition will stand for 12 months. If this is not clear then please let me know. Your behaviour just takes too much time and energy away from people who respect this project and it is my belief that your absence won't be a large loss. I hope that you can start to play by the rules. Moondyne 06:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
A request for comment has been initiated at Talk:List of the verified oldest people. As you have been involved in the issue, you may wish to comment there. Cheers, CP 00:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I know you didn't write this. I would've asked Young, since he wrote it, but since he is blocked and his talk page is protected, I'll ask you. How do you know that if 128 males live to 115, it is certain that one of them will beat Jeanne Calment? Interactive Fiction Expert/ Talk to me 06:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
The odds of Emiliano catching Jeanne Calment are about 1 in
128...meaning given 128 115-year-old males, there would be an even chance of one making it to 122.45 years old. → R Young {yakłtalk} 12:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
It says one needs 128 115-year-old males to get EVEN odds of catching
Jeanne Calment...NOT that someone WOULD catch Jeanne Calment.
Also, Inflict Action Expert (or whatever) should set up a Wiki e-mail
system. I can still receive e-mails.
Sincerely Robert Young
Bart, you have done so much on Wikipedia, you should nominate yourself for adminship. WP:Rfa is the page to go to do so. Just start your adminship with Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Bart Versieck, add to the top of the RfA page, and see how well your request goes. You should also tell Young to do exactly this once he gets unblocked. Interactive Fiction Expert/ Talk to me 06:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Well Bart, you were warned after your last block that any more editing of people's comments on talk pages and you would be blocked for three months without a warning, something you stated that you clearly understood. This and especially this are unacceptable. I will now be instituting the block that Moondyne recommended.
I have reduced your block to three weeks, as I and several other admins feel three months was too harsh. However, I have reviewed your contributions, and what I see is a user who thus far has made no effort whatsoever to change his behavior despite numerous warnings and blocks. Consider this your final administrative warning. If there's a next time for such behavior, the next block will be much, much longer--and possibly indefinite. Blueboy 96 18:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for your message but I'm a bit confused by receiving a message from 'Extremely sexy'. Are you now editing under the name Bart Versieck? I tried to find your edits under 'Extremely sexy' . . . . Which articles were you referring to? Opera singer categorization is explained here. About 1400 articles are categorized this way. Thanks. -- Klein zach 03:18, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
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This and this put you on very shaky ground. While it can be argued that these were mere formatting changes (the only reason I didn't block you), you should really be more careful about how you edit talk pages. I say again--even one blatant violation of WP:TPG, and an indef is coming your way. Blueboy 96 12:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bart - intrigued to know why you removed Trampolining category from Nissen's entry. You reverted my addition without explanation and I feel it merits that since Nissen was (still is) clearly a major influence in the modern sport as we know it today. I'll watch this page for any response you have. DaveK@BTC ( talk) 08:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
This block is the matter of a discussion at WP:AN#Bart Versieck. You may wish to review the comments before posting an unblock request. LessHeard vanU ( talk) 14:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Bart Versieck ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I have a very big problem indeed, because my computer's browser at home doesn't accept cookies anymore since a couple of days (hence my anonymous contributions yesterday evening, which have been deleted afterwards, and now I'm at my job's), but I honestly don't understand at all why I have been blocked this time around (no harm done): could you explain, please, for that so-called "violation" has just been a justified deletion, and one that has been restored by someone else, by the way, so I'm definitely going to appeal this block, plus, moreover, an eternal ban is absolutely out of proportion. Extremely sexy ( talk) 08:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Decline reason:
As long as a community ban is being considered, it would probably not be a good idea to unblock you and the consensus there is that some sort of long-term block is warranted. — Daniel Case ( talk) 14:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
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unblock|Mr.Z-man has restored my own edit, which has been considered as being a justified one, so my ban is definitely utterly unjustified}}
Wrong. If that's the day he may have become the OLP, then Grace Clawson, Christina Cock, Adelina Domingues, Germaine Haye, Mae Harrington, and Mary Parr are not validated. 124.180.35.187 ( talk) 05:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Bart, there is no need to pipe World War II into the Second World War when "World War II" is the title of the article. It's a complete waste. Furthermore, trying to sneak it back in without explanation after I reverted it is not good faith and certainly not conducive to the spirit of Wikipedia discussion and consensus. Finally, it is extremely misleading and disingenuous to provide an automatic edit summary of "reverting edit blah blah blah", then perform a whole bunch of editing that is completely unrelated within the same edit (unless you also add in the edit summary that you are doing it). Your entire editing behavior, not just your actions on talk pages, are being watched, and shenanigans such as these are not very conducive to promoting your good faith contributions to this encyclopedia after so many warnings. Cheers, CP 19:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Here is the link to the picture as you requested. I contacted Jeff Wheeler about it but I only asked for permission on Wikipedia. I decided not to contact him for free use. If you wish to contact him about the picture be my guest. -- Npnunda ( talk) 23:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Bart, try reading some policies. WP:LEAD clearly states "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article." Seeing as how it went through a good article review that noted that the introduction was good, it should remain there. Also, you have already twice broken your promise not to touch other's talk page edits for any reason, and I have brought it up here with another administrator to discuss the appropriate course of action. Cheers, CP 19:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
And yet you didn't ask him about this. Should I tell LHvU or will you? Cheers, CP 19:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, of course I was going to be watching your talkpage. If you needed to have changed the time/date you should have asked the editor concerned to clarify it, or asked someone else to place a comment, such as <small> (original comment placed at XX:XX on YYY and later signed as here.) </small>, under it. Please just sit out this block, BV, so you will remember better what it is that you must not do. Try to ensure that there is no "next time" LessHeard vanU ( talk) 19:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Lucy, you've got some 'splainin' to do. Am I mistaken in thinking that the agreement was that you wouldn't touch anyone else's comments for any reason? Cheers, CP 18:01, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
You have not answered the concerns of 3 editors above, so I have blocked you from editing while you consider your response. You will note that this block is longer than the previous one, and the next one will be longer still. This cycle of "violation/block" will increase until either you stop editing other contributors comments, or you are blocked permanently from the encyclopedia. Had you responded to the above it is possible that there would have been no block, although I cannot guarantee this would have been the case, but since you responded to subsequent comments on your page I have assumed you are unwilling to reply to the concerns raised. It was on this basis that I decided to reblock you. LessHeard vanU ( talk) 12:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
See above
Decline reason:
After reading your talk page, it seems like you really don't understand what you did was wrong; besides, your unblock reason isn't very clear nor does it address the problem. — Jauerback dude?/ dude. 15:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
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Bart Versieck ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Well: "LessHeard vanU" should be dealing with this, and he specifically stated that he probably wouldn't have blocked me if I had responded to them, and furthermore he assumed that I was unwilling to answer them since he thought that I had responded to others on my talkpage at that time, which is incorrect, because I wasn't online and the subsequent headings are from weeks ago.
Decline reason:
Declining unblock to remove you from the category and will leave a message on LHvU's talk page. – xeno ( talk) 16:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
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Please stop undoing my edits on this article. All i'm doing is adding perfectly sensible internal links to snooker player articles. Thank you. Samasnookerfan ( talk) 19:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Bart, I was coming here to get you to explain this, which I figured was pushing it given your circumstances. Then I saw your edit summary and figured that your incivility is reason enough to have you blocked. "I was angry" is not acceptable and is certainly not an excuse for incivility and a personal attack in the edit summary explaining your incivility. You've been a contributor here long enough to know that that behavior is not welcome here. I sat back merely pointed out the infractions when you were editing talk pages again, but I won't stand for this much incivility from an experienced editor. If LHVU or xeno want to discuss or modify the block, they're welcome to, but I believe that, given all the incivility and person attacks pointed out by xeno, this action is justified. Cheers, CP 18:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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Request reason:
I wasn't uncivil at all, and I have just returned to edit to have you blocking me as a MODERATOR WHO IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED, which is AGAINST ALL RULES: you are ABUSING YOUR OWN POWER
Decline reason:
I've had your talk page on my watchlist since I declined your last request. The only reason that I didn't block you was because CP beat me to it. — Jauerback dude?/ dude. 18:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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Bart Versieck ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
And your so-called reason for blocking me is non existant, let alone that you state why you decline it: you are just a good mate of Paul's and also too much involved
Decline reason:
For the sake of actually following procedures: I was reviewing the original unblock request, but Jauerback beat me to the decline. I would decline the request as well. B.V.: you have been blocked a great many times and your incivility has been a continuing problem. After all this time I'm surprised you haven't actually served a longer block like this before now. When you get back, engage in actual civil behavior, do not modify the comments of others for any reason, and we can all let this drop. Mango juice talk 18:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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Bart Versieck ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
An "administrator" attacked me himself and then blocked me for so-called "personal attacks", while referring to another editor in an earlier dispute, for which I already had been blocked
Decline reason:
I won't unblock you, but I will give you some friendly advice. You seem to be on a path that I've seen before, and I know how your path often ends. Users who just cannot learn to talk politely to other people find themselves blocked for longer and longer periods of time. This is sad for those who just never learned good manners, and who don't understand why their way of talking to other people doesn't work on a project that depends on everyone working together peacefully. The ones who can't gracefully accept correction, who can't resist blaming other people when they are in the wrong or when they're blocked, they usually hang on for a little while, as the community hopes that they will learn better manners and be useful to the project. Eventually, though, the community loses patience with them, and they are indefinitely blocked. The reason is simple math: if the amount of trouble and unhappiness you cause is greater than the amount of improvement to the encyclopedia you create, then eventually, consensus decides that you are no longer worth the effort. This hasn't happened to you yet, but that's the direction you appear to be headed in. Whether you learn better manners and become a credit to the project, or whether you keep being mean to people and eventually get indefinitely blocked, is entirely up to you, and I don't care much either way- but your talk page is now on the watchlist of every admin who has declined your unblock request, so you can expect to get blocked a lot faster the next time there's a similar problem. — FisherQueen ( talk · contribs) 19:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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I want to note for the record that the message I left at User talk:Jauerback was the first time I have ever contacted this user in any way, and my offer there is valid - I will not block Bart anymore (but I will bring violations to light) for anything, no matter how blatant, so long as this talk page has a few neutral admins watching it. I would also like to see some diffs that make me the "king of personal attacks" please, ones from after I became an admin since I admitted to any that I made prior to that during my RfA. Cheers, CP 18:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
From a review of your circumstances and your talk page, it appears that you are under very specific (and relatively minor) restrictions on your conduct. You cannot edit talk pages in a manner that alters in any way the contributions of others. Seems simple. Yet I see repeated violations here, and I do not see an acknowledgement that your conduct is problematic. Accusing admins of bias does not address your conduct in any way, nor does it give a neutral admin any reason whatsoever to consider an unblock. I also note that several admins, despite your history, have gone to bat repeatedly for you, and I must assume that the number of people willing (and able) to defend your actions is dwindling. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 18:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Bart Versieck ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Request for my mentor to unblock me again
Decline reason:
Procedural decline only, will leave a message for LHvU to come over here when he gets on. – xeno ( talk) 20:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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← Well, its best not to be uncivil, either way. Type it up, preview it, then if it seems uncivil, discard the changes - maybe that will help. – xeno ( talk) 20:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, this is the deal; I will unblock you, Bart, because as the aggrieved party Canadian Paul should not have blocked you (and as far as that is concerned, that is the end of that matter). I will then reblock you for 1 week for editing CP's post in exactly the same manner which earned you a 3 hour block earlier this month, and then block you for a further week for the language and insults you handed out for what would have been a legit block other than the conflict of interest issue. That equals a 2 week block.
Or
You sit out this block. You contemplate what, "No altering (including adding to, or undeleting) of other peoples comments under any circumstances" means. You contemplate also that while I am stating here and now I shall block you for a month for the next transgression, there is growing consensus to block you indefinitely if there is a next time.
I'm an admin, Bart, and at the end of the day I enact the communities wishes (according to the rules and policies). You wish to remain editing and I have tried to help you, as a member of the community, to find a way to do that. If a larger percentage of the community want you not to edit and have good reasons for requesting that then I cannot and will not stop them, for I have no remit to do so.
I don't think you need 2 weeks to figure out your likely (non)future if you continue in this vein, so I suggest you complete the weeks block and stay the fuck out of fucking with other peoples comments - cos otherwise it is a long or indefinite block.
LessHeard vanU (
talk) 21:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I am aware that editing this page is for admins only and this message may be construed as an abuse of power - if so, I welcome any administrator to remove this comment if they wish. I would, however, like to apologize for the conflict of interest that was created over this incident - I had only recused myself from blocks regarding the talk page editing when I should have recused myself from all blocks to Bart Versieck, something that I will do because I now feel that this page is being watched by enough neutral admins that I don't have to worry about his behavior going unnoticed. So I do apologize to Bart and the community for any misuse, either real or apparent, of the administrative tools. Cheers, CP 22:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bart - noting you have just tidied up this article, I'm interested in your thoughts on the merits of the inclusion of the Weald Park Golf Course (which was a small part of your tidy-up). This is only one of some 12 or more in the Borough of Brentwood and not necessarily the closest to the town (which would be the municipal one in King Georges Playing Fields) and so I was wondering if it is really worth mentioning specifically - it seemed a little bit spammy but I was unsure whether to remove it or not... DaveK@BTC ( talk) 14:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
The guidance in the Manual of Style on what shouldn't be linked has recently been clarified. The relevant bits are at WP:CONTEXT#What generally should not be linked and WP:CONTEXT#Dates.
“ | The names of geographical locations that are likely to be well-known to English-speakers should generally not be linked where, in the context, they are unlikely to be confused with other locations of the same name, and the linked article would not specifically add to readers' understanding of the topic at hand. | ” |
“ | Dates that contain day, month and year or day and month may be linked using MediaWiki's date autoformatting mechanism. Careful consideration of the disadvantages and advantages of the autoformatting mechanism should be made before applying it: the mechanism does not work for the vast majority of readers, such as unregistered users and registered users who have not made a setting, and can affect readability and appearance if there are already numerous high-value links in the text. | ” |
Wikilinking dates provides a small benefit to a small proportion of readers but is at best useless and at worst a distraction for the vast majority, so when I'm making some other change to an article, I'm also de-linking dates and also unlinking familiar concepts such as the major countries and cities of the world. Colonies Chris ( talk) 15:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Unless the policy has changed, I'd like to note that indefinitely blocked and banned users are not allowed a voice or an opinion on this project, that's why they were blocked/banned. Giving them one, as you did for the indef. blocked Robert Young here, can land you in the same type of trouble, so a friendly recommendation (since I can't/won't do anything to you for it) is to not do it. Robert Young, as with all users in his position, have had their editing privileges revoked and, as such, do not get a say on Wikipedia. It's one of the reasons it takes so much to indef. block or ban users is because the consequences are so harsh. Cheers, CP 22:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
You might want to see the message I left for LHvU. Consider it very carefully before you reply. Cheers, CP 23:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Well... while these might (and I emphasize "might") be legitimate edits for other users, can you explain how these four edits from today do not fall under the scope of your agreement not to edit anyone's posts for any reason? #1 is pointless at best, and a silly reason to test the water. #2 was blatant and pointless removal of content someone added in an (ill-formated) attempt to identify themselves, which is inexcusable as far as I'm concerned. #3 and #4 are steps in one edit to a remove a comment that, while pointless, is not really vandalism (and weren't you supposed to alert another editor if you wanted vandalism removed)? As I mentioned to LHvU, if there was another incident, no matter small, I would go an appropriate venue and make a full and detailed report of your behavior since you were last put before the community. Three incidents in one day, at least one of which is not a "borderline" case is more than enough for me to do that. I am, however, willing to hear a defense. Cheers, CP 03:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry that I missed the thread at AN/I before it was archived (its a place I mostly manage to avoid) and have just seen this discussion. I wish to add my name into supporting a 3 month block on Bart's account. Bart, you've wasted too much time of too many good people who apparently need to look over your shoulder constantly. Your smug remarks and wikilawyering here just reinforce my opinion that you will continue to disrupt the project and that a block is the only means we have left of stopping that. If LHVU or any other admin wishes to apply the block, it has my support. Moondyne 15:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Bart, you act like you've never been told this before. Jauerback dude?/ dude. 20:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Behave now, Bart! No talk-page editing! Ryoung122 01:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
You have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 3 months as a result of your disruptive edits. You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our policies concerning neutral point of view and biographies of living persons will not be tolerated. Block is applied per consensus at AN/I and this talk page. Moondyne 00:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Bart Versieck. Per WP:BLOCK, I could reset your block from today for block evasion. I won't, but be assured that any more attempts at avoiding this will result in an extension. Moondyne 08:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Bart, we know that you want to be a rebel, but that is not going to take you anywhere on Wikipedia. Creating the user Flemishboy ( talk · contribs) is invading your current block or ban, and that is not tolerated here on Wikipedia according to WP:Sock. Also removing other peoples comments on talk pages is not allowed too as you did here and saying that you don't as you did here is a lie. Since you have been editing Wikipedia since July 2005 you know darn well what you are doing. You are a hard working Wikipedian by looking at your contributions. But like every game there is rules, and we all must follow them. Here on Wikipedia we have rules and every user including administrators must follow those rules. It is nothing personal Bart. Rules are there for a reason. Have a nice day. Regards. 209.129.33.248 ( talk) 03:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Your time is almost expired Bart. Be a good editor. Ok? 209.129.34.11 ( talk) 04:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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Bart, your account is now unblocked to allow you to rejoin the project and participate in the above FAR should you wish to. Good luck. – Moondyne 13:15, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
After more than a year gone, it's nice to see you back on the battlefield. Ryoung122 08:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
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I have undone your additions to this article for the reasons stated in my edit summary. I have not done this on the basis of vandalism but due to original research and synthesis and because the changes are questionable (common names in register of soldiers do not prove that a later claimant was the same person; no birth dates or other connecting information). Also, they are contrary to the sources shown in the references which are based on research and investigation. One instance shows how unlikely these changes are. If Walter Washington was born on the date he claimed, he would have been older than the oldest man ever verified to have lived. If I had not left this special message, you would have received no notification unless you were watching the article. I think that would have been unfair to you. I do not want to engage in any sort of edit war over this so if you wish to carry this on, we can refer it to the Military History Committee or some other previously uninvolved editor or editors. Donner60 ( talk) 03:28, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi Bart. Are we really going to go down this road again after almost a decade? You know exactly where it leads. You know from previous discussions that there's a very specific meaning to the term reliable sources and that it has nothing to do with primary sources. In fact, census results constitute original research because they need to be interpreted within a broader context, and census takers are just as (if not more) likely to make mistakes than published sources. Even if census results were acceptable, you would still have to integrate the findings into the prose of the article - a question mark tells an uninformed reader absolutely nothing.
I know that you have the potential to make positive contributions to longevity articles, which we would very much welcome. But in order to do that, you have to move beyond your behavior from the past, abide by Wikipedia's policies, and accept the fact that you can't always get your way, because verifiability trumps truth. You have already technically broke the one-revert rule on the Matthews article, but rather than take you to arbitration enforcement, I want to use this as an opportunity to extend a hand and encourage you to join us in collaboration to make longevity articles better. Work with the community. Discuss when matters are contentious rather than reverting. Collaborate on articles to make them better. I don't want this to read as a warning as a threat, I want you to read it as me welcoming you back after a long absence and hoping that we can work better together than we have in the past. Let me know what you think. Canadian Paul 16:22, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
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@ Bart Versieck: bestaat er een reden voor waarom je deze pagina niet archiveert? Het is nogal verwarrend. Wat betreft die andere "blokkades", kan je daar ook een extendedconfirmed aanvragen? Ik bedoel maar, er zijn gebruikers en gebruikers... :-) Lotje ( talk) 09:55, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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