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Hi Arllaw. I'm hoping to start up a dialogue with you about improvements to WP:DEATHS. Normally, I'd push for such discussion to happen at the talk page, but I worry others will perceive it as bludgeoning. I'm hoping we can settle on the clearest way to articulate the change and why it's an improvement and then bring it back there for review. Does that sound like a reasonable path forward to you? Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 15:45, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
I'm also not sure I'm understanding Arllaw correctly, but I have a good guess. Arllaw, are you concerned about cases in which:
- reliable sources are clear that someone was murdered
- the sources do not frequently use the phrase "murder of X", thus no COMMONNAME
- but there is no conviction for murder?
I agree these should mostly be titled "Murder of X", excepting some cases where this has unwelcome BLP implications. An example I can think of would be Murder of the Romanov family. Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 02:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
I think that's why we should frame the issue using cases where COMMONNAME does not apply. Does that sound ok to you? Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 05:01, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Please let me know why you removed my improvements to the Limited Liability Partnership. Anand Singh7 ( talk) 04:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
So, telling me to 'scroll up to (my) last post' and figure out what you mean is an example of the refusals you've been making to explain things to people, in this case refusing also when directly requested to provide diffs to support an accusation but instead asking me to go read back and figure out what you mean for myself. I made no personal attack in that post. I told you I thought you were bludgeoning the discussion, that bludgeoning was disruptive, and that you should stop.
The exchange that led to these is another, and also an example of your bludgeoning causing other editors to leave conversations. In fact although you have only been posting to that talk for less than six weeks, you are now the leading author of the talk page, with a full fifth of the page both by number of posts and volume of text being from you. The next four most frequent posters to that page have been contributing there for over three years. This is practically the definition of bludgeoning.
If that's literally all you've got to support your accusation that I've made a personal attack, you should consider this a warning that you should not make unsupported accusations. Valereee ( talk) 13:38, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Scott Mitic, to which you have significantly contributed, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or if it should be deleted.
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Hi Arllaw. I'm hoping to start up a dialogue with you about improvements to WP:DEATHS. Normally, I'd push for such discussion to happen at the talk page, but I worry others will perceive it as bludgeoning. I'm hoping we can settle on the clearest way to articulate the change and why it's an improvement and then bring it back there for review. Does that sound like a reasonable path forward to you? Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 15:45, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
I'm also not sure I'm understanding Arllaw correctly, but I have a good guess. Arllaw, are you concerned about cases in which:
- reliable sources are clear that someone was murdered
- the sources do not frequently use the phrase "murder of X", thus no COMMONNAME
- but there is no conviction for murder?
I agree these should mostly be titled "Murder of X", excepting some cases where this has unwelcome BLP implications. An example I can think of would be Murder of the Romanov family. Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 02:53, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
I think that's why we should frame the issue using cases where COMMONNAME does not apply. Does that sound ok to you? Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 05:01, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Please let me know why you removed my improvements to the Limited Liability Partnership. Anand Singh7 ( talk) 04:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
So, telling me to 'scroll up to (my) last post' and figure out what you mean is an example of the refusals you've been making to explain things to people, in this case refusing also when directly requested to provide diffs to support an accusation but instead asking me to go read back and figure out what you mean for myself. I made no personal attack in that post. I told you I thought you were bludgeoning the discussion, that bludgeoning was disruptive, and that you should stop.
The exchange that led to these is another, and also an example of your bludgeoning causing other editors to leave conversations. In fact although you have only been posting to that talk for less than six weeks, you are now the leading author of the talk page, with a full fifth of the page both by number of posts and volume of text being from you. The next four most frequent posters to that page have been contributing there for over three years. This is practically the definition of bludgeoning.
If that's literally all you've got to support your accusation that I've made a personal attack, you should consider this a warning that you should not make unsupported accusations. Valereee ( talk) 13:38, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
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