You have done a very nice job here. The Transhumanist 12:17, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! It looked like it needed attention. (It still does, of course.) And, I've noticed all the work you've put in over the years.
I have a question about your reworking of the lead. You turned it into a term–definition format, but most featured lists I've seen don't do that. For example: List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Greater London, List of freshwater islands in Scotland, List of current sovereign monarchs, and List of computer criminals. The examples from WP:LEADFORALIST fit the same pattern. It would be nice to have the list promoted to featured status at some point. Is there a practical reason you avoid a prosaic style? Augoust ( talk) 14:15, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Right. This much I do know. It was the guiding principle in my edits.Standard lists include items … while outlines include all the topics that belong to a subject … They are a type of tree structure, … They are a taxonomical data format
I don't see what about them intrinsically requires different lead styles nor such radically criteria for featured status (or any other type of formally reviewed status), but I will defer to our experience and judgement.The Featured List department wasn't designed to handle outlines. Outlines have their own style guidelines.
It's very unfortunate, but not surprising. Wikipedia is very large, covers nearly every topic possible, and is primarily a volunteer project. Even a fully manned team of tech experts with nothing else to do would have a hard time. I agree it would be great if a way to automate outline maintenance was devised.There just isn't enough manpower available to build and maintain them. There is great motivation to automate the construction and maintenance of these structures.
Thank you very much for your answer. Augoust ( talk) 14:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Please tell me about your programming skills. The Transhumanist 06:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
My go-to answer for most "where do I start with [programming topic x]?" questions is the relevant O'Reilly book. In this case, that's Bird, Klein, and Loper's Natural Language Processing with Python. You can find it at Amazon and nltk.org. Once you're beyond the level of a book like that, you'll learn more from language agnostic NLP books and the documentation of whatever libraries you find yourself using.
Yea, regex proficiency used to be a requirement. I'm also fond of it. It's very expressively efficient, as is the case with may domain specific languages.
Perhaps, I can help with those scripts. I'm pretty busy, so no promises, but I like seeing repetitive and otherwise predictable tasks automated. (They should.) Augoust ( talk) 01:38, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Dear Augoust,
Here's a problem I definitely need help on...
One thing I keep running into is a need for a method using perl to check for the red status of a link.
For example, "given a list x of links, insert those that are not red on page y". Or, "given list z of links, strip out the redlinks. To execute the desired actions, the script first must determine whether each link is red or not.
I look forward to your reply. The Transhumanist 17:56, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
You have done a very nice job here. The Transhumanist 12:17, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! It looked like it needed attention. (It still does, of course.) And, I've noticed all the work you've put in over the years.
I have a question about your reworking of the lead. You turned it into a term–definition format, but most featured lists I've seen don't do that. For example: List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Greater London, List of freshwater islands in Scotland, List of current sovereign monarchs, and List of computer criminals. The examples from WP:LEADFORALIST fit the same pattern. It would be nice to have the list promoted to featured status at some point. Is there a practical reason you avoid a prosaic style? Augoust ( talk) 14:15, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Right. This much I do know. It was the guiding principle in my edits.Standard lists include items … while outlines include all the topics that belong to a subject … They are a type of tree structure, … They are a taxonomical data format
I don't see what about them intrinsically requires different lead styles nor such radically criteria for featured status (or any other type of formally reviewed status), but I will defer to our experience and judgement.The Featured List department wasn't designed to handle outlines. Outlines have their own style guidelines.
It's very unfortunate, but not surprising. Wikipedia is very large, covers nearly every topic possible, and is primarily a volunteer project. Even a fully manned team of tech experts with nothing else to do would have a hard time. I agree it would be great if a way to automate outline maintenance was devised.There just isn't enough manpower available to build and maintain them. There is great motivation to automate the construction and maintenance of these structures.
Thank you very much for your answer. Augoust ( talk) 14:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Please tell me about your programming skills. The Transhumanist 06:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
My go-to answer for most "where do I start with [programming topic x]?" questions is the relevant O'Reilly book. In this case, that's Bird, Klein, and Loper's Natural Language Processing with Python. You can find it at Amazon and nltk.org. Once you're beyond the level of a book like that, you'll learn more from language agnostic NLP books and the documentation of whatever libraries you find yourself using.
Yea, regex proficiency used to be a requirement. I'm also fond of it. It's very expressively efficient, as is the case with may domain specific languages.
Perhaps, I can help with those scripts. I'm pretty busy, so no promises, but I like seeing repetitive and otherwise predictable tasks automated. (They should.) Augoust ( talk) 01:38, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Dear Augoust,
Here's a problem I definitely need help on...
One thing I keep running into is a need for a method using perl to check for the red status of a link.
For example, "given a list x of links, insert those that are not red on page y". Or, "given list z of links, strip out the redlinks. To execute the desired actions, the script first must determine whether each link is red or not.
I look forward to your reply. The Transhumanist 17:56, 6 November 2015 (UTC)