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Happy editing! I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 03:10, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
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17:27, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Awater01 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I restored the page to its original version when the other user instigated an edit war himself. But he reported me and now I'm banned? This is really absurd. I was even the one who went to the talk page. Awater01 ( talk) 18:09, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Restoring the article to its original version can still be edit warring, and it is possible to edit war, and post on the talk page. You do not address your incivility. I think an unblock should be possible in this case, but you need to accept you were edit warring, and you were uncivil. PhilKnight ( talk) 19:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Bans and blocks are not the same; this is a block. Blocks can be created with an automatic expiry date, especially if there are reasons to believe that similar behavior will not continue after the date. Where such reasons are not obvious, an indefinite block can be helpful to ensure that a proper unblock request is made first. Such a request should demonstrate an understanding of what led to the block and why it was disruptive. It should also explain why others can be sure that the behavior won't continue in the future. Ideally, it should additionally describe which helpful contributions are currently prevented by the block, as specific as possible.
Regarding "not capable of having a sensible discussion on the TP", in an unblock discussion about a civility-related block, I'm afraid the block duration was a fine choice and there is currently no reason to believe it should be reduced.
The block is about your behavior, not others' behavior. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 18:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Awater01 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
It was certainly not my intention to edit war, only to bring the article back to its original state. If that's edit warring, then fine, I won't do it again. With regard to being uncivil, I'm sorry, but the user simply had nothing sensible to say and was edit warring himself. Sure, I didn't react very nice, but neither was he (e.g. he started insulting me by calling me a nationalist). However, if my responses are not allowed, then I obviously won't do it again. Awater01 ( talk) 19:55, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Saying "if this was wrong, I won't do it again" is analogous to "if I offended you, I apologize". Either you think what you did was wrong or you don't. Only you can control your actions. If others are acting inappropriately towards you, you shouldn't fight fire with fire, you should use proper procedures and remain civil. I'm not convinced that your actions won't recur, and for that reason I am declining your request. 331dot ( talk) 20:25, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Awater01 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
What do I need to say more? I explained my opinions and actions and yes, I believe that what I did was wrong and I won't do it again. What more do you want to hear? I usually give the arguments based upon sources, I did that here as well, unfortunately these responses weren't read. What can I do more? I mean, I need to explain how I resolve editing disputes? By giving objective scientific sources, like I always do. How else? Awater01 ( talk) 21:28, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
At three unproductive unblock requests we sometimes revoke talk page access. I'm not doing that right now because good faith tells me there might yet be the possibility that you will understand what is being asked of you. But if you decide to make another unblock request and it's just like these other ones, I would strongly recommend to that reviewing admin that your talk page access be revoked. — Daniel Case ( talk) 06:39, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Block evasion usually doesn't work. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 14:44, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Awater01! I noticed your contributions and wanted to welcome you to the Wikipedia community. I hope you like it here and decide to stay.
As you get started, you may find this short tutorial helpful:
Alternatively, the contributing to Wikipedia page covers the same topics.
If you have any questions, we have a friendly space where experienced editors can help you here:
If you are not sure where to help out, you can find a task here:
Happy editing! I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 03:10, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
.
~ ToBeFree (
talk)
17:27, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Awater01 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I restored the page to its original version when the other user instigated an edit war himself. But he reported me and now I'm banned? This is really absurd. I was even the one who went to the talk page. Awater01 ( talk) 18:09, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Restoring the article to its original version can still be edit warring, and it is possible to edit war, and post on the talk page. You do not address your incivility. I think an unblock should be possible in this case, but you need to accept you were edit warring, and you were uncivil. PhilKnight ( talk) 19:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Bans and blocks are not the same; this is a block. Blocks can be created with an automatic expiry date, especially if there are reasons to believe that similar behavior will not continue after the date. Where such reasons are not obvious, an indefinite block can be helpful to ensure that a proper unblock request is made first. Such a request should demonstrate an understanding of what led to the block and why it was disruptive. It should also explain why others can be sure that the behavior won't continue in the future. Ideally, it should additionally describe which helpful contributions are currently prevented by the block, as specific as possible.
Regarding "not capable of having a sensible discussion on the TP", in an unblock discussion about a civility-related block, I'm afraid the block duration was a fine choice and there is currently no reason to believe it should be reduced.
The block is about your behavior, not others' behavior. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 18:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Awater01 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
It was certainly not my intention to edit war, only to bring the article back to its original state. If that's edit warring, then fine, I won't do it again. With regard to being uncivil, I'm sorry, but the user simply had nothing sensible to say and was edit warring himself. Sure, I didn't react very nice, but neither was he (e.g. he started insulting me by calling me a nationalist). However, if my responses are not allowed, then I obviously won't do it again. Awater01 ( talk) 19:55, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Saying "if this was wrong, I won't do it again" is analogous to "if I offended you, I apologize". Either you think what you did was wrong or you don't. Only you can control your actions. If others are acting inappropriately towards you, you shouldn't fight fire with fire, you should use proper procedures and remain civil. I'm not convinced that your actions won't recur, and for that reason I am declining your request. 331dot ( talk) 20:25, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Awater01 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
What do I need to say more? I explained my opinions and actions and yes, I believe that what I did was wrong and I won't do it again. What more do you want to hear? I usually give the arguments based upon sources, I did that here as well, unfortunately these responses weren't read. What can I do more? I mean, I need to explain how I resolve editing disputes? By giving objective scientific sources, like I always do. How else? Awater01 ( talk) 21:28, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
At three unproductive unblock requests we sometimes revoke talk page access. I'm not doing that right now because good faith tells me there might yet be the possibility that you will understand what is being asked of you. But if you decide to make another unblock request and it's just like these other ones, I would strongly recommend to that reviewing admin that your talk page access be revoked. — Daniel Case ( talk) 06:39, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Block evasion usually doesn't work. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 14:44, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
( block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))