You reverted my edit which tidied up the article and deleted unsourced content. As you did not explain your move I reverted it again.
You’re right, the sentence about the young Italian players is back in. But there is still much unsourced content like “with the lowest budget in the Slovak Basketball League“, “In his first year as a head coach in the EasyCredit BBL, Roijakkers was voted 2nd in the Coach of the Year election behind Saša Obradović. He kept [[BG Göttingen with one of the lowest budgets every season in the EasyCredit BBL.“, “In the
Basketball Champions League he is still the only coach undefeated in the first group stage (6-0) and he set the record for most made 3s in a single game (21 made 3s on 58% vs Casademont Zaragoza, 23/03/2021, 117 - 76“. Please respect the need to give reliable sources. And please don’t delete sourced content like you did ("On April 14, 2022, Pallacanestro Varese fired him for actions "not in line with the club's values“) and please don’t revert complete edits if you want to change only a part the article. Thank you. --
Zamekrizeni (
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15:32, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I made this page very nice with a ton more sources. You can focus on the German, not a problem, my German is not as good as your ofcourse. But I can do this English one very well !
B1958B (
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15:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Everything in there is spot on and with sources. You don't have to change it back again. You can do the German page, I will focus on this English one and other basketball pages in English. I will stay away from the German once that you all reverted today.
B1958B (
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16:11, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I disagree. As I showed earlier there are important sources missing in that article. And that has nothing to do with a German wikipedia article on the same person. As long as you are adding unsourced content it will be reverted, not necessarily by myself. If you don't respect the wikipedia rules on reliable sources or others you may be blocked from editing.
Zamekrizeni (
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16:21, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I have added more sources than you did on the German one, so I don't see the problem. You keep adding also a false source at the end.
B1958B (
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16:44, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Again, the English version of the article has nothing to do with a version in another language which may exist. Which is the "false source", please, and why is it false?
Zamekrizeni (
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16:51, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The source you add about the release of Roijakkers. As you can read in my last source, the release from the coach had to be taken back and was solved in a friendly way between the parties. Decided by Italian court/arbitration. All in the last source.
B1958B (
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16:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But that does not mean that is a false source as you put it. And that does not change the fact that the club initially took that decision as it is stated in the press release. So it should be included in the article to show the development of that case which then ended in an agreement between the club and the coach. As a consequence, it is absolutely justified to include both press releases and sources, about the initial decision of the club and the settlement.
Zamekrizeni (
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17:06, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But I still don't understand why you changed the name of the league for example. German Bundesliga is called EasyCredit BBL
B1958B (
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17:27, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Also what I had before: 'where he won right away the national title with the lowest budget in the Slovakian ExtraLiga' Is all named in the Slovakian article !
B1958B (
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17:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
No, it is not in the Slovakian article, I went through it. Please show where it is written then. Mentioning that somebody has been featured in a newspaper article (La Gazzetta dello Sport) is trivial and in my opinion not worth mentioning in an wikipedia article. So you are trying to tell me now that you kept reverting the article because I used BBL instead of the sponsor's name. In German media it is common to leave out the sponsor's name, so that's ok.
Zamekrizeni (
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17:37, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Than I will add the Italian article just as a source, without special mention.
If you have comments to make on the German version, please leave them on the respective talk page in the German wikipedia. Here it's about the English version
Zamekrizeni (
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17:55, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But you all delete them there :) That's what you did today with all the changes I made on all those pages. No clue what your problem was there.
B1958B (
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17:58, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
i may ask that you both keep this strictly to the English Wikipedia. they do things different in the German wiki and we would like to not be involved.
Tdshe/her18:03, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
"But you all delete them there :) That's what you did today with all the changes I made on all those pages. No clue what your problem was there.": Well, you can look up the explanation in the history of each and every article.
Zamekrizeni (
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18:03, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
You have been blocked from editing Johan Roijakkers for a period of one week for violating the
3 revert rule. You two need to resolve the dispute on the article talk page. If at an impasse, use a
dispute resolution request, like an
WP:RFC or
WP:RSN (
WP:DRNnot recommended). But you two cannot continue to flood the revision history by violating the 3RR bright line
edit warring rule (by quite a bit as it happens). Ping me here if you have any question concerning this partial block (not on my talk page, please). Thank you. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to
make useful contributions.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the
guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.
El_C18:20, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oke I am sorry. I am basketball specialist, I work in this field as a pro. So I believe I know a lot about European, and specially about German / Dutch / Belgium basketball.
B1958B (
talk)
18:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
B1958B, you can still edit the article talk page, just not the main article for a week. So please use that time wisely by following the suggestions and links I provided. You can also try for a
3rd opinion, to at least get a sense of what single uninvolved reviewer thinks. Good luck.
El_C18:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
You reverted my edit which tidied up the article and deleted unsourced content. As you did not explain your move I reverted it again.
You’re right, the sentence about the young Italian players is back in. But there is still much unsourced content like “with the lowest budget in the Slovak Basketball League“, “In his first year as a head coach in the EasyCredit BBL, Roijakkers was voted 2nd in the Coach of the Year election behind Saša Obradović. He kept [[BG Göttingen with one of the lowest budgets every season in the EasyCredit BBL.“, “In the
Basketball Champions League he is still the only coach undefeated in the first group stage (6-0) and he set the record for most made 3s in a single game (21 made 3s on 58% vs Casademont Zaragoza, 23/03/2021, 117 - 76“. Please respect the need to give reliable sources. And please don’t delete sourced content like you did ("On April 14, 2022, Pallacanestro Varese fired him for actions "not in line with the club's values“) and please don’t revert complete edits if you want to change only a part the article. Thank you. --
Zamekrizeni (
talk)
15:32, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I made this page very nice with a ton more sources. You can focus on the German, not a problem, my German is not as good as your ofcourse. But I can do this English one very well !
B1958B (
talk)
15:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Everything in there is spot on and with sources. You don't have to change it back again. You can do the German page, I will focus on this English one and other basketball pages in English. I will stay away from the German once that you all reverted today.
B1958B (
talk)
16:11, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I disagree. As I showed earlier there are important sources missing in that article. And that has nothing to do with a German wikipedia article on the same person. As long as you are adding unsourced content it will be reverted, not necessarily by myself. If you don't respect the wikipedia rules on reliable sources or others you may be blocked from editing.
Zamekrizeni (
talk)
16:21, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I have added more sources than you did on the German one, so I don't see the problem. You keep adding also a false source at the end.
B1958B (
talk)
16:44, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Again, the English version of the article has nothing to do with a version in another language which may exist. Which is the "false source", please, and why is it false?
Zamekrizeni (
talk)
16:51, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The source you add about the release of Roijakkers. As you can read in my last source, the release from the coach had to be taken back and was solved in a friendly way between the parties. Decided by Italian court/arbitration. All in the last source.
B1958B (
talk)
16:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But that does not mean that is a false source as you put it. And that does not change the fact that the club initially took that decision as it is stated in the press release. So it should be included in the article to show the development of that case which then ended in an agreement between the club and the coach. As a consequence, it is absolutely justified to include both press releases and sources, about the initial decision of the club and the settlement.
Zamekrizeni (
talk)
17:06, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But I still don't understand why you changed the name of the league for example. German Bundesliga is called EasyCredit BBL
B1958B (
talk)
17:27, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Also what I had before: 'where he won right away the national title with the lowest budget in the Slovakian ExtraLiga' Is all named in the Slovakian article !
B1958B (
talk)
17:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
No, it is not in the Slovakian article, I went through it. Please show where it is written then. Mentioning that somebody has been featured in a newspaper article (La Gazzetta dello Sport) is trivial and in my opinion not worth mentioning in an wikipedia article. So you are trying to tell me now that you kept reverting the article because I used BBL instead of the sponsor's name. In German media it is common to leave out the sponsor's name, so that's ok.
Zamekrizeni (
talk)
17:37, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Than I will add the Italian article just as a source, without special mention.
If you have comments to make on the German version, please leave them on the respective talk page in the German wikipedia. Here it's about the English version
Zamekrizeni (
talk)
17:55, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But you all delete them there :) That's what you did today with all the changes I made on all those pages. No clue what your problem was there.
B1958B (
talk)
17:58, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
i may ask that you both keep this strictly to the English Wikipedia. they do things different in the German wiki and we would like to not be involved.
Tdshe/her18:03, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
"But you all delete them there :) That's what you did today with all the changes I made on all those pages. No clue what your problem was there.": Well, you can look up the explanation in the history of each and every article.
Zamekrizeni (
talk)
18:03, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
You have been blocked from editing Johan Roijakkers for a period of one week for violating the
3 revert rule. You two need to resolve the dispute on the article talk page. If at an impasse, use a
dispute resolution request, like an
WP:RFC or
WP:RSN (
WP:DRNnot recommended). But you two cannot continue to flood the revision history by violating the 3RR bright line
edit warring rule (by quite a bit as it happens). Ping me here if you have any question concerning this partial block (not on my talk page, please). Thank you. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to
make useful contributions.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the
guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.
El_C18:20, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oke I am sorry. I am basketball specialist, I work in this field as a pro. So I believe I know a lot about European, and specially about German / Dutch / Belgium basketball.
B1958B (
talk)
18:28, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply
B1958B, you can still edit the article talk page, just not the main article for a week. So please use that time wisely by following the suggestions and links I provided. You can also try for a
3rd opinion, to at least get a sense of what single uninvolved reviewer thinks. Good luck.
El_C18:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)reply