Welcome to Wikipedia. Okay, I'm a few years late. -- Grouse 13:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'm actually obsessed with maintaining citations. You're additions are good (they do not conflict with the source, but they weren't taken from the source). Hyacinth 09:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that sounds good. I've been through my Buddhist books, and i think i've found where i got my idea from. I baught a book years ago now, 365 smiles from Buddha by Robert Allen. On page 343, he says: 'A Catholic friend was quite shocked to find that Buddhists have no special ceremony in which they join the religion, nor do they have to swaer to uphold particular doctrines.' However, since our discussion i have been doing research, and the stuff i've read contradicts this. Can you tell me if this guy's just plain wrong, and getting some quick money from writing these books, or if i've misunderstood what he ment by this. I'm afraid that i might have been wrong after all. The Halo 17: 53 20 February 2006 (UTC)
(replying to User Talk:The Halo#Regarding refuge) Thanks for the reply. After doing extensive research, i think that you are right about refuge. Though I still have doubts about taking refuge, as regards to how much an indervidual should work stuff out for themselves, it is now clear to me that the consensus is what you have written. Sorry for the trouble that this confusion of mine has caused, and i hope that you can see that i tried to act in good faith. Once again, sorry for my stupidity (I'm going to check and double check stuff before i discuss now), and thanks for your time. The Halo 12:16 21 February 2006 (UTC)
(My part of the conversation is at User Talk:Ig0774#Nikaya schools. --- Andkaha( talk) 16:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC))
There's no particular contradiction here... the Sautrantika and Vaibhashika (better known for the Sarsvastivadin school) schools have simply vanished from existence. In fact, traditionally, there were "18" Nikayas schools (though textual evidence for at least 20 exists). Nevertheless, the a number of their texts (or at least texts purporting to refute their doctrines) have survived, and thus are interesting in Buddhists studies because they show non-Theravadin interpretations of early Buddhist teachings. I am not quite sure what the author of that passage had in mind; both the Sautrantika and Vaibhashika schools are regarded as part of the Sarvastivadin tradition... I would have included a reference to the Theravada. But, on the other hand, the Madhyamika and Yogachara have also ceased to exist as independent schools, though, of course, all four of these traditions have an influence, mostly on varities of Mahayana and Vajrayana. Hope that clears up some of the confusion I caused... Ig0774 16:33, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Changing the tense is probably a good solution, but it would have to be done for all four schools (Buddhism all but vanished in India around the 12th century CE). Ig0774 16:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
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Andhaka Lumbini was in eastern India. What is POV about it? Tatra 08:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Why did You remove the priority tag (!) from Zen.Regards! V1 t 14:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hallo dear Andkaha. I hope you are well and that all is going well for you. As I suggested a couple of weeks ago, I have inserted a little comment on the "metta" and "brahma-vihara" pages to the effect that self-directed metta, etc., is not specifically recommended by the Buddha in the suttas. Shall we see what happens now? It may be that some other editors will share you uneasiness about mentioning this and will write in to complain. If they do, I shall be happy to remove the sentence. All best wishes to you. Yours cordially, Tony. TonyMPNS 19:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
"Nihilists (natthiko) [those who deny the Soul] go to terrible hell"[SN 1.96]-Gotama Buddha —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Attasarana ( talk • contribs) .
Im so very sorry you suffer the delusion that conjecture for a sectarian theravadin trumps doctrine itself. Rather a blantent fallacy. This is on par with heretical Catholics, some of which think the views of the Pope trump the very bible. Sola Scriptura, all religious debates are centered IN dotrine, never commentary.
Buddhism differs from the “nothing-morist” (Skt. Nastika, Pali natthika) in affirming a spiritual nature that is not in any wise, but immeasurable, inconnumerable, infinite, and inaccessible to observation; and of which, therefore, empirical science can neither affirm nor deny the reality thereof of him who has ‘Gone to That[Brahman]” (tathatta). It is to the Spirit (Skt. Atman, Pali attan) as distinguished from oneself (namo-rupa)-i.e., whatever is phenomenal and formal (Skt. and Pali nama-rupa, and savinnana-kaya) “name and appearance”, and the “body with its consciousness”.
Since you are ignorant of buddhism and Vedanta, might i remind you the Upanishads and Samkara use the term ANATMAN as well. Attasarana
Hey Andkaha - you made your very pertinent and interesting modification of my new text within 9 minutes of my first post. Very impressive ;-) . Well done. LarryR( Talk) 17:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for helping keep an eye on things at anatta. I'm going on an extended wikibreak, so, if you get a chance, do me a favour and check Attasarana's contributions if and when he shows up again. Sometimes he messes with other articles, too. Thanks in advance. Peace out, Nat Krause( Talk!· What have I done?) 06:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I've rewritten the article now. 80.2.20.68 has tweaked my edit a little and says that it is now neutral. Would you mind coming over to read it through and let us know on the talk page if we're ready to take down the banners? Rupa zero 08:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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Welcome to Wikipedia. Okay, I'm a few years late. -- Grouse 13:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'm actually obsessed with maintaining citations. You're additions are good (they do not conflict with the source, but they weren't taken from the source). Hyacinth 09:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that sounds good. I've been through my Buddhist books, and i think i've found where i got my idea from. I baught a book years ago now, 365 smiles from Buddha by Robert Allen. On page 343, he says: 'A Catholic friend was quite shocked to find that Buddhists have no special ceremony in which they join the religion, nor do they have to swaer to uphold particular doctrines.' However, since our discussion i have been doing research, and the stuff i've read contradicts this. Can you tell me if this guy's just plain wrong, and getting some quick money from writing these books, or if i've misunderstood what he ment by this. I'm afraid that i might have been wrong after all. The Halo 17: 53 20 February 2006 (UTC)
(replying to User Talk:The Halo#Regarding refuge) Thanks for the reply. After doing extensive research, i think that you are right about refuge. Though I still have doubts about taking refuge, as regards to how much an indervidual should work stuff out for themselves, it is now clear to me that the consensus is what you have written. Sorry for the trouble that this confusion of mine has caused, and i hope that you can see that i tried to act in good faith. Once again, sorry for my stupidity (I'm going to check and double check stuff before i discuss now), and thanks for your time. The Halo 12:16 21 February 2006 (UTC)
(My part of the conversation is at User Talk:Ig0774#Nikaya schools. --- Andkaha( talk) 16:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC))
There's no particular contradiction here... the Sautrantika and Vaibhashika (better known for the Sarsvastivadin school) schools have simply vanished from existence. In fact, traditionally, there were "18" Nikayas schools (though textual evidence for at least 20 exists). Nevertheless, the a number of their texts (or at least texts purporting to refute their doctrines) have survived, and thus are interesting in Buddhists studies because they show non-Theravadin interpretations of early Buddhist teachings. I am not quite sure what the author of that passage had in mind; both the Sautrantika and Vaibhashika schools are regarded as part of the Sarvastivadin tradition... I would have included a reference to the Theravada. But, on the other hand, the Madhyamika and Yogachara have also ceased to exist as independent schools, though, of course, all four of these traditions have an influence, mostly on varities of Mahayana and Vajrayana. Hope that clears up some of the confusion I caused... Ig0774 16:33, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Changing the tense is probably a good solution, but it would have to be done for all four schools (Buddhism all but vanished in India around the 12th century CE). Ig0774 16:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
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Andhaka Lumbini was in eastern India. What is POV about it? Tatra 08:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Why did You remove the priority tag (!) from Zen.Regards! V1 t 14:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hallo dear Andkaha. I hope you are well and that all is going well for you. As I suggested a couple of weeks ago, I have inserted a little comment on the "metta" and "brahma-vihara" pages to the effect that self-directed metta, etc., is not specifically recommended by the Buddha in the suttas. Shall we see what happens now? It may be that some other editors will share you uneasiness about mentioning this and will write in to complain. If they do, I shall be happy to remove the sentence. All best wishes to you. Yours cordially, Tony. TonyMPNS 19:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
"Nihilists (natthiko) [those who deny the Soul] go to terrible hell"[SN 1.96]-Gotama Buddha —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Attasarana ( talk • contribs) .
Im so very sorry you suffer the delusion that conjecture for a sectarian theravadin trumps doctrine itself. Rather a blantent fallacy. This is on par with heretical Catholics, some of which think the views of the Pope trump the very bible. Sola Scriptura, all religious debates are centered IN dotrine, never commentary.
Buddhism differs from the “nothing-morist” (Skt. Nastika, Pali natthika) in affirming a spiritual nature that is not in any wise, but immeasurable, inconnumerable, infinite, and inaccessible to observation; and of which, therefore, empirical science can neither affirm nor deny the reality thereof of him who has ‘Gone to That[Brahman]” (tathatta). It is to the Spirit (Skt. Atman, Pali attan) as distinguished from oneself (namo-rupa)-i.e., whatever is phenomenal and formal (Skt. and Pali nama-rupa, and savinnana-kaya) “name and appearance”, and the “body with its consciousness”.
Since you are ignorant of buddhism and Vedanta, might i remind you the Upanishads and Samkara use the term ANATMAN as well. Attasarana
Hey Andkaha - you made your very pertinent and interesting modification of my new text within 9 minutes of my first post. Very impressive ;-) . Well done. LarryR( Talk) 17:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for helping keep an eye on things at anatta. I'm going on an extended wikibreak, so, if you get a chance, do me a favour and check Attasarana's contributions if and when he shows up again. Sometimes he messes with other articles, too. Thanks in advance. Peace out, Nat Krause( Talk!· What have I done?) 06:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I've rewritten the article now. 80.2.20.68 has tweaked my edit a little and says that it is now neutral. Would you mind coming over to read it through and let us know on the talk page if we're ready to take down the banners? Rupa zero 08:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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