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...for your copyediting on Dark Sceptre; my grammar was rather erratic. All of your contributions over the last few days have improved Wikipedia. Marasmusine 21:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks with your help at Tornabuoni Chapel and Sassetti Chapel. I wrote them by translating the Italian equivalents. the problem is that, as you noticed, my English is not properly an... English-English, but maybe more an Italian-English. Can I ask your help in future too? Do you have any other Italian Chapel, or church etc. would you like to have here? Ciao and good work. -- Attilios 09:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if I messed up some of your edits on Roman brick. Thanks for the edit summary compliment. I have really had to piece this one together, there really doesn't seem to be a definitive comprehensive source. I have come across some great stuff on Ancient Roman brick stamps which seems to have become the subject of significant scholarly work, so that will make for an interesting addition when I can parse it all and figure out what to add. If your changes haven't been able to take, I can take a pause from working on the article. Thanks for the work btw. IvoShandor 11:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been doing some checking, and the current wording in the hunger strike article predates my editing ( [1]), although I did source it. The blanket and dirty protest articles were ones I expanded as I figured if they were going to be linked from the main page they needed to look better than this and this. What with being busy with an ongoing ArbCom case I didn't have time to make sure all the wording matched, even if the basic meaning behind the wording is the same. I'll have a look in the next couple of hours anyway. Thanks for pointing out the discrepency and your kind words anyway. One Night In Hackney 303 13:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
For your copyediting, Andplus (or is that "&+"?). -- !! ?? 15:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for editing the above. Apparently I ought to read the article after I add or rearrange content—that was rather embarrassing. What does your possibly sarcastic edit comment bed and sofa actually the same chaise longue? Lovely mean? That the chaise lounge should be referred to by one name for consistency? – Outriggr § 23:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I have made replies to all of your concerns. -- Anonymous Dissident Talk 00:19, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Where is the other article about the Egyptian alchemist? There is only something on a band, and a god. Agathodaimon redirects to the page on the god, currently. -- Anonymous Dissident Talk 00:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
L.Y.O.N.E.L. T.H.E. S.E.C.O.N.D. Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache does indeed deserve an article - he emigrated to New Zealand, where he fathered 17 children; hence the redlink. Most of the other family members are not so remarkable - the eldest, Lyonel Felix Carteret Eugene Tollemache, inherited a baronetcy and Ham House, which he gave to the National Trust in 1948; the other brother who died in the Great War, Leo Quintus Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache, may also justify an article - he changed his name by deed poll! -- !! ?? 16:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I made a post about tiny Coke bottles at Talk:Ambler's Texaco Gas Station, any input there would be appreciated. Also, I wondered if you thought I should split up the five article DYK hook or just drop a few of the articles from the suggestions page altogether on that topic. IvoShandor 02:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. Thanks for you heroic copy editing on the Waldgirmes Forum article. I can't believe how sloppily I must have typed that one up. Perhaps I was drunk? In any case, thanks! athinaios 10:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for whatever. Apart from whatever, do you happen to know anything about the lectures given in honor of Hurwicz, one named for him? And about the criterion (1951 or so) used in decision making? More about his students? I'd like to see them added. About main page space, yes it is important (as I recall I replied on that subject a couple of times) but not so important as to ignore what are gaps in the article. Thanks for your note. - Susanlesch 16:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Dear sir, I'm wondering if this Buddhist monk ever interested you? I was looking for a copyeditor. Thanks, Blnguyen ( two years of monkeying) 09:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
"Psychological warfare" just meant broadcasting propaganda to the enemy. He spoke German and was in charge of broadcasts in German at the BBC, so I guess it made some sense. See Political Warfare Executive and Psychological Warfare Division. -- !! ?? 14:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
You seem to be doing a solid job cleaning up articles I have just "launched". First thing is "thanks". Another is ... I have a couple more "en route". If you fancy helping then I'll put them under joint authorship when they goto Did you know? If you are too busy elsewhere then thanks again anyway Victuallers 13:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Andplus;
I appreciate your revision of Acrocanthosaurus, and would like it if you would add comments to the FAC page, as the WP:DINO editors usually work quickly on outside concerns. J. Spencer 15:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
..thanks for your edits to Battle of Red Cliffs. The first thing that jumped out at me is your change of the term "commandery" to "command". The former is the term used in translations considered authoritative.. many of your other edits helped the flow of the article.. I will look at them in detail and try to edit the article whenever necessaary.. tahknks again! -- Ling.Nut 14:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, &+, thanks for taking an interest in Billy the pygmy hippo. I tried to address your comments. A brand new editor, an IP address, has taken interest in the article too and so I'm still trying to sort out some of his information. I notice you have the copy editor's curse -- the moment people recognize you're a good copy editor you are overwhelmed with requests. Let me add to your affliction ;) Javan Rhinoceros is currently a featured article candidate. If you enjoy animal articles, I'd deeply appreciate an extra set of eyes to help me improve the article. It's a long term project and I intend to continue improving the articles even after FAC, so no rush. And if you don't like rhinos don't even worry about it. Cheers! -- JayHenry 17:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
(←)Saw the comment below about capitalization. What do you think on these animals? Should it be Javan rhinoceros or Javan Rhinoceros. I go back and forth on which makes more sense/introduces less ambiguity. -- JayHenry 08:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
For reference you can look at a book from any established wine writer if you like. Sherry in the EU protected context of the wine from the Jerez region is a proper noun-much like Champagne (wine) from Champagne (wine region) is also a proper noun while the semi-generic usage of "sherry" and "champagne" are for similar style wines made in other areas and those are always lowercase to distinguish them. Hope that clears things up for you. Agne Cheese/ Wine 01:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
“ | champagne, n.
1. a. The name of a province of eastern France; hence, a well-known wine of different varieties, white and red, and still or sparkling, made in this district. |
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“ | sherry, n.1
1. a. Originally, the still white wine made near Xeres (now Jerez de la Frontera, a town in Andalusia, near Cadiz); in modern use, extended to a class of Spanish fortified white wines of similar character, and (usually with prefixed word, as Californian, Cape sherry) to wines made elsewhere in imitation of Spanish sherry. Also, a wine of this kind. |
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Instead of linking to a disambig page in The Four Stages of Cruelty, what do you think about linking to wiktionary for " bladder"? I'm pretty sure someone is going to come along and take that disambig link out sooner or later. Awadewit | talk 23:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello again, Andplus. I was just saying on my talk, "...there's a glut of WP:FAC nominees and a dearth of (competent) reviewers". I'd like to invite you to consider getting involved in the various aspects of the Content Review Process on Wikipedia: WP:FAC, WP:PR & WP:GA. The latter is relatively better supplied with reviewers; the first two may be more in need of your help. I suggest reading WP:WIAFA and the essays at its bottom.. and ask for help from "old hands" such as Awadewit (whom I see you've met), Marskell, SandyGeorgia etc. Cheers and Happy Editing! -- Ling.Nut 03:23, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, there are a couple of reasons. First of all, no one is ever going to read a hidden comment (unless they happen to read articles in edit mode), so the changes you suggested will likely never happen. Second, I've found hidden comments all over that article, and they aren't really necessary... in any case they just detract from the quality (I'm not saying they shouldn't be used at all, but sparingly, and not by one individual, but by consensus on the talk page: such as the one at the top of the New York City article). A third reason is that you're adding unnecessary bytes to the page, but that's just being pedantic. ;) If you have any concerns like the ones you've added, I'd suggest leaving a note on the talk page rather than a hidden comment (see reason #1); sorry for not suggesting that before, I realize that that would have been much more helpful. · AndonicO Talk 15:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the edits to the painting. Would you be interested in editing one of my furthest-along articles, Ulysses (poem), which in principle is to be nominated for FAC sometime? It's already been reviewed and ce'd by Awadewit. Who is it, though, that can be certain to aver about the extent to which ungainly phraseology may still, despite my best efforts, be extant? – Outriggr § 00:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Andplus. I lost my first draft of comments here because my guitar touched my keyboard, both of which reside on my lap (my legs resting on the desk, if that helps clarify) and did something mysterious, so I have to be shorter this time. Instead of replying to your inline comments here, I'll respond and/or remove them in the article itself.
Regarding Fred looking off the page: oh dear. This image is already a replacement for one in which he was obviously looking off the page (see article talk page), and I don't find it obvious here that he is looking to the right, certainly not enough to be aesthetically unappealing. The current pose, a contrapposto of sorts?
Thanks again for your comments. – Outriggr § 00:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Are you interested in thinking about any more cirkcet articles sir? I need a copyedit. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 04:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't know who you are, but I love you! You can come and edit the articles that I write any time you like! Can I give you a list? Next time I put something up as a featured article I want you in on it!
Fictive architecture.... Hmmmm! That's how one of the books that I quoted refers to it, but it might appear under Illusionistic architecture or trompe l'Oi! (dunnohowtospellit!).
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Yeah, he andplusalso his brother (who?) are both great. Trompe l'oeil. -- !! ?? 12:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey Andplus, I'm watching you do some good copyediting on Arthur Morris. I just wanted to let you know that I (in my opinion) carefully reviewed it for FA this afternoon and left a lot of comments on the FAC page. I'm thinking that a lot of my comments may be superseded by your work and was wondering if you could possibly knock them off the list as and when you deal with them? I know it's a bit of an extra task but it'll make life easier when I try to work out what has and hasn't been dealt with! All the best, and keep up the great work. -- The Rambling Man ( talk) 16:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll copy the rest over here as I get to them, but probably won't be able to do anything much until Monday now.-- Andplus ( talk) 17:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for a great job. It is interesting to see the response of someone who doesn't know the architectural jargon. I have sorted out a few of the little problems like Decorated/decorated. Yes, it's a style so I have changed it to Decorated Gothic and the same with Perpendicular Gothic. Explained what the string-course is. It's a band of decorative moulding. "Ornament" is the correct architectural term and can be discrete, rather than "ornametation" which is descriptive and definitely OTT!
About the models and flaps. There is only one model, the St. Andrew's one, and it's not the moodel that had flaps. I've used the word "design" in place of architectural drawings so I've fixed that in at least one instance. The words are often interchangeable, in the sense of "the concept".
One of the things that one has to wonder at, and the reason for the narrative, is the time frame of everything. When Blacket sent drawings to Cambridge and Oxford, it was at least 6 months before he got their response. I seem to remember that the model has two windows in the North Transept, which means it was probably made during that 6 month period. I'm fairly certain that the new design for the facade post-dates the Oxbridge communication. The finished facade is a much more inspiring composition than that on the model.
On idiomatic thing- all those "first settlers" were "transported", many of them in chains, hence my use of the word.
I was a little surprised at your question as to how the drought affected funding!!! OMG! We are no longer a 90% rural community, but even so, the last seven years drought has meant that there have been no bananas, a staple food for all Aussie kids. Our family hasn't had a piece of steak since the year 2001, no-one has washed their car, or their house windows with a hose for at least 6 years. The apples are OK this year, but for a few years they have all been small and specked, the sort that you would not normally send to market, but that has been all that there was available at an affordable price. ....Would you believe that I had a cucumber on time-payment? ;)
The Church of England is dependent on the weekly offerings by the faithful to pay the clergies' stipend. In a rural community, the church was as poor as the people. But in the case of Sydney, the Cathedral also owned land and rental property. However, in all probability everyone was behind with their rent because food would have cost a fortune. Then when the goldrushes occurred in 1851, all the workers downed their tools. Even the ships were left in port by deserting sailors. My great grandfather arrived just as it all started, and used the funds he brought from Ireland to open a biscuit factory to make cracker biscuits for the miners. Thanks again for your help! Amandajm ( talk) 03:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
The picture that you painted was quite correct. Can you imagine? Shipped out to a country where nothing grew that they recognised? Mid summer and a stretch of several days over the century. The convict women, who were vastly outnumbered by the men, were all taken ashore four days after the men and were raped all night.
The first solid building was the Government store which was guarded night and day while the convicts and marines, with wives and children starved, and the governor went on the same ration as everyone else. The children got less flour, but more meat. The meat must have been foul! It was corned beef in barrels. (They brought cattle out with them, and most of the herd escaped. When they were discovered 23 years later they were several hundred of them.) The people from the First Fleet had great hopes of getting fresh supplies from England, but when the next ships arrived about two years later, they had some foul disease, typhoid, I think, and a lot of them had died, and those who hadn't were too weak to stand.
The first decent public building to go up was in 1811, the hospital, and it is an elegant Georgian design, colonial military style but its finer points are really very fine indeed. The columns of the verandah have what is know as "entasis", they are tapered and swell slightly below the middle. Getting the proportion right requires real expertise, as does the drafting of the profile of the capitals on top of the columns. They are perfect. I don't know whether our arrogant Mr. Greenway (who was a cocky, spiteful little man transported for forgery) had anything to do with it. I have read that on his arrival he walked up the street, saw the hospital under construction and shrieked that it would fall down and kill the patients. So I suppose that he designed the columns, whether the military engineer wanted him to, or not! I worked in said building for a while, and I'm really very attached to it. In Australia buildings of that age are so rare that its the equivalent of the Colosseum or the Aquaduct of Nimes. Amandajm ( talk) 11:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Andplus, I saw your 2p at the Ulysses FAC, but its unclear whether you were supporting or just commenting. Thanks. Ceoil ( talk) 08:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I wondered why you removed the template that I added. Your edit summary made no reference to it. -- Dweller ( talk) 13:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! - I was rather spoilt for choice, but that stood out! Johnbod ( talk) 12:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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Based on my counting, you hit the 150 edit mark somewhere around October 4th. (I counted only article edits, it may have been sooner if the people doing the scrutineering also count article talk pages.) Thus, you should be eligible to vote. Risker ( talk) 15:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
[2] -- a nifty summary of copy editing mistakes that good writers (who assume they are therefore good copy editors) routinely make. Especially that fifth point. I don't think it's a worthless effort to maintain a list like that somewhere. -- JayHenry ( talk) 23:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. This is just to let you know I have reposted your excellent post onto the WikiEN-l mailing list (with attribution of course). See [3]. KTC 16:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Andplus, why do I have the funny feeling you're not returning? You went through the whole wikipedia editor cycle in a couple of months, I guess. Hope I'm wrong. – Outriggr § 01:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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...for your copyediting on Dark Sceptre; my grammar was rather erratic. All of your contributions over the last few days have improved Wikipedia. Marasmusine 21:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks with your help at Tornabuoni Chapel and Sassetti Chapel. I wrote them by translating the Italian equivalents. the problem is that, as you noticed, my English is not properly an... English-English, but maybe more an Italian-English. Can I ask your help in future too? Do you have any other Italian Chapel, or church etc. would you like to have here? Ciao and good work. -- Attilios 09:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if I messed up some of your edits on Roman brick. Thanks for the edit summary compliment. I have really had to piece this one together, there really doesn't seem to be a definitive comprehensive source. I have come across some great stuff on Ancient Roman brick stamps which seems to have become the subject of significant scholarly work, so that will make for an interesting addition when I can parse it all and figure out what to add. If your changes haven't been able to take, I can take a pause from working on the article. Thanks for the work btw. IvoShandor 11:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
I've been doing some checking, and the current wording in the hunger strike article predates my editing ( [1]), although I did source it. The blanket and dirty protest articles were ones I expanded as I figured if they were going to be linked from the main page they needed to look better than this and this. What with being busy with an ongoing ArbCom case I didn't have time to make sure all the wording matched, even if the basic meaning behind the wording is the same. I'll have a look in the next couple of hours anyway. Thanks for pointing out the discrepency and your kind words anyway. One Night In Hackney 303 13:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
For your copyediting, Andplus (or is that "&+"?). -- !! ?? 15:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for editing the above. Apparently I ought to read the article after I add or rearrange content—that was rather embarrassing. What does your possibly sarcastic edit comment bed and sofa actually the same chaise longue? Lovely mean? That the chaise lounge should be referred to by one name for consistency? – Outriggr § 23:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I have made replies to all of your concerns. -- Anonymous Dissident Talk 00:19, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Where is the other article about the Egyptian alchemist? There is only something on a band, and a god. Agathodaimon redirects to the page on the god, currently. -- Anonymous Dissident Talk 00:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
L.Y.O.N.E.L. T.H.E. S.E.C.O.N.D. Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache does indeed deserve an article - he emigrated to New Zealand, where he fathered 17 children; hence the redlink. Most of the other family members are not so remarkable - the eldest, Lyonel Felix Carteret Eugene Tollemache, inherited a baronetcy and Ham House, which he gave to the National Trust in 1948; the other brother who died in the Great War, Leo Quintus Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache, may also justify an article - he changed his name by deed poll! -- !! ?? 16:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello. I made a post about tiny Coke bottles at Talk:Ambler's Texaco Gas Station, any input there would be appreciated. Also, I wondered if you thought I should split up the five article DYK hook or just drop a few of the articles from the suggestions page altogether on that topic. IvoShandor 02:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. Thanks for you heroic copy editing on the Waldgirmes Forum article. I can't believe how sloppily I must have typed that one up. Perhaps I was drunk? In any case, thanks! athinaios 10:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for whatever. Apart from whatever, do you happen to know anything about the lectures given in honor of Hurwicz, one named for him? And about the criterion (1951 or so) used in decision making? More about his students? I'd like to see them added. About main page space, yes it is important (as I recall I replied on that subject a couple of times) but not so important as to ignore what are gaps in the article. Thanks for your note. - Susanlesch 16:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Dear sir, I'm wondering if this Buddhist monk ever interested you? I was looking for a copyeditor. Thanks, Blnguyen ( two years of monkeying) 09:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
"Psychological warfare" just meant broadcasting propaganda to the enemy. He spoke German and was in charge of broadcasts in German at the BBC, so I guess it made some sense. See Political Warfare Executive and Psychological Warfare Division. -- !! ?? 14:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
You seem to be doing a solid job cleaning up articles I have just "launched". First thing is "thanks". Another is ... I have a couple more "en route". If you fancy helping then I'll put them under joint authorship when they goto Did you know? If you are too busy elsewhere then thanks again anyway Victuallers 13:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Andplus;
I appreciate your revision of Acrocanthosaurus, and would like it if you would add comments to the FAC page, as the WP:DINO editors usually work quickly on outside concerns. J. Spencer 15:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
..thanks for your edits to Battle of Red Cliffs. The first thing that jumped out at me is your change of the term "commandery" to "command". The former is the term used in translations considered authoritative.. many of your other edits helped the flow of the article.. I will look at them in detail and try to edit the article whenever necessaary.. tahknks again! -- Ling.Nut 14:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, &+, thanks for taking an interest in Billy the pygmy hippo. I tried to address your comments. A brand new editor, an IP address, has taken interest in the article too and so I'm still trying to sort out some of his information. I notice you have the copy editor's curse -- the moment people recognize you're a good copy editor you are overwhelmed with requests. Let me add to your affliction ;) Javan Rhinoceros is currently a featured article candidate. If you enjoy animal articles, I'd deeply appreciate an extra set of eyes to help me improve the article. It's a long term project and I intend to continue improving the articles even after FAC, so no rush. And if you don't like rhinos don't even worry about it. Cheers! -- JayHenry 17:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
(←)Saw the comment below about capitalization. What do you think on these animals? Should it be Javan rhinoceros or Javan Rhinoceros. I go back and forth on which makes more sense/introduces less ambiguity. -- JayHenry 08:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
For reference you can look at a book from any established wine writer if you like. Sherry in the EU protected context of the wine from the Jerez region is a proper noun-much like Champagne (wine) from Champagne (wine region) is also a proper noun while the semi-generic usage of "sherry" and "champagne" are for similar style wines made in other areas and those are always lowercase to distinguish them. Hope that clears things up for you. Agne Cheese/ Wine 01:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
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1. a. Originally, the still white wine made near Xeres (now Jerez de la Frontera, a town in Andalusia, near Cadiz); in modern use, extended to a class of Spanish fortified white wines of similar character, and (usually with prefixed word, as Californian, Cape sherry) to wines made elsewhere in imitation of Spanish sherry. Also, a wine of this kind. |
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Instead of linking to a disambig page in The Four Stages of Cruelty, what do you think about linking to wiktionary for " bladder"? I'm pretty sure someone is going to come along and take that disambig link out sooner or later. Awadewit | talk 23:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello again, Andplus. I was just saying on my talk, "...there's a glut of WP:FAC nominees and a dearth of (competent) reviewers". I'd like to invite you to consider getting involved in the various aspects of the Content Review Process on Wikipedia: WP:FAC, WP:PR & WP:GA. The latter is relatively better supplied with reviewers; the first two may be more in need of your help. I suggest reading WP:WIAFA and the essays at its bottom.. and ask for help from "old hands" such as Awadewit (whom I see you've met), Marskell, SandyGeorgia etc. Cheers and Happy Editing! -- Ling.Nut 03:23, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, there are a couple of reasons. First of all, no one is ever going to read a hidden comment (unless they happen to read articles in edit mode), so the changes you suggested will likely never happen. Second, I've found hidden comments all over that article, and they aren't really necessary... in any case they just detract from the quality (I'm not saying they shouldn't be used at all, but sparingly, and not by one individual, but by consensus on the talk page: such as the one at the top of the New York City article). A third reason is that you're adding unnecessary bytes to the page, but that's just being pedantic. ;) If you have any concerns like the ones you've added, I'd suggest leaving a note on the talk page rather than a hidden comment (see reason #1); sorry for not suggesting that before, I realize that that would have been much more helpful. · AndonicO Talk 15:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the edits to the painting. Would you be interested in editing one of my furthest-along articles, Ulysses (poem), which in principle is to be nominated for FAC sometime? It's already been reviewed and ce'd by Awadewit. Who is it, though, that can be certain to aver about the extent to which ungainly phraseology may still, despite my best efforts, be extant? – Outriggr § 00:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Andplus. I lost my first draft of comments here because my guitar touched my keyboard, both of which reside on my lap (my legs resting on the desk, if that helps clarify) and did something mysterious, so I have to be shorter this time. Instead of replying to your inline comments here, I'll respond and/or remove them in the article itself.
Regarding Fred looking off the page: oh dear. This image is already a replacement for one in which he was obviously looking off the page (see article talk page), and I don't find it obvious here that he is looking to the right, certainly not enough to be aesthetically unappealing. The current pose, a contrapposto of sorts?
Thanks again for your comments. – Outriggr § 00:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Are you interested in thinking about any more cirkcet articles sir? I need a copyedit. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 04:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't know who you are, but I love you! You can come and edit the articles that I write any time you like! Can I give you a list? Next time I put something up as a featured article I want you in on it!
Fictive architecture.... Hmmmm! That's how one of the books that I quoted refers to it, but it might appear under Illusionistic architecture or trompe l'Oi! (dunnohowtospellit!).
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...and hear is you're every frist coppy etidors' barn stare Amandajm 07:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC) |
Yeah, he andplusalso his brother (who?) are both great. Trompe l'oeil. -- !! ?? 12:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey Andplus, I'm watching you do some good copyediting on Arthur Morris. I just wanted to let you know that I (in my opinion) carefully reviewed it for FA this afternoon and left a lot of comments on the FAC page. I'm thinking that a lot of my comments may be superseded by your work and was wondering if you could possibly knock them off the list as and when you deal with them? I know it's a bit of an extra task but it'll make life easier when I try to work out what has and hasn't been dealt with! All the best, and keep up the great work. -- The Rambling Man ( talk) 16:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll copy the rest over here as I get to them, but probably won't be able to do anything much until Monday now.-- Andplus ( talk) 17:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for a great job. It is interesting to see the response of someone who doesn't know the architectural jargon. I have sorted out a few of the little problems like Decorated/decorated. Yes, it's a style so I have changed it to Decorated Gothic and the same with Perpendicular Gothic. Explained what the string-course is. It's a band of decorative moulding. "Ornament" is the correct architectural term and can be discrete, rather than "ornametation" which is descriptive and definitely OTT!
About the models and flaps. There is only one model, the St. Andrew's one, and it's not the moodel that had flaps. I've used the word "design" in place of architectural drawings so I've fixed that in at least one instance. The words are often interchangeable, in the sense of "the concept".
One of the things that one has to wonder at, and the reason for the narrative, is the time frame of everything. When Blacket sent drawings to Cambridge and Oxford, it was at least 6 months before he got their response. I seem to remember that the model has two windows in the North Transept, which means it was probably made during that 6 month period. I'm fairly certain that the new design for the facade post-dates the Oxbridge communication. The finished facade is a much more inspiring composition than that on the model.
On idiomatic thing- all those "first settlers" were "transported", many of them in chains, hence my use of the word.
I was a little surprised at your question as to how the drought affected funding!!! OMG! We are no longer a 90% rural community, but even so, the last seven years drought has meant that there have been no bananas, a staple food for all Aussie kids. Our family hasn't had a piece of steak since the year 2001, no-one has washed their car, or their house windows with a hose for at least 6 years. The apples are OK this year, but for a few years they have all been small and specked, the sort that you would not normally send to market, but that has been all that there was available at an affordable price. ....Would you believe that I had a cucumber on time-payment? ;)
The Church of England is dependent on the weekly offerings by the faithful to pay the clergies' stipend. In a rural community, the church was as poor as the people. But in the case of Sydney, the Cathedral also owned land and rental property. However, in all probability everyone was behind with their rent because food would have cost a fortune. Then when the goldrushes occurred in 1851, all the workers downed their tools. Even the ships were left in port by deserting sailors. My great grandfather arrived just as it all started, and used the funds he brought from Ireland to open a biscuit factory to make cracker biscuits for the miners. Thanks again for your help! Amandajm ( talk) 03:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
The picture that you painted was quite correct. Can you imagine? Shipped out to a country where nothing grew that they recognised? Mid summer and a stretch of several days over the century. The convict women, who were vastly outnumbered by the men, were all taken ashore four days after the men and were raped all night.
The first solid building was the Government store which was guarded night and day while the convicts and marines, with wives and children starved, and the governor went on the same ration as everyone else. The children got less flour, but more meat. The meat must have been foul! It was corned beef in barrels. (They brought cattle out with them, and most of the herd escaped. When they were discovered 23 years later they were several hundred of them.) The people from the First Fleet had great hopes of getting fresh supplies from England, but when the next ships arrived about two years later, they had some foul disease, typhoid, I think, and a lot of them had died, and those who hadn't were too weak to stand.
The first decent public building to go up was in 1811, the hospital, and it is an elegant Georgian design, colonial military style but its finer points are really very fine indeed. The columns of the verandah have what is know as "entasis", they are tapered and swell slightly below the middle. Getting the proportion right requires real expertise, as does the drafting of the profile of the capitals on top of the columns. They are perfect. I don't know whether our arrogant Mr. Greenway (who was a cocky, spiteful little man transported for forgery) had anything to do with it. I have read that on his arrival he walked up the street, saw the hospital under construction and shrieked that it would fall down and kill the patients. So I suppose that he designed the columns, whether the military engineer wanted him to, or not! I worked in said building for a while, and I'm really very attached to it. In Australia buildings of that age are so rare that its the equivalent of the Colosseum or the Aquaduct of Nimes. Amandajm ( talk) 11:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Andplus, I saw your 2p at the Ulysses FAC, but its unclear whether you were supporting or just commenting. Thanks. Ceoil ( talk) 08:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I wondered why you removed the template that I added. Your edit summary made no reference to it. -- Dweller ( talk) 13:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! - I was rather spoilt for choice, but that stood out! Johnbod ( talk) 12:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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[2] -- a nifty summary of copy editing mistakes that good writers (who assume they are therefore good copy editors) routinely make. Especially that fifth point. I don't think it's a worthless effort to maintain a list like that somewhere. -- JayHenry ( talk) 23:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. This is just to let you know I have reposted your excellent post onto the WikiEN-l mailing list (with attribution of course). See [3]. KTC 16:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Andplus, why do I have the funny feeling you're not returning? You went through the whole wikipedia editor cycle in a couple of months, I guess. Hope I'm wrong. – Outriggr § 01:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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