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Could you please revert your move of Joachim to Joachim {Saint). There was no discussion to make this move. In fact, it looks like the consensus at the AfD was to restore Joachim to the version before TenaciousT started adding Star Trek info. The disambig page IS helpful, I will admit, but it should be a link at the top of Joachim. The article Joachim has for a long time been about the Christian figure, and he is the most notable individual to go by that name, so there is nothing wrong with giving him the Joachim article, as long as the disambig link sits at the top. I do not have admin access, so I cannot revert your changes myself. I hope you understand. If you feel that the disambig article should be the top level article, maybe we can discuss that, but please do not go against what editors suggested be restored at the AfD. Thanks for your consideration.- Andrew c 22:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I forgot to re-reply when you left the last comment. You would already be chayav skiloh, Both CRTs and LCDs only run on electricity. SO, you would be mecholel shabbos if you did. -- Shaul avrom 02:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Mets.
Can you please explain why you [Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views. reverted] my removal of an off-topic diatribe/platform from the above talk page? Per WP:TALK:
Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views.
— WP:TALK
.
I think that the anonymous IP's comments had almost nothingto do with the article itself, and was merely an outburst of their own, rather distinct, point of view. I'd be glad to hear your opinion on the matter. Thanks! -- Avi 16:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I never said it was a fraternity. I was just filling out the template. -- evrik ( talk) 20:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Apart from denying the overwhelming evidence supporting the Mecca-Medina-Jesurlalsm sturcyture, and ignroing basic facrs about the whole "Third holiest site" article and treating Muslims like total idiots by certain users - I'd like to remind you have that the point was not to get rid of the ranking structure, but to incorporate them into an article with a similar structure like "Air is colourless, howevver some poeple believe air is blue" ... And if you got rid of any xth holiest site statement about masjid al aqsa and/or medina , why not remove all the others too.
thestick
16:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about this but im having a stabbing headache and sore eyes for some reaosn.
I feel better now.
Alright, since this problem has been excavated again by User:Chesdovi. The historical evidence, common sense and general knowledge support the Mecca-Medina-Jerusalem "holiness" structure. It's ridiculous and frustrating to see that all the 'sources' are ignored and Muslims are treated like idiots that don't know a thing about the religion by some people behaving like cranks and behave as if they have false consensus syndrome. The point of the article was not to get rid of the ranking, but to put incorporate all the listed "third holiest sites" into a general article.
Al-Aqsa Mosque being the third holiest in Islam is a an established fact, the others are just opinions, misconceptions or just - mistakes. Why should a site be 'third holiest' just because some Capt. E said so? Just to satisfy somebody's agenda? Shorely some mistake and you must know better. thestick 17:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Template:Messianic Judaism. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. inigmatus 17:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Avraham, I thank you for being so concerned about the quality of the MJ article, seeing your recent involvement. You have addressed several issues in the talk page. For the past few days, I have been working on a clean-up of the article that addresses many of your issues with weasel words/redundancy and such, adds some new sections, and some pictures. It'll be posted in a few days. Please hold off until then. Noogster 00:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you know about the new userbox I created, {{User Phi Beta Kappa}}. (Surprised there wasn't one before.) -- Lukobe 10:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I apologize for deleting that text. It actually was not intentional, even if it looked like it was. My apologies -Woodstock
Now that I look back on the old discussions for template: Messianic Judaism, I see that here at: [1] Inigmatus had made a case-by-case explanation for why each and every one of the links in the template was relevant and factually tenable. No one was really able to provide a decent rebuttal to his assertions about the link list. With that in mind, why do we need to go over this for a second or third time, when such an argument has already been decided by a landslide? We COULD repeat such a discussion again, just to be safe, but the genuine honesty of this whole situation seems to be on its last legs. Shabbat shalom. Noogster 23:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you allow me to update the Messianic Judaism's related information? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ju98 5 ( talk • contribs) 00:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC).
I read the copyright tag provisions of Wikipedia and everything appears to be mere technical jargon for me. It is so difficult to understand the copyright tag provisions because of so many caveats here and there,k even for someone like me who teaches college and has published four books each with a copyright under US intellectual property laws.
What I would like you to do is to supply me immediately with a format that I could use and where I could just plug in the information you need for all the images in Pi Gamma Mu that you have a problem with. Thank you. Profdrmendoza 15:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
What have I done incorrectly? Frankly, it would be rather rude of you to revert hours of my work just in passing. Please tack your newer citations back on and make it more NPOV, to my new cleanup. Noogster 16:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I chose to keep it this time but it's worth discussing. Noogster 00:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I notice that Israel's largest newspaper doesn't seem to have its own Wikipedia article. Perhaps if you have the time or resources you would like to help get an article for this newspaper on its legs or at least as a stub? Noogster 22:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I've a feeling that I may have missed something. In this edit were you cleaning up after another editor? I'm just puzzled as to how it got into the article in the first place, and wondering if I've been half asleep. :-| Jakew 22:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! — Malik Shabazz | Talk 04:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for getting a lot of the article summarized and cleaned up a bit more. I am really happy with its state now.
I guess the Rabbi Yeshua website is really strange; they refer to him as Rabbi (which obviously makes him simultaneously Pharasaic), the website looks and acts Pharasaic, and there is a Talmud quote on the margins of every other page, yet another article turns around and says the opposite.
And the attempted re-create of the template, I must say, is total garbage. Add only things that have to do with Messianic Judaism? Everything on Inigmatus' version of the template had to do with Messianic Judaism. I can't believe people are trying to do this without Inigmatus' say on the matter. Noogster 22:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I assert that I am the same as commons:user:Avraham on Commons. -- Avi 17:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
re: this http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Yehuda_Ashlag&diff=109823796&oldid=109819423
Wrong town.
Parysów http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parys%C3%B3w vs. Pruszków http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruszk%C3%B3w
For example try this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=%28+%D7%A4%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%91+OR+%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%91%29++AND+%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%92
Here is some more english citations:
http://www.jewishgen.org/rabbinic/journal/hasidic2_appendix.htm Yehuda Arye Leib Ashlag 1886-1954 of Parysow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yehuda_Ashlag In the same article further down - Admor from Pursov
etc
http://www.netzarim.co.il/Museum/Sukkah10/Sukkah10.htm#bio-ybd
How feasible do you think it is to make a Wikipedia biographical article of this guy? He made official aliyah to Israel (letter from chief Ashkenazi Rabbi and all) and apparently very accepted in the Orthodox Jewish community, and perhaps a thousand people may claim affiliation with his group, but it seems very difficult to find reliable sources.
He also sees to have his own Torah feed on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Netzarim
Noogster 03:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I'll be interested to know if the link stays stable; if so I'll have to start putting them in my cites. I am now aware, thanks to you, of the newish isbn= field and that I should be using the pg. or pp. abbreviations for pages= . -- Kendrick7 talk 20:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of unassessed articles tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! -- Ozgod 20:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I've created a new article for Avruhom Yehida Balser. Tell me what you think and add to it if possible! Noogster 22:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I've shortened up the intro of the article Messianic Judaism (it was still a bit too long). It still has several questionable citations, ranging from people remarkably ignorant of MJ (ie. thinking that Jews for Jesus is affiliated with it or represents it) to those remarkably ignorant of Jewish law (ie. believe that Messianic Jews somehow magically cease to be ethnic Jews). Please comment. Thanks. Noogster 22:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you have a look at Circumcision policies of various countries? While it was too quote-heavy as part of the main article, it served a function of sorts. On its own it isn't an article but more a kind of scrapbook. It doesn't quite fit CSD G12, unfortunately, though it is pretty close. What are your thoughts? Could it be rescued, or should it be nominated for AfD? Thanks, Jakew 17:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Avi, could you please comment on whether Yechi should be merged into Controversies of Chabad-Lubavitch at Talk:Yechi#Merge to Controversies of Chabad-Lubavitch. Thanks, Shlomke 00:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
What do you think about my new article, Anshei Sfard? Noogster 01:07, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
That section is actually easy to read now. Jakew 21:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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Just because you are an ACAS doesn't make you G-d. It is not nad never is objective science. I've never never heard a chemist call himself an chemical scientist, but a political scientist is not and never a scientist. Actuarial science my lord! hmmpf Chivista 22:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC) Think about that before make a snide comment!
I am not just going back to my original formulation, but trying to iterate it to meet your objections. This is being done in good faith.
The general issue is this: I am a mainstream Jew; I am not a messianic Jew; I have no sympathy for messianic Jews religiously. But it really is silly to suggest that their belief is anything less than a standard trinitarian effort to worship one God in three persons. Just quoting one odd description, without any qualification, is odd and misleading.
If we were talking about Mormons, for example, the issue would be very different. P.D. 22:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I am not trying to censor the source. Adding a qualification that a characterization is "in the words of" an author is not censorship. P.D. 22:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I saw the article AfD pop up in recent changes. I always believed there was an article about a very notable guitarist by that name but when I looked at the page it had been hacked. Tracing back through the article edit history I found where the original article content was lost(early December) and restored it to the version prior to the vandalism. Just thought I'd let you know as you, very justly, tagged the "as is" version for AfD. Have a nice day! 156.34.142.110 18:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
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Could you please revert your move of Joachim to Joachim {Saint). There was no discussion to make this move. In fact, it looks like the consensus at the AfD was to restore Joachim to the version before TenaciousT started adding Star Trek info. The disambig page IS helpful, I will admit, but it should be a link at the top of Joachim. The article Joachim has for a long time been about the Christian figure, and he is the most notable individual to go by that name, so there is nothing wrong with giving him the Joachim article, as long as the disambig link sits at the top. I do not have admin access, so I cannot revert your changes myself. I hope you understand. If you feel that the disambig article should be the top level article, maybe we can discuss that, but please do not go against what editors suggested be restored at the AfD. Thanks for your consideration.- Andrew c 22:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I forgot to re-reply when you left the last comment. You would already be chayav skiloh, Both CRTs and LCDs only run on electricity. SO, you would be mecholel shabbos if you did. -- Shaul avrom 02:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Mets.
Can you please explain why you [Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views. reverted] my removal of an off-topic diatribe/platform from the above talk page? Per WP:TALK:
Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views.
— WP:TALK
.
I think that the anonymous IP's comments had almost nothingto do with the article itself, and was merely an outburst of their own, rather distinct, point of view. I'd be glad to hear your opinion on the matter. Thanks! -- Avi 16:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I never said it was a fraternity. I was just filling out the template. -- evrik ( talk) 20:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Apart from denying the overwhelming evidence supporting the Mecca-Medina-Jesurlalsm sturcyture, and ignroing basic facrs about the whole "Third holiest site" article and treating Muslims like total idiots by certain users - I'd like to remind you have that the point was not to get rid of the ranking structure, but to incorporate them into an article with a similar structure like "Air is colourless, howevver some poeple believe air is blue" ... And if you got rid of any xth holiest site statement about masjid al aqsa and/or medina , why not remove all the others too.
thestick
16:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about this but im having a stabbing headache and sore eyes for some reaosn.
I feel better now.
Alright, since this problem has been excavated again by User:Chesdovi. The historical evidence, common sense and general knowledge support the Mecca-Medina-Jerusalem "holiness" structure. It's ridiculous and frustrating to see that all the 'sources' are ignored and Muslims are treated like idiots that don't know a thing about the religion by some people behaving like cranks and behave as if they have false consensus syndrome. The point of the article was not to get rid of the ranking, but to put incorporate all the listed "third holiest sites" into a general article.
Al-Aqsa Mosque being the third holiest in Islam is a an established fact, the others are just opinions, misconceptions or just - mistakes. Why should a site be 'third holiest' just because some Capt. E said so? Just to satisfy somebody's agenda? Shorely some mistake and you must know better. thestick 17:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Template:Messianic Judaism. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. inigmatus 17:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Avraham, I thank you for being so concerned about the quality of the MJ article, seeing your recent involvement. You have addressed several issues in the talk page. For the past few days, I have been working on a clean-up of the article that addresses many of your issues with weasel words/redundancy and such, adds some new sections, and some pictures. It'll be posted in a few days. Please hold off until then. Noogster 00:24, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you know about the new userbox I created, {{User Phi Beta Kappa}}. (Surprised there wasn't one before.) -- Lukobe 10:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
I apologize for deleting that text. It actually was not intentional, even if it looked like it was. My apologies -Woodstock
Now that I look back on the old discussions for template: Messianic Judaism, I see that here at: [1] Inigmatus had made a case-by-case explanation for why each and every one of the links in the template was relevant and factually tenable. No one was really able to provide a decent rebuttal to his assertions about the link list. With that in mind, why do we need to go over this for a second or third time, when such an argument has already been decided by a landslide? We COULD repeat such a discussion again, just to be safe, but the genuine honesty of this whole situation seems to be on its last legs. Shabbat shalom. Noogster 23:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Why don't you allow me to update the Messianic Judaism's related information? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ju98 5 ( talk • contribs) 00:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC).
I read the copyright tag provisions of Wikipedia and everything appears to be mere technical jargon for me. It is so difficult to understand the copyright tag provisions because of so many caveats here and there,k even for someone like me who teaches college and has published four books each with a copyright under US intellectual property laws.
What I would like you to do is to supply me immediately with a format that I could use and where I could just plug in the information you need for all the images in Pi Gamma Mu that you have a problem with. Thank you. Profdrmendoza 15:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
What have I done incorrectly? Frankly, it would be rather rude of you to revert hours of my work just in passing. Please tack your newer citations back on and make it more NPOV, to my new cleanup. Noogster 16:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I chose to keep it this time but it's worth discussing. Noogster 00:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I notice that Israel's largest newspaper doesn't seem to have its own Wikipedia article. Perhaps if you have the time or resources you would like to help get an article for this newspaper on its legs or at least as a stub? Noogster 22:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I've a feeling that I may have missed something. In this edit were you cleaning up after another editor? I'm just puzzled as to how it got into the article in the first place, and wondering if I've been half asleep. :-| Jakew 22:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! — Malik Shabazz | Talk 04:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for getting a lot of the article summarized and cleaned up a bit more. I am really happy with its state now.
I guess the Rabbi Yeshua website is really strange; they refer to him as Rabbi (which obviously makes him simultaneously Pharasaic), the website looks and acts Pharasaic, and there is a Talmud quote on the margins of every other page, yet another article turns around and says the opposite.
And the attempted re-create of the template, I must say, is total garbage. Add only things that have to do with Messianic Judaism? Everything on Inigmatus' version of the template had to do with Messianic Judaism. I can't believe people are trying to do this without Inigmatus' say on the matter. Noogster 22:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I assert that I am the same as commons:user:Avraham on Commons. -- Avi 17:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
re: this http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Yehuda_Ashlag&diff=109823796&oldid=109819423
Wrong town.
Parysów http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parys%C3%B3w vs. Pruszków http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruszk%C3%B3w
For example try this: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all&q=%28+%D7%A4%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%91+OR+%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%91%29++AND+%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%92
Here is some more english citations:
http://www.jewishgen.org/rabbinic/journal/hasidic2_appendix.htm Yehuda Arye Leib Ashlag 1886-1954 of Parysow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yehuda_Ashlag In the same article further down - Admor from Pursov
etc
http://www.netzarim.co.il/Museum/Sukkah10/Sukkah10.htm#bio-ybd
How feasible do you think it is to make a Wikipedia biographical article of this guy? He made official aliyah to Israel (letter from chief Ashkenazi Rabbi and all) and apparently very accepted in the Orthodox Jewish community, and perhaps a thousand people may claim affiliation with his group, but it seems very difficult to find reliable sources.
He also sees to have his own Torah feed on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Netzarim
Noogster 03:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I'll be interested to know if the link stays stable; if so I'll have to start putting them in my cites. I am now aware, thanks to you, of the newish isbn= field and that I should be using the pg. or pp. abbreviations for pages= . -- Kendrick7 talk 20:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of unassessed articles tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! -- Ozgod 20:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I've created a new article for Avruhom Yehida Balser. Tell me what you think and add to it if possible! Noogster 22:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I've shortened up the intro of the article Messianic Judaism (it was still a bit too long). It still has several questionable citations, ranging from people remarkably ignorant of MJ (ie. thinking that Jews for Jesus is affiliated with it or represents it) to those remarkably ignorant of Jewish law (ie. believe that Messianic Jews somehow magically cease to be ethnic Jews). Please comment. Thanks. Noogster 22:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Could you have a look at Circumcision policies of various countries? While it was too quote-heavy as part of the main article, it served a function of sorts. On its own it isn't an article but more a kind of scrapbook. It doesn't quite fit CSD G12, unfortunately, though it is pretty close. What are your thoughts? Could it be rescued, or should it be nominated for AfD? Thanks, Jakew 17:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Avi, could you please comment on whether Yechi should be merged into Controversies of Chabad-Lubavitch at Talk:Yechi#Merge to Controversies of Chabad-Lubavitch. Thanks, Shlomke 00:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
What do you think about my new article, Anshei Sfard? Noogster 01:07, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
That section is actually easy to read now. Jakew 21:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
The March 2007 issue of the Biography WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Mocko13 22:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Just because you are an ACAS doesn't make you G-d. It is not nad never is objective science. I've never never heard a chemist call himself an chemical scientist, but a political scientist is not and never a scientist. Actuarial science my lord! hmmpf Chivista 22:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC) Think about that before make a snide comment!
I am not just going back to my original formulation, but trying to iterate it to meet your objections. This is being done in good faith.
The general issue is this: I am a mainstream Jew; I am not a messianic Jew; I have no sympathy for messianic Jews religiously. But it really is silly to suggest that their belief is anything less than a standard trinitarian effort to worship one God in three persons. Just quoting one odd description, without any qualification, is odd and misleading.
If we were talking about Mormons, for example, the issue would be very different. P.D. 22:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I am not trying to censor the source. Adding a qualification that a characterization is "in the words of" an author is not censorship. P.D. 22:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
I saw the article AfD pop up in recent changes. I always believed there was an article about a very notable guitarist by that name but when I looked at the page it had been hacked. Tracing back through the article edit history I found where the original article content was lost(early December) and restored it to the version prior to the vandalism. Just thought I'd let you know as you, very justly, tagged the "as is" version for AfD. Have a nice day! 156.34.142.110 18:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Society of Actuaries in Ireland, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a direct copy from http://www.actuaries.ie and its subpages, and therefore a copyright violation. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted.
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